Re: [tw5] Re: Numbered list starting from a specific number
Confirmed! Great Thanks Mario Il giorno lun 30 mar 2020 alle ore 12:53 Mohammad < mohammad.rahm...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > It works! No need to change the type! > TW5 supports html tags like ol > > > > On Monday, March 30, 2020 at 3:09:13 PM UTC+4:30, Mario Public wrote: >> >> Thanks to everyone. >> Maybe I was unclear. The list must contain a specific sequence like >> >> 48. xyx >> 49. xyz >> 50. xyz >> >> I tried the html >> >> >>That which One and two belong >> >> One >> Two >> >> >> >> >> I was unsuccesful. Should I change the tiddler type to text/html? >> Insert a full html header, body etc? >> Thanks >> Mario >> >> Il giorno lunedì 30 marzo 2020 10:44:50 UTC+2, PMario ha scritto: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> The problem with CSS numbering is, that it can change if a tiddler is >>> transcluded. So if you do reference eg: 48.a from an other tiddler, IMO it >>> would be much better, to use "hyperlinks" to tiddler titles and heading >>> names. >>> >>> CSS is very flexible. So you can do stuff like this: >>> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/CSS_Lists_and_Counters/Using_CSS_counters >>> BUT it's also very "brittle". ... Most of the time, we create lists >>> dynamically based on tags or fields. So the numbering can change at any >>> time. >>> >>> -mario >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tiddlywiki/FG074BdNvTg/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/89ceef90-f7e5-4755-883a-6633733f9484%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/89ceef90-f7e5-4755-883a-6633733f9484%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/CAHmyK-DbdADgPreA5txCAi2%2BUYae9B_7bcEG1umiYkFyUrBdfA%40mail.gmail.com.
[tw5] Re: Numbered list starting from a specific number
Thanks to everyone. Maybe I was unclear. The list must contain a specific sequence like 48. xyx 49. xyz 50. xyz I tried the html That which One and two belong One Two I was unsuccesful. Should I change the tiddler type to text/html? Insert a full html header, body etc? Thanks Mario Il giorno lunedì 30 marzo 2020 10:44:50 UTC+2, PMario ha scritto: > > Hi, > > The problem with CSS numbering is, that it can change if a tiddler is > transcluded. So if you do reference eg: 48.a from an other tiddler, IMO it > would be much better, to use "hyperlinks" to tiddler titles and heading > names. > > CSS is very flexible. So you can do stuff like this: > https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/CSS_Lists_and_Counters/Using_CSS_counters > BUT it's also very "brittle". ... Most of the time, we create lists > dynamically based on tags or fields. So the numbering can change at any > time. > > -mario > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/0a579e61-31a8-4311-8627-834c3da0b9c4%40googlegroups.com.
[tw5] Numbered list starting from a specific number
I can use # a # b to obtain 1. a 2. b How can I set the list to start from a specific number? My goal is to obtain 48. a 49. b Thanks Mario -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/4313c832-acd7-42dc-b099-72100c456ca3%40googlegroups.com.
[tw5] Re: New Plugin tw-receiver saves wiki to PHP
Thank You! You were right! Testing now. Mario Il giorno martedì 10 marzo 2020 12:11:46 UTC+1, HC Haase ha scritto: > > > > lørdag den 7. marts 2020 kl. 16.51.23 UTC+1 skrev Mario Public: >> >> When importing the plugin the error: >> >> JSON error: SyntaxError: JSON.parse: unexpected character at line 7 >> column 1 of the JSON data >> >> is reported >> >> Mario >> >> if you copied the file form github, are you sure you have the json code, >> and not the html code for the link to the file? ( I did that) check the >> file in a text editor and see if it match what is on github >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/bebdd839-17d6-4e1d-a076-5df719bcc869%40googlegroups.com.
[tw5] Re: New Plugin tw-receiver saves wiki to PHP
When importing the plugin the error: JSON error: SyntaxError: JSON.parse: unexpected character at line 7 column 1 of the JSON data is reported Mario Il giorno domenica 23 dicembre 2018 12:12:05 UTC+1, dva...@gmail.com ha scritto: > > Thank you so much for this wonderful plugin. I was having a hell of a time > getting tw5 to work on nginx with either node or the old php saver. This > plugin WORKS and is finally allowing me to junk my old apache server for a > new nginx setup. > > Thanks again, > > Deepak > > On Wednesday, 5 September 2018 22:54:10 UTC+5:30, sendwheel wrote: >> >> Created a new plugin to handle saving the wiki to a PHP based server. >> This can replace legacy store.php usage. The plugin is a bit more >> streamlined, updated code base, and adds some security enhancements to the >> process. >> >> It also has a fairly thorough debug test that can be run during setup to >> help squash environment/server problems >> >> >> Project page here: >> https://github.com/sendwheel/tw-receiver >> >> Comments and contributions welcome. >> >> >> >> Security wise offers: >> - Challenge Digest Authentication (enhanced security) >> -- This simple mechanism avoids passing the password in plain text. >> Instead the server is queried for a challenge token and that token is then >> combined with the password to form a new string that is both unique and >> temporary. >> - Data Integrity Signing (enhanced security) >> -- This practice creates a unique signature of the wiki text with the >> secret key. Checking the validity of this signature ensures the integrity >> of the wiki data and helps prevent tampering in transit. >> >> >> (also posted to TiddlyWikiDev) >> Please let me know your thoughts. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/018e889d-591a-43d4-9e0f-9d83b07ccdc1%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [tw5] Re: Easiest and privacy concerned way to publish online for a single user
Thank you Chris, This is also interesting. I have a Raspberry PI model 2B+ taking dust and maybe I can try to set it for this. I do not know if I am enough expert but I ready to learn. Regards Mario Il giorno sab 7 mar 2020 alle ore 03:47 Beckstrom ha scritto: > FWIW my approach is this: > > - I use the node.js Tiddlywiki server so I can access it from any device. > This is running on a Digital Ocean VPS > - I use nginx as a reverse proxy, directing requests to "mysite.com" to > the tiddlywiki port > - Also in nginx I have access to that URL restricted to only localhost > (only requests from the server itself can view my wiki) and my home IP > address > - I also run a VPN server on that machine > - So when I'm at home, I can just connect like a normal website > - When I'm not at home, I connect to the VPN and I can connect to the > website > > I hope that makes sense! Perhaps a complicated solution, but it works well > for me > > > On Friday, March 6, 2020 at 9:21:37 AM UTC-5, Mario Public wrote: >> >> Dear All >> >> I wish to to have my TiddlyWiki online for easy access from every >> device/location. >> I am the only user of the TiddlyWiki. >> I am using the google drive extension and it works but I would prefer not >> to host personal files there. Nothing particularly sensible, just personal. >> What is the easiest and most private way? >> I have my own domain and I tried to host the wiki there by uploading it >> and using store.php but I got errors and it did not worked. >> Is dropbox a better option? >> Thanks >> Mario >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tiddlywiki/C8qyvM1MSG0/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/8faae383-7f77-4b23-a97a-3f6c5795cb8d%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/8faae383-7f77-4b23-a97a-3f6c5795cb8d%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/CAHmyK-B%2BEtq3%2BD_BqiJ96quZ6WLftORHB6NnbuG%3DEy9DkoZLVA%40mail.gmail.com.
[tw5] Re: Easiest and privacy concerned way to publish online for a single user
Gosh..I feel so stupid! I was not thinking that it needs to be set in each device. Actually it work now! Thanks! Mario Il giorno venerdì 6 marzo 2020 23:11:10 UTC+1, Mat ha scritto: > > Mario Public wrote: >> >> Apparently changes are saved but they are not. If I browse the wiki from >> the PC or I restart the browser in the phone, they are gone. >> The same from an Ipad >> > > I'm probably stating the obvious but: There's a separate saver for > tiddlyspot natively built into TW. Make sure you've set your password there. > > <:-) > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/5e8cf842-7001-423f-84a9-651bbfc95d0f%40googlegroups.com.
[tw5] Re: Easiest and privacy concerned way to publish online for a single user
Il giorno venerdì 6 marzo 2020 22:20:38 UTC+1, Mat ha scritto: > > > > In what way does it not work? > > > Apparently changes are saved but they are not. If I browse the wiki from the PC or I restart the browser in the phone, they are gone. The same from an Ipad Mario -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/08b24337-fbe7-41bf-9e57-be9ea9bc8728%40googlegroups.com.
[tw5] Re: Easiest and privacy concerned way to publish online for a single user
Good obseravations. Just to update: I was able to create the tiddlyspot site using the site referenced but only on Chrome. Firefox failed at last step. The site is working but not from my android phone, differently from the google drive extension. The safest way would be to store the TW on my hosting website space, but I was unable to to do that (changes are not saved). Mario Il giorno venerdì 6 marzo 2020 18:53:10 UTC+1, TiddlyTweeter ha scritto: > > Right. But from end-user point of view the chain of connect matters. It is > only as good as the Weakest Link. > > Mark S. wrote: > >> I actually trust Google to do it's job. I expect they know more about >> security than hand-made PHP locations. >> What concerns me is the intermediary software that connects to Google, >> about which I know nothing, and >> which has a reference address that questionably offers to change things >> on my computer BEFORE even >> allowing me to the target site. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/24fb59a7-b0ca-4db9-a1da-5a017f4598ff%40googlegroups.com.
[tw5] Re: Easiest and privacy concerned way to publish online for a single user
Dear Mat Thank you! I will give it a try! Mario Il giorno venerdì 6 marzo 2020 15:50:58 UTC+1, Mat ha scritto: > > Hands down, tiddlyspot is the simplest solution. And the easiest way to > set one up is probably here: http://tiddlywiki5.tiddlyspot.com/ > > Other than "not giving out your url", you can restrict access to it by > going to http://yourtiddlyspot.tiddlyspot.com/controlpanel > <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fyourtiddlyspot.tiddlyspot.com%2Fcontrolpanel=D=1=AFQjCNEW3GtbwONp0pTKu0OYThmnxMF33g> > > It is probably not *secure* but if your data is merely "just not for > others" then I'd definitely say it's fine. I use it exactly like this > myself. > > <:-) > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/27f60712-ac80-4f28-a6a0-922a250f3ae3%40googlegroups.com.
[tw5] Easiest and privacy concerned way to publish online for a single user
Dear All I wish to to have my TiddlyWiki online for easy access from every device/location. I am the only user of the TiddlyWiki. I am using the google drive extension and it works but I would prefer not to host personal files there. Nothing particularly sensible, just personal. What is the easiest and most private way? I have my own domain and I tried to host the wiki there by uploading it and using store.php but I got errors and it did not worked. Is dropbox a better option? Thanks Mario -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/e952c6a2-ccab-4c71-8faa-4acdb557616b%40googlegroups.com.
[tw] Howto write a book with TD
Hi there ! I'm starting to use TD more, and reading the great documentation. One of the points of interest for me, is in the tiddler Some of the things you can do with TiddlyWiki Where one of the items is 'Write a book'. I wonder, if anyone could do this, how to do write a book with TD. Is there some special macro or plugin ? Could I arrange chapters and the make a pdf or ebook ? Thanks in advance ! Mario -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/6c924077-c9e4-4232-bdba-9b2b473c4f52%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw] Lost my plugins and now can't save to web!!
i accidentally deleted all my plugins, installed on the tag systemConfig, and now lost my save to web option. I found the plugins to install again but can't save them, as i lost the option. What can i do to recovery it??? These are the plugins i lost: http://tiddlywiki.bidix.info/#PasswordOptionPlugin http://tiddlywiki.bidix.info/#UploadPlugin http://tiddlywiki.bidix.info/#LoadRemoteFileHijack TspotSetupPlugin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[tw] Re: an open source version of the tiddlyspot server
Twine is very nice... As an aside, this is just the thing I've been waiting for to restart my internal office tiddly campaign. I've shown tiddlywiki around the office a bit, but among non-wikiers the name is a turn off and the single-user bias doesn't work well for what we need. On Feb 13, 5:56 am, Jeremy Ruston jeremy.rus...@gmail.com wrote: Chiming in rather late to say congratulations to The Amazing Rob, Daniel and Simon, this is all very exciting. I like that the Tiddlyverse has serverside options that between them cover a lot of different (and sometimes conflicting) goals. It's good to be able to welcome PHP, Ruby and Python developers alike. Cheers Jeremy On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Daniel Baird danielba...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 7:11 AM, Eric Shulman elsdes...@gmail.com wrote: TWINE: TiddlyWiki Intranet Environment ties all the needed parts together in a bundle Now that is a GREAT name. if twine.com or .org were available, i'd grab it right now. Any other suggestions, anyone? -- Daniel Baird I've tried going to the XHTML bar / a few times, but it's always closed. -- Jeremy Ruston mailto:jer...@osmosoft.comhttp://www.tiddlywiki.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Preview of TiddlyDu3
This is great work! Any chance you can make it run on the Palm Pre and the iPhone so it can start to replace all the other apps I need to keep this information portable? Or maybe is there some other handheld device that tiddly runs on? -Mario On Feb 10, 12:59 am, Morris Gray msg...@symbex.net.au wrote: Hi Dave it's looking pretty good, you have put in a lot of work and thought into it. Congratulations it has to be the best personal organizer yet. I wonder if you have given any thought to how to clean it up when finishing projects, tasks and goals. Could be possible to search for tags and delete all tags say Test Goal and clean out the whole lot of tiddlers associated leaving no orphan tiddlers? One problem with that idea at present is that you allow 'new projects' to be created under Goals. So while the new project will show up under Projects OK it is at risk of being deleted as it is also tagged with goal. Perhaps this facility should be disallowed. I have removed 'make a new project' from my GoalViewTemplate. It's still early days and I haven't explored how many interrelationships that could be created to prevent deletion by tag without something important disappearing or leaving orphans. By the way your Acknowledgements license still has NoBrainerNotes in it. Also I have reconfigured the tabs so that Help isn't hidden behind the by Extra tab by swapping the two around. I didn't rename any tiddlers just the labels in the tabs. You may be interested in seeing it I've added my usual tweaks etc. to it. I integrated TWT-Notes/NoBrainerNotes into it also, mostly to see if I could do it but it could prove useful. It's athttp://twtudu.tiddlyspot.com/ Morris On Feb 10, 2:04 am, Dave Gifford -http://www.giffmex.org/; giff...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, Something in GoalViewTemplate that was working at first, got messed up yesterday when I pasted a faulty parameter in the newhere macro. I changed it to doublequotes from singlequotes in the macro, and it should be okay now. @Morris, thanks for calling my attention to that! So for those of you following along, the tiddlers I have fixed are 1. GoalViewTemplate (fixed the title parameter of the newhere macro) 2. EditTemplate (removed unneeded stuff like NoteNote left over from the No-Brainer Notes EditTemplate) (also reinserted the tag chooser for Morris, though I personally find it annoying and have never used it) 3. NewHereMacrowithGiffmexTweak is now NewHerePlugin, and is back to its original form without the unneeded tweak that was also a carry- over from NBN. Import these, or at the very least the first one, fromhttp://www.giffmex.org/tiddlydu3.html, and you will be in good shape. @Morris, the welcome tiddler is just a welcome, not a homepage. It's not something people will need after the initial introductory phase. If anything, I'm hoping people will use 'Current' as their default page, not Welcome. And as the welcome tiddler itself says, all the instructions are found in the help tab (inside the extras tab). That includes the Welcome tiddler. I don't plan to change that. Blessings, Dave --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: iPhone 3G
Willsy, If you get this up and running I will buy an iPhone, or at least an iPod touch (not that you get a commission or anything). The only thing stopping me now is that I use my pda for two main things - contacts and a wikified notepad. So, contacts - check, wikified notepad - none that I can find. When you have it going please please please post at least a high level overview of the tech you used and some of the hurdles you got over. Thanks! Mario. On Nov 14, 4:26 am, FND [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been using TW for a year or more now and I *really* want this function on my iPhone. I also want to be able to save. I'm not an iPhone user myself, but maybe the community wiki can provide some leads here: http://www.tiddlywiki.org/wiki/IPhone The possibility of setting up a local web server isn't mention there yet; would be worth adding it there. Do I have any other options other than PHP to get this working ? If the iPhone supports Python (and a quick Google search suggests it does), you could also use TiddlyWeb: http://www.tiddlywiki.org/wiki/TiddlyWeb thing is that I store confidential information (social sec numbers, credit cards, etc etc), so I cannot risk having a copy on the net. It needs to be on my phone and encrypted. I use the TiddlerEncryptionPlugin for this sort of thing: http://www.remotely-helpful.com/TiddlyWiki/TiddlerEncryptionPlugin.html HTH. -- F. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Hypergraph as a visual TW table of contents
Hi everyone-working-on-this, I just wanted to cheer you all on. Ever since finding TiddlyWiki I've felt that it has real potential to help with some of the work I do and I've been especially interested in the development of these visualization techniques. Thank you for all the effort you are putting into this! These animated graphs that stay synced with the content of the tiddlywiki are great. Does anybody know if this stuff will work on a hosted tiddlywiki at tiddlyspot? -Mario On Oct 13, 4:05 am, rakugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Wolfgang, Thanks for all the comments. I complete aree with comments on drag, zooming and customising. All these things I am hoping to rectify with a massive code rewrite, I am hoping to package everything up to minimise the amount of installation required and also aiming to separate preferences so that they are not hard coded and thus the TagMindMap is easier to tweek. Regarding displaying the whole content like hypergraph.. the big issue here is performance. Although possible I have seen it break big Tiddlywikis and alot here needs to be ironed out, but I agree this would be the ideal. I guess I came from it from a different angle, as what I tend to do is search for a tiddler/tag first then borrow through the TagMindMap to find the tiddler I am looking for (so it sits on top of the search bit). I will rethink this from your perspective and see if I can find an easier solution.. Thanks for all the feedback.. much appreciated :) Jon On Oct 11, 1:35 pm, wolfgang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Jon, and of course let me know how I can improve it.. .. thanks for having an open ear for suggestions. Though reading your own 'to do list' athttp://preview.tinyurl.com/5yb26citseems you're pretty aware what still needs to be done to make tiddlytagmindmap useful. - However, having it side by side compared with a more matured hypergraph does show its real shortcomings very well. The most obvious: TagMindMap shows you the relation of an opened tiddler to immediate tiddlers really nice - but it doesn't show an index or map of the whole content, or the position in relation to such. And increasing the dept of relation from 1 to 2 doesn't solves this, as it than gets truly confusing. For example, just tried to find your tiddler 'Work to be done (tiddlytagmindmap)' again - and it took me much more time than it would have with the ordinary tabs of a TW of the same size of content. So it doesn't replace the navigation of a TabTags or TagCloud yet at all. And it's much harder for me than with hypergraph to have a doable solution for this equal shortcoming (but maybe we just haven't found the proper way to tag yet?) Nevertheless, necessary addition in this direction I would consider: # the ability to customize its size: it wasn't possible for me to give it a 100% width (or any other value) in the stylesheet to use more screen space, since the nodes wouldn't synchronize with the position of the cycles. Only by hacking the original plugin code was it possible to give it some wider fixed value. # vertical size customize-ability: even more urgent because if an immediate related tiddler is on a cycle above or below it isn't visible. # drag ability: this would help much more than increasing its vertical size, which is limited if one also wants to see tiddlers. # the ability to place it where and how one wants: first thing I did, hide the slider button and toggle its div with a tiddlytools toggle bookmarklet. I really like your idea of combining it with TiddlyDesktop, but there it would be much more useful in a tiddler than in the background, since only this tiddler would have to be brought to the foreground, and not all others minimized for having the overview. # zoom peripheral cycles gap and nodes out. # customize-able connectors between nodes: less obtrusive and than maybe dept 2 would be much more useful. # don't combine its distribution with a custom TW like Mptw, but stripe it to its essentials. Otherwise you make it harder to setup for newcomers to TW. ... I think that already enough for now ;-) and that TagglyTagMindMap will become a really useful contribution. Cheers, W. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---