[tw] Re: TW for iPhone and iPad - tiddlyNotes

2013-01-31 Thread Guy Savile
Thank for your your kind response , but no, it doesn't help. I am following 
your instructions exactly, with no success.
I have set Project Name in TN = tiddly (.html file) in Dropbox\tiddlynotes 
folder. 
The .xml files in Dropbox are updated everytime I sync from TN. However no 
content is merged between the Project in TN and the Tiddlywiki in Dropbox 

On 29 Jan 2013, at 23:42, Sabine Kalinowsky mrskalinow...@googlemail.com 
wrote:

 Hi Guy,
 
 It seems that you are pretty close in getting it working. And I have to 
 admit, it is really complex, the whole syncing stuff. But we have to work 
 within the limitation of TW. - Anyway, just to recap how the syncing works. 
 There are 3 data sources:
 
 * ios with its internal store
 * TW with the empty.html or equivalent
 * And the xml file that we store on Dropbox, which is an intermediate format
 
 The important thing is, that iOS and the browser point at the right location 
 for the sync, there is no need for you to copy manually data. On iOS this is 
 done implicitly within the project structure. For tiddlywiki you need to 
 point the plugin to the right location. For the default project this is the 
 root dropbox folder and for a project, this is [dropbox-folder/tiddlyNotes]. 
 And the rest should be automatic, if projectname = name of the tiddlywiki 
 file.
 
 Hope this helps,
  Sabine
 
 On Jan 29, 2013, at 10:14 AM, Guy Saville wrote:
 
 Sorry to contact you directly, but I have not been receiving responses to my 
 Support requests on your Facebook page
 
 I have a problem with sync'ing.  The problem is not the one covered in all 
 your support - ie it's not about using the plug-in to automatically sync 
 TiddlyWiki files to Dropbox.
 My problem is on the iPhone - I cannot sync Projects between Dropbox and the 
 TiddlyNotes (TN) app.
 
 
 I have TiddlyNotes upgraded with all the in-app purchases. I am running IOS 
 6 on iPhone 4S. I have successfully opended TN and linked it to my Dropbox 
 account. However I cannot merge or sync a wiki (project) from Dropbox to TN, 
 and vice versa.
 I have followed the directions closely. The problem is on the iPhone - 
 sync'ing (merging) the file in Dropbox to the Project in TiddlyNotes (TN):
 TN has activated Dropbox and created the Tiddlynotes sub-folder in Dropbox, 
 and the correct xml files have been created in Dropbox. When I do a sync 
 from TN, the Dropbox xml files are updated.
 I created a new blank project in TN and added a TiddlyWiki html document 
 (with content) of the exact same name in the TiddlyNotes sub-folder in 
 Dropbox. When I then sync from TN, the xml file in Dropbox is updated, but 
 the project in TN remains empty?
 
 
 

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Re: [tw] Re: TW for iPhone and iPad - tiddlyNotes

2013-01-31 Thread Eric Weir

 On 29 Jan 2013, at 23:42, Sabine Kalinowsky mrskalinow...@googlemail.com 
 wrote:
 
 It seems that you are pretty close in getting it working. And I have to 
 admit, it is really complex, the whole syncing stuff. But we have to work 
 within the limitation of TW. - Anyway, just to recap how the syncing works. 
 There are 3 data sources:

This post alerted me to the existence of TiddlyNotes. I've installed the lite 
version. It appears that customization is not possible, i.e., that there's no 
access to the timeline and the control tiddlers.

To start with I'd like to like to add TiddlersBar, TagglyTagging, and to change 
the way tagging is implemented.

Possible?

Thanks,
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[tw] Re: TW for iPhone and iPad - tiddlyNotes

2013-01-29 Thread Guy Saville
Sorry to contact you directly, but I have not been receiving responses to 
my Support requests on your Facebook page

I have a problem with sync'ing.  The problem is not the one covered in all 
your support - ie it's not about using the plug-in to automatically sync 
TiddlyWiki files to Dropbox.
My problem is on the iPhone - I cannot sync Projects between Dropbox and 
the TiddlyNotes (TN) app.

I have TiddlyNotes upgraded with all the in-app purchases. I am running IOS 
6 on iPhone 4S. I have successfully opended TN and linked it to my Dropbox 
account. However I cannot merge or sync a wiki (project) from Dropbox to 
TN, and vice versa.
I have followed the directions closely. The problem is on the iPhone - 
sync'ing (merging) the file in Dropbox to the Project in TiddlyNotes (TN):
TN has activated Dropbox and created the Tiddlynotes sub-folder in Dropbox, 
and the correct xml files have been created in Dropbox. When I do a sync 
from TN, the Dropbox xml files are updated.
I created a new blank project in TN and added a TiddlyWiki html document 
(with content) of the exact same name in the TiddlyNotes sub-folder in 
Dropbox. When I then sync from TN, the xml file in Dropbox is updated, but 
the project in TN remains empty?

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[tw] Re: TW for iPhone and iPad - tiddlyNotes

2013-01-29 Thread Sabine Kalinowsky
Hi Guy,

It seems that you are pretty close in getting it working. And I have to admit, 
it is really complex, the whole syncing stuff. But we have to work within the 
limitation of TW. - Anyway, just to recap how the syncing works. There are 3 
data sources:

* ios with its internal store
* TW with the empty.html or equivalent
* And the xml file that we store on Dropbox, which is an intermediate format

The important thing is, that iOS and the browser point at the right location 
for the sync, there is no need for you to copy manually data. On iOS this is 
done implicitly within the project structure. For tiddlywiki you need to point 
the plugin to the right location. For the default project this is the root 
dropbox folder and for a project, this is [dropbox-folder/tiddlyNotes]. And the 
rest should be automatic, if projectname = name of the tiddlywiki file.

Hope this helps,
 Sabine

On Jan 29, 2013, at 10:14 AM, Guy Saville wrote:

 Sorry to contact you directly, but I have not been receiving responses to my 
 Support requests on your Facebook page
 
 I have a problem with sync'ing.  The problem is not the one covered in all 
 your support - ie it's not about using the plug-in to automatically sync 
 TiddlyWiki files to Dropbox.
 My problem is on the iPhone - I cannot sync Projects between Dropbox and the 
 TiddlyNotes (TN) app.
 
 
 I have TiddlyNotes upgraded with all the in-app purchases. I am running IOS 6 
 on iPhone 4S. I have successfully opended TN and linked it to my Dropbox 
 account. However I cannot merge or sync a wiki (project) from Dropbox to TN, 
 and vice versa.
 I have followed the directions closely. The problem is on the iPhone - 
 sync'ing (merging) the file in Dropbox to the Project in TiddlyNotes (TN):
 TN has activated Dropbox and created the Tiddlynotes sub-folder in Dropbox, 
 and the correct xml files have been created in Dropbox. When I do a sync from 
 TN, the Dropbox xml files are updated.
 I created a new blank project in TN and added a TiddlyWiki html document 
 (with content) of the exact same name in the TiddlyNotes sub-folder in 
 Dropbox. When I then sync from TN, the xml file in Dropbox is updated, but 
 the project in TN remains empty?
 
 

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[tw] Re: TW for iPhone and iPad - tiddlyNotes

2012-12-30 Thread Søren Svendsen


On Saturday, 19 November 2011 07:59:42 UTC+1, Sabine Kalinowsky wrote:

 On Nov 18, 11:06 pm, tiddlygrp tiddly...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi,
 
  you only have a facebook page?  Non facebook users can't contact you.

 So far yes, depending on the traffic we get, we might choose to expand
 our communication channels. But you have my email, so no problem to
 contact me directly.

 Mrsk


Hi Sabine,

When trying to google for the TiddlyNotesSync I didnt find anything, it is 
a bit strange to be completely unable to find anything on a published 
software when using google :) Thing is, when I see the instructions in the 
TiddlyNotes app on my IOS I am not really able to use the url to the 
tiddlynotessync for anything. I need that on my pc. But there's no app 
there! Finally found it rooting around on the facebook page.

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[tw] Re: TW for iPhone and iPad - tiddlyNotes

2012-08-23 Thread Sabine Kalinowsky
Hi Peter,

Sorry for this late reply. Very busy these days.  Find my comments inline.

On Aug 17, 2012, at 9:42 PM, pw wrote:

 I finally got sync working between laptop  iPhone. It took many tries as the 
 documentation was very unclear.
Yes, it is far too technical. Once it is working, or once you've done it 
yourself successfully, your are fine. But getting there can be tedious.
  
 
 However, it is not working properly. When I restart my TiddlyWiki after 
 installing the tiddlyNotesSync tiddler I get this error about four times:
 
 JavaScript Error
 
 It's not possible to save changes. Possible reasons include:
 - your browser doesn't support saving (Firefox, Internet Explorer, Safari and 
 Opera all work if properly configured)
 - the pathname to your TiddlyWiki file contains illegal characters
 - the TiddlyWiki HTML file has been moved or renamed
 
 The as soon as a do a sync, I can no longer open my local TiddlyWiki html 
 file. I just get a continuous loop of the this JavaScript error message. The 
 only resolution is to quit the browser.
 
 Using Safari 6 (with Disable LocalFileRestirctions checked) on Mac OS 10.8. 
 Not seeing the issue with Firefox. 
There are problems with Safari, also with safari 5 before. Firefox is 
definitely our preference. We will file an issue for this. Until this is 
resolved, please stay on Firefox.

Regards,
 Sabine

 
 On Friday, November 18, 2011 3:24:32 PM UTC-5, mrsk wrote:
 Hi, 
 
 The subject has been used in the past to point at apps that use TW in 
 some form on the iPad/iPhone. Well, this is another one. Our app is 
 called tiddlyNotes. tiddlyNotes embeds TW for rendering purposes, but 
 manages the actual tiddlers in its own way. The app tries to be easy 
 to understand and use for the iPhone/iPad user. And at the same time 
 it tries to be familiar to the TW user. 
 
 But probably the best feature is the built-in synchronization based on 
 Dropbox. It allows you to synchronize instantaneously between your 
 mobile devices and, if you use our plugin for TW, your browser on a PC 
 or notebook. In other words the full round trip between your mobile 
 devices and your fat client is available to you. 
 
 There is a free version available, tiddlyNotes lite: 
 http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/tiddlynotes-lite/id465933435 
 And of course the is also a corresponding full version, including the 
 unlimited synchronization. The lite version only allows to sync 10 
 times. 
 
 On our product page www.facebook.com/tiddlyNotes you find all relevant 
 information about the app. It is also the easiest way to contact us. 
 
 From here you get also the instructions on how to install the plugin 
 inside TW: http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=181704671909078 
 
 And finally, we would be happy to get your feedback, either in the app 
 store as a review or on Facebook. 
 
 Thanks for reading that far, 
  mrsk
 
 
 
  

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[tw] Re: TW for iPhone and iPad - tiddlyNotes

2012-08-17 Thread pw
I finally got sync working between laptop  iPhone. It took many tries as 
the documentation was very unclear. 

However, it is not working properly. When I restart my TiddlyWiki after 
installing the tiddlyNotesSync tiddler I get this error about four times:

JavaScript Error

It's not possible to save changes. Possible reasons include:
- your browser doesn't support saving (Firefox, Internet Explorer, Safari 
and Opera all work if properly configured)
- the pathname to your TiddlyWiki file contains illegal characters
- the TiddlyWiki HTML file has been moved or renamed

The as soon as a do a sync, I can no longer open my local TiddlyWiki html 
file. I just get a continuous loop of the this JavaScript error message. 
The only resolution is to quit the browser.

Using Safari 6 (with Disable LocalFileRestirctions checked) on Mac OS 10.8. 
Not seeing the issue with Firefox. 

On Friday, November 18, 2011 3:24:32 PM UTC-5, mrsk wrote:

 Hi, 

 The subject has been used in the past to point at apps that use TW in 
 some form on the iPad/iPhone. Well, this is another one. Our app is 
 called tiddlyNotes. tiddlyNotes embeds TW for rendering purposes, but 
 manages the actual tiddlers in its own way. The app tries to be easy 
 to understand and use for the iPhone/iPad user. And at the same time 
 it tries to be familiar to the TW user. 

 But probably the best feature is the built-in synchronization based on 
 Dropbox. It allows you to synchronize instantaneously between your 
 mobile devices and, if you use our plugin for TW, your browser on a PC 
 or notebook. In other words the full round trip between your mobile 
 devices and your fat client is available to you. 

 There is a free version available, tiddlyNotes lite: 
 http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/tiddlynotes-lite/id465933435 
 And of course the is also a corresponding full version, including the 
 unlimited synchronization. The lite version only allows to sync 10 
 times. 

 On our product page www.facebook.com/tiddlyNotes you find all relevant 
 information about the app. It is also the easiest way to contact us. 

 From here you get also the instructions on how to install the plugin 
 inside TW: http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=181704671909078 

 And finally, we would be happy to get your feedback, either in the app 
 store as a review or on Facebook. 

 Thanks for reading that far, 
  mrsk




 

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[tw] Re: TW for iPhone and iPad - tiddlyNotes

2011-11-21 Thread mrsk
Hi Wolfgang,

On Nov 20, 11:14 pm, wolfgang pamo...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Tried, but somehow must have understood something wrong: Opened the
 tiddlyNotes backstage panel in a TW on my Desktop, entered for its
 location the public link to my Dropbox with an older version of the
 same TW, and selected Client from the available options:

  You have modified your Dropbox location so your tiddlers will now be 
  synchronized with your Dropbox account.
  We'd like to understand how you want to handle this first synchronization. 
  Please choose one of the following options.

  Merge      Recommended:
  Synchronize your TiddlyWiki tiddlers with the tiddlers in your Dropbox 
  account
  Server     Erase all your TiddlyWiki tiddlers and replace them with the 
  tiddlers in your Dropbox account
  Client     Erase all the tiddlers in your Dropbox account and replace them 
  with your TiddlyWiki tiddlers

 Half hour later the local Dropbox TW still isn't synchrinized. What
 did I do wrong?


You don't need to copy anything yourself into the Dropbox folder. The
only thing you need to do is, to point the tiddlyNotesSync plugin to
the folder. Once saved and sync option selected, the plugin will
extract the data from your TW and place it into the folder.

Maybe it is easier to configure first your iPhone/iPad. If this is
correctly configured, you will notice that a file named
tiddlyNotes.xml appears in your Dropbox folder. This file is used to
sync the tiddlers and move them between devices.

Mrs.

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[tw] Re: TW for iPhone and iPad - tiddlyNotes

2011-11-21 Thread wolfgang
 You don't need to copy anything yourself into the Dropbox folder. The
 only thing you need to do is, to point the tiddlyNotesSync plugin to
 the folder. Once saved and sync option selected, the plugin will
 extract the data from your TW and place it into the folder.

 Maybe it is easier to configure first your iPhone/iPad. If this is
 correctly configured, you will notice that a file named
 tiddlyNotes.xml appears in your Dropbox folder. This file is used to
 sync the tiddlers and move them between devices.


Thanks for the reply. But don't have a iPhone and just wanted to use
tiddlyNotesSync to update my dropbox TW with changes made on other
computers away from home. Of course, could just log into my dropbox
account and upload the whole file. But tiddlyNotesSync seemed to be
able to do without.

So for this use-case I would have to get a tiddlyNotes.xml and place
it into my dropbox folder?

 only thing you need to do is, to point the tiddlyNotesSync plugin to
 the folder.

Do I at least understand you right, that you mean the public link to
my online dropbox folder? Because otherwise it wouldn't make much
sense if it only worked at home.

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[tw] Re: TW for iPhone and iPad - tiddlyNotes

2011-11-20 Thread mrsk
Hi Craig,

Find my comments inline.

On Nov 19, 6:54 pm, Craig in Calgary craig.prich...@gmail.com wrote:
 Mrsk,

  ... you don't need to copy anything into
  the DropBox Folder. Instead, the tiddlyNotesSync for TW monitors
  changes and extracts them and syncs them with the tiddlers stored in
  your Dropbox folder. So you need to point the tiddlyNotesSync plugin
  to your Dropbox folder, ...

 Does tiddlyNotes *have* to sync to the root of Dropbox? Can it be
 configured to sync with a sub-directory (whether end-user specified or
 application-determined)? I don't like cluttering the root of my
 Dropbox.
So far we have to use the root as when haven't been able to find a
reliable way to create a subfolder from within TW.

  At this stage tiddlyNotes works with a single TW instance to keep the
  whole interaction simple once sync is completely configured. Why would
  you need multiple TW?

 I maintain multiple TWs because of content and functionality. Being
 able to push a tiddler to the TW of my choosing will allow me to
 maintain my workflow. Having all tiddlers push to a single TW will
 require me to regularly move tiddlers from tiddlyNotes' TW to the TWs
 where each belongs.

Okay, fair enough. This might be an option for future enhancements.


 Can tiddlyNotes sync with a TW of my choice instead of just the blank
 default TW? Otherwise I have to open the blank default TW and import
 all the tiddlers from my TW into it.
This is fully up to you. You define within TW, if it should sync or
not. There is no dependency on the filename.


 Will the tiddlyNotes TW have any problems with the various plugins,
 macros, scripts, and transclusions that populate the Tiddlyverse? As
 previously mentioned my various TWs look and behave differently based
 on their purpose and content. If I export any one of them into the
 blank default TW so I can continue to work with that TW outside
 tiddlyNotes as well as within, what might tiddlyNotes do when
 attempting to render HTML, Javascript, fET code, transclusions, etc.?

Today tiddlyNotes uses the embedded standard TW functionality. So we
don't sync plugins. This doesn't mean that it doesn't work, but we
wanted to get the test matrix under control first before expanding to
the full feature set, where you can hit all sorts of problem because
of the sandbox approach of iOS and specifics of the mobile browser.


 Last question: I burned through the 10 free syncs performing some of
 my tests. But I didn't finish experimenting. May I have a reset so I
 can finish my evaluation? Thank you for your consideration in this
 matter.
Well, delete the app and start fresh.


 Bottom line, tiddlyNotes appears likely to be useful, depending on
 your workflow.

 Keep up the good work. I look forward to the future enhancements.


Thanks for taking it into consideration.
 Mrsk

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[tw] Re: TW for iPhone and iPad - tiddlyNotes

2011-11-20 Thread wolfgang
Tried, but somehow must have understood something wrong: Opened the
tiddlyNotes backstage panel in a TW on my Desktop, entered for its
location the public link to my Dropbox with an older version of the
same TW, and selected Client from the available options:

 You have modified your Dropbox location so your tiddlers will now be 
 synchronized with your Dropbox account.
 We'd like to understand how you want to handle this first synchronization. 
 Please choose one of the following options.

 Merge Recommended:
 Synchronize your TiddlyWiki tiddlers with the tiddlers in your Dropbox account
 ServerErase all your TiddlyWiki tiddlers and replace them with the 
 tiddlers in your Dropbox account
 ClientErase all the tiddlers in your Dropbox account and replace them 
 with your TiddlyWiki tiddlers

Half hour later the local Dropbox TW still isn't synchrinized. What
did I do wrong?

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[tw] Re: TW for iPhone and iPad - tiddlyNotes

2011-11-19 Thread Craig in Calgary
Mrsk,

 ... you don't need to copy anything into
 the DropBox Folder. Instead, the tiddlyNotesSync for TW monitors
 changes and extracts them and syncs them with the tiddlers stored in
 your Dropbox folder. So you need to point the tiddlyNotesSync plugin
 to your Dropbox folder, ...

Does tiddlyNotes *have* to sync to the root of Dropbox? Can it be
configured to sync with a sub-directory (whether end-user specified or
application-determined)? I don't like cluttering the root of my
Dropbox.

 At this stage tiddlyNotes works with a single TW instance to keep the
 whole interaction simple once sync is completely configured. Why would
 you need multiple TW?

I maintain multiple TWs because of content and functionality. Being
able to push a tiddler to the TW of my choosing will allow me to
maintain my workflow. Having all tiddlers push to a single TW will
require me to regularly move tiddlers from tiddlyNotes' TW to the TWs
where each belongs.

Can tiddlyNotes sync with a TW of my choice instead of just the blank
default TW? Otherwise I have to open the blank default TW and import
all the tiddlers from my TW into it.

Will the tiddlyNotes TW have any problems with the various plugins,
macros, scripts, and transclusions that populate the Tiddlyverse? As
previously mentioned my various TWs look and behave differently based
on their purpose and content. If I export any one of them into the
blank default TW so I can continue to work with that TW outside
tiddlyNotes as well as within, what might tiddlyNotes do when
attempting to render HTML, Javascript, fET code, transclusions, etc.?

Last question: I burned through the 10 free syncs performing some of
my tests. But I didn't finish experimenting. May I have a reset so I
can finish my evaluation? Thank you for your consideration in this
matter.

Bottom line, tiddlyNotes appears likely to be useful, depending on
your workflow.

Keep up the good work. I look forward to the future enhancements.

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[tw] Re: TW for iPhone and iPad - tiddlyNotes

2011-11-18 Thread tiddlygrp
Hi,

you only have a facebook page?  Non facebook users can't contact you.

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[tw] Re: TW for iPhone and iPad - tiddlyNotes

2011-11-18 Thread Craig in Calgary
I've been experimenting with the Lite version. I'm confused about
where to place the tiddlyNotes files in my Dropbox folder structure.
Also, does tiddlyNotes only support a single TiddlyWiki? Or can it
edit multiple TiddlyWikis? Thank you for feedback.

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[tw] Re: TW for iPhone and iPad - tiddlyNotes

2011-11-18 Thread mrsk


On Nov 18, 11:06 pm, tiddlygrp tiddly...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 you only have a facebook page?  Non facebook users can't contact you.

So far yes, depending on the traffic we get, we might choose to expand
our communication channels. But you have my email, so no problem to
contact me directly.

Mrsk

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[tw] Re: TW for iPhone and iPad - tiddlyNotes

2011-11-18 Thread mrsk


On Nov 19, 12:02 am, Craig in Calgary craig.prich...@gmail.com
wrote:
 I've been experimenting with the Lite version. I'm confused about
 where to place the tiddlyNotes files in my Dropbox folder structure.
 Also, does tiddlyNotes only support a single TiddlyWiki? Or can it
 edit multiple TiddlyWikis? Thank you for feedback.

Craig,
Our approach is the following:
We are *not* copying the empty.html around as part of our
syncronization. But we extract the raw tiddlers and sync them. That's
what gets stored on Dropbox. So you don't need to copy anything into
the DropBox Folder. Instead, the tiddlyNotesSync for TW monitors
changes and extracts them and syncs them with the tiddlers stored in
your Dropbox folder. So you need to point the tiddlyNotesSync plugin
to your Dropbox folder, need to decide what you want to do for initial
sync (merge, server, client) and that's it. The rest is covered by the
plugin or your mobile devices.

At this stage tiddlyNotes works with a single TW instance to keep the
whole interaction simple once sync is completely configured. Why would
you need multiple TW?

Mrsk

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