Thanks everyone, and pardon the delay. Let's see... (Mario, I'll
answer to your e-mail replies here, if Groups lets me.)
>> *1) Can I have internal (tiddler) links looking different from external ones,
>> Wikipedia-style?
Jeremy:
>Yes, that's what is supposed to happen, with both the stock TiddlyWiki and
>TiddlySpace styles. Tiddly links appear as bold text with a background
>hover, and ordinary external linkes appear as conventional blue underlined
>text.
Right. I somehow failed to fully register this while left-and-right
clicking. May just be newbie-ness. Yet I did add (more or less) what
Måns suggested now, to get Wikipedia-style arrows: seems clearer to
me.
Also, if I wanted to change the background hover, where would I go?
[ Måns, thanks for that. Regarding QuickEdit: I did nothing
extraordinary to get it working. I downloaded the whole TiddlyTools
page and from that local copy imported everything with a
QuickEditPackage tag into my TSpace. Finally I put <div macro='tiddler
QuickEditToolbar'></div> in the EditTemplate part of NeUIemTheme,
right before where it says <div class='box editor' macro='edit text'></
div>. Perhaps the fact that I put it in NeUIemTheme rather than the
EditTemplate tiddler makes a difference? ]
>> *3) Can I get the calendar to size better with the MainMenu?
Mario:
> Yes. If you point to the source of your calendar, we can have a look at the
> CSS
It's the CalendarPlugin from TiddlyTools. I checked the CSS and
inserted text-align:center; font-size:90%; in the setStylesheet
statement. This makes a good fit for my 800px wide screen. (However on
a wider screen it doesn't fill out the wider MainMenu... why not? It's
90% with respect to what, if not the MainMenu width?)
>> **4) [Making the comment box slide/hideable]
Mario:
> <div class='comments' macro='slider chkComments commentsTiddler "View
> comments »" "Display the comments" '>>
>and a commentsTiddler that contains:
> <<comments textRows:1 testCols:3>>
Unfortunately this creates a single commentsTiddler for all
tiddlers... i.e. every tiddler shows the same sequence of comments :{
>> **5) [Choosing among a pre-set list of tags]
Mario:
>http://tbgtd.tiddlyspot.com/#DeliciousTagging may do what you want.
I couldn't figure out how to configure it. Tried a bunch of other
tagging plugins and now I'm using Tobias's TagSearchPlugin. (Tobias:
this is neat, though making 10 tag tiddlers each itself tagged e.g.
'Topic' is more convoluted than if one could have 1 tiddler 'Topic'
with a list of ten tags in it...I bet I'm overlooking the pros of your
system.)
>> **6) It would rock to have a 'create SVG tiddler' button
rakugo/Jon:
> http://svg-editor.tiddlyspace.com/
Great!... but I find no 'new image button' after I import the space --
in fact I don't see such a button on the space itself either? (The
imported plugin does work otherwise.)
Mario: would it be possible to add a 6th, "new SVG", button to neui-
em's SidebarButtons?
>> ***7) I'd really like a way to automatically keep the collaborators up to
>> date
cdent:
> http://<user>:<password>@<space>.tiddlyspace.com/recipes/<space>_private
> /tiddlers.atom
On Linux I have no luck in either Liferea, Thunderbird, newsbeuter or
yarssr :( Are there any readers which are known to work this way?
In any case I can't force a specific feedreader onto each member; so
keeping my eyes peeled for progress on this one.
>> **8bis) Relatedly, how can I make a 'private-friendly' local backup?
Jeremy:
>http://jermolene.tiddlyspace.com/bags/jermolene_private/tiddlers.wiki...
Hm... but just the private tiddlers makes for a rather broken local
blog copy. Whereas the full html file has only the public tiddlers
accessible offline (as it should be, since anyone can download it).
The solution would seem to be to provide a system where the logged-in
member can download the space whereby the private tiddlers get
(perhaps temporarily, so the distinction remains latent) converted
into public ones?
This is not only relevant from a data backup concern but also
regarding spells of offline work. I'd like for my extended brain to
remain accessible on the road...
> *9) Username/space issues:
Jeremy & cdent:
> [Therefore you identity in TiddlySpace is your space, the spaces you are a
> member of, and the content you create in those spaces.] etc.
Interesting. I may be pre-Web2.0 but I think a bit less user/space
conflation would be good, especially regarding the practical case
mentioned in my OP. It's actually no bother to have one's space 'open'
to any old Google's scrutiny since one can make it 99%-private anyway
(it's just a featureless facade); but the address should be discreet
if so wished.
I was unclear in my OpenID question: what I meant was it'd be easier
for me to invite members by saying "just use your OpenID and you can
check out my TSpace", than to tell them "you have to create your own
space (and hence user) first". It makes little difference practically
but it sounds quite different if you've no clue about TW. How about an
automated e-mail to such a member saying "Hi! We hope you liked your
visit to TS; would you like a space of your own? and perhaps a moniker
different from your OpenID?"
Think of it as being more flexible than Facebook. Your address and
your name can appear unrelated (though friendly clicks will relate
them). And you don't need your own address in town to visit a friend's
place and comment on the wallpaper (the friend must have listed your
ID before you get in, of course).
>> *10) not happy with how all members of the space must have equal rights
cdent:
> The one access control state that I think we may wish to rethink is
> "readable by some, writeable by some fewer". Something in between the
> current public and private[1].
That seems enough. I figure Jeremy's words on simplicity are wise, and
to use the house analogy again: if you trust your friend you'll let
him walk in your house on the assumption he won't break stuff though
he could. Problem is we all know houses but not TWs. I trust my
collaborators but not in matters of not deleting vital tiddlers by
accident (especially given that I hardly trust myself yet with that,
and that they're not that well hidden).
I reckon I haven't had enough of a taste yet of the "co-creation for
larger, less trusted groups through social connections between
spaces" (Jeremy) to fully appreciate that part.
cheers, ~P
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