Re: [tw5] Hi, very glad to have found TiddlyWiki

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Hi Satyajit,

 Welcome to the community and thank you for your contribution!
 Saving and serving locally is an area with a lot of interest in the
Tiddlywiki community!
 I highly recommend to see
https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/t/tw5-hi-very-glad-to-have-found-tiddlywiki/1442
 and join us at https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/ the new forum for Tiddlywiki!


Best wishes
Mohammad


On Sat, Nov 6, 2021 at 2:13 AM Satyajit Ranjeev  wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> I'm very much new here. I found out about TiddlyWiki a while back, and it
> has been quite a lot of fun with it.
>
> I started playing around with a local server and a plugin to both serve
> the files and provide a way to store images and attachments outside the
> TiddlyWiki file. It is in a very early stage and probably with bugs, but
> would love to have your feedback. You can find all of it either in
> https://satran.github.io/tiddlygo/ or https://github.com/satran/tiddlygo.
>
> The plugin I have derived it from the ExternalAttachment plugin. I guess
> this idea could be carried out to the GitHub saving method as well. As
> mentioned would love to hear your thoughts.
>
> Satyajit
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Re: [tw5] [Announcement] We've Tiddlefied the "Google Group" :)

[Mohammad Rahmani]

This is incredible!
Thank you a million!

Please consider adding this to tw5.com (docs).



Best wishes
Mohammad


On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 11:29 PM Taacees ME  wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> We (The Tiddlefiers) are VERY PROUD to announce that we FINISHED our 25K &
> Goodfelaws projects
>
> You can find a SAMPLE Data in:
> DEMO Data: https://taacees.github.io/TiddlySweets/
> Video (Explain): https://youtu.be/B9-iSFwLAHA
>
> What?
> We've Tiddlefed (Convert them to TW5) the 3 TiddlyWiki Google Groups
> (Users, Dev and Docs)
>
> Why?
> It was an Idea, transformed to an "Internal Project" then became:
> ~410K Tiddlers
> ~650MB Total Data size
> ~30K Conversations
> ~ 190K Messages
>
> Regards
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Re: [tw5] How to add warning macro to my Tiddlywiki

[Mohammad Rahmani]

You may also like kookma Classic Notes
http://classic-notes.tiddlyspot.com/

[image: image.png]



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Mohammad


On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 2:57 PM Dieterv  wrote:

> I use my TiddlyWiki as some sort of external memory to compensate for my
> lack of good memory.
>
> Often I am searching for a way to attract my attention to (for instance if
> I have a tiddler containing all kinds of linux commands, there might be
> some non-intuitive commands that I need to watch out for).
>
> Right now I would use something like:
> |!Watch out for this:|
> To create something eyecatching but that isn't too great.
>
> I found warning and tip macros used on pages like these
>  but using <<.warning
> "some text">>> does not render for me. I suppose I need to add a macro
> somewhere and have been trying to find the correct way by digging in to the
> wiki that I linked above, but cannot find how to make that work.
>
> Any pointers? Thanks!
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[tw5] Talk Tiddlywiki Tips and Tricks

[Mohammad Rahmani]

For those who recently joined or hesitant to join Talk Tiddlywiki (
https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/) I would recommend reading this Tips and Trick

https://blog.discourse.org/2016/12/discourse-new-user-tips-and-tricks/


For a smoother transition from Google group to Talk Tiddlywiki (
https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/)


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Re: [tw5] Re: Use Talk Tiddlywiki instead of Google Forum

[Mohammad Rahmani]

A killing feature https://talk.tiddlywiki.org has is ability to post to
Talk forum directly from your Tiddlywiki.

*See the solution here!*
https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/t/admin-what-about-posting-to-discourse-via-url/410/6


Thank you to @TiddlyTweeter  , @BurningTreeC
and @Sii

Are still hesitant to try https://talk.tiddlywiki.org and perhaps move to
it!

Best wishes
Mohammad


On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 8:31 PM Mohammad  wrote:

> More features
>
> *https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/ *
>
> 1. is much more readable on my mobile phone than GG
> 2. is more mobile friendly in terms of layout
> 3. allows me to reply privately to author
> 4. allow me to create a wiki (means a page, multiple users can edit it)
> 5. when I type the new post subjects warns me of similar questions
> 6. display the summary of page if I put a link
>
> talk.tiddlywiki.org makes life easier!
>
> On Thursday, August 19, 2021 at 3:04:08 PM UTC+4:30 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> *Why should we use Talk Tiddlywiki (https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/
>> ) instead of Google Forum?*
>>
>>
>>1. it mirrors all posts from Google Forum, so you will be notified
>>what is going on Google Forum
>>2. it allows previewing your post before sending
>>3. it allows editing your post after it was sent! (this is very good
>>feature I frequently need)
>>4. it supports pinig other users
>>5. it support code block
>>6. it supports nice sharing features e.g share to Twitter
>>
>>
>> Please complete this list with features I missed!
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
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Re: [tw5] Re: Use Talk Tiddlywiki instead of Google Forum

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On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 10:00 AM TiddlyTweeter 
wrote:

> Ciao Mohammad


Hello Jociah,



>
> A PROBLEM with the short form for our Discourse group (
> https://talk.tiddlywiki.org) is it make it "TT".
>
> *BUT I'm TT ! (@TiddlyTweeter) :-). *
>

Oh, yes, it is registered name by you ;-)

>
> I'm  Reviewing The Situation 
> with my on-line name for Discourse. :-)
>

Sure I use Talk Tiddlywiki instead of TT in future post!

>
> Best wishes
> TT
>
> On Tuesday, 31 August 2021 at 06:37:25 UTC+2 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> One nice feature of TT (https://talk.tiddlywiki.org) is it has syntax
>> highlighting and it knows code blocks!
>> I can simply copy codes bysing the handy button top right of code block
>> and paste in my Tiddlywiki!
>>
>> For example see
>> https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/t/tw5-list-sort-by-count-field-operator/366/7
>>
>> Thank you TT! You made life easier!
>>
>






>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 8:31 PM Mohammad  wrote:
>>
>>> More features
>>>
>>> *https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/ *
>>>
>>> 1. is much more readable on my mobile phone than GG
>>> 2. is more mobile friendly in terms of layout
>>> 3. allows me to reply privately to author
>>> 4. allow me to create a wiki (means a page, multiple users can edit it)
>>> 5. when I type the new post subjects warns me of similar questions
>>> 6. display the summary of page if I put a link
>>>
>>> talk.tiddlywiki.org makes life easier!
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 19, 2021 at 3:04:08 PM UTC+4:30 Mohammad wrote:
>>>
 *Why should we use Talk Tiddlywiki (https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/
 ) instead of Google Forum?*


1. it mirrors all posts from Google Forum, so you will be notified
what is going on Google Forum
2. it allows previewing your post before sending
3. it allows editing your post after it was sent! (this is very
good feature I frequently need)
4. it supports pinig other users
5. it support code block
6. it supports nice sharing features e.g share to Twitter


 Please complete this list with features I missed!


 Best wishes
 Mohammad

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Re: [tw5] Re: List sort by count field operator

[Mohammad Rahmani]

A Gloom

The code works with data provided by Jim and it also sorts!
To give a try download data of Jim post above and drag and drop to
tiddlywiki.com
Next in a new tiddler paste the code of my last post you will see

[image: image.png]



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Mohammad


On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 7:55 AM A Gloom  wrote:

> Soren, sorry about the delay-- this something low on my list of too many
> things to do, so I haven't been dedicating enough time to it.  Let me
> export some shell tiddlers with the fields and values from the real world
> attempt at this issue.
>
> Mohammad, good to see you responding as well.  I tried your solution, it
> displayed the field values with counts but didn't sort them by the counts
> (count of fields with each value).  Playing with things-- I inserted a
> <> in the list so that each list result (see [1] beow) would show
> the criteria variable for each.  It's displaying: [tag[zz@]zztopiccount[]]
> **(note the " zztopiccount ", zztopic being the field name)
> It appears that it's not applying  from the criteria $vars
> widget.  The entire code (yours altered to work with my tiddlers selection)
> I used is below [2].  It displays what is expect but not sorting.
>
> [1]
> <$link/> (<$count filter="[tag[zz@AYoS]ayostopic]"/>)
> ::: <>
>
> [2]
> <$vars criteria="[tag[zz@]zztopiccount[]]">
> 
> <$list filter="[tag[zz@]each[zztopic]get[zztopic]]
> +[!sortsub:integer]">
> <$link/> (<$count filter="[tag[zz@]zztopic]"/>) :::
> <>
> 
> 
> 
>
>
> On Monday, August 30, 2021 at 5:20:19 PM UTC-4 amreus wrote:
>
>> Mohammad.
>>
>> That is brilliant!
>>
>> I made many attempts at a filter but never was able to get it.  The
>> missing piece for me is the currentTiddler in the criteria variable.  In
>> the context of the list, currentTiddler is the surname.  It makes sense
>> after I see it.  This indicates I am still not understanding macros and
>> variables correctly.
>>
>> Thanks again!
>>
>>
>> On Monday, August 30, 2021 at 4:29:58 PM UTC-4 Mohammad wrote:
>>
>>> Ah, sorry I did not notice a sorted output was requested! This is the
>>> final solution with sort capability!
>>>
>>> ```
>>> 
>>> <$vars criteria="[all[tiddlers]surnamecount[]]">
>>> <$list filter="[all[tiddlers]!is[system]each[surname]get[surname]]
>>> +[!sortsub:number]">
>>>
>>> <$link/>(<$count
>>> filter="[all[tiddlers]surname]"/>)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ```
>>> Note, this works in TW 5.1.23+
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> Mohammad
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 11:58 PM amreus  wrote:
>>>
 Thank you Mohammad,

 I have learned much from your wikis on github.

 However, in your enthusiasm I think you over-looked the desire to sort
 the names by count.

 I thought I saw an old post that showed a possible way by using an
 intermediate list, prefixing the count to the title with a delimiter,
 sorting the list, and finally splitting the count from the title - but I am
 unable to find it using search, and also do not recall if the method could
 be applied in this case.


 On Monday, August 30, 2021 at 11:28:26 AM UTC-4 Mohammad wrote:

> Jim,
> Give a try with this script!
>
> 
> <$list filter="[all[tiddlers]!is[system]each[surname]get[surname]]">
> <$link/>(<$count
> filter="[all[tiddlers]surname]"/>)
> 
> 
> You can also replace <$link/>  with <$text text=<>/>
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 29, 2021 at 6:15 PM Jim  wrote:
>
>> Not OP but in my case, I'd like to generate a list of surnames sorted
>> by how many tiddlers share the same surname field.
>>
>> Output should look similar to this:
>>
>>
>>- Took (26)
>>- Brandybuck (24)
>>- Baggins (24)
>>- Bolger (22)
>>- Boffin (18)
>>- Gardner (14)
>>- Gamgee (7)
>>- Burrows (7)
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 9:10:08 AM UTC-4 Soren Bjornstad wrote:
>>
>>> Can you maybe upload a small wiki with some tiddlers that could
>>> serve as an example? It's pretty difficult to go into more depth without
>>> any data to try it on.

 teric wikiery would be greatly appreciated...
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Re: [tw5] Re: Use Talk Tiddlywiki instead of Google Forum

[Mohammad Rahmani]

One nice feature of TT (https://talk.tiddlywiki.org) is it has syntax
highlighting and it knows code blocks!
I can simply copy codes bysing the handy button top right of code block and
paste in my Tiddlywiki!

For example see
https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/t/tw5-list-sort-by-count-field-operator/366/7

Thank you TT! You made life easier!

Best wishes
Mohammad


On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 8:31 PM Mohammad  wrote:

> More features
>
> *https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/ *
>
> 1. is much more readable on my mobile phone than GG
> 2. is more mobile friendly in terms of layout
> 3. allows me to reply privately to author
> 4. allow me to create a wiki (means a page, multiple users can edit it)
> 5. when I type the new post subjects warns me of similar questions
> 6. display the summary of page if I put a link
>
> talk.tiddlywiki.org makes life easier!
>
> On Thursday, August 19, 2021 at 3:04:08 PM UTC+4:30 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> *Why should we use Talk Tiddlywiki (https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/
>> ) instead of Google Forum?*
>>
>>
>>1. it mirrors all posts from Google Forum, so you will be notified
>>what is going on Google Forum
>>2. it allows previewing your post before sending
>>3. it allows editing your post after it was sent! (this is very good
>>feature I frequently need)
>>4. it supports pinig other users
>>5. it support code block
>>6. it supports nice sharing features e.g share to Twitter
>>
>>
>> Please complete this list with features I missed!
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: List sort by count field operator

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On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 11:58 PM amreus  wrote:

> Thank you Mohammad,
>
> I have learned much from your wikis on github.
>

Glad they are useful ;-)

>
> However, in your enthusiasm I think you over-looked the desire to sort the
> names by count.
>
> I thought I saw an old post that showed a possible way by using an
> intermediate list, prefixing the count to the title with a delimiter,
> sorting the list, and finally splitting the count from the title - but I am
> unable to find it using search, and also do not recall if the method could
> be applied in this case.
>

in TW 5.1.23+ life is much easier! no need to go through that length
process! Now you can use the wonderful sortsub!



>
>
> On Monday, August 30, 2021 at 11:28:26 AM UTC-4 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Jim,
>> Give a try with this script!
>>
>> 
>> <$list filter="[all[tiddlers]!is[system]each[surname]get[surname]]">
>> <$link/>(<$count
>> filter="[all[tiddlers]surname]"/>)
>> 
>> 
>> You can also replace <$link/>  with <$text text=<>/>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 29, 2021 at 6:15 PM Jim  wrote:
>>
>>> Not OP but in my case, I'd like to generate a list of surnames sorted by
>>> how many tiddlers share the same surname field.
>>>
>>> Output should look similar to this:
>>>
>>>
>>>- Took (26)
>>>- Brandybuck (24)
>>>- Baggins (24)
>>>- Bolger (22)
>>>- Boffin (18)
>>>- Gardner (14)
>>>- Gamgee (7)
>>>- Burrows (7)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 9:10:08 AM UTC-4 Soren Bjornstad wrote:
>>>
 Can you maybe upload a small wiki with some tiddlers that could serve
 as an example? It's pretty difficult to go into more depth without any data
 to try it on.
>
> teric wikiery would be greatly appreciated...
>>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: List sort by count field operator

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Ah, sorry I did not notice a sorted output was requested! This is the final
solution with sort capability!

```

<$vars criteria="[all[tiddlers]surnamecount[]]">
<$list filter="[all[tiddlers]!is[system]each[surname]get[surname]]
+[!sortsub:number]">
<$link/>(<$count filter="[all[tiddlers]surname]"/>)



```
Note, this works in TW 5.1.23+



Best wishes
Mohammad


On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 11:58 PM amreus  wrote:

> Thank you Mohammad,
>
> I have learned much from your wikis on github.
>
> However, in your enthusiasm I think you over-looked the desire to sort the
> names by count.
>
> I thought I saw an old post that showed a possible way by using an
> intermediate list, prefixing the count to the title with a delimiter,
> sorting the list, and finally splitting the count from the title - but I am
> unable to find it using search, and also do not recall if the method could
> be applied in this case.
>
>
> On Monday, August 30, 2021 at 11:28:26 AM UTC-4 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Jim,
>> Give a try with this script!
>>
>> 
>> <$list filter="[all[tiddlers]!is[system]each[surname]get[surname]]">
>> <$link/>(<$count
>> filter="[all[tiddlers]surname]"/>)
>> 
>> 
>> You can also replace <$link/>  with <$text text=<>/>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 29, 2021 at 6:15 PM Jim  wrote:
>>
>>> Not OP but in my case, I'd like to generate a list of surnames sorted by
>>> how many tiddlers share the same surname field.
>>>
>>> Output should look similar to this:
>>>
>>>
>>>- Took (26)
>>>- Brandybuck (24)
>>>- Baggins (24)
>>>- Bolger (22)
>>>- Boffin (18)
>>>- Gardner (14)
>>>- Gamgee (7)
>>>- Burrows (7)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 9:10:08 AM UTC-4 Soren Bjornstad wrote:
>>>
 Can you maybe upload a small wiki with some tiddlers that could serve
 as an example? It's pretty difficult to go into more depth without any data
 to try it on.
>
> teric wikiery would be greatly appreciated...
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Re: [tw5] Re: List sort by count field operator

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Jim,
Give a try with this script!


<$list filter="[all[tiddlers]!is[system]each[surname]get[surname]]">
<$link/>(<$count filter="[all[tiddlers]surname]"/>)


You can also replace <$link/>  with <$text text=<>/>


Best wishes
Mohammad


On Sun, Aug 29, 2021 at 6:15 PM Jim  wrote:

> Not OP but in my case, I'd like to generate a list of surnames sorted by
> how many tiddlers share the same surname field.
>
> Output should look similar to this:
>
>
>- Took (26)
>- Brandybuck (24)
>- Baggins (24)
>- Bolger (22)
>- Boffin (18)
>- Gardner (14)
>- Gamgee (7)
>- Burrows (7)
>
>
> On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 9:10:08 AM UTC-4 Soren Bjornstad wrote:
>
>> Can you maybe upload a small wiki with some tiddlers that could serve as
>> an example? It's pretty difficult to go into more depth without any data to
>> try it on.
>>>
>>> teric wikiery would be greatly appreciated...
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Re: [tw5] Re: Use Talk Tiddlywiki instead of Google Forum

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Hi Charlie,

 Boris has replied and suggested having a look at Discourse themes, they
welcome to add more themes!
Please see https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/t/other-themes-for-discourse/446



Best wishes
Mohammad


On Sun, Aug 29, 2021 at 8:46 AM Charlie Veniot  wrote:

> Just to re-iterate:
>
>- "Sam's Simple Theme" does address one major problem I had
>
>
>- *HOWEVER* *(I think Mohammed was referring to this major peeve of
>mine)*: when viewing a discussion topic/thread, the obscene size of
>left and right side margins rob me of almost 50% of my 27 inch display's
>available space width-wise, making for more vertical scrolling and content
>flying vertically out of view
>
>
> On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 12:42:08 AM UTC-3 strikke...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Mohammed,
>> Go to preferences then Interface and you will see Sams Simple theme.
>>
>> On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 5:31:08 AM UTC+2 Mohammad wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 29, 2021 at 12:03 AM Charlie Veniot 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Yeah, GG still works better for me than TT on my desktop.

 I don't do mobile, and I suspect it is the mobile goodness in discourse
 that makes the desktop experience pretty crappy from my perspective.

 Every several days or so, I do visit https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/.

 My big annoyance at the moment: I have a nice 27 inch display and
 almost half of the width is used up by obscenely sized margins on left and
 right side, forcing me into more scrolling up and down.  (Not an issue when
 viewing list of topics; is an issue when viewing a specific topic.)

>>>
>>> *Q:*
>>>
>>> To the attention of https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/. admin!
>>> Are there other themes out there to be selected based on the user's
>>> taste and need?
>>>
>>>
>>>

 If that gets addressed, then I'll be fine moving to talk.tiddly.org
 when GG gets locked.

 On the positive side:

- My previous annoyance with much-too-busy topics screen was
resolved by the "Sam's Simple Theme".
- WCAG Dark color scheme is good.




 On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 1:10:21 PM UTC-3 Mohammad wrote:

> One more exciting feature of talk.tiddlywiki.org
>
> When I send a message in GG, I see it in talk.tiddlywiki.org. It
> mirrors GG and all posts (Q)
>
> So, when I am not active in GG, I see what is going on in GG!
> Amazingly is If I send a post in GG, then I can edit it in TT (
> talk.tiddlywiki.org)
> TT is forgiving enough to allow me to edit my mistakes in GG!
>
> Are you still hesitant which is better: GG or TT?
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 8:31 PM Mohammad 
> wrote:
>
>> More features
>>
>> *https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/ *
>>
>> 1. is much more readable on my mobile phone than GG
>> 2. is more mobile friendly in terms of layout
>> 3. allows me to reply privately to author
>> 4. allow me to create a wiki (means a page, multiple users can edit
>> it)
>> 5. when I type the new post subjects warns me of similar questions
>> 6. display the summary of page if I put a link
>>
>> talk.tiddlywiki.org makes life easier!
>>
>> On Thursday, August 19, 2021 at 3:04:08 PM UTC+4:30 Mohammad wrote:
>>
>>> *Why should we use Talk Tiddlywiki (https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/
>>> ) instead of Google Forum?*
>>>
>>>
>>>1. it mirrors all posts from Google Forum, so you will be
>>>notified what is going on Google Forum
>>>2. it allows previewing your post before sending
>>>3. it allows editing your post after it was sent! (this is very
>>>good feature I frequently need)
>>>4. it supports pinig other users
>>>5. it support code block
>>>6. it supports nice sharing features e.g share to Twitter
>>>
>>>
>>> Please complete this list with features I missed!
>>>
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> Mohammad
>>>
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Re: [tw5] Some coding fun: A Word Occurrence Highlighter

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Very nice!
I would suggest adding a little documentation!
I also like to add this to the standard TW search!



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Mohammad


On Sun, Aug 29, 2021 at 9:09 AM Charlie Veniot  wrote:

> Drag the attached to https://tiddlywiki.com/ to import the single tiddler.
>
> This bit of coding fun inspired by the Highlighting duplicates in lists
>  discussion thread.
>
> My kind of "BrainAge" game.
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Re: [tw5] Re: Use Talk Tiddlywiki instead of Google Forum

[Mohammad Rahmani]

On Sun, Aug 29, 2021 at 12:03 AM Charlie Veniot  wrote:

> Yeah, GG still works better for me than TT on my desktop.
>
> I don't do mobile, and I suspect it is the mobile goodness in discourse
> that makes the desktop experience pretty crappy from my perspective.
>
> Every several days or so, I do visit https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/.
>
> My big annoyance at the moment: I have a nice 27 inch display and almost
> half of the width is used up by obscenely sized margins on left and right
> side, forcing me into more scrolling up and down.  (Not an issue when
> viewing list of topics; is an issue when viewing a specific topic.)
>

*Q:*

To the attention of https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/. admin!
Are there other themes out there to be selected based on the user's taste
and need?



>
> If that gets addressed, then I'll be fine moving to talk.tiddly.org when
> GG gets locked.
>
> On the positive side:
>
>- My previous annoyance with much-too-busy topics screen was resolved
>by the "Sam's Simple Theme".
>- WCAG Dark color scheme is good.
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 1:10:21 PM UTC-3 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> One more exciting feature of talk.tiddlywiki.org
>>
>> When I send a message in GG, I see it in talk.tiddlywiki.org. It mirrors
>> GG and all posts (Q)
>>
>> So, when I am not active in GG, I see what is going on in GG!
>> Amazingly is If I send a post in GG, then I can edit it in TT (
>> talk.tiddlywiki.org)
>> TT is forgiving enough to allow me to edit my mistakes in GG!
>>
>> Are you still hesitant which is better: GG or TT?
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 8:31 PM Mohammad  wrote:
>>
>>> More features
>>>
>>> *https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/ *
>>>
>>> 1. is much more readable on my mobile phone than GG
>>> 2. is more mobile friendly in terms of layout
>>> 3. allows me to reply privately to author
>>> 4. allow me to create a wiki (means a page, multiple users can edit it)
>>> 5. when I type the new post subjects warns me of similar questions
>>> 6. display the summary of page if I put a link
>>>
>>> talk.tiddlywiki.org makes life easier!
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 19, 2021 at 3:04:08 PM UTC+4:30 Mohammad wrote:
>>>
 *Why should we use Talk Tiddlywiki (https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/
 ) instead of Google Forum?*


1. it mirrors all posts from Google Forum, so you will be notified
what is going on Google Forum
2. it allows previewing your post before sending
3. it allows editing your post after it was sent! (this is very
good feature I frequently need)
4. it supports pinig other users
5. it support code block
6. it supports nice sharing features e.g share to Twitter


 Please complete this list with features I missed!


 Best wishes
 Mohammad

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[tw5] Re: Kookma Library and Plugins on Talk Tiddlywiki

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Sorry for the displaced message! Here it was https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/

Best wishes
Mohammad


On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 8:49 PM Mohammad Rahmani 
wrote:

> I meant https://links.tiddlywiki.com/  not talk!
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 6:51 PM Mohammad Rahmani <
> mohammad.rahm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> As Talk Tiddlywiki has better support and useful features for announcing
>> tools in a categorized form and also
>> great features to keep in touch with potential users. I decided to use
>> Talk Tiddlywiki instead of Google Forum for future announcements!
>>
>> Still I use GG for reference and as a resource!
>>
>> I would recommend to have a look at https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
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[tw5] Re: Kookma Library and Plugins on Talk Tiddlywiki

[Mohammad Rahmani]

I meant https://links.tiddlywiki.com/  not talk!


Best wishes
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On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 6:51 PM Mohammad Rahmani 
wrote:

> As Talk Tiddlywiki has better support and useful features for announcing
> tools in a categorized form and also
> great features to keep in touch with potential users. I decided to use
> Talk Tiddlywiki instead of Google Forum for future announcements!
>
> Still I use GG for reference and as a resource!
>
> I would recommend to have a look at https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/
>
>
> Best wishes
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Re: [tw5] Re: Use Talk Tiddlywiki instead of Google Forum

[Mohammad Rahmani]

One more exciting feature of talk.tiddlywiki.org

When I send a message in GG, I see it in talk.tiddlywiki.org. It mirrors GG
and all posts (Q)

So, when I am not active in GG, I see what is going on in GG!
Amazingly is If I send a post in GG, then I can edit it in TT (
talk.tiddlywiki.org)
TT is forgiving enough to allow me to edit my mistakes in GG!

Are you still hesitant which is better: GG or TT?


Best wishes
Mohammad


On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 8:31 PM Mohammad  wrote:

> More features
>
> *https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/ *
>
> 1. is much more readable on my mobile phone than GG
> 2. is more mobile friendly in terms of layout
> 3. allows me to reply privately to author
> 4. allow me to create a wiki (means a page, multiple users can edit it)
> 5. when I type the new post subjects warns me of similar questions
> 6. display the summary of page if I put a link
>
> talk.tiddlywiki.org makes life easier!
>
> On Thursday, August 19, 2021 at 3:04:08 PM UTC+4:30 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> *Why should we use Talk Tiddlywiki (https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/
>> ) instead of Google Forum?*
>>
>>
>>1. it mirrors all posts from Google Forum, so you will be notified
>>what is going on Google Forum
>>2. it allows previewing your post before sending
>>3. it allows editing your post after it was sent! (this is very good
>>feature I frequently need)
>>4. it supports pinig other users
>>5. it support code block
>>6. it supports nice sharing features e.g share to Twitter
>>
>>
>> Please complete this list with features I missed!
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
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Re: [tw5] Collapse and expand headings in a tiddler

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Have a look at Shiraz!

See display on demand
See FAQ and how it works (open/closed status)

you will see some good solutions there!


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On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 7:53 AM Sandip Deshmukh 
wrote:

> ReadThisLongManual tiddler carries this:
>
> ! Heading1
>
> {{||PartOne}}
>
> {{||PartTwo}}
>
> !! Heading 2
>
> Some text under the heading
>
> {{||PartThree}}
>
> When rendered, there will be several headings. Some of these will come
> from the transcluded templates.
>
> Is there a way to collapse/ expand these headings at will? So, while
> viewing, either clicking on the heading will collapse/ expand it or there
> is a tiny button next to it that will do the collapse/ expand?
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Re: [tw5] Renaming and deleting fields

[Mohammad Rahmani]

If you do this frequently for the number of tiddlers you may use Tiddler
Commander!



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On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 3:04 PM Sandip Deshmukh 
wrote:

> It is easy to rename and delete tags.
>
> But how do I do the same with fields?
>
> Suppose, fld1 and fld2 are the fields I have created.
>
> How can I rename fld1 to field1 and remove (so it does not show up in the
> list of fields available when I create a tiddler) fld2?
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Re: [tw5] tw5-primer v1.0.1 is here!

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Finn
I would recommend separating the color palette from layout (theme)!
Right now, I cannot change the color palette!



Best wishes
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On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 1:21 AM Finn Lancaster  wrote:

> Earlier today, I released my newest plugin/theme: tw5-primer, using the
> primer.css library. Now, I'm happy to announce v1.0.1 is here, where I have
> built upon the old code to conform with TW standards, as recommended by
> @PMario.
>
> For those of you who haven't already seen it, a demo/install can be found
> at tw5-primer.finnsoftware.net , and its github page is at
> https://github.com/flancast90/tw5-primer.
>
> *What's new?*
> - There is no longer any js portion involved in the theme
> - instead, everything is now CSS as a styles.tid file. This keeps your
> wiki lightning fast, as well as usable in no-internet situations!
> - Theming colors updated: edit area, tags, etc all are different looking
> using a mix of primer classes and my own CSS!
>
> *And one Last Thing:*
> I'm looking to get some others opinions on this; I would like to rename
> the plugin the Charcoal, or perhaps Ebony to reflect its modern feel, but
> would also like to keep the fact that it uses some (not much anymore) code
> from Primer.css, and is based upon it.
>
> What do you guys think? Any different ideas for names?
>
> As usual, if you appreciate my work on this, drop a star at the github:
> https://github.com/flancast90/tw5-primer
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Re: [tw5] We need more discourse about Discourse ... and not just the positives ...

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Hi Josiah,
 There is a very nice demo and bot teach you how to use Discourse (of
course basics)
 https://try.discourse.org/

 You have to sign up! For me it was really helpful!



Best wishes
Mohammad


On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 3:06 PM TiddlyTweeter 
wrote:

> Following other folks enthusiasm I signed up to Discourse.
> BUT it is something of an issue  how it works.
>
> I am a beginner there so I can only express *Opinions*, not a fully
> formed critique yet.
> BUT there ARE *snafus* that need attention BEFORE any mass migration ...
>
> SINCE it is looking increasingly likely we WILL migrate, it is very
> important that regular GG users express not just positive opinions but also
> any concerns they have about it soon.
>
> FWIW, my biggest concern with Discourse is *I am not yet convinced is
> will be user friendly* for newbies or for a user only wanting to post
> occasional questions.
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Re: [tw5] "I moved to Discourse" - add your name too?

[Mohammad Rahmani]

See https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/

On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 7:37 PM Jon  wrote:

> Oh... what's the link?
>
> On Thursday, 19 August 2021 at 15:23:33 UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> I am moving too!
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 4:28 PM David Gifford  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone
>>>
>>> I am moving to Discourse and don't plan to post here anymore.
>>>
>>> Rather than have each of us do this as a separate thread, maybe everyone
>>> who does the same as me might want to just reply to this thread to add
>>> their names to the list. So people can see this is a serious exodus from
>>> one platform to the other. Maybe that will encourage more people to do the
>>> same.
>>>
>>> Blessings.
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Re: [tw5] Re: [ Streams ] future development plans

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Tones,

 I think Boris and  Mario are the Admin of Talk Tiddlywiki!
It is good to ask from them!





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Mohammad


On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 5:29 PM TW Tones  wrote:

> Fair enough, but I can't get access yet, there is a bug?, so it may be
> premature to make it a rule.
>
> Thanks for the presentation Saq.
>
> Tones
>
> On Thursday, 19 August 2021 at 19:01:43 UTC+10 Saq Imtiaz wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I've started a thread about future development plans for Streams
>> .
>>
>> Please note that I will no longer be monitoring or replying to Streams
>> related matters on the Google Group. Please address any questions, comments
>> or feedback that you wish for me to see to either the Discourse forum
>>  or Github
>> .
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Regards,
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Re: [tw5] "I moved to Discourse" - add your name too?

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I am moving too!



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>
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[tw5] Kookma Library and Plugins on Talk Tiddlywiki

[Mohammad Rahmani]

As Talk Tiddlywiki has better support and useful features for announcing
tools in a categorized form and also
great features to keep in touch with potential users. I decided to use Talk
Tiddlywiki instead of Google Forum for future announcements!

Still I use GG for reference and as a resource!

I would recommend to have a look at https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/


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Re: [tw5] Re: Refnotes Plugin: New release 1.7.0

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Thank you @Ste
I am glad you like it!


Best wishes
Mohammad


On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 4:37 PM Ste  wrote:

> Amazing stuff as ever!
>
> On Friday, 13 August 2021 at 18:22:13 UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> *Refnotes plugin has got a new update 1.7.0 on Tiddlywiki 5.2.0p*
>>
>> Now you can copy a bibtex entry from a webpage like Google Scholar and
>> paste (from clipboard) it in the dedicated drop zone!
>> You can even drag and drop a portion of text from another doc, page, ...
>> no need to import or drag files! String data can be dropped or pasted!
>> See attached video!
>>
>> Special thanks go to Saq Imtiaz for his wonderful contributions to
>> Tiddlywiki core! He made this possible in TW 5.2.0
>>
>>
>> Demo: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Refnotes
>> Code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Refnotes
>>
>> *Release 1.7.0*
>>
>>
>>- *Aug 13th, 2021*
>>- [NEW] dedicated dropzone for importing bibtex entry as string
>>(paste from clipboard)
>>- [NEW] upgraded to TW 5.2.0 prerelease
>>
>>
>>
>> If you like it
>>
>>
>>- test and send feedback
>>- star it at GitHub: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Refnotes
>>
>>
>>
>> References
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/qgss_exy97g/m/L99utjKEBQAJ
>> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/HQHHkL37oUs/m/H1G-kOAwAQAJ
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>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
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[tw5] Re: Use Talk Tiddlywiki instead of Google Forum

[Mohammad Rahmani]

More Feature of Talk Tiddlywiki (TT)

1. TT lets filter messages by category
2. TT lets show the latest new messages
3. TT lets you use tags!



Best wishes
Mohammad


On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 3:03 PM Mohammad Rahmani 
wrote:

> *Why should we use Talk Tiddlywiki (https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/
> <https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/>) instead of Google Forum?*
>
>
>1. it mirrors all posts from Google Forum, so you will be notified
>what is going on Google Forum
>2. it allows previewing your post before sending
>3. it allows editing your post after it was sent! (this is very good
>feature I frequently need)
>4. it supports pinig other users
>5. it support code block
>6. it supports nice sharing features e.g share to Twitter
>
>
> Please complete this list with features I missed!
>
>
> Best wishes
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[tw5] Re: Use Talk Tiddlywiki instead of Google Forum

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On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 3:59 PM Mohammad Rahmani 
wrote:

> More features:
>
> 1. You can rate replies by thumb up/down! and give a heart to an answer
> 2. You can bookmark a reply!
> 3. Flag posts
>
> I have heard it is possible to TRANSCLUDE Google Forum posts, but I am not
> sure how!
>


I post this here as I want to share the asnswere with GG user!

Replied by Boris:
https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/t/transcluding-posts-in-discourse/164?u=mohammad

It’s as simple as pasting a link to any other topic or comment on a line by
> itself as I have done above.
> You can see a preview of the text, or all of it if short, and if longer
> you can click to expand the entire post inline.
> Various other links can be pasted and will expand — eg embedding Twitter
> posts.
> Quotes function in a similar way. You can highlight text on mobile or
> desktop and get a button labeled “Quote”. This will paste the contents into
> a reply with special formatting.
> Feel free to experiment in the comments here!


Unbelievable! Just copy the link to a post and it will transclude the whole
post!
I love it!



>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 3:03 PM Mohammad Rahmani <
> mohammad.rahm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> *Why should we use Talk Tiddlywiki (https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/
>> <https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/>) instead of Google Forum?*
>>
>>
>>1. it mirrors all posts from Google Forum, so you will be notified
>>what is going on Google Forum
>>2. it allows previewing your post before sending
>>3. it allows editing your post after it was sent! (this is very good
>>feature I frequently need)
>>4. it supports pinig other users
>>5. it support code block
>>6. it supports nice sharing features e.g share to Twitter
>>
>>
>> Please complete this list with features I missed!
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
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[tw5] Re: Use Talk Tiddlywiki instead of Google Forum

[Mohammad Rahmani]

More feature

Using Share button, you can directly notify other users

Best wishes
Mohammad


On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 3:03 PM Mohammad Rahmani 
wrote:

> *Why should we use Talk Tiddlywiki (https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/
> <https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/>) instead of Google Forum?*
>
>
>1. it mirrors all posts from Google Forum, so you will be notified
>what is going on Google Forum
>2. it allows previewing your post before sending
>3. it allows editing your post after it was sent! (this is very good
>feature I frequently need)
>4. it supports pinig other users
>5. it support code block
>6. it supports nice sharing features e.g share to Twitter
>
>
> Please complete this list with features I missed!
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
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[tw5] Re: Use Talk Tiddlywiki instead of Google Forum

[Mohammad Rahmani]

More features:

1. You can rate replies by thumb up/down! and give a heart to an answer
2. You can bookmark a reply!
3. Flag posts

I have heard it is possible to TRANSCLUDE Google Forum posts, but I am not
sure how!

Best wishes
Mohammad


On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 3:03 PM Mohammad Rahmani 
wrote:

> *Why should we use Talk Tiddlywiki (https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/
> <https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/>) instead of Google Forum?*
>
>
>1. it mirrors all posts from Google Forum, so you will be notified
>what is going on Google Forum
>2. it allows previewing your post before sending
>3. it allows editing your post after it was sent! (this is very good
>feature I frequently need)
>4. it supports pinig other users
>5. it support code block
>6. it supports nice sharing features e.g share to Twitter
>
>
> Please complete this list with features I missed!
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
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Re: [tw5] Re: Use Talk Tiddlywiki instead of Google Forum

[Mohammad Rahmani]

So this is a very important reason for users to try Discourse before GG
goes to a read only mode!

Best wishes
Mohammad


On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 3:07 PM Saq Imtiaz  wrote:

> Not a feature but a reason:
>
> The plan is to eventually make this group read only and move all
> discussions to Discourse. Actively using Discourse now, and not just for
> testing, will allow us to discover any pain points etc and make a more
> informed decision about whether we do want to make that permanent move to
> Discourse.
>
> On Thursday, August 19, 2021 at 12:34:08 PM UTC+2 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> *Why should we use Talk Tiddlywiki (https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/
>> ) instead of Google Forum?*
>>
>>
>>1. it mirrors all posts from Google Forum, so you will be notified
>>what is going on Google Forum
>>2. it allows previewing your post before sending
>>3. it allows editing your post after it was sent! (this is very good
>>feature I frequently need)
>>4. it supports pinig other users
>>5. it support code block
>>6. it supports nice sharing features e.g share to Twitter
>>
>>
>> Please complete this list with features I missed!
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
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[tw5] Use Talk Tiddlywiki instead of Google Forum

[Mohammad Rahmani]

*Why should we use Talk Tiddlywiki (https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/
) instead of Google Forum?*


   1. it mirrors all posts from Google Forum, so you will be notified what
   is going on Google Forum
   2. it allows previewing your post before sending
   3. it allows editing your post after it was sent! (this is very good
   feature I frequently need)
   4. it supports pinig other users
   5. it support code block
   6. it supports nice sharing features e.g share to Twitter


Please complete this list with features I missed!


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Re: [tw5] Should we prohibit leading and trailing whitespace in field names in 5.2.0?

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Hi Soren,

I absolutely support removing such spaces in the *field name*! Those spaces
are not displayed visually and are a source of error!
I even support trimming *field values *when they are saved!

I had encountered such cases many times and it took me a lot of time to
find the cause of error!

I believe having clear, simple to follow, semantic rules are much better to
have a lot of flexibility!
Normally users get confused, these cause errors for advanced users if they
do not care enough and are mostly time consuming!


Best wishes
Mohammad


On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 1:08 AM Soren Bjornstad 
wrote:

> I'll preface this by saying this probably belongs in a GitHub issue, and
> I'll be happy to create one over there if we want one. But wanted to get
> people's thoughts first, and ASAP because now is our last chance to do this
> without breaking backwards compatibility (once 5.2.0 is released, it would
> be pretty hard to change).
>
> Would it make sense to *prohibit leading and trailing whitespace in field
> names*, even though we now allow whitespace elsewhere? In the prerelease,
> it's not possible to add such fields within the GUI, but you can import
> tiddlers that contain such fields, or create them with an action or
> $edit-text widget. Fields with leading or trailing whitespace are almost
> impossible to distinguish within the GUI, since there is already whitespace
> before and after the name when it's displayed.
>
> In addition, if we continue to prohibit leading and trailing whitespace, I
> think we would be able to allow whitespace in between filter steps, which
> is a common annoyance for new users (but maybe I'm missing something there).
>
> I can't think of any situation in which someone would *want* leading or
> trailing whitespace in a field name, except maybe to integrate with another
> system which allowed it for some reason – as evidenced by the fact that the
> GUI doesn't even let you create such a field. At any rate, it seems much
> more confusing than helpful. Unix filenames have suffered enormously
>  from being
> overly permissive in what characters they allow, including leading and
> trailing whitespace; my instinct tells me this is likely to be a continuing
> irritation.
>
> On the minus side, someone would of course have to implement checks to
> prevent these fields from being added.
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Re: [tw5] Do you already use https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/ ?

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Also it should be mentioned that those who join the new forum will not miss
any post on Google Forum! as the new forum mirror GG forum!



Best wishes
Mohammad


On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 12:41 AM Saq Imtiaz  wrote:

> It would be great if we could get more community members to join the new
> forum at https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/ and use it for discussions, and
> provide feedback on how they find the user experience.
>
> Note that you can log in with a Google or Github account, or create a new
> user account specifically for the forum.
>
> Saq
>
> On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 at 11:30:28 AM UTC+2 Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
>> The new Discourse forum at https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/ is an experiment
>> at this stage. At the moment, there's two way sync with Google Groups, but
>> if people like the new system then we will migrate fully over to it.
>>
>> We'll be discussing it at the TiddlyWiki community call in a few hours
>> time:
>>
>>
>> https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/t/aug-17th-2021-community-call-core-savers-syncers-upload-plugin-discourse-forum/28
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy.
>>
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>> https://jermolene.com
>>
>> On 17 Aug 2021, at 09:23, Mohammad Rahmani  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Thanks for sharing BTC!
>> I would like to have one central place to be informed about TW!
>>
>> Is this the one I wished?
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 12:22 PM BurningTreeC 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi tiddlywikians,
>>>
>>> there's this new TiddlyWiki forum at https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/
>>>
>>> Is the google group still a thing for you or are you going to move to
>>> the new Forum?
>>>
>>> just out of interest :)
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>> BTC
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Re: [tw5] Speech to Text 1.0.6 alpha

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Thank you BTC!
I follow your progress with interest!


Best wishes
Mohammad


On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 1:13 PM BurningTreeC 
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> Hi @Mohammad, that's probably possible somehow
> Maybe in a future release we can implement this
> At the moment we want to get all bugs resolved if we find any
>
> best wishes,
> BTC
>
> Mohammad schrieb am Dienstag, 17. August 2021 um 10:34:11 UTC+2:
>
>> Hi BTC,
>>  This may seems stupid question:
>>
>> But is it also possible to have voice or audio tiddler?
>> I mean like Clubhouse, I can record a voice and save it as an AUDIO
>> tiddler, a brand new tiddler kust like image tiddler!
>> In this way I can issue commands to TW to start recording and then saving
>> an audio tiddler and the distributing it!
>>
>> I assume I can have some audio-book, audio-lecture or similar things!
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 12:54 PM BurningTreeC 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> There's an alpha build of the version 1.0.6 of the Speech to Text plugin
>>> available at https://speech-to-text.finnsoftware.net
>>>
>>> *What's new?*
>>> You can now insert the spoken text in any input or textarea using the
>>> command *Ok Wiki insert*
>>>
>>> To use this functionality it's probably best to set the recording to
>>> "continuous" in the $:/ControlPanel -> Speech to Text tab
>>>
>>> We'd be very interested how you like the new functionality and we're
>>> very open for criticism, ideas and bug-reports
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>> BTC
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Re: [tw5] Speech to Text 1.0.6 alpha

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Hi BTC,
 This may seems stupid question:

But is it also possible to have voice or audio tiddler?
I mean like Clubhouse, I can record a voice and save it as an AUDIO
tiddler, a brand new tiddler kust like image tiddler!
In this way I can issue commands to TW to start recording and then saving
an audio tiddler and the distributing it!

I assume I can have some audio-book, audio-lecture or similar things!

Best wishes
Mohammad


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> Hello all,
>
> There's an alpha build of the version 1.0.6 of the Speech to Text plugin
> available at https://speech-to-text.finnsoftware.net
>
> *What's new?*
> You can now insert the spoken text in any input or textarea using the
> command *Ok Wiki insert*
>
> To use this functionality it's probably best to set the recording to
> "continuous" in the $:/ControlPanel -> Speech to Text tab
>
> We'd be very interested how you like the new functionality and we're very
> open for criticism, ideas and bug-reports
>
> Best wishes,
> BTC
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Re: [tw5] Do you already use https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/ ?

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Thanks for sharing BTC!
I would like to have one central place to be informed about TW!

Is this the one I wished?



Best wishes
Mohammad


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> Hi tiddlywikians,
>
> there's this new TiddlyWiki forum at https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/
>
> Is the google group still a thing for you or are you going to move to the
> new Forum?
>
> just out of interest :)
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[tw5] Build a WooCommerce Dashboard with SMS using Twilio, Pipedream and TiddlyWiki

[Mohammad Rahmani]

https://twitter.com/philwonski/status/1427316920441843717?s=20

Build a WooCommerce Dashboard with SMS using Twilio, Pipedream and
TiddlyWiki

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Re: [tw5] Just a goofy thought: a way to get javascript into a Tiddler

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Charlie

I assume this is a very clever solution!
Can we say this is a  backdoor to inject JS into TW.
Of course I am not familiar with iframe features in TW!


Best wishes
Mohammad


On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 6:57 AM Charlie Veniot  wrote:

> I don't know what made me think of this.
>
> In case this has not been brought up in a while (I doubt this is new to
> seasoned folk) ...
>
> I was thinking: could I use an iFrame to include simple javascript in a
> tiddler without getting into macros or plugins that enable javascript.
>
> And, if I could, then could I set things up so that the iFrame is showing
> javascript dynamically created by the tiddler ?
>
> So here is a way to show a digital clock in TiddlyWiki, for
> non-programmers who just want to copy and paste javascript code from the
> web without figuring out how the javascript code works :
>
> Put this in a brand new tiddler:
>
> *<$vars* *vSrcDoc*={{{ [[
> let clockEl = document.getElementById("clockDiv");function
> getClockTime() {  let date = new Date();  let hr =
> date.getHours();  let min = date.getMinutes();  let sec =
> date.getSeconds();  hr = ("0" + hr).slice(-2);  min = ("0" +
> min).slice(-2);  sec = ("0" + sec).slice(-2);  clockEl.innerHTML =
> `${hr}:${min}:${sec}`;}setInterval(getClockTime, 1000);
> ]] }}}*>*
> *>* style="border:none;width:100%;"*>*
> **
>
> Sneaky sneaky, has me wondering what kind of other fun things could be
> done...
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Re: [tw5] Re: Better indexes through semantic modeling

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Hi Springer!
The conditional summary needs a summary field! This is what Soren explained
and is a good approach!

I mean Extracting Introduction From Tiddlers:
https://tobibeer.github.io/tb5/#Extracting%20Introductions%20From%20Tiddlers
It lets you use the same standard searchbox!


Best wishes
Mohammad


On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 8:31 PM springer  wrote:

> Mohammad, By "Tobias Beer's method" do you mean the one here:
> https://tobibeer.github.io/tb5/#Conditional%20Summary
> ?
>
> That's quite similar to what I use. In fact, I like to create visually
> distinctive ViewTemplate sections for various fields, iff the fields are
> populated. Since I often use tiddlers to hold excerpts, and want to put
> nothing in the text there field apart from the excerpt itself, a
> conditional view template for the "notes" field --  displaying in a
> contrasting box below the text content if and only if I've added notes --
> was the first such field-based auto-include that I found indispensable.
>
> -Springer
>
> On Friday, August 13, 2021 at 7:43:09 AM UTC-4 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Springer
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 4:01 AM springer  wrote:
>>
>>> Soren,
>>>
>>> In your "better indexes" essay you write:
>>> If we do have the full text included in each locus, we may want to write
>>> a summary anyway and store it along with the full text: this way, we’ll be
>>> able to create an outline later and more easily see what parts of the
>>> document we’re hopping between.
>>>
>>> And it reminds me how certain enlightenment texts were printed with a
>>> running outer-margin summary distilling key points (and of course the
>>> cognitive work of spelling out those side-notes is considerable!). For
>>> example, see the side-notes starting at p 49 (pdf-pagination) on this Adam
>>> Smith manuscript:
>>> https://oll-resources.s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/oll3/store/titles/237/0206-01_Bk.pdf
>>>
>>> For some tiddlywiki projects, I've started to employ a super-condensed
>>> summary field (call it, say, the tldr field) that can be displayed for
>>> certain purposes. Unlike the main body of the tiddler, the tldr is
>>> text-only, maximum of a single sentence. (And if I can't summarize the
>>> tiddler in one sentence, then it needs to be more than one tiddler. ;) ) Of
>>> course, the fact that tw's standard search interface doesn't peek beyond
>>> title and text field means this solution requires some building-around to
>>> be useful.
>>>
>>
>> I would recommend Tobias Beer method for creating a description, Summary!
>> Also in kookma utility there is a find macro (it has been published
>> separately, see find macro in kookma GitHub page) which can simply extract
>> the summary/description part and you can still use the standard
>> searchbox by Tiddlywiki
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Overall, I'm enjoying your essay and its questions!
>>>
>>> -Springer
>>> On Monday, August 9, 2021 at 9:17:00 PM UTC-4 Soren Bjornstad wrote:
>>>
 Some of you all might be interested in this new post on my blog:


 https://controlaltbackspace.org/notes/better-indexes-through-semantic-modeling/

 It's a proposal for a system for indexing large documents based on a
 hypertext graph, including a discussion of a possible TiddlyWiki prototype.
 Warning: 6,000+ words.

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Re: [tw5] Better indexes through semantic modeling

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Hi Soren, Thank you for clarification!
For summary:
I have seen books, especially textbooks which have a paragraph (usually in
a colored box or with slightly different font) in the first page of each
chapter explaining what is that chapter, and what we learn in that chapter!

So, I thought the same for tiddler! but this is meaningful if we have a
long text in that chapter!

By the way, having fields for summary has its own pros and cons!

Thank you

Best wishes
Mohammad


On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 5:15 PM Soren Bjornstad 
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> On Friday, August 13, 2021 at 3:08:36 AM UTC-5 Mohammad wrote:
>
>>  What do you think if we use a small section in a tiddler to store
>> tiddler summary or description in the text field (tiddler body)?
>>
>
> I guess I have too much of a programmer mind to like manually yanking
> things out of somewhere instead of just putting it in a separate field. But
> it's great to have the option.
>
>
>> 3. no need to duplicate text
>>
>
> Maybe I'm being dense, but how would this help us avoid duplicating text?
> Couldn't we just as easily transclude the separate field into the text
> field if the summary sentence made sense as part of that text? I do that
> all the time.
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Re: [tw5] Re: Better indexes through semantic modeling

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Springer


On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 4:01 AM springer  wrote:

> Soren,
>
> In your "better indexes" essay you write:
> If we do have the full text included in each locus, we may want to write a
> summary anyway and store it along with the full text: this way, we’ll be
> able to create an outline later and more easily see what parts of the
> document we’re hopping between.
>
> And it reminds me how certain enlightenment texts were printed with a
> running outer-margin summary distilling key points (and of course the
> cognitive work of spelling out those side-notes is considerable!). For
> example, see the side-notes starting at p 49 (pdf-pagination) on this Adam
> Smith manuscript:
> https://oll-resources.s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/oll3/store/titles/237/0206-01_Bk.pdf
>
> For some tiddlywiki projects, I've started to employ a super-condensed
> summary field (call it, say, the tldr field) that can be displayed for
> certain purposes. Unlike the main body of the tiddler, the tldr is
> text-only, maximum of a single sentence. (And if I can't summarize the
> tiddler in one sentence, then it needs to be more than one tiddler. ;) ) Of
> course, the fact that tw's standard search interface doesn't peek beyond
> title and text field means this solution requires some building-around to
> be useful.
>

I would recommend Tobias Beer method for creating a description, Summary!
Also in kookma utility there is a find macro (it has been published
separately, see find macro in kookma GitHub page) which can simply extract
the summary/description part and you can still use the standard
searchbox by Tiddlywiki




>
> Overall, I'm enjoying your essay and its questions!
>
> -Springer
> On Monday, August 9, 2021 at 9:17:00 PM UTC-4 Soren Bjornstad wrote:
>
>> Some of you all might be interested in this new post on my blog:
>>
>>
>> https://controlaltbackspace.org/notes/better-indexes-through-semantic-modeling/
>>
>> It's a proposal for a system for indexing large documents based on a
>> hypertext graph, including a discussion of a possible TiddlyWiki prototype.
>> Warning: 6,000+ words.
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Re: [tw5] Better indexes through semantic modeling

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Soren
Please check the filters in given examples, there are some other cases of
imbalanced square brackets!


Questions

   1. Why is there not anything about tags? Entries replicate tags in
   Tiddlywiki (but not necessarily)
   2. Some concepts with given scripts are confusing like Nearby lists

Example

We can similarly replicate Tabularium’s Nearby list on loci. On the locus
view template, we simply list all of the index entries that link to the
current locus:

<>



So this means we have a view template for locus, means command is only
works with tiddler tagged Locus
Then [all[current]backlinks[]tag[Entry]] will list all entries (e.g tag
with Entry refer (has link) to current Locus!
This means, an Entry shall have a link to a Locus?! Means in a tag tiddler
we refer to a Locus tiddler! This is confusing!


By the way, I enjoyed your writeup and I think it needs some working
example to be better understood!



Best wishes
Mohammad


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> Some of you all might be interested in this new post on my blog:
>
>
> https://controlaltbackspace.org/notes/better-indexes-through-semantic-modeling/
>
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> hypertext graph, including a discussion of a possible TiddlyWiki prototype.
> Warning: 6,000+ words.
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Re: [tw5] Better indexes through semantic modeling

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Some minor comments

1. error in filter


<$list filter="[tag[Locus]sortan[]*]*">
<$link/> (difficulty level: {{!!difficulty}}) – {{!!text}}





Best wishes
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>
>
> https://controlaltbackspace.org/notes/better-indexes-through-semantic-modeling/
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Re: [tw5] Better indexes through semantic modeling

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Soren,
 What do you think if we use a small section in a tiddler to store tiddler
summary or description in the text field (tiddler body)?

Pros:
1. we can find it using standard search
2. no need to create extra field
3. no need to duplicate text

Cons:
1. need a script to extract description/summary (note the tool is
available see, Tobias Beers, kookma, Thomas Elmiger, ...)



Best wishes
Mohammad


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[tw5] Tiddlywiki and Indexes: Keyword Index and Author Index

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Referring to Soren recent post

on using indexing in Tiddlywiki, such a system has been used efficiently in
TW-Scripts
There were two versions:

1. OLD VERSION: Using locator plugin (from bimlas) and later field
search plugin (from PMario)
2. CURRENT VERSION: Using a listed index of keywords and authors with
searchbox (the current implementation)

To give a try the current indexing tools


   1. go to  https://kookma.github.io/TW-Scripts/
   2. open the sidebar Explorer
   3. click responders (author index), or keywords (keyword index) or
   solution (solution index)


For example if you open the Explorer/keywords: You can explore in list of
keywords like book index or search among them

How it works:
It actually uses Solution plugin to create tiddlers with keyword,

One penalty is if you have a lot of keywords, then rendering takes time and
you may feel TW is a bit slow!

To learn more about TW-Scripts see short tutorial here:
https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/IxeMwhfASyQ/m/F8yovvgwBgAJ


Best wishes
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Re: [tw5] Re: Shiraz Plugin: New Release 2.4.0

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Hi Walt,

Thank you for your kind words and great to hear you like Shiraz!

The only dependency on TW 5.2.0 is the quick table (e.g. table-csv) so you
can use all features with 5.1.23 except quick table.
If you use table-csv  in 5.1.23, it will create the table, but the sort
function will not work as expected.
There is no risk of data loss.

By the way, as TW always recommends, take a full backup before using new
tools.

Best wishes
Mohammad


On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 12:50 PM ludwa6  wrote:

> Congrats @Mohammad on this significant upgrade to a super-powerful
> plugin!  The documentation is exemplary (already was, in fact; now it's
> beyond compare), and the functionality it brings to styling of tiddlers
> -especially tables, now so easy to manipulate- is something i'm going to be
> using heavily for sure.
>
> Before i upgrade tho, i have to ask: Is Shiraz 2.4.0 fully compatible with
> TW 5.1.23, notwithstanding the dependency of "Quick tables" on TW 5.2.0?
> If we invoke some such dependent feature by accident, does it "fail
> gracefully," or is there a risk of data loss?
>
> (would also like to know -Quick tables feature being SO  very compelling-
> when TW 5.2 beta might be available to us non-dev users... But if you can't
> speak to that one, i understand :-)
>
> /walt
> On Thursday, August 12, 2021 at 8:43:21 AM UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Shiraz plugin has just got a new update!
>>
>> The major change is the addition of new *QUICK TABLE* (e.g.
>> automatically create table from csv data)
>> For video tutorial see:
>> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/RUyQNJ_wpCc/m/odOFkGW2BAAJ
>>
>> A comprehensive documentation was also added, see Shiraz Tutorial / Quick
>> Table on https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz
>>
>> Shiraz is a small framework of stylesheets, templates and macros to
>> create stylish contents in Tiddlywiki. Shiraz has customized elements like
>> alerts, cards, panels, images, *static tables*, *dynamic tables*, *quick
>> tables,* badges, texts, etc. Shiraz uses some modified CSS classes from
>> Bootstrap 4.3.1.
>>
>> Code and demo
>>
>>- Demo: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz
>>- Code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>>
>> *It is highly recommended to backup your data before trying any new
>> plugin! Do it before installing shiraz*.
>> *Quick tables in Shiraz depends on new features in Tiddlywiki 5.2.0
>> (https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease )*
>>
>> If you like it star it at https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
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[tw5] Shiraz Plugin: New Release 2.4.0

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Shiraz plugin has just got a new update!

The major change is the addition of new *QUICK TABLE* (e.g. automatically
create table from csv data)
For video tutorial see:
https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/RUyQNJ_wpCc/m/odOFkGW2BAAJ

A comprehensive documentation was also added, see Shiraz Tutorial / Quick
Table on https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz

Shiraz is a small framework of stylesheets, templates and macros to create
stylish contents in Tiddlywiki. Shiraz has customized elements like alerts,
cards, panels, images, *static tables*, *dynamic tables*, *quick tables,*
badges, texts, etc. Shiraz uses some modified CSS classes from Bootstrap
4.3.1.

Code and demo

   - Demo: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz
   - Code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz

*It is highly recommended to backup your data before trying any new plugin!
Do it before installing shiraz*.
*Quick tables in Shiraz depends on new features in Tiddlywiki 5.2.0
(https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease )*

If you like it star it at https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz


Best wishes
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Re: [tw5] Re: Shiraz Plugin: Lets use Tiddlywiki with More Ease

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Hi Springer

On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 8:37 PM springer  wrote:

> Mohammad, I am so excited all of these csv-based table features!
> If we include a title field, can we easily get tiddlers excised out from
> such a pasted table?
>

Do you mean to feed a tiddler by giving its title as input and the
table-csv creating a table?  Answer: YES
Do you mean to create a new tiddler based on the input data block (copy
pasted data from an external spreadsheet like Excel)? Answer is NO



> -Springer
>
> On Tuesday, August 10, 2021 at 8:38:07 AM UTC-4 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Thank you all!
>>
>> See some screencasts of this new feature. I call it Quick Table.
>>
>>
>> *Simple Example*
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 8, 2021 at 9:07 PM Mohammad Rahmani 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>- Do you like to convert your old static/plain table in a tiddler
>>>into a sortable table just by calling a macro  (no edit, no hassles,  
>>> ...)
>>>- Do you like to drop a CSV text file into tiddlywiki and in a
>>>second generate a dynamic table?
>>>- Do you like to copy paste part of a worksheet from Excel, Google
>>>Sheet, Libre Office Calc, ... into a tiddler and TW generate a nice
>>>sortable table for you?
>>>- Do you like to create tables from plain texts just by calling a
>>>simple macro?
>>>- Do you like to create task lists from plain text (just like
>>>GitHub)?
>>>- Write you tasks/todo as you write on a piece of paper and then get
>>>a task list! Do you like this?
>>>
>>>
>>> *Sit back, relax, and let Shiraz do all the work  ;-)*
>>>
>>>
>>> Stay tuned, Shiraz on *Tiddlywiki 5.0.2* is coming!
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> Mohammad
>>>
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Re: [tw5] Presenting my plugin library

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Hi Andrew,

 Welcome back!
 Thank you for all those great plugins and tools!


Best wishes
Mohammad


On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 10:08 AM Andrew Harrison <
andrew.j.harri...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I have migrated from tiddlyspot to github. Check out my updated page of
> plugins at https://t5a.github.io and let me know what you think.
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Re: [tw5] Re: Shiraz Plugin: Lets use Tiddlywiki with More Ease

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Hi Walt,
 I will upload an experimental version to give you a try by yourself.

But the mechanism is as below:

   1. read a plain text (here the one between )
   2. parse it into lines
   3. parse a line into columns (using delimiter)
   4. display it using your format of choice   [this is what you asked!]
   this part lets us format a column. this is the same as dynamic table
   template

So regarding your question: we need to have data as plain text inside a
tiddler to read and parse! TiddlyGoo is a sophisticated plugin!
Mark S and Mat can explain how this is possible, but I do not know if you
can directly use the quick table or not!


Best wishes
Mohammad


On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 3:23 PM ludwa6  wrote:

> Once again @Mohammad: you have kinda blown my mind with this demonstration
> of possibilities.  Before i get too excited tho, i want to make sure i
> understand:
>
> Regarding "Quick-Table-Shiraz-Colum formatting and table class-T04.mp4"
> demo, i am wondering: would it be possible to apply such formatting to
> tabular data imported from a Google Sheet (via the amazing TiddlyGoo
> plugin <https://tiddlygoo.tiddlyhost.com/>) at time of data import/
> tiddler creation?
>
> As you may know, TiddlyGoo enables creating a set of tiddlers based on
> rows of data imported from a gSheet -and if those tiddlers could be
> formatted on-the-fly with a layout such as you have demonstrated here (by
> inserting that <> in a certain column of the spreadsheet, i
> guess?), then that would be the perfect complement to this data import
> process.
>
> If this is indeed possible Mohammad, prey tell how, and i shall be ever in
> your debt!
>
> /walt
>
>
> On Tuesday, August 10, 2021 at 2:47:52 PM UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Create a quick table from complex text! Apply formatting like text,
>> transclude and code.
>>
>> See how you can simply create a wikitext formatting table on the fly!
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 8, 2021 at 9:07 PM Mohammad Rahmani 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>- Do you like to convert your old static/plain table in a tiddler
>>>into a sortable table just by calling a macro  (no edit, no hassles,  
>>> ...)
>>>- Do you like to drop a CSV text file into tiddlywiki and in a
>>>second generate a dynamic table?
>>>- Do you like to copy paste part of a worksheet from Excel, Google
>>>Sheet, Libre Office Calc, ... into a tiddler and TW generate a nice
>>>sortable table for you?
>>>- Do you like to create tables from plain texts just by calling a
>>>simple macro?
>>>- Do you like to create task lists from plain text (just like
>>>GitHub)?
>>>- Write you tasks/todo as you write on a piece of paper and then get
>>>a task list! Do you like this?
>>>
>>>
>>> *Sit back, relax, and let Shiraz do all the work  ;-)*
>>>
>>>
>>> Stay tuned, Shiraz on *Tiddlywiki 5.0.2* is coming!
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> Mohammad
>>>
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Re: [tw5] Better indexes through semantic modeling

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Hi Soren,
Very interesting! Specially the Vision part which gives solutions using
Tiddlywiki.

Best wishes
Mohammad


On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 5:47 AM Soren Bjornstad 
wrote:

> Some of you all might be interested in this new post on my blog:
>
>
> https://controlaltbackspace.org/notes/better-indexes-through-semantic-modeling/
>
> It's a proposal for a system for indexing large documents based on a
> hypertext graph, including a discussion of a possible TiddlyWiki prototype.
> Warning: 6,000+ words.
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[tw5] Shiraz Plugin: Lets use Tiddlywiki with More Ease

[Mohammad Rahmani]

   - Do you like to convert your old static/plain table in a tiddler into a
   sortable table just by calling a macro  (no edit, no hassles,  ...)
   - Do you like to drop a CSV text file into tiddlywiki and in a second
   generate a dynamic table?
   - Do you like to copy paste part of a worksheet from Excel, Google
   Sheet, Libre Office Calc, ... into a tiddler and TW generate a nice
   sortable table for you?
   - Do you like to create tables from plain texts just by calling a simple
   macro?
   - Do you like to create task lists from plain text (just like GitHub)?
   - Write you tasks/todo as you write on a piece of paper and then get a
   task list! Do you like this?


*Sit back, relax, and let Shiraz do all the work  ;-)*


Stay tuned, Shiraz on *Tiddlywiki 5.0.2* is coming!

Best wishes
Mohammad

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Re: [tw5] Re: Shiraz 2.3.1 new update supports Node Explorer (bidirectional links)

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Walt,
 No there is nothing else! I recommend checking this on the new empty
Tiddlywiki to see if the issue is related to Shiraz or your Tiddlywiki!
 My test shows Shiraz works as expected!

Best wishes
Mohammad


On Sun, Aug 8, 2021 at 12:48 AM ludwa6  wrote:

> The "Switch Colours" button was already activated, @Mohammad... So i
> cycled it off and on again, but still it has made no difference.
> Is there anything else i might try to activate the feature?
>
> /walt
>
> On Saturday, August 7, 2021 at 7:47:59 PM UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Hi Walt,
>>  Make sure that: The Switch Colours button in the sidebar/Tools is
>> selected!
>>
>>
>> (side note: I should use the same caption for the same button in
>> different location! ;-) )
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 7, 2021 at 5:43 PM ludwa6  wrote:
>>
>>> Having just upgraded from v2.2.2 of Shiraz to latest 2.3.4 (/note to
>>> self: keep more abreast of news from @Mohammad!), i am keen to enjoy all
>>> the benefits... But, following the excellent tutorial
>>> , it seems that
>>> the last option in Shiraz configuration control panel- "*Show switch
>>> palette on page controls*" -is missing from my installation.  Have
>>> saved and restarted my TW  instance (a single-file version) several times,
>>> but it makes no difference.   Can anyone can suggest a fix or plausible
>>> theory of cause?
>>>
>>> /walt
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, August 4, 2021 at 6:17:14 PM UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:
>>>
 Yes, it is possible!

 hack the $:/plugins/kookma/viewtemplates/node-explorer
 and search the fields containing the links (use regexp)! Note that
 right now the dynamic table cannot display a correct type for links in the
 fields, but you may hide the type!

 I myself like simplicity, so for me the text field is enough to be
 scanned!


 Best wishes
 Mohammad


 On Wed, Aug 4, 2021 at 9:24 PM Paul Hampshire 
 wrote:

> Is there a way to have Node Explorer include links that are in custom
> fields in tiddlers?
>
> On Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 12:02:11 PM UTC-4 si wrote:
>
>> >>> Yes! Thereis a solution by  pubmania   here: https://git
>> hub.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz/issues/8#issuecomment-652531084
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> On Thursday, 20 May 2021 at 04:36:11 UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 1:25 AM si  wrote:
>>>
 Great stuff, thanks Mohammad. I will have to spend some time
 playing with column templates to see how they work.

 Unrelated question: Is there a way to change the orientation of
 dynamic table? I.e. list the fields as rows instead of columns.

>>> Yes! Thereis a solution by  pubmania   here: https://git
>>> hub.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz/issues/8#issuecomment-652531084
>>>
>>> [image: image.png]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
 On Wednesday, 19 May 2021 at 19:43:32 UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:

> A Node Explorer is a dynamic table that appears at the bottom of
> the current tiddler, displaying links, backlinks and tagging of
> that tiddler. This is based on the Zettelkasten method
> recently implemented in
> Tiddlywiki by Soren Bjornstad (see
> https://zettelkasten.sorenbjornstad.com/)
>
> The new update of Shiraz 2.3.1 adds a new template to its
> collection of dynamic table templates, let's use it for creating a 
> Node
> Explorer to show links/backlinks/tagging of current tiddler.
> For details see
> https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#Tutorial%20Advanced%20Node%20Explorer
> You can also use details/slider macro in Shiraz to hide the Node
> Explorer on demand!
>
>
> *Code and demo*
>
>
>- Demo: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz
>- Code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>
>
> It is highly recommended to backup your data before trying any new
> plugin! Do it before installing shiraz.
>
>
> If you like Shiraz star it at  https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>
>
> [image: img_174_chrome.png]
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Re: [tw5] Re: Shiraz 2.3.1 new update supports Node Explorer (bidirectional links)

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Hi Walt,
 Make sure that: The Switch Colours button in the sidebar/Tools is selected!


(side note: I should use the same caption for the same button in different
location! ;-) )


Best wishes
Mohammad


On Sat, Aug 7, 2021 at 5:43 PM ludwa6  wrote:

> Having just upgraded from v2.2.2 of Shiraz to latest 2.3.4 (/note to self:
> keep more abreast of news from @Mohammad!), i am keen to enjoy all the
> benefits... But, following the excellent tutorial
> , it seems that
> the last option in Shiraz configuration control panel- "*Show switch
> palette on page controls*" -is missing from my installation.  Have saved
> and restarted my TW  instance (a single-file version) several times, but it
> makes no difference.   Can anyone can suggest a fix or plausible theory of
> cause?
>
> /walt
>
> On Wednesday, August 4, 2021 at 6:17:14 PM UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Yes, it is possible!
>>
>> hack the $:/plugins/kookma/viewtemplates/node-explorer
>> and search the fields containing the links (use regexp)! Note that right
>> now the dynamic table cannot display a correct type for links in the
>> fields, but you may hide the type!
>>
>> I myself like simplicity, so for me the text field is enough to be
>> scanned!
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 4, 2021 at 9:24 PM Paul Hampshire  wrote:
>>
>>> Is there a way to have Node Explorer include links that are in custom
>>> fields in tiddlers?
>>>
>>> On Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 12:02:11 PM UTC-4 si wrote:
>>>
 >>> Yes! Thereis a solution by  pubmania   here: https://git
 hub.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz/issues/8#issuecomment-652531084

 Thanks!

 On Thursday, 20 May 2021 at 04:36:11 UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:

> On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 1:25 AM si  wrote:
>
>> Great stuff, thanks Mohammad. I will have to spend some time playing
>> with column templates to see how they work.
>>
>> Unrelated question: Is there a way to change the orientation of
>> dynamic table? I.e. list the fields as rows instead of columns.
>>
> Yes! Thereis a solution by  pubmania   here: https://git
> hub.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz/issues/8#issuecomment-652531084
>
> [image: image.png]
>
>
>
>
>> On Wednesday, 19 May 2021 at 19:43:32 UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:
>>
>>> A Node Explorer is a dynamic table that appears at the bottom of
>>> the current tiddler, displaying links, backlinks and tagging of
>>> that tiddler. This is based on the Zettelkasten method
>>> recently implemented in
>>> Tiddlywiki by Soren Bjornstad (see
>>> https://zettelkasten.sorenbjornstad.com/)
>>>
>>> The new update of Shiraz 2.3.1 adds a new template to its collection
>>> of dynamic table templates, let's use it for creating a Node Explorer to
>>> show links/backlinks/tagging of current tiddler.
>>> For details see
>>> https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#Tutorial%20Advanced%20Node%20Explorer
>>> You can also use details/slider macro in Shiraz to hide the Node
>>> Explorer on demand!
>>>
>>>
>>> *Code and demo*
>>>
>>>
>>>- Demo: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz
>>>- Code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>>>
>>>
>>> It is highly recommended to backup your data before trying any new
>>> plugin! Do it before installing shiraz.
>>>
>>>
>>> If you like Shiraz star it at  https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: img_174_chrome.png]
>>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: filter operator: sort by last part of title

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Saq,
Would you please have a look at
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/discussions/5941

It seems I cannot send the *reverse* flag as a variable for sort filter run
prefix!

Best wishes
Mohammad


On Fri, Aug 6, 2021 at 8:32 PM Saq Imtiaz  wrote:

>
> See this thread
>
> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/ZXunGNpbG4c/m/ZIzuFq5iAQAJ
> On Friday, August 6, 2021 at 5:54:09 PM UTC+2 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> 1. goto https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/
>> 2. create three tiddlers with below titles all tagged with xtx as below
>> one: first
>> two: second
>> three: third
>>
>> 3. In another tiddler enter the below code
>>
>> \define myfilter() [split[:]last[]trim[]!sort[]]
>> <$list filter="[tag[xtx]filter]">
>>
>> 
>>
>> 4. The expected result is
>>
>> three: third
>> two: second
>> one: first
>>
>> BUT it does not work! What is wrong here?
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
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Re: [tw5] Re: filter operator: sort by last part of title

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Hi Saq,
 It is funny! With no doubt I have Alzheimer's! ;-)


Best wishes
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On Fri, Aug 6, 2021 at 8:32 PM Saq Imtiaz  wrote:

>
> See this thread
>
> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/ZXunGNpbG4c/m/ZIzuFq5iAQAJ
> On Friday, August 6, 2021 at 5:54:09 PM UTC+2 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> 1. goto https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/
>> 2. create three tiddlers with below titles all tagged with xtx as below
>> one: first
>> two: second
>> three: third
>>
>> 3. In another tiddler enter the below code
>>
>> \define myfilter() [split[:]last[]trim[]!sort[]]
>> <$list filter="[tag[xtx]filter]">
>>
>> 
>>
>> 4. The expected result is
>>
>> three: third
>> two: second
>> one: first
>>
>> BUT it does not work! What is wrong here?
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
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[tw5] filter operator: sort by last part of title

[Mohammad Rahmani]

1. goto https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/
2. create three tiddlers with below titles all tagged with xtx as below
one: first
two: second
three: third

3. In another tiddler enter the below code

\define myfilter() [split[:]last[]trim[]!sort[]]
<$list filter="[tag[xtx]filter]">



4. The expected result is

three: third
two: second
one: first

BUT it does not work! What is wrong here?


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Re: [tw5] Macro editor for KaTeX plugin

[Mohammad Rahmani]

@8d1h

Many thanks! I like this improvement!
One question: how do you compare the KaTex macro with the TW macro?
You may aware that you can call TW macro like below

\define dd(a, b)
$$
 \frac{$a$}{$b$}
$$
\end


<>



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On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 5:16 PM '8d1h' via TiddlyWiki <
tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I made a custom macro editor for the official KaTeX plugin, so one can
> create macros like \bZ -> \mathbf{Z} or \dd#1#2 -> \frac{d#1}{d#2} which
> are then available globally, without needing to edit the source code of the
> plugin. It can be found under the configuration tab of the plugin.
>
> Here is a screenshot and a demo html file if you want to try it. I hope
> it'd be useful for some :) Suggestions and comments are very welcome! I
> already submitted a pull request
>  on GitHub.
> [image: katex.png]
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Re: [tw5] Re: Macro editor for KaTeX plugin

[Mohammad Rahmani]

@Mario,

 Is it possible to update KaTex to 0.13.13! I am not sure if this PR is
affected by the update or not! but TW KaTex needs to be updated from 0.12
(Jul 2020) to 0.13.13 (Jun 2021)



Best wishes
Mohammad


On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 8:26 PM PMario  wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> I want to add, that this is _NOT PRODUCTION READY_ at the moment. The PR
> at github looks good, but there is still some discussion going on.
>
> So it will be nice to get your feedback here or at github!
>
> -mario
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Re: [tw5] Re: Shiraz 2.3.1 new update supports Node Explorer (bidirectional links)

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Yes, it is possible!

hack the $:/plugins/kookma/viewtemplates/node-explorer
and search the fields containing the links (use regexp)! Note that right
now the dynamic table cannot display a correct type for links in the
fields, but you may hide the type!

I myself like simplicity, so for me the text field is enough to be scanned!


Best wishes
Mohammad


On Wed, Aug 4, 2021 at 9:24 PM Paul Hampshire  wrote:

> Is there a way to have Node Explorer include links that are in custom
> fields in tiddlers?
>
> On Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 12:02:11 PM UTC-4 si wrote:
>
>> >>> Yes! Thereis a solution by  pubmania   here: https://git
>> hub.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz/issues/8#issuecomment-652531084
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> On Thursday, 20 May 2021 at 04:36:11 UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 1:25 AM si  wrote:
>>>
 Great stuff, thanks Mohammad. I will have to spend some time playing
 with column templates to see how they work.

 Unrelated question: Is there a way to change the orientation of dynamic
 table? I.e. list the fields as rows instead of columns.

>>> Yes! Thereis a solution by  pubmania   here: https://git
>>> hub.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz/issues/8#issuecomment-652531084
>>>
>>> [image: image.png]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
 On Wednesday, 19 May 2021 at 19:43:32 UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:

> A Node Explorer is a dynamic table that appears at the bottom of the
> current tiddler, displaying links, backlinks and tagging of that
> tiddler. This is based on the Zettelkasten method
> recently implemented in
> Tiddlywiki by Soren Bjornstad (see
> https://zettelkasten.sorenbjornstad.com/)
>
> The new update of Shiraz 2.3.1 adds a new template to its collection
> of dynamic table templates, let's use it for creating a Node Explorer to
> show links/backlinks/tagging of current tiddler.
> For details see
> https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#Tutorial%20Advanced%20Node%20Explorer
> You can also use details/slider macro in Shiraz to hide the Node
> Explorer on demand!
>
>
> *Code and demo*
>
>
>- Demo: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz
>- Code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>
>
> It is highly recommended to backup your data before trying any new
> plugin! Do it before installing shiraz.
>
>
> If you like Shiraz star it at  https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz
>
>
> [image: img_174_chrome.png]
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Re: [tw5] Voting for the v5.2.0 banner artwork

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Congratulations Frank!


Best wishes
Mohammad


On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 3:06 PM Jeremy Ruston 
wrote:

> I’d like to invite everyone to vote for the banner artwork for the
> upcoming v5.2.0 release. (The banner is shown in the splash screen for
> https://tiddlywiki.com/, and within the HelloThere tiddler).
>
> To take part, please visit this link and choose which one of the 13
> entries you think would look best:
>
> https://forms.gle/CWhnVMwumq4pNzoJ6
>
> No sign in is required.
>
> The thread where we discussed and gathered the entries is here:
>
> https://forms.gle/CWhnVMwumq4pNzoJ6
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Jeremy.
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Re: [tw5] Re: list tiddlers title with a delimiter (a character between items) resulting from a complex filter

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Eric,
Thank you very much for clarification!


Best wishes
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On Tue, Aug 3, 2021 at 6:45 PM Eric Shulman  wrote:

> On Tuesday, August 3, 2021 at 6:29:11 AM UTC-7 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> <$set name="out" filter="[tag[HelloThere]] [tag[About]] [tag[Platforms]]">
>>> <$list filter="[enlistbutlast[]]"><$link/> | 
>>> <$list filter="[enlistlast[]]   "><$link/>   
>>> 
>>>
>>
>> Is it possible to use *subfilter* instead of *enlist* here? Which is
>> recommended?
>>
>> <$set name="out" filter="[tag[HelloThere]] [tag[About]] [tag[Platforms]]">
>> <$list filter="[subfilterbutlast[]]"><$link/> | 
>> <$list filter="[subfilterlast[]]   "><$link/>   
>> 
>>
>
> This is almost certainly less efficient than using enlist, as it
> would still be evaluating the original filter expression (to $set the value
> of "out"), but then subfilter does another two lookups into the
> tiddler store, even if all the terms of the filter are literal tiddler
> names, while enlist is simply copying the already captured literal
> tiddler names directly into the current expression.
>
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Re: [tw5] Re: list tiddlers title with a delimiter (a character between items) resulting from a complex filter

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Very nice solution Eric!

One question:



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On Mon, Aug 2, 2021 at 6:02 AM Eric Shulman  wrote:

> On Sunday, August 1, 2021 at 9:48:12 AM UTC-7 Atronoush wrote:
>
>> I am sure this has been addressed before but I cannot find it in forum
>> Assume you have a complex filter that results in an output containing few
>> tiddlers. Then you want to show them with a delimiter e.g. pipe (|)
>> One solution is below. I am looking for a more efficient solution! I
>> assume here TW makes the search two times! I know we can use a $set widget
>> here, but what better solution do you propose?
>>
>
> Overall, an interesting challenge in TiddlyWiki filtering.
> I had fun trying several approaches...
>
> The most efficient one is to use $set, as you suggested, like this:
> <$set name="out" filter="[tag[HelloThere]] [tag[About]] [tag[Platforms]]">
> <$list filter="[enlistbutlast[]]"><$link/> | 
> <$list filter="[enlistlast[]]   "><$link/>   
> 
>

Is it possible to use *subfilter* instead of *enlist* here? Which is
recommended?

<$set name="out" filter="[tag[HelloThere]] [tag[About]] [tag[Platforms]]">
<$list filter="[subfilterbutlast[]]"><$link/> | 
<$list filter="[subfilterlast[]]   "><$link/>   





> The improvement is that the filter is only evaluated once, with two
> enlist[] operators added.  Depending upon how many matching tiddlers are
> found, and assuming a reasonably short list, the enlist[] operators are
> likely to be more efficient than evaluating the filter twice.  Also, note
> the use of -[last[]] in your initial post is incorrect... it doesn't
> actually remove the final item. The correct operator to use is butlast[],
> as shown above.
>
> I also tried this:
> <$set name=out filter="[tag[HelloThere]] [tag[About]] [tag[Platforms]]">
> <$vars last={{{ [enlistlast[]] }}}>
> <$list filter="[enlist]"><$link/> <$text text={{{
> [!matchthen[|]] }}}/> 
> 
> 
> The improvement here is the same as above, except that uses an extra
> variable ("last") and an inline filter to decide when to insert the "|"
> between items, so it's obviously a bit less efficient.
>
> Lastly, I tried this:
> <$vars lb="[[" rb="]]">
> <$set name=out filter="[tag[HelloThere]] [tag[About]] [tag[Platforms]]">
> <$wikify name="out" text="""<$list
> filter="[enlistaddprefixaddsuffixjoin[ | ]trim[ | ]]"
> ><$link/>""">
><>
> 
> 
> 
> Of course, this is even less efficient than the previous solutions, as it
> uses wikify to produce the output, and needs to explicitly add brackets
> around the links.  However, it does demonstrate the use of join[] and
> trim[] to insert the "|" between items.
>
> -e
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Re: [tw5] 10 Years of TiddlyWiki Development in 7 Minutes

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Mario,
 This is amazing!

One question: How did you make this? Can we use this with Tiddlywiki:
root tags: create main branches
sub tags: create sub branches
Title: create nodes



Best wishes
Mohammad


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>
> 10 Years of TiddlyWiki Development in 7 Minutes
> 
>
> have fun!
> mario
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Re: [tw5] Re: Introduce Fishing, spaced repetition and active recall plugin for TiddlyWiki

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Sorry the Shiraz link was incorrect, see below the correct link

https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#Tutorial%20Display%20on%20Demand

Best wishes
Mohammad


On Mon, Aug 2, 2021 at 7:27 PM Mohammad Rahmani 
wrote:

> Very nice plugin! As others have said, it is simple to understand zero
> dependency!
>
> It is also possible to use several card per tiddler, that way you may like
> to use what Atro proposed
>
> See: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/details
>
> 
> caption question title
> you can add field caption with question to tiddler to change the
> showing title.
> 
>
>
> The status can be changed programmatically!
>
> Also a simpler solution can be find
> here: 
> file:///C:/TW/00.%20Plugins/TW-Shiraz/repo/docs/index.html#Tutorial%20Display%20on%20Demand
>
> By the way, I like the current design and am happy with that!
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 2, 2021 at 5:42 PM oflg Li  wrote:
>
>> Hi, Atronoush
>>
>> Ha, I like that collapse button. It's a system component, so everyone can
>> simply understand what it does. And it was one of the inspirations for this
>> plugin.
>>
>> I've changed the cat-face difficulty button to text, and modified the
>> "all, overdue" prompt.
>>
>> Check out the new version at  https://oflg.github.io/fishing/  !
>>
>> Thanks for your suggestion.
>> 在2021年8月1日星期日 UTC+8 下午8:42:37 写道：
>>
>>> Ah, just to correct myself.
>>> I saw you have used easy difficult button at the right bottom of
>>> tiddlers!
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>>
>>> On Sunday, August 1, 2021 at 5:11:12 PM UTC+4:30 Atronoush wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Oflg
>>>>
>>>> I love the simplicity. The learning curve is very short!
>>>>
>>>> just some few comments
>>>> 1. the plugin uses the system wide fold button to hide the content of
>>>> tiddler, so if I wish to install the plugin in my current wiki and and not
>>>> use the folding for other tiddlers, this make problem for fishing plugin
>>>> I think there are many good tools/solution out there to hide
>>>> /show/slide body of a tiddler tagged with Fishing.
>>>> look at Thomas Elmiger details widget or Shiraz (by kookma) display on
>>>> demand
>>>>
>>>> 2. It is good to add more explanation one can understand difference
>>>> between new, all. overdue, ...
>>>> 3. There is another plugin by James Anderson (
>>>> http://welford.github.io/twsr.html) it uses easy / difficult buttons
>>>> which may be useful here
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for all your talent and effort! Please keep going on with
>>>> this simple and very useful plugin
>>>>
>>>> --Atro
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, August 1, 2021 at 3:50:52 PM UTC+4:30 oflg...@gmail.com
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I am glad to create a flashcard plugin for TiddlyWiki - Fishing, which
>>>>> makes remembering tiddler more efficient. It's designed to be simple and
>>>>> easy, without the need to switch to any external system like Anki, all you
>>>>> need to do is simply add tag 'Fish' to the tiddler you want to remember.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have been using it for a few weeks now and would like to share it
>>>>> with TiddlyWiki Lovers and get some requests and feedback on improvements.
>>>>> Welcome to submit issues in GitHub
>>>>> <https://github.com/oflg/fishing/issues>, check it out and install it
>>>>> from https://oflg.github.io/fishing/.
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>>
>>>>> Screenshots:
>>>>> [image: Fishing.png]
>>>>> [image: fold.png]
>>>>> [image: unfold.png]
>>>>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Introduce Fishing, spaced repetition and active recall plugin for TiddlyWiki

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Very nice plugin! As others have said, it is simple to understand zero
dependency!

It is also possible to use several card per tiddler, that way you may like
to use what Atro proposed

See: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/details


caption question title
you can add field caption with question to tiddler to change the
showing title.



The status can be changed programmatically!

Also a simpler solution can be find
here: 
file:///C:/TW/00.%20Plugins/TW-Shiraz/repo/docs/index.html#Tutorial%20Display%20on%20Demand

By the way, I like the current design and am happy with that!


Best wishes
Mohammad


On Mon, Aug 2, 2021 at 5:42 PM oflg Li  wrote:

> Hi, Atronoush
>
> Ha, I like that collapse button. It's a system component, so everyone can
> simply understand what it does. And it was one of the inspirations for this
> plugin.
>
> I've changed the cat-face difficulty button to text, and modified the
> "all, overdue" prompt.
>
> Check out the new version at  https://oflg.github.io/fishing/  !
>
> Thanks for your suggestion.
> 在2021年8月1日星期日 UTC+8 下午8:42:37 写道：
>
>> Ah, just to correct myself.
>> I saw you have used easy difficult button at the right bottom of tiddlers!
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> On Sunday, August 1, 2021 at 5:11:12 PM UTC+4:30 Atronoush wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Oflg
>>>
>>> I love the simplicity. The learning curve is very short!
>>>
>>> just some few comments
>>> 1. the plugin uses the system wide fold button to hide the content of
>>> tiddler, so if I wish to install the plugin in my current wiki and and not
>>> use the folding for other tiddlers, this make problem for fishing plugin
>>> I think there are many good tools/solution out there to hide /show/slide
>>> body of a tiddler tagged with Fishing.
>>> look at Thomas Elmiger details widget or Shiraz (by kookma) display on
>>> demand
>>>
>>> 2. It is good to add more explanation one can understand difference
>>> between new, all. overdue, ...
>>> 3. There is another plugin by James Anderson (
>>> http://welford.github.io/twsr.html) it uses easy / difficult buttons
>>> which may be useful here
>>>
>>> Thank you for all your talent and effort! Please keep going on with this
>>> simple and very useful plugin
>>>
>>> --Atro
>>>
>>> On Sunday, August 1, 2021 at 3:50:52 PM UTC+4:30 oflg...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I am glad to create a flashcard plugin for TiddlyWiki - Fishing, which
 makes remembering tiddler more efficient. It's designed to be simple and
 easy, without the need to switch to any external system like Anki, all you
 need to do is simply add tag 'Fish' to the tiddler you want to remember.

 I have been using it for a few weeks now and would like to share it
 with TiddlyWiki Lovers and get some requests and feedback on improvements.
 Welcome to submit issues in GitHub
 , check it out and install it
 from https://oflg.github.io/fishing/.

 

 Screenshots:
 [image: Fishing.png]
 [image: fold.png]
 [image: unfold.png]


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Re: [tw5] New JSON Store Area Now in v5.2.0 Prerelease

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Hi Saq,
 Sure I do!


Best wishes
Mohammad


On Sun, Aug 1, 2021 at 11:24 AM Saq Imtiaz  wrote:

> @Mohammad I recommend posting this as an issue at
> https://github.com/flibbles/tw5-uglify
>
> On Sunday, August 1, 2021 at 8:41:52 AM UTC+2 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> I am testing Tiddlywiki 5.2.0 p with different plugins I use.
>>
>> Today I noticed Uglify (Uglify — Plugin compression made easy
>> (flibbles.github.io) ) which is
>> used to compress JS and make TW a smaller html works in reverse order!
>> I mean using Uglify makes TW 5.2.0 single html files with basic plugins
>> (codemirror, highlight.js, katex,...) get larger in size!
>> Strangely I do the unglifing several times, each time I get a bigger
>> file! This is not the case with TW 5.1.23
>>
>> @flibbles would you please have a look!
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 4:05 PM Jeremy Ruston 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It doesn’t sound very exciting, but the new JSON-based store area has
>>> now been merged into the prerelease.
>>>
>>> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/
>>>
>>> This is the big change that has prompted us moving from v5.1.23 to
>>> v5.2.0. It brings one major benefit to all users of TiddlyWIki: the
>>> characters used in field names are now unrestricted, making it possible to
>>> use fieldnames like "My^Field” or “☃️”.
>>>
>>> While that is an important change that we hope will lead to the
>>> development of interesting new techniques for working with data in
>>> TiddlyWiki, the biggest risk of this change is that it is not fully
>>> backwards compatible.
>>>
>>> That is to say that *any tools that work directly with TiddlyWiki files
>>> will no longer work as expected, and need updating to understand the new
>>> format*.
>>>
>>> The new format is documented here:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/dev/#Data%20Storage%20in%20Single%20File%20TiddlyWiki
>>>
>>> We have tried to anticipate the problems that this change might cause,
>>> for example working with Simon Baird to fix TiddlyHost ready for the
>>> change. You can follow the technical discussions here:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/5708
>>>
>>> But now we need everyone’s help to try the new version, to help us
>>> identify any incompatibilities before the final release.
>>>
>>> Please try the prerelease with as many different saving mechanisms and
>>> server backends as possible. You can report any problems here, or by
>>> opening a new ticket on GitHub.
>>>
>>> For me personally this feels like a big milestone. TW5 has used the same
>>> DIV-based tiddler store area since the very beginning in 2011, having
>>> directly inherited it from TiddlyWiki Classic. I reused the old format to
>>> give TW5 compatibility with the ecosystem of tools around TiddlyWiki
>>> Classic. Now that the TW5 ecosystem is so much bigger, it makes sense to
>>> move to a store area format that has fewer restrictions and is easier for
>>> developers to work with.
>>>
>>> Just for fun, I wrote a Node.js one-liner to extract the tiddlers from a
>>> TiddlyWiki HTML file. In contrast, a few hundred lines were needed to read
>>> the old format:
>>>
>>> var
>>> 

Re: [tw5] New JSON Store Area Now in v5.2.0 Prerelease

[Mohammad Rahmani]

I am testing Tiddlywiki 5.2.0 p with different plugins I use.

Today I noticed Uglify (Uglify — Plugin compression made easy
(flibbles.github.io) ) which is
used to compress JS and make TW a smaller html works in reverse order!
I mean using Uglify makes TW 5.2.0 single html files with basic plugins
(codemirror, highlight.js, katex,...) get larger in size!
Strangely I do the unglifing several times, each time I get a bigger file!
This is not the case with TW 5.1.23

@flibbles would you please have a look!



Best wishes
Mohammad


On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 4:05 PM Jeremy Ruston 
wrote:

> It doesn’t sound very exciting, but the new JSON-based store area has now
> been merged into the prerelease.
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/
>
> This is the big change that has prompted us moving from v5.1.23 to v5.2.0.
> It brings one major benefit to all users of TiddlyWIki: the characters used
> in field names are now unrestricted, making it possible to use fieldnames
> like "My^Field” or “☃️”.
>
> While that is an important change that we hope will lead to the
> development of interesting new techniques for working with data in
> TiddlyWiki, the biggest risk of this change is that it is not fully
> backwards compatible.
>
> That is to say that *any tools that work directly with TiddlyWiki files
> will no longer work as expected, and need updating to understand the new
> format*.
>
> The new format is documented here:
>
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/dev/#Data%20Storage%20in%20Single%20File%20TiddlyWiki
>
> We have tried to anticipate the problems that this change might cause, for
> example working with Simon Baird to fix TiddlyHost ready for the change.
> You can follow the technical discussions here:
>
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/5708
>
> But now we need everyone’s help to try the new version, to help us
> identify any incompatibilities before the final release.
>
> Please try the prerelease with as many different saving mechanisms and
> server backends as possible. You can report any problems here, or by
> opening a new ticket on GitHub.
>
> For me personally this feels like a big milestone. TW5 has used the same
> DIV-based tiddler store area since the very beginning in 2011, having
> directly inherited it from TiddlyWiki Classic. I reused the old format to
> give TW5 compatibility with the ecosystem of tools around TiddlyWiki
> Classic. Now that the TW5 ecosystem is so much bigger, it makes sense to
> move to a store area format that has fewer restrictions and is easier for
> developers to work with.
>
> Just for fun, I wrote a Node.js one-liner to extract the tiddlers from a
> TiddlyWiki HTML file. In contrast, a few hundred lines were needed to read
> the old format:
>
> var
> 

Re: [tw5] Re: Shiraz list-content (experimental)

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Hi Mark,
 Thank you for updating and sharing all that great stuff!
 I am really happy to hear Shiraz is helpful in your workflow!
Best wishes
Mohammad


On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 11:19 PM Mark  wrote:

> Hi Mohammad,
>
> Unfortunately, the full-text essay links are to a password protected ebook
> collection as Jung's *Collected Works* are still protected by copyright.
>
> However, thanks for pointing out the pdflink macro as I'm sure to put it
> to use in other projects.
>
> Your list-content idea has now been folded into my *Library Guide to
> Jung's Collected Works* to enable a search for essays that appear in the
> *CW*: https://pacifica.libguides.com/Jung/essays
>
> I'm now also experimenting with your Timelines plugin so as to developed
> a chronology of Jung's writings.
>
> I've also put your Shiraz framework to good use to develop a *visual map
> of library resources* for new students:
> https://www.pacifica.edu/wp-content/content/lib/searchkit/dja.html
>
> Thanks again for your inspiration and for all your plugins, frameworks,
> demos and tutorials!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mark
>
> On Sunday, July 4, 2021 at 10:07:06 PM UTC-7 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Hi Mark!
>>
>> Great! I like your template! Very beautiful output!
>> Also many thanks for sharing your template and output!
>>
>>
>> Extra point:
>> I assume the fulltext essay are PDF files! If you like to click and open
>> a specific page in pdf file, e.g. click the link and open page 236 of file
>> then head over TW-Scripts (https://kookma.github.io/TW-Scripts/) and
>> look for pdflink macro!
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 5, 2021 at 12:30 AM Mark  wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you Mohammad for all the rich possibilities in Shiraz and for
>>> pointing me to these list-search options!
>>>
>>> I used this list-search macro:
>>>
>>> <>> "[tag[cw]]"
>>> "search:title"
>>> "$:/temp/list-search"
>>> "template/list-search/card-list"
>>> placeholder:"Enter essay title" >>
>>>
>>> with this template: template/list-search/card-list
>>>
>>> <>> title:"<$link/>"
>>> text:"<$transclude field=v tag='cw'/>: //<$transclude field=vt
>>> tag='cw'/>// (pp. <$transclude field=pp tag='cw'/>)<$transclude
>>> field=ebsco tag='cw'/>"
>>> width:"80%"
>>> class:"shadow border-dark text-dark"
>>> >>
>>>
>>> It worked well to create a quick way to search for an essay or chapter
>>> title from all 280 essays and chapters that make up C. G. Jung's *Collected
>>> Works*.
>>>
>>> [image: ListContentCW.png]
>>>
>>> The performance so far is very good for these 280 entries.
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> On Saturday, July 3, 2021 at 12:46:54 AM UTC-7 Mohammad wrote:
>>>
 Hi Mark,
  It is here

 https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#Tutorial%20List%20and%20Search

 It is stable and you can use it in your project! I recommend using
 Shiraz instead of extracting part of it!


 Best wishes
 Mohammad


 On Sat, Jul 3, 2021 at 12:00 AM Mark  wrote:

> Hi Mohammad,
>
> I could put this list-content macro to use in a project I'm working
> on. Is it available to experiment with? I could not find it at
> https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/
>
> Thanks!
>
> mck
>
> On Friday, June 4, 2021 at 9:14:28 AM UTC-7 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Shiraz has a list-search which is very handy and list filtered
>> tiddlers with a search box lets you search in results!
>> Shiraz has a lot of features that lets you create new tools with more
>> ease!
>>
>> I have implemented another list macro called list-content! BUT I'm
>> not sure if it has already been published (introduced) by another
>> user/developer!
>>
>> The list-content is actually a search box, but instead of displaying
>> titles, it displays the tiddler with its content!
>>
>> As soon as it find any results it shows
>>
>> 1. each result as a Card
>> 2. The resulting tiddler is displayed with title, subtitle, tags and
>> text
>> 3. It is possible to have multi column result or truncate the text
>> and show part of text
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
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Re: [tw5] TiddlyWiki Community Call and File Uploads Plugin

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Thank you for sharing Saq!
 I will attend and I am sure we can learn from this event!


Best wishes
Mohammad


On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 12:03 AM Saq Imtiaz  wrote:

> We will be having a *TiddlyWiki Community call* with Jeremy, Boris and
> myself on August 17th at 6pm CET: TiddlyWiki Community: Core Savers &
> Syncers, Upload Plugin, & Community Forum - Zoom 
>
> I hope some of you will be able to join us for what I think will be a very
> interesting discussion. Please register for the event at the link above.
>
> The call will include:
>
>- a progress update on my work on the *Uploads plugin* funded by Open
>Collective
>- a summary of some rather exciting and promising avenues for core
>development in the areas of *Savers and Syncers* that has come out of
>discussions around the Uploads plugin
>- an update on the *Open Collective* model for funding TiddlyWiki work
>and what we have learned from it thus far
>- some news from Jeremy and Boris regarding improvements to TiddlyWiki 
> *community
>infrastructure*.
>
> I have been slowly working away on the TiddlyWiki file uploads plugin as
> was previously announced
> .
> The majority of the work thus far has consisted of brainstorming around the
> architecture and some very involved but promising and productive
> discussions with Jeremy around how such a plugin would integrate with the
> core, and the direction that the core might take in the future with regards
> to saving and syncing mechanisms.
>
> In particular we have identified some exciting opportunities to explore in
> due course for a rethinking of the saver and syncer mechanisms that may
> amongst other things eventually make file uploads a core TiddlyWiki ability
> alongside saving and syncing and static file publishing.
>
> This has necessitated a change in approach to the File Uploads plugin so
> as to not introduce changes to the TiddlyWiki core at this time which may
> clash with the long term direction of development, and still make the
> Uploads plugin available in a timely manner for those that need this
> functionality today. I currently have a minimal working prototype that
> uploads images imported into TiddlyWiki to Fission, though with no UI or
> error handling as of yet and desperately in need of some heavy refactoring
> to better be able to support different storage back ends. I hope to present
> a demo of an early version of the plugin on the call.
>
> I would like to take the opportunity here to thank Boris and Fission.
> Despite Boris having chipped in for the vast majority of the funding for
> this plugin as it is something he needs in his own TiddlyWiki usage, not
> only has he been patient and supportive as we focus on long term core
> planning first, but Fission has actively been facilitating those
> discussions.
>
> Regards,
> Saq
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Re: [tw5] Re: Katex and TiddlyWiki: Some syntax does not work

[Mohammad Rahmani]

On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 5:18 PM PMario  wrote:

> Hi
> I did create an issue:
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/5907
> -m
>

Thank you Mario! Yes 0.13.3 has tones of new features and bug fixes!




>
> On Thursday, July 22, 2021 at 2:39:05 PM UTC+2 PMario wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> It seems {align} support started with KaTex 0.13.0 ... The version used
>> in TW is 0.12.0 which is about 1 year old.
>> So we will probably need to make an update.
>> -mario
>>
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Re: [tw5] New JSON Store Area Now in v5.2.0 Prerelease

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Thank you both for your clarification!
I did take some backups!

This is a crazy test and it works.
Windows 10 User: use windows key + ; to see emojis


[image: image.png]



Best wishes
Mohammad


On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 10:30 PM Jeremy Ruston 
wrote:

> Hi Mohammad, Mario,
>
>  Thank you for all your efforts. Does this testing include single file
>> save with tools like Timimi?
>>
>
> It's related to single file wiki actions and especially 3rd party plugins.
> So it should be tested with real-world wikis. BUT
>
> MAKE BACKUPS and don't use your production wikis to test. ... Use "clones"
> ;)
>
>
> Yes, saving solutions like Timini are exactly the sort of thing that needs
> testing.
>
> Or is this more related to server backends?
>>
>
> no
>
>
> Actually, these changes do impact server backends (see the changes to the
> TiddlyWeb plugin in the PR), and so it is definitely worth testing them too.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
>
>> I noticed I have to update the Tiddler Commander plugin, as it forces
>> users to use lowercase names for field names and remove all nasty
>> characters! Now this restriction is lifted!
>>
>
> That's right
>
> -m
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Re: [tw5] New JSON Store Area Now in v5.2.0 Prerelease

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Hi Jeremy,

 Thank you for all your efforts. Does this testing include single file save
with tools like Timimi? Or is this more related to server backends?

 I noticed I have to update the Tiddler Commander plugin, as it forces
users to use lowercase names for field names and remove all nasty
characters! Now this restriction is lifted!


Best wishes
Mohammad


On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 4:05 PM Jeremy Ruston 
wrote:

> It doesn’t sound very exciting, but the new JSON-based store area has now
> been merged into the prerelease.
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/
>
> This is the big change that has prompted us moving from v5.1.23 to v5.2.0.
> It brings one major benefit to all users of TiddlyWIki: the characters used
> in field names are now unrestricted, making it possible to use fieldnames
> like "My^Field” or “☃️”.
>
> While that is an important change that we hope will lead to the
> development of interesting new techniques for working with data in
> TiddlyWiki, the biggest risk of this change is that it is not fully
> backwards compatible.
>
> That is to say that *any tools that work directly with TiddlyWiki files
> will no longer work as expected, and need updating to understand the new
> format*.
>
> The new format is documented here:
>
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/dev/#Data%20Storage%20in%20Single%20File%20TiddlyWiki
>
> We have tried to anticipate the problems that this change might cause, for
> example working with Simon Baird to fix TiddlyHost ready for the change.
> You can follow the technical discussions here:
>
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/5708
>
> But now we need everyone’s help to try the new version, to help us
> identify any incompatibilities before the final release.
>
> Please try the prerelease with as many different saving mechanisms and
> server backends as possible. You can report any problems here, or by
> opening a new ticket on GitHub.
>
> For me personally this feels like a big milestone. TW5 has used the same
> DIV-based tiddler store area since the very beginning in 2011, having
> directly inherited it from TiddlyWiki Classic. I reused the old format to
> give TW5 compatibility with the ecosystem of tools around TiddlyWiki
> Classic. Now that the TW5 ecosystem is so much bigger, it makes sense to
> move to a store area format that has fewer restrictions and is easier for
> developers to work with.
>
> Just for fun, I wrote a Node.js one-liner to extract the tiddlers from a
> TiddlyWiki HTML file. In contrast, a few hundred lines were needed to read
> the old format:
>
> var
> 

Re: [tw5] Re: [IDEA]: Drag and Drop a Bookmark.html Exported from Chrome/Edge/Firefox

[Mohammad Rahmani]

;>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Very nice! So, one can define a new function in middle of the code!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Inside this function you can do the string replacement of unwanted
>>>>>>>>> characters and also check for already existing titles in a loop, and 
>>>>>>>>> return
>>>>>>>>> the new title. This is an aesthetic thing though and wont really 
>>>>>>>>> impact the
>>>>>>>>> efficiency of the code.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Perfect!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> @TT the regexp is good, Mohammad refers to check for duplicate
>>>>>>>>> titles only once instead of in a loop. So if "TiddlyWiki.com" already
>>>>>>>>> exists, we have to check if "TiddlyWiki.com1" already exists.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you for all your help! I would appreciate sharing your final
>>>>>>>> version! and give a link for the community!
>>>>>>>> I think that my version is not good enough to be used by
>>>>>>>> other users!
>>>>>>>> (p.s I am not sure if these deserializers may be part of core later
>>>>>>>> or not! If not, it is worth having them as a plugin!)
>>>>>>>> I will write small help for potential users!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 4:39:13 PM UTC+2 TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> IF the regex on match is NOT GLOBAL flagged it will only match
>>>>>>>>>> the first instance.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I am NOT familiar with JS regex flags but try this ...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> */[|{}\[\]]/gi*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Let me know!
>>>>>>>>>> TT
>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, 22 May 2021 at 16:18:56 UTC+2 Mohammad wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ah, there is an issue! It only searches for the first occurrence!
>>>>>>>>>>> Needs to be corrected!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Best wishes
>>>>>>>>>>> Mohammad
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 6:39 PM Mohammad Rahmani <
>>>>>>>>>>> mohammad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Saq,
>>>>>>>>>>>>  This is the third revision! I used indexOf() and it seems it
>>>>>>>>>>>> is compatible with ES5.
>>>>>>>>>>>>  I am not sure if the code is an efficient one or not, but it
>>>>>>>>>>>> works!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To give it a try I have attached a bookmarks file containing
>>>>>>>>>>>> characters on parsing to generate duplicates!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Best wishes
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mohammad
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 3:56 PM Saq Imtiaz 
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Mohammad, it looks good!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>

Re: [tw5] Re: Shiraz list-content (experimental)

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Hi David,
 Sure, I will do!


Best wishes
Mohammad


On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 9:34 PM David Gifford  wrote:

> @Mohammad: oh okay, I thought maybe you created something separate from
> List-search. Of course we won't be able to play with it until you give us a
> link. I mean, of course a permalink to that type of search that displays
> results as entire tiddlers...
>
> On Wednesday, July 7, 2021 at 10:22:34 AM UTC-5 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Hi David,
>>
>>  I think there is no list-content in Shiraz! It is actually list-search
>> inspired from original list-search by Tobias Beers
>>  See: https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/Q34LKMeqZFI/m/grAXRbx6AgAJ
>>
>> Yes, this is a great feature and has many use cases. I have used other
>> searchboxes in combination with dynamic tables, FAQ, 
>>
>> Your ideas are great! and I hope Mark or other interested people
>> implement them.
>> Thank you for sharing!
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 5:49 PM David Gifford  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone
>>>
>>> I have been using the list-search macro for years. Mohammad, this is a
>>> nice similar implementation!
>>>
>>> Comments:
>>>
>>> 1. This would also be doable with the List-search macro but with a
>>> custom ListItemTemplate. In case anyone is really invested in the
>>> List-search macro.
>>> 2. I have two related ideas. Whether for Mohammad as original poster, or
>>> Mark who says he is working on a related project. Or anyonle else who is
>>> listening in.
>>>
>>> 2a. Imagine if there were a way, either in list-search macro, Mohammad's
>>> list-content, or some other related project, to click on a radio button to
>>> choose between different views (different custom ListItemTemplates) .
>>> Similar to the options for viewing lists in Stroll, but for a filterable
>>> list.
>>>
>>> 2b. Imagine if there were a way to click on a radio button to choose
>>> what field to filter by. The list-search macro is limited to filtering by
>>> one field. If you want to change it, you have to open the macro and change
>>> it.
>>>
>>> I throw these ideas out there since you guys are playing with this. It
>>> would be nice to have these two kinds of customizability in filterable
>>> lists. Maybe hidden under a slider so it doesn't look too messy.
>>>
>>> On Friday, June 4, 2021 at 11:14:28 AM UTC-5 Mohammad wrote:
>>>
 Shiraz has a list-search which is very handy and list filtered tiddlers
 with a search box lets you search in results!
 Shiraz has a lot of features that lets you create new tools with more
 ease!

 I have implemented another list macro called list-content! BUT I'm not
 sure if it has already been published (introduced) by another
 user/developer!

 The list-content is actually a search box, but instead of displaying
 titles, it displays the tiddler with its content!

 As soon as it find any results it shows

 1. each result as a Card
 2. The resulting tiddler is displayed with title, subtitle, tags and
 text
 3. It is possible to have multi column result or truncate the text and
 show part of text



 Best wishes
 Mohammad

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Re: [tw5] New entries to documenting.tw (July 7 2021)

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Hi David,
 Very useful indeed!

Thank you for sharing!



Best wishes
Mohammad


On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 6:59 PM David Gifford  wrote:

>
> Hi everyone
>
> I updated my "documenting TW" tutorial file today with the following
> entries
>
> Custom ways to view results in lists
> 
> hideme macro (easy way to view and open hidden content)
> 
> Colored and gradient backgrounds for tiddlers
> 
>
> Enjoy!
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Re: [tw5] Re: [IDEA]: Drag and Drop a Bookmark.html Exported from Chrome/Edge/Firefox

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Hi Tones
Actually I was working on a bookmarker plugin implementing different tools!
Saq has finalized the JS code and has given me very useful inputs.
I promised Diego to publish it! But I am very busy and I hope I can do this
in my free time!

By the way, I can post the JS tiddler (deserializer) if you can use it
directly!
Sorry @Diego Mesa  for not finishing this!


I really miss the TW community, writing TW scripts, and developing new
plugins. I hope I can return not too late!



Best wishes
Mohammad


On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 11:40 AM TW Tones  wrote:

> Folks,
>
> Do we have a final product as a result of this thread?
>
> Could a link to this published work be share in a post at the bottom of
> this thread please.
>
> Thanks for the effort.
>
> Tones
>
> On Monday, 7 June 2021 at 14:58:41 UTC+10 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Hi Diego,
>>
>>  I totally forgot about this! I will upload to GitHub this weekend!
>> The JS code has been finalized by Saq!
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 7, 2021 at 8:40 AM dieg...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Mohammad.
>>>
>>> Was this ever pushed to github?
>>>
>>> On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 12:45:56 PM UTC-7 Mohammad wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Saq,
>>>>  Many thanks for all your help! Sure I will! Of course this is a
>>>> product from *TW Colab*! ;-) :-)
>>>> I add documentation and soon I will push it to GitHub!
>>>>
>>>> I also appreciate all the help from Josih!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes
>>>> Mohammad
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 11:59 PM Saq Imtiaz  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Mohammad! As per our email discourse, your code is good. Polish it
>>>>> up and publish the first kookma JavaScript plugin!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 6:32:31 PM UTC+2 Mohammad wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 8:44 PM Saq Imtiaz 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> @Mohammad yes you need to have a while loop:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> while(results.Title.indexOf(title) == -1) {
>>>>>>> title = title + "1";
>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is correct! I did a similar in R04!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> results.*Title*.indexOf(title)
>>>>>> I did not know this!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Another improvement you can make just to have neater code, is to
>>>>>>> make a function called getTitle outside and before the $tw.utils.each 
>>>>>>> loop.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> var getTitle = function(title) {
>>>>>>> title = title.replace.
>>>>>>>  while(title in resultsTitles) {
>>>>>>> title = title + "1";
>>>>>>>  }
>>>>>>> return title;
>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Very nice! So, one can define a new function in middle of the code!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Inside this function you can do the string replacement of unwanted
>>>>>>> characters and also check for already existing titles in a loop, and 
>>>>>>> return
>>>>>>> the new title. This is an aesthetic thing though and wont really impact 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> efficiency of the code.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perfect!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> @TT the regexp is good, Mohammad refers to check for duplicate
>>>>>>> titles only once instead of in a loop. So if "TiddlyWiki.com" already
>>>>>>> exists, we have to check if "TiddlyWiki.com1" already exists.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you for all your help! I would appreciate sharing your final
>>>>>> version! and give a link for the community!
>>>>>> I think that my version i

Re: [tw5] Re: Shiraz list-content (experimental)

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Hi David,

 I think there is no list-content in Shiraz! It is actually list-search
inspired from original list-search by Tobias Beers
 See: https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/Q34LKMeqZFI/m/grAXRbx6AgAJ

Yes, this is a great feature and has many use cases. I have used other
searchboxes in combination with dynamic tables, FAQ, 

Your ideas are great! and I hope Mark or other interested people implement
them.
Thank you for sharing!



Best wishes
Mohammad


On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 5:49 PM David Gifford  wrote:

> Hi everyone
>
> I have been using the list-search macro for years. Mohammad, this is a
> nice similar implementation!
>
> Comments:
>
> 1. This would also be doable with the List-search macro but with a custom
> ListItemTemplate. In case anyone is really invested in the List-search
> macro.
> 2. I have two related ideas. Whether for Mohammad as original poster, or
> Mark who says he is working on a related project. Or anyonle else who is
> listening in.
>
> 2a. Imagine if there were a way, either in list-search macro, Mohammad's
> list-content, or some other related project, to click on a radio button to
> choose between different views (different custom ListItemTemplates) .
> Similar to the options for viewing lists in Stroll, but for a filterable
> list.
>
> 2b. Imagine if there were a way to click on a radio button to choose what
> field to filter by. The list-search macro is limited to filtering by one
> field. If you want to change it, you have to open the macro and change it.
>
> I throw these ideas out there since you guys are playing with this. It
> would be nice to have these two kinds of customizability in filterable
> lists. Maybe hidden under a slider so it doesn't look too messy.
>
> On Friday, June 4, 2021 at 11:14:28 AM UTC-5 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Shiraz has a list-search which is very handy and list filtered tiddlers
>> with a search box lets you search in results!
>> Shiraz has a lot of features that lets you create new tools with more
>> ease!
>>
>> I have implemented another list macro called list-content! BUT I'm not
>> sure if it has already been published (introduced) by another
>> user/developer!
>>
>> The list-content is actually a search box, but instead of displaying
>> titles, it displays the tiddler with its content!
>>
>> As soon as it find any results it shows
>>
>> 1. each result as a Card
>> 2. The resulting tiddler is displayed with title, subtitle, tags and text
>> 3. It is possible to have multi column result or truncate the text and
>> show part of text
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
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Re: [tw5] Tiddlywiki is the best instrument for making on-line collections!

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Hi Siniy-kit,

 It is good to hear from you! I recommend preparing a small tutorial that
lets interested people use your JS code
with their Tiddlywiki! Perhaps an online repo could be better.

Best wishes
Mohammad


On Sat, Jul 3, 2021 at 4:50 PM Siniy-Kit  wrote:

> Hi. Years ago I wrote a little javascript to teach my empty
> tiddlywiki.html download data from googlespreadsheet by id and work like a
> little on-line store with cart  and on-line paying by cards.  So people can
> make copy of my googlespeadsheet template put their data to it and "open"
> their stores on my (or their) site.
>
> Two days ago I find  this
> https://heeg.ru/shop2_2.html?id=16JELK8FYfS5hByHcX-XT1Z9x5M5xjUMz4g9p_LJczKw#regular_RF
> in logs of my site
> Somebody start creating his on-line collection of coins by copy of my
> spreadsheet
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16JELK8FYfS5hByHcX-XT1Z9x5M5xjUMz4g9p_LJczKw/edit#gid=1907265902
> !
>
> Many people collect something (coins, stamps...) and* Tiddllywiki with
> its macros and filters can become  a good instrument to make  digital
> collection with sorting by year, material, country and so on*. You can
> make your collection on-line, or send solo html by e-mail. Tiddlywiki
> has strong sides, and we can use it.
>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Shiraz list-content (experimental)

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Hi Mark,
 It is here

https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#Tutorial%20List%20and%20Search

It is stable and you can use it in your project! I recommend using Shiraz
instead of extracting part of it!


Best wishes
Mohammad


On Sat, Jul 3, 2021 at 12:00 AM Mark  wrote:

> Hi Mohammad,
>
> I could put this list-content macro to use in a project I'm working on. Is
> it available to experiment with? I could not find it at
> https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/
>
> Thanks!
>
> mck
>
> On Friday, June 4, 2021 at 9:14:28 AM UTC-7 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Shiraz has a list-search which is very handy and list filtered tiddlers
>> with a search box lets you search in results!
>> Shiraz has a lot of features that lets you create new tools with more
>> ease!
>>
>> I have implemented another list macro called list-content! BUT I'm not
>> sure if it has already been published (introduced) by another
>> user/developer!
>>
>> The list-content is actually a search box, but instead of displaying
>> titles, it displays the tiddler with its content!
>>
>> As soon as it find any results it shows
>>
>> 1. each result as a Card
>> 2. The resulting tiddler is displayed with title, subtitle, tags and text
>> 3. It is possible to have multi column result or truncate the text and
>> show part of text
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
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Re: [tw5] protected macros

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Hi Jean-Pierre,
 This is quite common in other programming languages! It is also possible
in TW!
 Put all those sub-macros in another tiddler say $:/jean/macros/utility NOT
tagged with $:/tags/Macro
 In the main macro after definition line (header) \import
$:/jean/macros/utility

That's all! There are some good hints in TW-Scripts.

Best wishes
Mohammad


On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 4:13 AM Jean-Pierre Rivière <
jn.pierre.rivi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> In a tiddlers tagged as #:/tags/Macro there is a public macro. It requires
> other macros to achieve its goals, but these macros have no business being
> used elsewhere.
>
> If I declare these macros in the same tiddler, they are exported. Bad :-(
> To mitigate that, I have their name beginning with an underscore, meaning
> to me not to use them elsewhere.
>
> But if two differentss macros tiddler both define their own _subMacro,
> what _subMacro would be called? the one in the same tiddler or maybe yes,
> maybe not, we can't say. This is the real problem.
>
> same question if my macro tiddler has _myStuff macro and a non macro
> tiddler define a macro also called _myStuff and use it: which one would be
> called? That's a variation from the previous question.
>
> I know I can have _mySuff macro into a separate non macro tiddler, and
> \import it within my macro tiddler. That way my macro tiddler is 100%
> functionaal and _myStuff is not exported but creating another tiddler is a
> problem in itself: it's yet another tiddler, it's not that a good idea
> because it's only there for a single tiddler, and I would need to have a
> name for it. It would complexify my naming convention which is already a
> lengthy paper... and I would have to decide which idea is the one I shall
> get. to be honest, my macro fubar for the foo matter is in
> $:/user/foo/macros/fubar. So where should _sub4fubar be ?
> $:/user/foo/macros/fubar/private would do but then $:/user/foo/macros/fubar
> would both be a file and a directory, whis is a no go. So no way to store
> anything below the macro name. $:/user/foo/privateMacros/fubar perhaps?
> or  $:/user/foo/private/macros/fubar ? I could have some macro for a bar
> filter in $:/user/foo/private/filters/fubar but then I don't have the same
> meaning for macros there than in the $:/user/foo/macros/fubar where
> "macros" tells that here are macros but in $:/user/foo/private/macros/fubar
> "macros" tells that this concerns a macro tiddler  named fubar but could be
> whatever, not especially macros (altgough very likely macros). And when the
> macro has no sub macros, the naming convention shouuld be the same: do not
> complexify 100% for the 10%. This rules out a scheme like
> $:/user/foo/macros/fubar/fubar and $:/user/foo/macros/fubar/_sub4fubar
> which would otherwise answer the question (but being a very ugly beast).
>
> A suggestion: could we say that any macro whose name starts by _ or even
> __ for compatibility's sake, is not exported even within a macro tiddler?
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Re: [tw5] Artwork for v5.2.0

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Hi Springer,
 Everything looks great! Thank you!



Best wishes
Mohammad


On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 6:51 PM springer  wrote:

> Mohammad,
>
> Thanks! Let me know, of course, if you'd prefer any tweaks to color,
> opacity, etc., or font choices within the icon part.
>
> -Springer
>
>
> On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 11:27:52 PM UTC-4 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Springer,
>>
>>  Many thanks! Your mockup is now great! I appreciate all your efforts
>> both for this mockup and also for hosting the competition art works!
>>  Kudos gos to you!
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 27, 2021 at 9:32 PM springer  wrote:
>>
>>> I've tweaked a *bit* more, and added Mohammad's submission to our
>>> gallery at:
>>>
>>> https://tw-logo-contest.tiddlyhost.com/
>>>
>>> -Springer
>>>
>>> On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 12:49:06 PM UTC-4 springer wrote:
>>>
 Hi all, I had an exchange with Mohammad about the actual graphic file,
 to which he does not have access.

 But the work was based on his own sketches, and it's not too hard to
 replicate after discovering that the font is open-source Saira (google
 font), apart from the curly brackets, whose font isn't yet clear to me. So
 here's a rough mockup of Mohammad's design, though I admit I haven't
 obsessed about replicating all the details:

 [image: Mohammad's JSON logo mockup.png]

 On Saturday, June 26, 2021 at 1:56:58 PM UTC-4 Mohammad wrote:

> Just to have a little fun in this competition!
>
> These are my designs, but I'm not sure if they are suitable for the
> new release logo!
>
> [image: image.png]
>
>
>
> [image: img_342_chrome.png]
>
>
> and also!
>
> [image: img_341_chrome.png]
>
>
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 13, 2021 at 3:44 PM Jeremy Ruston 
> wrote:
>
>> This is to announce our regular competition for the artwork for the
>> next release of TiddlyWiki 5. The next release is planned to be called
>> v5.2.0, which requires a little explanation.
>>
>> We've bumped the minor version number because of a single very
>> important change: for the first time in a decade, we're changing the 
>> format
>> used to encode tiddlers into the HTML file.
>>
>> The new format is based on JSON, making it much easier to develop
>> tools that produce or consume TW5 standalone HTML files. While there is
>> some limited backwards compatibility, the developers of many existing 
>> tools
>> will need to make modifications to keep things working with v5.2.0.
>>
>> Hence the version number change: it's intended to make every
>> developer ask "Gosh, what could have changed to warrant such a big jump",
>> and helps us to make sure that the news of the change is promulgated as
>> widely and prominently as possible.
>>
>> The change also brings one big improvement for all users: field names
>> now have no restrictions on which characters can be used, and are
>> case-sensitive so that "MyField" is a valid fieldname, and refers to a
>> different field than "myfield" (just like tiddler titles). Finally, we 
>> can
>> have fields called "⛄️".
>>
>> These changes will be merged shortly, but in the meantime can be
>> inspected here:
>>
>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/5708
>>
>> So, with that, back to the artwork competition. The task is to design
>> the banner image that is shown on the splash screen and within the 
>> opening
>> HelloThere tiddler. It is traditional for the artwork to reflect some of
>> the changes in the new version.
>>
>> The rules for the competition are:
>>
>> * The version number (with the correct punctuation) must be clear and
>> readable even when the banner is shown at a reduced size
>> * The image must be a PNG, JPEG or SVG of exactly 560x315 pixels
>> * The bottom 46 pixels will be obscured by the banner text “What’s
>> new in 5.2.0” when it is displayed within HelloThere
>> * Feel free to enter an updated version of artwork that was a
>> runner-up in a previous competition
>> * Reply to this message with your entry, or any questions
>>
>> Here are the posts about previous artwork competitions:
>>
>> v5.1.23 -
>> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/cTgPWl8b_9c/m/VtrMFHBGAwAJ
>> v5.1.22 -
>> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/rYrja18_SfQ/m/JAklPfjfAwAJ
>> v5.1.21 -
>> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/l47ZZzWdDb8/m/6s0p_3QeCgAJ
>>
>> If you’ve got a great idea for the banner image, but don’t have the
>> skills to produce finished artwork, do feel free to share your ideas in
>> case somebody else would like to work on the artwork.
>>
>> The competition will be open for a week, at which point if there is
>> more 

Re: [tw5] Artwork for v5.2.0

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Springer,

 Many thanks! Your mockup is now great! I appreciate all your efforts both
for this mockup and also for hosting the competition art works!
 Kudos gos to you!


Best wishes
Mohammad


On Sun, Jun 27, 2021 at 9:32 PM springer  wrote:

> I've tweaked a *bit* more, and added Mohammad's submission to our gallery
> at:
>
> https://tw-logo-contest.tiddlyhost.com/
>
> -Springer
>
> On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 12:49:06 PM UTC-4 springer wrote:
>
>> Hi all, I had an exchange with Mohammad about the actual graphic file, to
>> which he does not have access.
>>
>> But the work was based on his own sketches, and it's not too hard to
>> replicate after discovering that the font is open-source Saira (google
>> font), apart from the curly brackets, whose font isn't yet clear to me. So
>> here's a rough mockup of Mohammad's design, though I admit I haven't
>> obsessed about replicating all the details:
>>
>> [image: Mohammad's JSON logo mockup.png]
>>
>> On Saturday, June 26, 2021 at 1:56:58 PM UTC-4 Mohammad wrote:
>>
>>> Just to have a little fun in this competition!
>>>
>>> These are my designs, but I'm not sure if they are suitable for the new
>>> release logo!
>>>
>>> [image: image.png]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: img_342_chrome.png]
>>>
>>>
>>> and also!
>>>
>>> [image: img_341_chrome.png]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> Mohammad
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 13, 2021 at 3:44 PM Jeremy Ruston 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 This is to announce our regular competition for the artwork for the
 next release of TiddlyWiki 5. The next release is planned to be called
 v5.2.0, which requires a little explanation.

 We've bumped the minor version number because of a single very
 important change: for the first time in a decade, we're changing the format
 used to encode tiddlers into the HTML file.

 The new format is based on JSON, making it much easier to develop tools
 that produce or consume TW5 standalone HTML files. While there is some
 limited backwards compatibility, the developers of many existing tools will
 need to make modifications to keep things working with v5.2.0.

 Hence the version number change: it's intended to make every developer
 ask "Gosh, what could have changed to warrant such a big jump", and helps
 us to make sure that the news of the change is promulgated as widely and
 prominently as possible.

 The change also brings one big improvement for all users: field names
 now have no restrictions on which characters can be used, and are
 case-sensitive so that "MyField" is a valid fieldname, and refers to a
 different field than "myfield" (just like tiddler titles). Finally, we can
 have fields called "⛄️".

 These changes will be merged shortly, but in the meantime can be
 inspected here:

 https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/5708

 So, with that, back to the artwork competition. The task is to design
 the banner image that is shown on the splash screen and within the opening
 HelloThere tiddler. It is traditional for the artwork to reflect some of
 the changes in the new version.

 The rules for the competition are:

 * The version number (with the correct punctuation) must be clear and
 readable even when the banner is shown at a reduced size
 * The image must be a PNG, JPEG or SVG of exactly 560x315 pixels
 * The bottom 46 pixels will be obscured by the banner text “What’s new
 in 5.2.0” when it is displayed within HelloThere
 * Feel free to enter an updated version of artwork that was a runner-up
 in a previous competition
 * Reply to this message with your entry, or any questions

 Here are the posts about previous artwork competitions:

 v5.1.23 -
 https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/cTgPWl8b_9c/m/VtrMFHBGAwAJ
 v5.1.22 -
 https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/rYrja18_SfQ/m/JAklPfjfAwAJ
 v5.1.21 -
 https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/l47ZZzWdDb8/m/6s0p_3QeCgAJ

 If you’ve got a great idea for the banner image, but don’t have the
 skills to produce finished artwork, do feel free to share your ideas in
 case somebody else would like to work on the artwork.

 The competition will be open for a week, at which point if there is
 more than one submission I’ll set up a Google Form for voting.

 Best wishes and many thanks,

 Jeremy

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Re: [tw5] Re: TW as static site generator in AWS lambda

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Hi Tones,

 Many thanks for sharing! Interesting!


Best wishes
Mohammad


On Sat, Jun 26, 2021 at 4:07 AM TW Tones  wrote:

> Mohammad,
>
> I was looking at AWS recently, but also thought I would make use of local
> storage and changes backup to make the hosted tiddlywiki not appear static.
>
> I discovered also through w3schools.com they now have "spaces", where you
> can also host wikis for free,
> the difference being the URL to your space eg; https://tones.w3spaces.com/
> is only resolved if you are logged in making it ideal for personal spaces.
>
> I have a workflow to commit changes to the wiki that accrue in local
> storage to the index.html all of which I can document in time.
>
> Regards
> Tones
>
> On Saturday, 26 June 2021 at 05:54:11 UTC+10 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> https://twitter.com/philwonski/status/1407419878588440577
>>
>> https://mydigitalmark.com/easily-build-static-html-sites-from-json-with-aws-lambda-and-tiddlywiki/
>>
>> [image: image.png]
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
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Re: [tw5] Re: Tag cloud using colors: idea and issues

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Hi Eric,
 Yes, simpler is always better as long as it works correctly! I like your
solution!
 If I am correct, this code should not update the color field automatically!
 I mean for a tiddler called  *test*, can I use something like this?

\define colorCSS()  rgb($(rgbArg1)$,$(rgbArg1)$,$(rgbArg3)$);
*color* field:   <>

Here the color field shall be updated dynamically!

If so then what Atro has requested can be obtained

<$vars thisSecond={{{ [tag[foo]count[]] }}}  >




On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 11:34 PM Eric Shulman  wrote:

> On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 11:25:23 AM UTC-7 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Is there some other way of getting the result of a filter that's less
>> weird than using TiddlyWiki's triple curly brackets ?
>
> I just threw that together quickly as an example re getting color "
>> *filter*ily(?)"
>> It would be great to see some alternative approaches, I think.
>>
>
> Instead of using filtered transclusion (the tripled curly braces) to
> concatenate values stored in variables, you can use a macro definition,
> like this:
>
> *\define colorCSS() border:25px solid
> rgb($(rgbArg1)$,$(rgbArg1)$,$(rgbArg3)$);*
> <$vars thisSecond=<> >
> <$vars rgbArg1={{{ [multiply[3]] }}} rgbArg3={{{
> [multiply[5]] }}}>
> >*>Some Text
> 
> 
>
> I think this is a much easier syntax to understand and use
>
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Re: [tw5] Tag cloud using colors: idea and issues

[Mohammad Rahmani]

 Jeremy!

Many thanks for clarification!



Best wishes
Mohammad


On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 11:31 PM Jeremy Ruston 
wrote:

> The issue here is that JS macros are supposed to always return the same
> result when passed the same parameters (in computer science terms, JS
> macros are supposed to be deterministic).
>
> It is possible to use JS macros that are non-deterministic, but they will
> cause the refresh mechanism to produce unexpected results.
>
> I can't tell without understanding more about your code, but the solution
> may be refactoring the functionality as either a widget or a filter
> operator.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
>
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>
> On 22 Jun 2021, at 19:53, Mohammad Rahmani 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 4:28 PM Atronoush  wrote:
>
>>
>> There are some tag cloud tools around (e.g. Eric uses size and Mohammad
>> use badge).
>> I like to have tag cloud based on color!
>>
>> IDEA
>> i.  a macro to get a number and generate a color, I call it *colgen*
>> this is easy! in surface plots / contour plots we use color bars! here
>> different color tables can be used in form of macro or dictionary tiddler
>>
>> ii. a variable to calculate the number of tiddlers (e.g using $count)
>> tagged with say *foo*
>>
>> How it works
>> 1. each time a new tiddler is tagged with foo the variable value is
>> increased by one
>> 2. this value is passed to *colgen* macro to generate color
>> 3. this color is dynamically used for tag
>>
>> you can use different color tables/bar for example red for high and blue
>> for low (rainbow color table), ...
>>
>>
>> ISSUE
>> Tiddlywiki allow to use macros and transclusion in fields! BUT it seems
>> it does not allow to change color dynamically!
>>
>
> I think this is a bug! But maybe Jeremy or other developers can explain!
> BUT the below code does not work for me!
>
> <$button> Set Color
> <$action-setfield $tiddler=testc $field=color $value=rgb(255,0,0)/>
> 
>
> or
> <$button> Set Color
> <$action-setfield $tiddler=testc $field=color $value="yellow"/>
> 
>
>>
>>
>> I appreciate to have your idea, solution, codes, ...
>>
>> --Atro
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Re: [tw5] Tag cloud using colors: idea and issues

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Lets correct my previous post!

It seems the color is changed using

<$button> Set Color
<$action-setfield $tiddler=testc $field=color $value=rgb(255,0,0)/>



But as the color field shows a color picker, it seems the color picker does
not update!

Best wishes
Mohammad


On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 11:23 PM Mohammad Rahmani <
mohammad.rahm...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 4:28 PM Atronoush  wrote:
>
>>
>> There are some tag cloud tools around (e.g. Eric uses size and Mohammad
>> use badge).
>> I like to have tag cloud based on color!
>>
>> IDEA
>> i.  a macro to get a number and generate a color, I call it *colgen*
>> this is easy! in surface plots / contour plots we use color bars! here
>> different color tables can be used in form of macro or dictionary tiddler
>>
>> ii. a variable to calculate the number of tiddlers (e.g using $count)
>> tagged with say *foo*
>>
>> How it works
>> 1. each time a new tiddler is tagged with foo the variable value is
>> increased by one
>> 2. this value is passed to *colgen* macro to generate color
>> 3. this color is dynamically used for tag
>>
>> you can use different color tables/bar for example red for high and blue
>> for low (rainbow color table), ...
>>
>>
>> ISSUE
>> Tiddlywiki allow to use macros and transclusion in fields! BUT it seems
>> it does not allow to change color dynamically!
>>
>
> I think this is a bug! But maybe Jeremy or other developers can explain!
> BUT the below code does not work for me!
>
> <$button> Set Color
> <$action-setfield $tiddler=testc $field=color $value=rgb(255,0,0)/>
> 
>
> or
> <$button> Set Color
> <$action-setfield $tiddler=testc $field=color $value="yellow"/>
> 
>
>>
>>
>> I appreciate to have your idea, solution, codes, ...
>>
>> --Atro
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Re: [tw5] Tag cloud using colors: idea and issues

[Mohammad Rahmani]

On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 4:28 PM Atronoush  wrote:

>
> There are some tag cloud tools around (e.g. Eric uses size and Mohammad
> use badge).
> I like to have tag cloud based on color!
>
> IDEA
> i.  a macro to get a number and generate a color, I call it *colgen*
> this is easy! in surface plots / contour plots we use color bars! here
> different color tables can be used in form of macro or dictionary tiddler
>
> ii. a variable to calculate the number of tiddlers (e.g using $count)
> tagged with say *foo*
>
> How it works
> 1. each time a new tiddler is tagged with foo the variable value is
> increased by one
> 2. this value is passed to *colgen* macro to generate color
> 3. this color is dynamically used for tag
>
> you can use different color tables/bar for example red for high and blue
> for low (rainbow color table), ...
>
>
> ISSUE
> Tiddlywiki allow to use macros and transclusion in fields! BUT it seems it
> does not allow to change color dynamically!
>

I think this is a bug! But maybe Jeremy or other developers can explain!
BUT the below code does not work for me!

<$button> Set Color
<$action-setfield $tiddler=testc $field=color $value=rgb(255,0,0)/>


or
<$button> Set Color
<$action-setfield $tiddler=testc $field=color $value="yellow"/>


>
>
> I appreciate to have your idea, solution, codes, ...
>
> --Atro
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[tw5] Awesome Tiddlywiki Example

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Tweeted by @OffrayLC on
https://twitter.com/offrayLC/status/1405947061787312130?s=20
a #Starforged character sheet done in @TiddlyWiki.

See it here: https://mutabit.com/repos.fossil/502Lab/uv/wiki/502Lab.html#


Best wishes
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Re: [tw5] Re: Unrestricted field names... an implied use case

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Hi Jeremy,

Thank you for your clarification!

Best wishes
Mohammad

On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 2:23 PM Jeremy Ruston 
wrote:

> One thing to bear in mind is that the core has always supported
> unrestricted fieldnames for almost all operations. The primary thing that's
> changing now is that the switch to the JSON store area allows us to
> guarantee that arbitrary fieldnames will be respected over a
> save-and-reload cycle. The secondary thing is the removal of the very weak
> protections against creating fieldnames containing arbitrary characters.
>
> Perhaps there a relatively small number of usecases for complex
> fieldnames, but some of those use cases are powerful and so seem important.
> But even in the absence of important use cases, a very important benefit is
> that unrestricted fieldnames make TiddlyWiki significantly simpler to
> explain. Every little arbitrary restriction or caveat adds to the
> conceptual load for people learning TiddlyWiki.
>
> For me, one of the most important consequences is that we can encode
> variable name/value pairs as fields. For example, in the new publishing
> framework that is under development we represent a publishing job as a
> configuration tiddler that specifies the template to be used, the filter
> identifying the tiddlers to be output, and a collection of variables to be
> provided to the rendering. The variables are expressed as fields named
> "var-foo", where "foo" is the name of the variable, and the field value is
> the value for the variable.
>
> It's a simple and flexible approach that wouldn't be possible without
> loosening the restrictions on field names.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
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>
> On 17 Jun 2021, at 10:42, Mohammad Rahmani 
> wrote:
>
> Like Mario, for me it is not clear what will be the benefit to have such
> liberty in naming fields!
> I think Tiddlywiki is growing organically! Sometimes you need to see good
> and consistent logic to be able to write better code to understand and
> maintain!
> So, while I am not against the new feature in TW 5.2.0 but I really like
> it, we are going toward a more consistent, easier to learn and easier to
> maintain grammar and syntax!
>
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 11:27 AM PMario  wrote:
>
>> Let me be more specific eg:
>>
>> >So, the field values could be a relationship between the current tiddler
>> and those other tiddlers. For example:
>> >
>> >title: Adam
>> >Barbara:mother
>> >Caesar:father
>> >David:friend
>>
>> You mentioned that having upper-case letters in the field names can help
>> to solve the "relationship problem". ..
>>
>> I ask: Where is the difference from a setting below and your suggestion?
>>
>> title: adam
>> barbara: mother
>> caesar: father
>> david: friend
>>
>> There is no difference. The setting in the example has been there since
>> v5.1.0 .. and the problem isn't solved. ...
>> So as I wrote: Having more possibilities in the field names won't solve
>> anything. Sorry.
>>
>> -mario
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Re: [tw5] Re: Unrestricted field names... an implied use case

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Like Mario, for me it is not clear what will be the benefit to have such
liberty in naming fields!
I think Tiddlywiki is growing organically! Sometimes you need to see good
and consistent logic to be able to write better code to understand and
maintain!
So, while I am not against the new feature in TW 5.2.0 but I really like
it, we are going toward a more consistent, easier to learn and easier to
maintain grammar and syntax!



Best wishes
Mohammad


On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 11:27 AM PMario  wrote:

> Let me be more specific eg:
>
> >So, the field values could be a relationship between the current tiddler
> and those other tiddlers. For example:
> >
> >title: Adam
> >Barbara:mother
> >Caesar:father
> >David:friend
>
> You mentioned that having upper-case letters in the field names can help
> to solve the "relationship problem". ..
>
> I ask: Where is the difference from a setting below and your suggestion?
>
> title: adam
> barbara: mother
> caesar: father
> david: friend
>
> There is no difference. The setting in the example has been there since
> v5.1.0 .. and the problem isn't solved. ...
> So as I wrote: Having more possibilities in the field names won't solve
> anything. Sorry.
>
> -mario
>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Presenting GG2TW Beta, a method to convert Google Groups Conversations to TW JSON Tids

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Great job! Really useful!

I am thinking how we can automatically convert code sections into code
blocks and tagify posts?


Keep going on!



Best wishes
Mohammad


On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 5:30 AM Finn Lancaster  wrote:

> Fixed the illegible text issue! I added a few replace() and got rid of the
> method to escape I was using. Just tested the TW import, and works
> perfectly! Of course, this could all change if there happens to be a
> character that the program doesn't escape somewhere in the GG. However, I
> deem this rare, as I don't think there are any chars that I've forgot. Keep
> me informed of any issues; I intend to make the UI better soon.
>
> P.S.: I have encountered a crash in Chrome upon running the program. If
> anyone else has the issue, it is the program. So far, however, I'm thinking
> it's just my PC, as Chrome doesn't seem to like my outdated Linux version :)
>
> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 9:50:36 PM UTC-4 Finn Lancaster wrote:
>
>> Yes. The 90 into 28 is taking into account responses to the
>> conversations, which will lower the count. GG just likes to make things
>> difficult, so it split them all up. Since the loading thing was not planned
>> for at first, I just connected it to my counter variable that is added to
>> after every successful request, hence the 90. In the code, there is an if
>> statement with a comment "code goes here." In the future, this part will
>> deal with the repeats.
>>
>> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 8:59:51 PM UTC-4 strikke...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Random chars as you also found. But that was not the only thing. 90 of
>>> 90 conversations ended up in 28 imported tiddlers.
>>>
>>> The good news is that it kind of worked - as I am using a low end 12
>>> year old laptop with 8 gb ram.
>>>
>>> Birthe
>>> On Monday, June 14, 2021 at 2:39:23 AM UTC+2 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Huh. Mine always glitches-out before TW successfully imports, so I've
 never seen the actual output in TW. I'd always assumed it would have no
 issues, since I've run the code through various JSON-checking sites, and it
 has been labeled valid. Were the words legible with just random chars in
 between, or was it just a jumble?

 On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 7:36:17 PM UTC-4 strikke...@gmail.com
 wrote:

> I did get 90/90 conversations - it really did not take that long.I
> exported the json and tried to drag and drop it into my tiddlywiki. It
> worked - but totally unreadable.
>
> Still it is exciting news. What a good idea you had.
>
> Birthe
> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 10:37:35 PM UTC+2 flanc...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Strange, it works for me. I added a loading message telling of how
>> many conversations were successfully loaded. If it stays at 0/90, then it
>> is truly an issue. Possibly it was just taking a long time (takes around 
>> a
>> minute generally to fully finish, I find.) Let me know if it helps you!
>>
>> *Another idea could be to clear history, cookies, etc. for all time,
>> and try again. If this works, it is an issue with the CORS proxy API I am
>> using. *
>>
>> To address Mat, yes, it does scrape the GG FIRST page (1-90
>> conversations, but some repeats). The output is an array of valid JSON
>> data, which is recognized by TW as JSON tiddlers, and TW will then import
>> them (drag and drop works best).
>>
>> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 1:42:35 PM UTC-4 TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>>> Ciao flanc...
>>>
>>> The idea sounds neat! Unfortunately nothing happens for me :-(. I
>>> get this but no results appear on click ... :-( ...
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: Screenshot 2021-06-13 194045.jpg]
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> TT
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Re: [tw5] Re: Shiraz plugin new release 2.3.0

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Thank you Si,

No problem! your feedback is much appreciated!



Best wishes
Mohammad


On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 8:06 PM Si  wrote:

> Hi Mohammed,
>
> Sorry I didn't see this original reply so I only responded to your second
> comment!
>
> >>> Maybe we can have a "sweat tweak" plugin ;-) to include such things?
> >>> I think these are:
> >>> - two column story river
> >>> - colorful tabs
> >>> - colorful view toolbars and hide/show on mouse hover
>
> Yes I personally think that this would be better. The original Shiraz for
> "Macros for creating stylish content in TiddlyWiki", and a new plugin for
> "Theme tweaks" (e.g. light/dark mode, colorful sidebar tabs etc). I think
> that narrower categorisation will make it easier for new users to grasp how
> they can apply these tools.
>
> That's just my opinion - I will continue to use Shiraz regardless, and I
> appreciate the work you have put in to all your plugins!
>
> On Sunday, 6 June 2021 at 15:34:43 UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Hi Si,
>>  Many thanks for your comments!
>> Ideas and opinions are always welcome !
>> Sure I note this and will consider it in the next release!
>> Maybe we can have a "sweat tweak" plugin ;-) to include such things?
>> I think these are:
>> - two column story river
>> - colorful tabs
>> - colorful view toolbars and hide/show on mouse hover
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 5:06 PM si  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Mohammed,
>>>
>>
>>> I've been using Shiraz for a while now, and its super amazing and
>>> useful, however I have noticed that it has some features that feel like
>>> they should belong in a separate plugin.
>>>
>>> Specifically there are a few features that don't have much do do with
>>> creating stylish content, and more what I would consider "theme tweaks".
>>> For example:
>>>
>>>- Colorify sidebar tabs
>>>- Button for light/dark mode
>>>- Tiddler visibility on mouse hover
>>>
>>> I am referring essentially to everything under the Shiraz settings tab.
>>> These are all extremely useful tools, but I just think they diverge quite
>>> far from your description of Shiraz:
>>>
>>> >>> Shiraz is a small framework of stylesheets, templates and macros to
>>> create stylish contents in Tiddlywiki.
>>>
>>> Currently if a user installs Shiraz, they will also find that their wiki
>>> theming has been tweaked, and will have to go to the settings tab if they
>>> want to turn everything off. In my opinion it would make more sense to
>>> these tweaks into a separate plugin so that the user can choose whether or
>>> not to install them.
>>>
>>> I hope this doesn't sound critical, as Shiraz is one of my favourite TW
>>> plugins. It's just my personal opinion and I'm curious if there is a logic
>>> to including theme tweaks and styling macros as part of the same plugin
>>> that I am not seeing?
>>>
>> On Tuesday, 11 May 2021 at 09:30:08 UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:
>>>
>> Shiraz plugin has just got a new update!

 Shiraz is a small framework of stylesheets, templates and macros to
 create stylish contents in Tiddlywiki. Shiraz has customized elements
 like alerts, cards, panels, images, static tables, dynamic tables, badges,
 texts, etc. Shiraz uses some modified CSS classes from Bootstrap 4.3.1.

 Code and demo

- Demo: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz
- Code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz

 *It is highly recommended to backup your data before trying any new
 plugin! Do it before installing shiraz*.
 Revision 2.3.0


- Date: [10th May 2021]
- [NEW] Palette switch on the page controls
- [NEW] Setting for default light and dark (or dim) palette (see
Sidebar More Tab, Shiraz)
- [NEW] Slider macro accepts tiddler title as source (src) and
extracts the text automatically
- [NEW] Details macro accepts tiddler title as source (src) and
extracts the text automatically
- [FIXED] small type in card-image macro



 If you like it star it at https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz



 Best wishes
 Mohammad

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Re: [tw5] Re: Artwork for v5.2.0

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Hi Springer!

I love your artwork! very nice!

Minor comments:
1. Why not host the image on
https://tw-logo-contest.tiddlyhost.com/#unleash-your-fields and why use
dropbox?
2. I remember you have hosted artworks for 5.1.23, it is good to see them
on https://tw-logo-contest.tiddlyhost.com/#unleash-your-fields
3. It is good to have
https://tw-logo-contest.tiddlyhost.com/#unleash-your-fields for past and
future artworks competitions all in one place this not only archive all
previous efforts but also give ideas to other contributors



Best wishes
Mohammad


On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 1:02 AM springer  wrote:

> Here's a hasty concept-logo to kick things off, also visible at site:
> https://tw-logo-contest.tiddlyhost.com/#unleash-your-fields
>
> [image: unleash_your_fields.jpg]
>
> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 4:13:44 PM UTC-4 jeremy...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi Mat
>>
>> The artwork needs to show "v5.2.0" (including the "v"!), because there
>> will  be a "v5.2.1" at some point, potentially quite soon, and it's
>> important for everybody to be able to unambiguously distinguish the
>> versions. Stated another way, this is not version '5.2', this is version
>> '5.2.0'.
>>
>> I'd also say that perhaps designs based on the shapes of the letters
>> might be a bit generic. I think the opportunity is to try to capture what
>> is in the release, not just the string of numbers we use to refer to it.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy.
>>
>>
>> --
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>> jer...@jermolene.com
>> https://jermolene.com
>>
>> On 13 Jun 2021, at 20:02, Mat  wrote:
>>
>> Oooh I just got two cool ideas! Anyone skilled, feel free to create:
>>
>> First depends on if it is OK with "5.2" (see my previous question). Those
>> two digits have a very similar shape! I think it should be possible to make
>> some kind of mirror reflection to have one show the other.
>>
>> Second idea uses that new feature with freely named fields. So the design
>> idea is to simply make the string "TiddlyWiki 5.2.0" as a field! E.g the
>> "TiddlyWiki 5" as the field name and the "2.0" as the field value. Should
>> the garbage can that deletes the field be next to it?...
>>
>> <:-)
>> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 8:08:15 PM UTC+2 Mat wrote:
>>
>>> Freely naming of fields will be fantastic! It will give fields a much
>>> more prominent position because they can be used directly as connections to
>>> actual tiddlers. Great progress!
>>>
>>> @Jeremy can the artwork treat the version number as 5.2 (i.e without .0
>>> at end)? I don't have a particular idea but I imagine it will be easier to
>>> come up with ideas for fewer digits.
>>>
>>> <:-)
>>>
>>> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 1:14:17 PM UTC+2 Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>>
 This is to announce our regular competition for the artwork for the
 next release of TiddlyWiki 5. The next release is planned to be called
 v5.2.0, which requires a little explanation.

 We've bumped the minor version number because of a single very
 important change: for the first time in a decade, we're changing the format
 used to encode tiddlers into the HTML file.

 The new format is based on JSON, making it much easier to develop tools
 that produce or consume TW5 standalone HTML files. While there is some
 limited backwards compatibility, the developers of many existing tools will
 need to make modifications to keep things working with v5.2.0.

 Hence the version number change: it's intended to make every developer
 ask "Gosh, what could have changed to warrant such a big jump", and helps
 us to make sure that the news of the change is promulgated as widely and
 prominently as possible.

 The change also brings one big improvement for all users: field names
 now have no restrictions on which characters can be used, and are
 case-sensitive so that "MyField" is a valid fieldname, and refers to a
 different field than "myfield" (just like tiddler titles). Finally, we can
 have fields called "⛄️".

 These changes will be merged shortly, but in the meantime can be
 inspected here:

 https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/5708

 So, with that, back to the artwork competition. The task is to design
 the banner image that is shown on the splash screen and within the opening
 HelloThere tiddler. It is traditional for the artwork to reflect some of
 the changes in the new version.

 The rules for the competition are:

 * The version number (with the correct punctuation) must be clear and
 readable even when the banner is shown at a reduced size
 * The image must be a PNG, JPEG or SVG of exactly 560x315 pixels
 * The bottom 46 pixels will be obscured by the banner text “What’s new
 in 5.2.0” when it is displayed within HelloThere
 * Feel free to enter an updated version of artwork that was a runner-up
 in a previous competition
 * Reply to this message with your entry, or any 

Re: [tw5] Re: Shiraz plugin new release 2.3.0

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Thank you for your comment Si. I will revise the description in the next
release!
In its original form Shiraz is a small CSS and macro framework! but later
on it extended to cover tables. images, etc...

Best wishes
Mohammad


On Sun, Jun 13, 2021 at 9:31 PM Si  wrote:

> >>> The reason was: all those tweaks are done using simple css! nothing
> else!
>
> Yes, and its very cool! I'm just saying that I don't understand the logic
> of keeping it all in one plugin. A plugin that just contains "Things that
> use CSS" seems a little broad to me, and doesn't tell you much about the
> actual purpose of the plugin?
>
> On Sunday, 6 June 2021 at 15:38:17 UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 5:06 PM si  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Mohammad,
>>>
>>> I've been using Shiraz for a while now, and its super amazing and
>>> useful, however I have noticed that it has some features that feel like
>>> they should belong in a separate plugin.
>>>
>>> Specifically there are a few features that don't have much do do with
>>> creating stylish content, and more what I would consider "theme tweaks".
>>> For example:
>>>
>>>- Colorify sidebar tabs
>>>- Button for light/dark mode
>>>- Tiddler visibility on mouse hover
>>>
>>> I am referring essentially to everything under the Shiraz settings tab.
>>> These are all extremely useful tools, but I just think they diverge quite
>>> far from your description of Shiraz: "Shiraz is a small framework of
>>> stylesheets, templates and macros to create stylish contents in Tiddlywiki."
>>>
>>> Currently if a user installs Shiraz, they will also find that their wiki
>>> theming has been tweaked, and will have to go to the settings tab if they
>>> want to turn everything off. In my opinion it would make more sense to
>>> these tweaks into a separate plugin so that the user can choose whether or
>>> not to install them.
>>>
>>> I hope this doesn't sound critical, as Shiraz is one of my favourite TW
>>> plugins.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> It's just my personal opinion and I'm curious if there is a logic to
>>> including theme tweaks and styling macros as part of the same plugin that I
>>> am not seeing?
>>>
>>
>> The reason was: all those tweaks are done using simple css! nothing else!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, 11 May 2021 at 09:30:08 UTC+1 Mohammad wrote:
>>>
 Shiraz plugin has just got a new update!

 Shiraz is a small framework of stylesheets, templates and macros to
 create stylish contents in Tiddlywiki. Shiraz has customized elements
 like alerts, cards, panels, images, static tables, dynamic tables, badges,
 texts, etc. Shiraz uses some modified CSS classes from Bootstrap 4.3.1.

 Code and demo

- Demo: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz
- Code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz

 *It is highly recommended to backup your data before trying any new
 plugin! Do it before installing shiraz*.
 Revision 2.3.0


- Date: [10th May 2021]
- [NEW] Palette switch on the page controls
- [NEW] Setting for default light and dark (or dim) palette (see
Sidebar More Tab, Shiraz)
- [NEW] Slider macro accepts tiddler title as source (src) and
extracts the text automatically
- [NEW] Details macro accepts tiddler title as source (src) and
extracts the text automatically
- [FIXED] small type in card-image macro



 If you like it star it at https://github.com/kookma/TW-Shiraz



 Best wishes
 Mohammad

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Re: [tw5] Re: Building a book/blog webpage -- is TW5 right for it?

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Hi James,
Your workflow is popular, if you look at the forum you will find many posts
about it!
So, I may propose with the advent of many new features in 5.1.2x it is
worth updating the workflow!

Best wishes
Mohammad


On Sun, Jun 13, 2021 at 6:08 PM James Anderson 
wrote:

> I wrote a static blog exporter several years back for TW
>
> explanation of it here:
> http://welford.github.io/twstaticblog/example/example.html
> which itself exports to:
> http://welford.github.io/twstaticblog/example/blog-styled/index.html
> and
> http://welford.github.io/twstaticblog/example/blog-basic/index.html
>
> i also use it for my personal blog here http://www.phasersonkill.com/
>
> The thing is pretty flexible once you have it setup, most of what you want
> could be achieved. " a sort of carousel widget with single sections from
> the book, with arrows left and right to flip through them." might require a
> little extra work though.
>
> On Saturday, 12 June 2021 at 14:45:19 UTC+1 TW Tones wrote:
>
>> As much as I value WordPress my personal belief is tiddlywiki would  be
>> ideal, I would start with others book style wikis to get going.
>>
>> I understand the value of static websites for search may be valuable
>> however the interactive wiki offers much more. The compromise would be a
>> static site on which every page link opens  the interactive wiki, add a
>> splash screen to inform them you are loading the whole book for easy search.
>>
>> I started building a template to support this but not completed it yet.
>> Hopefully someone has done it and can share a revised template for its
>> export.
>> If you can serve a node implementation securely on the internet would be
>> better and it can automatically serve both static and interactive content.
>>
>> By the way 70,000 words with an average length 490,000 characters, Not
>> even half a Megabyte is trivial, I have happily used 6-12Mb single file
>> wikis without any concern.
>>
>> Tones
>>
>> On Friday, 11 June 2021 at 23:03:06 UTC+10 iamdar...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hello!
>>>
>>> As much as I love TiddlyWiki and think it could work for your use cases,
>>> I feel I would be remiss to not point out another option: *WordPress*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, June 11, 2021 at 7:37:42 AM UTC-4 David Gifford wrote:
>>>
 Hi Kosmaton

 You could use TiddlyWiki in node.js, and export and upload tiddlers to
 your free webhosting service as static htmls, no database needed. With some
 CSS, you could design it as you wish, in a way that it doesn't look
 TiddlyWiki-ish, and there are plugins to make the layout mobile-friendly.
 The book page, home page and news page are all doable. The book page could
 be handled with details elements (HTML, not the details widget plugin) and
 transclusions. So yes, everything you mentioned can be done.

 Alternately, you could do the same with a regular standalone TW
 uploaded to your free webhosting service. Doing it as a standalone means
 the opening page would not load as quickly as a small static html page, but
 most people wouldn't notice the difference, and it would give you many more
 options for how to handle the book page, for example the table of contents
 feature in TiddlyWiki.

 What might not work, though I may be wrong, is having a user comments
 section, but then you did not mention that. I know there is at least one
 user comments plugin, but I haven't played with it.

 On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 3:28:54 PM UTC-5 Kosmaton wrote:

> Hello Tiddly people,
>
> I'm meaning to create a new website, and I'd like to ask your opinion
> whether TiddlyWiki is the right tool (or one of the tools) for it.
>
> I used to have a pre-TW5 site on TiddlySpace back in the day. I'm
> semi-programming-and-webdesign-literate, in an ad hoc and rusty way. No
> experience with databases unfortunately, which may be relevant.
>
> The website I have in mind would be a combination of a non-fiction
> book (already written, but expandable/changeable), and an associated blog.
> The book is organized as a big tree of numbered paragraphs/sections: 1,
> 1.1, 1.1.1, 1.2, 2, 2.1 etc. These sections frequently refer to one
> another; it's a hypertext in itself.
>
> * The site would mainly need to have:
>
> 1) a page that displays the book, with a Table of Contents.
>   - The TOC should be hideable as a whole.
>   - The branches of the TOC should be collapsible, i.e. click on 1 to
> show 1.1 and 1.2, click again to hide them, etc.
>   - It may be excessive to load all the text of the book (all the
> sections) into the viewport (some 70,000 words). But it would be nice if
> the reader saw a bit more than just the section they're currently reading.
> Basically a pdf-reader-like experience would be good.
>   - optional: Sections of the book may get revisions, and the visitor
> 

Re: [tw5] Re: [TW5] PrintRiver plugin

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Hi Simon,

 This is a must have plugin! Thank you for all your efforts!

I wish to have this into the core!

I can only give one star and I did! but I like to give 100 stars!

For idea/comments do you prefer Forum or GitHub?



Best wishes
Mohammad


On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 7:34 PM BurningTreeC 
wrote:

> Oh, and leave me a Star on GitHub
>  if you like it :)
>
> BurningTreeC schrieb am Freitag, 11. Juni 2021 um 17:03:14 UTC+2:
>
>> Hello TiddlyWiki community,
>>
>> The new PrintRiver plugin is online :)
>>
>> You can find it at https://burningtreec.github.io/tiddlywiki-printriver/
>>
>> As always, I'm open for ideas, criticism and bug reports
>>
>> Best wishes, BTC
>>
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Re: [tw5] Fields vs Dictionary vs JSON

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Ed,
 I myself love JSON and dictionary tiddlers as they are very handy, compact
and encapsulate things in one pack!
On the other hand, it seems Jeremy supports using fields as first
class citizens in Tiddlywiki!
Also, it seems *TW  5.2.0* is coming  soon and it supports field names with
almost all characters! So the restrictions on field names will be lifted!


This is my 2 cents! But, let the developers come and advise!



Best wishes
Mohammad


On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 9:40 PM Ed Heil  wrote:

> Right now I'm working on a project where a number of tiddlers are just
> little chunks of key-value data.  I'm putting them in JSONTiddlers, because
> that seems to be what tiddlers turn into naturally when I start setting
> data on their indices.
>
> I just noticed that there's a nice thing available for tiddlers which are
> collections of *fields* as opposed to using indices, and that's:
>
> [field:foo] which gives you all the tiddlers whose foo field is equal
> to the value of the variable "bar".  There's not a simple equivalent with
> indices as far as I know, you have to cobble together a filter with
> [filter[]] or the new :filter prefix.
>
> Obviously with fields you're more limited in the names of keys -- keys can
> be any string in data tiddlers, but only lowercase, "-", "_", and "." for
> fields. And obviously there are reserved names for fields, like "text",
> that are not reserved for data tiddlers.
>
> I *think* I made the right choice going with a data tiddler for my little
> blobs of data, but that nice [field[]] filter operator made me wonder.
>
> Just wanted to throw the question open to the community:  If you've used
> tiddlers as blobs of key-value data, and made the choice between using the
> fields in a normal tiddler, and using a data tiddler, what considerations
> factored into your decision?  Do you have any rules of thumb?
>
> I'm not asking because of a particular decision I need to make, I'm more
> curious about the general question.
>
> (Oh, secondarily: any reason to choose one or the other of Dictionary vs
> JSON?  They seem to do pretty much the same job to me.)
>
> Thanks!
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Re: [tw5] Re: Shiraz list-content (experimental)

[Mohammad Rahmani]

On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 2:34 AM Saq Imtiaz  wrote:

Hi Saq,


This is neat. I quite like it.


Thank you!

> Is performance an issue if there are too many results?
>

Well yes! Especially when the tiddlers themselves are long and have
manythings to render!


> On Friday, June 4, 2021 at 6:14:28 PM UTC+2 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Shiraz has a list-search which is very handy and list filtered tiddlers
>> with a search box lets you search in results!
>> Shiraz has a lot of features that lets you create new tools with more
>> ease!
>>
>> I have implemented another list macro called list-content! BUT I'm not
>> sure if it has already been published (introduced) by another
>> user/developer!
>>
>> The list-content is actually a search box, but instead of displaying
>> titles, it displays the tiddler with its content!
>>
>> As soon as it find any results it shows
>>
>> 1. each result as a Card
>> 2. The resulting tiddler is displayed with title, subtitle, tags and text
>> 3. It is possible to have multi column result or truncate the text and
>> show part of text
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
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