[tw] Re: 2nd, content-only timeline (but keep the 'full' one)

2010-10-30 Thread Plausible
Hi Tobias,

That certainly looks more elegant, but I can't get it to work. First I
got a macro error, found [1] and accordingly changed

config.macros.myTimeline.handler = function(place,macroName,params)

to

config.macros.myTimeline.handler =
function(place,macroName,params,wikifier,paramString)

and

p = params.parseParams(null,null,true);

to

p = paramString.parseParams(null,null,true);

which fixed that error but results in the macro evaluating to a blank.
I don't really know the function of params vs paramString, nor how to
debug/show what ends up in 'inc'. Can you figure it out?

cheers,

~P

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Also, for later readers' reference: it seems that the tabs macro
now no longer resides directly in SideBarTabs (cf Eric's step (10))
but in Backstage _via_ SideBarTabs.

[1] http://tiddlywiki.org/wiki/Dev:Custom_Macros#Getting_Parameters


On Oct 27, 3:21 pm, Tobias Beer beertob...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hi P,

 You can much simplify your codebits. Personally I would do it like
 this using named parameters instead of the params array as a whole...

 //at the beginning of your handler declare
 var tgs,
 p=paramString.parseParams(null,null,true),
 inc=getParam(p,'include','').readBracketedList(),
 ex=getParam(p,'exclude','').readBracketedList();

 //Later... get tags and check them...
 tgs=tiddler.tags||[];
 if(
         !tgs.containsAny(inc)||
         tgs.containsAny(ex)
 )continue;

 So your macro would read...

  myhistory
         include:'this tag [[or that]] tag'
         exclude:'excludeHistory'
  

 Cheers, Tobias

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[tw] Re: 2nd, content-only timeline (but keep the 'full' one)

2010-10-27 Thread Plausible
Thanks for explaining in detail, Eric!

It didn't do exactly what I wanted: have appropriately tagged tiddlers
to be (uniquely) included in the custom timeline rather than excluded
from it; and using multiple tags rather than one.

Some Javascript-guessing and -browsing later I got it to work:

replace

var myTag=params.shift();

by

var nr_params = params.length;
var myTag = [];
for(var i=0; inr_params; i++) {
myTag[i] = params.shift();
}

and replace

if (tiddler.isTagged(myTag)) continue;

by

var belongs = false;
for (var i=0; inr_params; i++) {
if (tiddler.isTagged(myTag[i])) belongs = true;
}
if (belongs == false) continue;

And now myTimeline contenttype1 contenttype2 contenttype3 looks
pretty as pie. :)

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[tw] 2nd, content-only timeline (but keep the 'full' one)

2010-10-26 Thread Plausible
At

http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/c6ac266d68bb14d9/247d1ae0768776d8?lnk=raotfwc=1

there's talk of filtering system-y stuff out of the timeline. I can't
get either of the proposed options to work:
* my issue with ExcludeTimelinePlugin is explained in that thread;
* BetterTimelineMacro gives me a macro error if I add anything other
than 'better:true' in timeline (i.e. can't specify which tag to
include/exclude)

But in fact I'd like to keep the timeline as it's handy for tinkering
with systems stuff. Instead I'd like my default right-hand panel tab
to be an extra timeline which only lists tiddlers that have a tag from
a set I provide.

I don't know: would that be easier/harder than 'patching' the default
timeline by plugin?

cheers,

~P

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[tw] Re: activity and followSuggestions errors

2010-10-24 Thread Plausible
 What browser are you using?

FF3.6.10

 What space is this occurring in? (Can I have a look myself? - user is
 jon if required)

hal.tiddlyspace.com; you can now login.

I don't get the followSuggestions error any more; instead it now
says please wait... seemingly indefinitely.

thanks,

~P

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[tw] Re: Public TSpace layout: comments area + edit box colours

2010-10-24 Thread Plausible
Hi Colm,

 You can change the CSS for the edit box when in read only mode by
 adding something similar to the following to the StyleSheetTiddler
 tiddler
 .editor textarea.readOnly {
         color: #fff;
 }

 This will change the colour of the text to white.

Getting no change with that, I'm afraid (I did reload the space)...?

 Out of interest is it you that has altered the ColorPalette to have a
 dark colour as TertiaryPale? Or was it the color palette generator?

I changed the ColorPalette by hand. It's a bit of an inversion of the
intended use, I guess.

 I'm not intimately aware of how the styling of the comments plugin
 works but I try and have a look for you

That'd be swell. Thanks!

~P

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[tw] Public TSpace layout: comments area + edit box colours

2010-10-21 Thread Plausible
Hello,

I created a new space to serve as my public area for TW stuff:
hal.tiddlyspace.com/#About

1) I have a near-black 'TertiaryPale' for a dark right-hand menu. This
also makes the edit view box unreadable. Can I either change the text
colour in the edit view, or dissociate the right-hand menu background
colour from the edit box background colour?

2) Trying to optimise for a small screen, I messed a bit with
StyleSheetCommentsPlugin and CommentsPlugin. 3 issues:
- how to centre that 'Add comment' button vertically and horizontally
next to the comment box?
- There's a lot of empty space above the commen...@... box. Can this
be reduced?
- reiterating from an earlier post: is it possible to make the whole
comment area a slider thing, hidden by default? (Yet ideally, it
should be displayed if comments are present already.)

thanks, ~P (as new to HTML/CSS as to TW)

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[tw] activity and followSuggestions errors

2010-10-21 Thread Plausible
I may have messed up my include of the 'following' space... I can
follow spaces OK, but in the Following side tab I get:

All spaces tagged follow
* this
* and
* that

please wait..
Error in macro followSuggestions

For activity in my News tiddler I get:

please wait while we load your stream...

indefinitely.

Any ideas for a fix? Thanks,

~P

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[tw] Re: INTRO: JAMMP Jit Another Mind Map Plugin

2010-10-20 Thread Plausible
Really cool. Some ideas/requests:

1) Would it be possible to display forward links? If I start from
tiddler A then show links to all tiddlers which A mentions. This would
be super handy to e.g. start with a journal entry and then explore
what you wrote about on that day.

2) Ideally there would be both backlinks and forward links. So I can
see that 10 July mentions X, Y and Z (forward); but I also see that
X is also mentioned by 21 May (backward); etc.

3) Could be nice to have a dropdown list to choose the central tiddler
from.

thanks! ~P

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[tw] Re: Extending TagSearch / Tagging

2010-10-19 Thread Plausible
Hello Tobias,

 I would never have TagSearchPlugin create any tiddler for which there
 is an entry in some section in TagSearchConfig. It is up to the user
 to do that.

Why not though? If one wants a dozen '1st class' tags which carry the
same category tag (e.g. Jan, Feb, ... all tagged 'Month'), it is
tedious to give that category tag to each of them by hand. Consider
that with a number of categories... I figure it could be much quicker
to write a list of the whole structure and generate tiddlers and tags
automatically from that.

 So, TagSearchConfig along with an implementation of your idea would in
 its most simple form look like this...

 !Tags
 Planet
 RocketType
 !Priority
 high
 low
 !More
 sysTag
 strayThought

 And the corresponding macro call like this...
 tagsearch source:TagSearchConfig##Tags more:TagSearchConfig##More
 cats:TagSearchConfig

Well, this still puts categories (Planet, RocketType) on the same
syntactical level as category values (high, low) and 'independent'
tags. Likewise a category can be a section heading (Priority, More --
'More' also seems a kind of category) or not (Planets, RocketType). It
may work code-wise but it's hard to grasp for the end user, I think.

Maybe I'm fundamentally misunderstanding this.

 Thus, it is not evident that all of the config stuff you want to use
 comes from one tiddler, which is especially true if you actually
 wanted different sections but only one config tiddler, e.g.

 tagsearch source:TagSearchConfig##TagList2 cats:TagSearchConfig

 It could however be simplified such that you could say...
 tagsearch config:TagSearchConfig

The simplification would be handy. But I see your reason for using the
params. I don't know how to combine that with the syntax change I'm
thinking of above... is it possible to nest sections?

cheers, ~P

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[tw] QuickEdit_link on TS error in Firefox, not in Chrome?

2010-10-19 Thread Plausible
Hello,

I have the TiddlyTools QuickEdit toolbar installed on my TiddlySpace.
Works fine in general. But when in FF3.6 I try to use the 'link'
button (QuickEdit_link) to insert a link I get an error message:

error during local file access: Error: A script from http://
MySpaceName.tiddlyspace.com was denied UniversalXPConnect privileges.

However in Chrome this doesn't happen; things work as intended.

Not sure this is really a FF/Chrome difference - maybe it's just my
settings which are different in each. Any ideas where to look? Thanks,
~P

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[tw] Re: Extending TagSearch / Tagging

2010-10-19 Thread Plausible
 Maybe there is some misunderstanding. If a tag that you want to use in
 TagSearch - pertaining to some category - doesn't exist yet ...then
 that would not prevent it from being displayed in the TagSearch
 interface.

 Instead, they would look like tiddlyLinks to non existing tiddlers,
 yet you could use the checkbox to assign them as tags ...

Yeah, I sort of figured it out... so the /categories/ under !Tags can
be tiddlers, or ghost tiddlers, or just tiddler-less words: either is
fine. Same for the /tags/ under !More. However the options within a
category must be a tiddler each (so that they can tag to the
category).

So my suggestion was to allow for options within a category that are
just tiddler-less words. And (if I'm not mistaken) that's what you
propose to answer with e.g. the cats: addition. I bet that would work;
yet for the newbie wanting to write their TagSearchConfig it might
still be confusing for the syntax-related reason I mentioned. I.e.
there's a visual conflation of tags that are 'single-level' (e.g.
Talks in http://tobibeer.tiddlyspace.com/#TagSearchConfig) and tags
that are a category for other tags (e.g. Contributions).

I'm sure you'll sort it out :)

 The important reasons for not overcomplicating the code by
 automatically creating some tiddlers while others not are the
 following...

Right, yes, I can see the rationale here.

 A simple option might be to have a little helper script...

 I wouldn't know about your coding experiences, but that would be a
 neat little task for a first hand experience with some (TW) javascript

Right now I mainly just want to get my TW-unrelated TSpace working.
Can't afford to pick up javascript now; but it's interesting so I may
give it a shot at a later date.

cheers, ~P

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[tw] Re: Cleaning up the timeline

2010-10-19 Thread Plausible
For me the ExcludeTimelinePlugin results in excludeTimeline-tagged
tiddlers being excluded (as they should) but all the excludeLists-
tagged tiddlers being displayed (not so good!) in the timeline.

Looks like the line

   var tiddlers =
store.reverseLookup(tags,excludeTimeline,false,field);

in the plugin is the culprit; if you substitute excludeLists for
excludeTimeline you get back the 'vanilla' behaviour.

I wouldn't know how to modify that code so that /both/ excludeTimeline
and excludeLists tagged stuff is effectively excluded. Anyone?

cheers, ~P

On Oct 11, 1:22 pm, colmjude colmj...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Oct 11, 10:13 am, passingby passingby...@gmail.com wrote:

  On Oct 11, 1:48 pm, colmjude colmj...@gmail.com wrote:

   On Oct 11, 8:51 am, passingby passingby...@gmail.com wrote:

I wish to show just the content tiddler in my timeline. I want all the
system tiddlers like MainMenu, ColorPalette etc as well as the plugins
to be not shown in the timeline. One way would be to tag all these
with excludeLists, but then they would not show up in any list.

   I also have this thought from time to time. I sometimes wish there was
   an 'excludeTimeline' tag that could be used for this purpose.

  There is actually such a 
  pluginhttp://soloport.tiddlyspot.com/#ExcludeTimelinePlugin

 Excellent, just what I wanted. Cheers for sharing this.

  But then the system plugins like ColorPalette still would need to be
  tagged. I was thinking maybe there is a
  *excludeShadowTiddlersFromTimeline* feature in some macro somewhere?

 Not that I know of but personally if I'm editing the shadow tiddlers I
 don't mind adding a tag so that it is excluded from the timeline.

 Colm

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[tw] Re: Of joys and woes: After a week in TiddlySpace

2010-10-17 Thread Plausible
Thanks everyone, and pardon the delay. Let's see... (Mario, I'll
answer to your e-mail replies here, if Groups lets me.)

 *1) Can I have internal (tiddler) links looking different from external ones,
 Wikipedia-style?
Jeremy:
Yes, that's what is supposed to happen, with both the stock TiddlyWiki and
TiddlySpace styles. Tiddly links appear as bold text with a background
hover, and ordinary external linkes appear as conventional blue underlined
text.

Right. I somehow failed to fully register this while left-and-right
clicking. May just be newbie-ness. Yet I did add (more or less) what
Måns suggested now, to get Wikipedia-style arrows: seems clearer to
me.

Also, if I wanted to change the background hover, where would I go?

[ Måns, thanks for that. Regarding QuickEdit: I did nothing
extraordinary to get it working. I downloaded the whole TiddlyTools
page and from that local copy imported everything with a
QuickEditPackage tag into my TSpace. Finally I put div macro='tiddler
QuickEditToolbar'/div in the EditTemplate part of NeUIemTheme,
right before where it says div class='box editor' macro='edit text'/
div. Perhaps the fact that I put it in NeUIemTheme rather than the
EditTemplate tiddler makes a difference? ]

 *3) Can I get the calendar to size better with the MainMenu?
Mario:
 Yes. If you point to the source of your calendar, we can have a look at the 
 CSS

It's the CalendarPlugin from TiddlyTools. I checked the CSS and
inserted text-align:center; font-size:90%; in the setStylesheet
statement. This makes a good fit for my 800px wide screen. (However on
a wider screen it doesn't fill out the wider MainMenu... why not? It's
90% with respect to what, if not the MainMenu width?)

 **4) [Making the comment box slide/hideable]
Mario:
 div class='comments' macro='slider chkComments commentsTiddler View
 comments » Display the comments '
and a commentsTiddler that contains:
 comments textRows:1 testCols:3

Unfortunately this creates a single commentsTiddler for all
tiddlers... i.e. every tiddler shows the same sequence of comments :{

 **5) [Choosing among a pre-set list of tags]
Mario:
http://tbgtd.tiddlyspot.com/#DeliciousTagging may do what you want.

I couldn't figure out how to configure it. Tried a bunch of other
tagging plugins and now I'm using Tobias's TagSearchPlugin. (Tobias:
this is neat, though making 10 tag tiddlers each itself tagged e.g.
'Topic' is more convoluted than if one could have 1 tiddler 'Topic'
with a list of ten tags in it...I bet I'm overlooking the pros of your
system.)

 **6) It would rock to have a 'create SVG tiddler' button
rakugo/Jon:
 http://svg-editor.tiddlyspace.com/

Great!... but I find no 'new image button' after I import the space --
in fact I don't see such a button on the space itself either? (The
imported plugin does work otherwise.)

Mario: would it be possible to add a 6th, new SVG, button to neui-
em's SidebarButtons?

 ***7) I'd really like a way to automatically keep the collaborators up to 
 date
cdent:
  http://user:password@space.tiddlyspace.com/recipes/space_private
  /tiddlers.atom

On Linux I have no luck in either Liferea, Thunderbird, newsbeuter or
yarssr :( Are there any readers which are known to work this way?

In any case I can't force a specific feedreader onto each member; so
keeping my eyes peeled for progress on this one.

 **8bis) Relatedly, how can I make a 'private-friendly' local backup?
Jeremy:
http://jermolene.tiddlyspace.com/bags/jermolene_private/tiddlers.wiki...

Hm... but just the private tiddlers makes for a rather broken local
blog copy. Whereas the full html file has only the public tiddlers
accessible offline (as it should be, since anyone can download it).
The solution would seem to be to provide a system where the logged-in
member can download the space whereby the private tiddlers get
(perhaps temporarily, so the distinction remains latent) converted
into public ones?

This is not only relevant from a data backup concern but also
regarding spells of offline work. I'd like for my extended brain to
remain accessible on the road...

 *9) Username/space issues:
Jeremy  cdent:
 [Therefore you identity in TiddlySpace is your space, the spaces you are a
 member of, and the content you create in  those spaces.] etc.

Interesting. I may be pre-Web2.0 but I think a bit less user/space
conflation would be good, especially regarding the practical case
mentioned in my OP. It's actually no bother to have one's space 'open'
to any old Google's scrutiny since one can make it 99%-private anyway
(it's just a featureless facade); but the address should be discreet
if so wished.

I was unclear in my OpenID question: what I meant was it'd be easier
for me to invite members by saying just use your OpenID and you can
check out my TSpace, than to tell them you have to create your own
space (and hence user) first. It makes little difference practically
but it sounds quite different if you've no clue about TW. How about an
automated e-mail to such a 

[tw] Re: Questions on SVG on TiddlySpace

2010-10-11 Thread Plausible
A couple of mixmatch replies:

 It should scale the svg as well. SVG images seem to behave differently
 on different browsers. Can you point me to the image in question so I
 can see what is going on?

http://scarsandbox.tiddlyspace.com/#Dragon
http://scarsandbox.tiddlyspace.com/#[[Show%20that%20dragon]]

Just some random picture off the web.

 You need to include the editFields macro in your edit template.

 The plugin Jon refers to does actually go in the EditTemplate. You
 just need to put the following in it. div macro=editFields/div

Right... got it.

 Instead of putting something into your ViewTemplate (which is
 perfectly fine) you could alternatively use an editor for fields...
 http://tobibeer.tiddlyspace.com/#FE2

Tried this too: it seems more elegant than forcing the field editor
onto every tiddler.

 I don't think it's a hack at all - why would it be?

To an end user like me, it seems a complicated procedure, having to
import EditTemplateFieldsPlugin, then edit EditTemplate (which I
couldn't have done without the above spoonfeeding)... maybe not a
'hack' but not obvious... :/

 In order to not burden the user with technical details, one could use
 the NewTiddler macro to create a New Image button which automatically
 sets that field - or better yet, a dedicated plugin with all sorts of
 bells and whistles for SVGs.

That'd be a lot easier :)

  4) I was rather hoping for a plugin that allows editing an SVG image
  already present in the space.

 It's definitely possible. One could imagine getting the svg edit
 application (the one used in alex's space) [1] to work as an edit
 template (only for tiddlers with the server.content-type field set to
 image/svg+xml and loading the existing svg file and then saving it
 when finished. You would need to get this running on a tiddlyspace (I
 had a go but it proved too problematic as there are lots of file
 dependencies which have to have a certain namespace). I've been
 meaning to make something basis for a while but just haven't had the
 time :/

Yes, in terms of user-friendliness it would be ideal if editing an
image tiddler is much like editing a text tiddler. No idea how the TW
code could tell SVG Edit (or a similar app) to /load/ the current
image (or save it /back to the TW/), but what do I know. It'd be
superplusgood if editing a bitmap image tiddler would follow a similar
procedure, but I don't see any sort of loading functionality in e.g.
mrdoob.com/projects/harmony or http://mugtug.com/sketchpad/

cheers,

~P

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[tw] Re: Shared logbook (with RSS-style feed) using TiddlyWiki?

2010-10-10 Thread Plausible
I'd see two privacy-related issues with putting the feed in a tiddler.
If I'm not mistaken:

1) That tiddler would have to be public for its address to be used as
a (no-pass-required) RSS feed. If it is tagged appropriately
(excludeLists, excludeSearch, what else?) it might be hard to find for
a human who wasn't give the address; but what about web crawlers?
2) Since feed generation has to be enabled, the default public feed
(foobar_public/etc.) would be generated besides the plugin-generated
feed tiddler. So even if the latter were well-hidden by itself it
would appear in this public feed, with all the (potentially originally
private) info in it.

If this is true I'm afraid I don't quite see the advantage of pre-
filtering by plugin as opposed to filtering as Chris described. May be
my myopia though.

~P

On Oct 9, 10:45 pm, Tobias Beer beertob...@googlemail.com wrote:
 @FND

  After generating the feed,
 a plugin could PUT it in a tiddler with
   tiddler.fields[server.content-type] =
  application/atom+xml;
 (or application/rss+xml if need be)

 Great! Will try that tomorrow. As for atom feeds, would there be an
 existing TiddlyWiki generator equivalent to generateRss that can be
 adapted for TiddlySpace? I am actually not familiar with how to
 construct either. So if there's a noticeable difference between the
 two, some existing code would be nice.

 @P

 I have yet to see private feeds or authentication layers to servers
 feeding atom/rss, although there's something to them.

 FND's idea is definetely workable in that you can make feeds available
 by having the output written into a dedicated tiddler by a plugin like
 BetterRssHack. I could, for example even set up a feed macro that
 displays a button which when clicked allows you to publish a feed
 depending on any specified tags, for example.

 Cheers, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: Shared logbook (with RSS-style feed) using TiddlyWiki?

2010-10-10 Thread Plausible
2nd thought: It certainly /would/ give a more compact URL (like
sandbox.tiddlyspace.com/myfeed) than one with lots of filters in it.
And having a macro showing a button would make things more intuitive.

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[tw] Questions on SVG on TiddlySpace

2010-10-10 Thread Plausible
Hello,

I continue my newbie's ramble in TiddlySpace, this time through
'image' area.

I understand how to get images in a tiddler like so:
http://glossary.tiddlyspace.com/#[[image%20tiddlers]]

But:
1) Using image myImageTiddler width:xx height:yy, for a bitmap
image width and height seem to /scale/, whereas for an SVG they seem
to /crop/. Is that right? How to scale SVG?

2) How does one use EditTemplateFieldsPlugin to set the
server.content-type field manually? Is this considered a bit of a
hack? It would seem faster than using binaryUpload if you have the
image as a base64 string rather than a local file.

3) Using the cool SVG Editor (http://alexhough.tiddlyspace.com/#[[SVG
%20Editor]]%20Diagram) in my space when I hit create new SVG tiddler
and copy the drawing's source there, the tiddler doesn't show as an
image (but rather as the code). Is it because it's missing the image
flag in the server.content-type field?

4) I was rather hoping for a plugin that allows editing an SVG image
already present in the space. As in: I have a tiddler about a party
that incorporates an SVGimage tiddler with two balloons (or bottles).
Let's party harder. I click on 'open' (button next to the image in the
party tiddler?); this opens the image in an editor where I add dozens
of balloons/bottles; I hit 'save' (somewhere), and the plugin takes
care of putting the modified code in the existing SVGimage tiddler. Is
something like this possible?

cheers,

~P

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[tw] Re: Shared logbook (with RSS-style feed) using TiddlyWiki?

2010-10-09 Thread Plausible
Tobias: BetterRss looks like what I want, but I can't get it to work.
I imported the BetterRss and BetterRssHack tiddlers, set Include
tagged: to RSSentry and just for good measure also put

config.options.txtRssTag=RSSentry;
config.numRssItems=2;

in zzConfig. The 2 is just to clearly see whether it's working. Alas,
I don't observe a change in the feeds (given by the URL as per Chris's
post, and the private version of it). What am I missing?

Chris: Thanks for clarifying. The filtering is nifty, but I'd still
like something like Tobias's plugin, so as not to have every tiddler
go into the feed in the first place. Currently it seems really easy
for anyone to see all public /and/ private (!) tiddlers of a space
once they've figured out the feed URL, if they drop the filters.

Thanks both!

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[tw] Re: Change/import theme in TiddlySpace: basics?

2010-10-09 Thread Plausible
Hello Mario,

 uups sry: That's hardcoded.

I see you've fixed that one :) Thanks.

 I posted a request allready. At the moment, it would need to change
 the icons svg's. But this is not nice, if you need translation.

Cool. I assume they'll show up once you manage to add them to the
template.

 There is a relatively easy solution if you use a tag, for tiddlers, that 
 should
 be commented.

But I would like a comment box on every tiddler; I just want it to be
'closed' by default. (Well, maybe not on every tiddler -- a tag would
be good to /exclude/ certain tiddlers from having a comment box.)

How about using slider? I made various attempts at squeezing 'slider'
into my line

div class='comments' macro='comments textRows:2 textCols:15'/div

in NeUIemTheme, but I can't figure out the correct syntax.

Ideally, upon opening a tiddler, there would be:
* a closed slider if there are 0 comments
* an open slider if there are =1 comments
* no slider at all if the tiddler is tagged 'noComments'

(Also: yes, with the above syntax, 'textCols' seems to be ignored.)

 **5**

I added this to zzConfig:

// message when creating a new tiddler
config.views.wikified.defaultText = Tiddler content goes here.;
// message when a tiddler doesn't exist
config.views.editor.defaultText = This tiddler does not exist yet.
Click the 'create a copy' icon.;

It works for the new tiddler, but not for the nonexisting tiddler: in
the latter case the same Tiddler content goes here. text is
shown...?

cheers,

~P

PS: Yeah Google Groups doesn't allow me to post 'long' posts either :/

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[tw] Re: Shared logbook (with RSS-style feed) using TiddlyWiki?

2010-10-09 Thread Plausible
I must correct myself, where I wrote:

 Currently it seems really easy for anyone to see all public
 /and/ private (!) tiddlers of a space once they've figured out
 the feed URL, if they drop the filters.

I hadn't noticed when I checked this that my being logged in to my
space meant I could see its private feed, but when logged out it
becomes inaccessible. Now I understand the rationale behind the system
as Chris put it.

However this raises a new issue. I was hoping to have the RSS feed so
the collaborators on the project wouldn't have to check the space all
the time; they would simply add the feed to their feed reader. But if
you need to be logged in to see the private feed (makes sense, of
course) this becomes impossible... or are there feed readers which
send over a username and password?

Perhaps RSS just isn't the right tool for what I want to do here.

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[tw] Re: Change/import theme in TiddlySpace: basics?

2010-10-08 Thread Plausible
I forgot this:

**5**

In the screenshot you see a tiddler 'testtest' referred to in the
comment, which doesn't exist yet. Clicking on 'testtest' the proto-
tiddler opens with the familiar Double-click to create it line.
However double-clicking does nothing. Instead you have to click on the
'Create a copy' icon. This will confuse my users... can it be fixed?

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[tw] Re: Change/import theme in TiddlySpace: basics?

2010-10-07 Thread Plausible
Thanks Colm and PMario, I checked the links you provided and continued
experimenting, so here's some more feedback / questions:

**1**
I tried to add right-sidebar-toggling to the default theme:
- I copy http://www.tiddlytools.com/#ToggleRightSidebar into my space;
- I add a tiddler called zzTweaks as instructed under 'Configuration'
on the above TTools page;
- I add tiddler ToggleRightSidebar to the SideBarOptions tiddler.
Nothing happens visually; no ► to be seen.
- I include the neui-em theme.
Now the ► does show. Apparently something was packed into neui-em that
I missed myself, but I don't know what.
- I decide to use neui-em's SideBarOptions in any case.
Looking good.
- I remove neui-em from my includes as a test, reverting to default
layout... (while keeping neui-em's SideBarOptions)...
Now the » for the options panel shows as it should, but the ◄ and ►
for the sidebars have vanished again.
?

(continued in next post... GGroups doesn't let me post it all)

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[tw] Referring to both an online and an offline Dropbox file: possible?

2010-10-06 Thread Plausible
Hello,

I am wondering if it's somehow possible, when including a file (e.g.
an image) in a tiddler, to specify that the code should look for the
file at an online location first, and if nothing is found, for a local
offline location. The online location could be the URL of the file in
a Dropbox public folder, while the offline one would be the local
address of the same file in the local Dropbox public folder.

The aim here is that the same files appear no matter whether you're
online or offline, with no need for redirecting addresses. Also, if
you add files offline then reconnect to have others look at your
updated wiki, Dropbox syncing should ensure they'll see the updates.

Ideally you'd be able to specify that all files linked to in the wiki
are treated this way by default... Possible? Already done?

cheers

~P

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[tw] Automatic hyperlinking upon tiddler title creation/change?

2010-10-06 Thread Plausible
Suppose I write a tiddler today that tangentially mentions
'elephant' (not in [[ ]]). Two weeks later I learn lots of things
about elephants and create an 'elephant' tiddler.

Is it possible at that point to automatically check whether any of my
tiddlers mention 'elephant' and put [[ ]] around wherever it is found?

Basically each time you create or change a tiddler title, all existing
tiddlers would have to be searched for matches. No idea if that's a
reasonable thing to do time-wise. But the end result would be very
neatly hyperlinked.

clueless yet hopeful,

~P

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[tw] Re: Change/import theme in TiddlySpace: basics?

2010-10-06 Thread Plausible
Let me correct myself on the quickstart_tiddlyblog.html import: after
reloading the space:
- everything looks pretty (rather than glitchy), but:
- mousing over the backstage bar makes a white 'upload' bar appear
right over it (which opens a 'Upload with options' window), rendering
the backstage functions inaccessible;
- commenting on a tiddler using 'add a note' does not work, and saving
seems broken (I guess it's looking for TiddlySpot stuff?);
- the formating buttons (bold, italic, choose colour etc.) don't
appear when editing a tiddler;
- ... maybe other issues, maybe not.

Oh well :/

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[tw] Change/import theme in TiddlySpace: basics?

2010-10-05 Thread Plausible
Hello,

How to import a TW theme to TiddlySpace?

I've tried entering e.g. http://tiddlythemes.com/empties/Rin.html into
ImportTiddlers yet it results in an Unable to import from this
location due to cross-domain restrictions. error.

Same for trying to import the http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#ImportTiddlersPlugin
tool.

I gather from other posts that it /is/ possible to change (import?)
themes, but can't see the basic steps to be made.

cheers

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[tw] Re: Shared logbook (with RSS-style feed) using TiddlyWiki?

2010-10-04 Thread Plausible
Dude, that was the perfect reply. Thanks! Very glad to see it's all
possible. On to the job now.

~P


On Oct 4, 7:27 am, whatever kbrezov...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi!
 For RSS feed, 
 seehttp://www.tiddlywiki.com/#GenerateAnRssFeedandhttp://www.TiddlyTools.com/#ExportTiddlersPlugin
 For commenting, 
 seehttp://www.TiddlyTools.com/#CommentPlugin,http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#DiscussionPluginandhttp://tiddlyguv.org/CommentsPlugin.html
 For limiting access, seehttp://tobibeer.tiddlyspace.com/#SimpleRoles
 For mindmap, search this group, there's a bunch of plugins mentioned.
 If you're not comfortable with TiddlySpace, try TiddlySpot 
 athttp://www.tiddlyspot.com
 hth
 w

 On Oct 4, 2:25 am, Plausible verreh...@yahoo.com wrote:

  Hello,

  I am wanting to set up a shared academic logbook for a project lasting
  a couple of months. Ideally it would be as follows:

  1) My blog/journal: regular (semi-daily) briefs of work done (each one
  a tiddler);
  2) A small number of other users would have access to the logbook, and
  can add their own entries or comment on mine / each other's;
  3) The journal generates something like an RSS feed so the non-main
  collaborators do not need to login to the logbook to check what's
  happening. (Presumably each feed entry should only be generated at the
  end of the day, so that editing a journal tiddler during the same day
  doesn't send off an entry each time.)

  Is this possible? I was playing around with TiddlySpace just now,
  looks great but I can't immediately see how to do (3) nor how
  commenting (2) would be best done.

  The logbook would not just contain journal entries, but also function
  as a type of mindmap, hence my hope that this can be done within the
  TiddlyWiki framework (which is new to me).

  Any ideas much appreciated -- thanks,

  ~P

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[tw] Shared logbook (with RSS-style feed) using TiddlyWiki?

2010-10-03 Thread Plausible
Hello,

I am wanting to set up a shared academic logbook for a project lasting
a couple of months. Ideally it would be as follows:

1) My blog/journal: regular (semi-daily) briefs of work done (each one
a tiddler);
2) A small number of other users would have access to the logbook, and
can add their own entries or comment on mine / each other's;
3) The journal generates something like an RSS feed so the non-main
collaborators do not need to login to the logbook to check what's
happening. (Presumably each feed entry should only be generated at the
end of the day, so that editing a journal tiddler during the same day
doesn't send off an entry each time.)

Is this possible? I was playing around with TiddlySpace just now,
looks great but I can't immediately see how to do (3) nor how
commenting (2) would be best done.

The logbook would not just contain journal entries, but also function
as a type of mindmap, hence my hope that this can be done within the
TiddlyWiki framework (which is new to me).

Any ideas much appreciated -- thanks,

~P

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