[tw] Re: Usable (pre-beta) version of Cardo - a new TW5 for Getting Things Done

2017-05-25 Thread @TiddlyTweeter 
Ciao David

Cardo looks very much like an app that could work well with Noteself 
 -- which gets closer to proper multi-user 
support via a syncing remote database (whilst retaining total local TW 
existence offline too). Its looks very promising.

Have you looked at it?

More recently the explicit multi-user configuration 
 has gone into testing. 

Best wishes
Josiah 

On Thursday, 25 May 2017 21:54:28 UTC+2, David Szego wrote:
>
> Hi Ward,
>
> It's no more multi-user than TW itself is, but you can add as many people 
> as you want with the "Cardo" sidebar --> "New" tab --> "Person" button. 
> Each person will have their own dashboard. If you share the file (or host 
> with Node.js) they can look at their own dashboards for their 
> tasks/projects, and assign to others as needed.
>
> Autosave is also a core TW function that can be turned on/off in the 
> Control Panel. If you share a Node.js instance, you don't have to worry 
> about pushing changes.
>
> Cheers,
> David.
>
> On Thursday, 25 May 2017 11:47:20 UTC-4, Ward Holloway wrote:
>>
>> This appears to be multi-user? Does it autosave after each change? How do 
>> you push changes to users who have the file open? Just asking.
>>
>>

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[tw] Re: Usable (pre-beta) version of Cardo - a new TW5 for Getting Things Done

2017-05-25 Thread David Szego 
Hi Ward,

It's no more multi-user than TW itself is, but you can add as many people 
as you want with the "Cardo" sidebar --> "New" tab --> "Person" button. 
Each person will have their own dashboard. If you share the file (or host 
with Node.js) they can look at their own dashboards for their 
tasks/projects, and assign to others as needed.

Autosave is also a core TW function that can be turned on/off in the 
Control Panel. If you share a Node.js instance, you don't have to worry 
about pushing changes.

Cheers,
David.

On Thursday, 25 May 2017 11:47:20 UTC-4, Ward Holloway wrote:
>
> This appears to be multi-user? Does it autosave after each change? How do 
> you push changes to users who have the file open? Just asking.
>
>

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[tw] Re: Usable (pre-beta) version of Cardo - a new TW5 for Getting Things Done

2017-05-25 Thread Ward Holloway 
This appears to be multi-user? Does it autosave after each change? How do 
you push changes to users who have the file open? Just asking.


On Friday, September 23, 2016 at 7:09:22 PM UTC-4, David Szego wrote:
>
> Hi all!
>
> So, about a month after my first announcement, I've now got a very usable 
> version of Cardo (dGSD for TW5) to share at 
>
> http://cardo.wiki
>
> Like my older dGSD for TW Classic, and mGSD before it, you can track 
> projects, tasks, meetings, agenda items, people, contact info, and 
> conversation logs. It's even nice and responsive for tablet or large-phone 
> use.
>
> There are a good few bugs yet, but nothing that would prevent you from 
> using it daily.
>
> Hoping for some good feedback! Be critical, and tell me your use cases so 
> I can get a sense of how to make it work more practically for you.
>
> Cheers,
> David.
>
>

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[tw] Re: Usable (pre-beta) version of Cardo - a new TW5 for Getting Things Done

2017-01-31 Thread Adam Houston 
I concur, ticklers in dGSD were very useful.  Especially as they were 
implemented with the +d +w +y buttons next to them to easily reschedule 
them into the future after you took care of one that was recurring.

Some food for thought:  In http://gsd5.tiddlyspot.com/ ticklers are 
something you add onto an action instead of a standalone entity.  I'm not 
sure if I like this or not just something to ponder in terms of design 
since you haven't fully implemented them.

On Thursday, September 29, 2016 at 5:37:52 PM UTC-7, Robert Edwards wrote:
>
> Thanks!
>
> Really, you don't use ticklers? That's one of the things I use most! I 
> could probably just as easily put things in my calendar (and sometimes do) 
> but having it all in the TW is handy. Examples are things like:
>
>- Every month at work I need to refresh my wifi password. I set up a 
>tickler to remind me, and the tickler contains a link to the webpage to do 
>so. Click & go!
>- A tickler fires about a week prior to birthdays, holidays, etc to 
>remind me to get gifts, cards, etc
>- There are some tasks that I have to do quarterly so I created a 
>tickler for those (and added a "quarterly" button alongside the weekly, 
>fortnightly, monthly, yearly buttons)
>- Reminders for appointments, meetings, etc -- my "Ticklers requiring 
>action" and "Upcoming ticklers (next 7 days)" lists are my most-used lists 
>of my dashboard
>
> As I said, I could put these in my calendar but having them in my 
> dashboard along with actions etc is very handy. (I've also customized the 
> dashboards somewhat). What I *can't* do with my calendar is click a 
> button in the tickler and turn it into an action item. E.g. a birthday 
> reminder tickler fires and I turn it into an errand action to get a card. 
> Another thing that my calendar doesn't do is "remember" that I've performed 
> the required task -- if I click the "+m" (or whatever) button in a tickler 
> after I've performed the task then it disappears until it's due again. A 
> reminder in a calendar however sometimes leaves me wondering "Did I do that 
> already?"
>
> Cheers!
>
> On Thursday, September 29, 2016 at 6:27:06 PM UTC-4, David Szego wrote:
>>
>> Hi Robert, great questions - and a good idea about the importer. I will 
>> definitely write one at some point in my beta stage, thanks for suggesting 
>> it. Nice to know you're an avid dGSD user too!
>>
>> Basic usage is the same as dGSD. The biggest difference is that you'll 
>> need to create new task/project/etc. Tiddlers from either the "Cardo" 
>> sidebar tab, or from the (+) or (N) buttons on existing Tiddlers.
>>
>> You shouldn't need to edit the "Review" tab at this point... it should 
>> pick up your "name for signing Tiddlers" in the TW config, and open 
>> appropriately. I'll double-check a few use cases and make sure that works 
>> right.
>>
>> Ticklers, Books, and Mail I haven't touched yet. Those will be next, 
>> probably in that order. 
>>
>> Curious - since you say you've got a "well used" dGSD, how did you find 
>> yourself using Ticklers? I never ended up using them myself, so I could use 
>> some good examples!
>>
>> Cheers,
>> David.
>>
>> On Thursday, 29 September 2016 15:28:06 UTC-4, Robert Edwards wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi David,
>>>
>>> Great work. I'm playing with it now. The first hurdle that I immediately 
>>> run into is a migration path from my well-used, well-populated TWC dGSD to 
>>> Cardo. Even if I import the tiddlers into Cardo they are in the wrong 
>>> format so don't work. A migration tool would be very helpful. Right now all 
>>> I can see to do is to abandon my dGSD in place and start clean with Cardo, 
>>> or laboriously convert/reenter everything by hand. (Once I figure out 
>>> Cardo's basic usage, that is) I realize such a tool is a huge request! 
>>> Or is there something that currently exists?
>>>
>>> Speaking of usage, I've not yet even grokked how to do the simplest 
>>> things. For example you mention editing the Review tiddler to see your 
>>> tasks. What do you mean "edit" -- actually change the code in the body of 
>>> the tiddler? Replace the "Cardo" tag with my name? Something else? I 
>>> haven't found anything that works yet
>>>
>>> Or ticklers... I can create one, but I see no way to attach a date to 
>>> it, nor a way to assign it to a person. Maybe these are done with tags but 
>>> I see no option to attach a tag. Nor can I find a tickler dashboard. Are 
>>> ticklers not yet fully implemented or am I being dense?
>>>
>>> Thanks! I'm looking forward to actually using it!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, September 23, 2016 at 7:09:22 PM UTC-4, David Szego wrote:

 Hi all!

 So, about a month after my first announcement, I've now got a very 
 usable version of Cardo (dGSD for TW5) to share at 

 http://cardo.wiki -  

 Like my older dGSD for TW Classic, and mGSD before it, you can track 
 projects, tasks,

Re: [tw] Re: Usable (pre-beta) version of Cardo - a new TW5 for Getting Things Done

2017-01-23 Thread Adam Houston 
Yes it runs as does GSD5.  I do get some pop up errors along the lines of:

syncer-browser - 17:25:31 23 1 2017

Sync error while processing 'My Task': TypeError: Cannot read property
'rev' of undefined

here and there.  Doesn't seem to affect the operation and it could be
due to me running on multiple devices.  I am just impressed it runs as
well as it does without being aware of throwing it on top of
pouch/couchdb.

On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 11:38 AM, Danielo Rodríguez  wrote:
> Dear David,
>
> I'm the couch guy :)
> Adam has already tried cardo with noteself and he reports the it works well.
> The only thing you need to get this working is going to 
> noteself.github.io/online ,install the plugin, optionally configure a remote 
> DB and click on save config and you are good to go.
>
> I published a small how to video (less than 5 minutes) that can be considered 
> a tutorial.
>
> Regards
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[tw] Re: Usable (pre-beta) version of Cardo - a new TW5 for Getting Things Done

2017-01-23 Thread Danielo Rodríguez 
Dear David,

I'm the couch guy :)
Adam has already tried cardo with noteself and he reports the it works well.
The only thing you need to get this working is going to 
noteself.github.io/online ,install the plugin, optionally configure a remote DB 
and click on save config and you are good to go.

I published a small how to video (less than 5 minutes) that can be considered a 
tutorial.

Regards

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[tw] Re: Usable (pre-beta) version of Cardo - a new TW5 for Getting Things Done

2017-01-23 Thread David Szego 


Hi Adam, nice to hear from you!


Just a quick reply, will write more when I'm home...


The main dashboard is there, under the "Cardo" sidebar tab, but I haven't 
moved any others yet. They'll be really easy to write as I broke everything 
into very small specific macros when I re-wrote it in TW5. Maybe I'll focus 
on that next.


CouchDB would be cool... It works very nicely under Node.js too... The 
NoteSelf guy is fairly focused on the CouchDB code and is quite active in 
these forums.
You should put up a post on how to integrate this (and other TW instances) 
in CloudAnt w/CouchDB - that would be useful to many.


Talk soon,
David.

On Monday, 23 January 2017 13:43:52 UTC-5, Adam Houston wrote:
>
> David.  ...
>
>- Dashboards:...
>- CouchDB version:..
>
>
>>

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[tw] Re: Usable (pre-beta) version of Cardo - a new TW5 for Getting Things Done

2017-01-23 Thread Adam Houston 
David.  Cardo is looks quite good.  I was a dGSD user for a while including 
the email import feature (I think we corresponded a couple of times 
regarding it).  I am please to see you are working on a TW5 version.  It 
seems to be fairly feature complete for a beta version.  A couple thoughts:


   - Dashboards:  I don't see the review dashboard that were is dGSD (and 
   really everything descended from the line of Monkey* TW GTD tools).  Are 
   you planning on moving them over?  I had customized a number of dashboard 
   in dGSD that made it more useful for my purposes.  What is the effort level 
   to implement them?  I am familiar with what changed in TWClassic->TW5 from 
   a user perspective but not as familiar with how the internal changes 
   affected things at a coding level.
   - CouchDB version: I had always thought that these types of GTD tools 
   really needed to be more cloud based/multi-device (multi-user would be 
   great but that has a whole other level of complexity).  I used to run mGSD 
   loaded onto tiddlyspace.com which did give some multi-device capability 
   (dGSD was not happy with this configuration).  I had also utilized Using 
   Dropbox in the sky.  However, these were slow and cumbersome.  I always 
   thought that these tools would be a good match for integration with 
   pouchdb/couchdb but did not have the time to pursue it.  Having also 
   recently noticed NoteSelf I loaded Cardo into the quick launch version last 
   week at https://noteself.github.io/online/ and plugged it into a couchdb 
   backend at cloudant.com and actually it runs surprisingly well across 
   multiple devices with no effort.  I have always liked how easy it was to 
   plug things together inside of TW :)

Thank you for your efforts,

Adam

On Friday, September 23, 2016 at 4:09:22 PM UTC-7, David Szego wrote:
>
> Hi all!
>
> So, about a month after my first announcement, I've now got a very usable 
> version of Cardo (dGSD for TW5) to share at 
>
> http://cardo.wiki
>
> Like my older dGSD for TW Classic, and mGSD before it, you can track 
> projects, tasks, meetings, agenda items, people, contact info, and 
> conversation logs. It's even nice and responsive for tablet or large-phone 
> use.
>
> There are a good few bugs yet, but nothing that would prevent you from 
> using it daily.
>
> Hoping for some good feedback! Be critical, and tell me your use cases so 
> I can get a sense of how to make it work more practically for you.
>
> Cheers,
> David.
>
>

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Re: [tw] Re: Usable (pre-beta) version of Cardo - a new TW5 for Getting Things Done

2016-11-06 Thread Pit.W. 

David,


a highly valuable tool! Thank you very much!


Kind regards,


Pit


Am 2016-11-02 um 22:51 schrieb Abramelin the Mage:

Hello,

Is it still possible to get version 1.6 of the old dGSD? I liked that 
one better.


On Saturday, 24 September 2016 01:09:22 UTC+2, David Szego wrote:

Hi all!

So, about a month after my first announcement, I've now got a very
usable version of Cardo (dGSD for TW5) to share at

http://cardo.wiki

Like my older dGSD for TW Classic, and mGSD before it, you can
track projects, tasks, meetings, agenda items, people, contact
info, and conversation logs. It's even nice and responsive for
tablet or large-phone use.

There are a good few bugs yet, but nothing that would prevent you
from using it daily.

Hoping for some good feedback! Be critical, and tell me your use
cases so I can get a sense of how to make it work more practically
for you.

Cheers,
David.

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[tw] Re: Usable (pre-beta) version of Cardo - a new TW5 for Getting Things Done

2016-11-04 Thread David Szego 

Hi Abramelin,

It sounds like many of your preferences are towards TW Classic itself and 
the plugins available rather than Cardo. I have to agree with some of 
those, I'm especially missing TagglyTagging.

I'll address the Cardo-specific points as I continue development.

For keeping track of your upcoming deadlines, click the word "Calendar" in 
the header, and you'll get a useful dropdown:



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[tw] Re: Usable (pre-beta) version of Cardo - a new TW5 for Getting Things Done

2016-11-04 Thread Abramelin the Mage 
Thank you. Here are my issues with Cardo:

   - I simply prefer TW Classic over TW5. Classic feels a lot more robust 
   to me, with barely ever any freezes, and I find it a lot prettier. And I 
   like its search better, as it provides contexts for matches rather than 
   just page titles. I'm not missing many features in Classic anyway, except 
   perhaps backlinks.
   - TagglyTagging isn't implemented as extensively in the new version, and 
   it's less accessible. The old one had a beautiful Tags menu where I could 
   quickly tag something, or browse to other tiddlers with the same tags.
   - The new version doesn't have the Quick Add feature.
   - This is probably because it's still in the alpha version, but in its 
   current state, it simply isn't functional for me. There are bugs like new 
   actions defaulting to the wrong project (I can click "new subproject" under 
   project A and yet end up with a subproject of project B), and the dashboard 
   doesn't work.
   
Which is not to say that I'm not glad there's a continued interest in the 
development of GTD implementations. I just prefer more mature projects.

A question: is it possible in dGSD 1.6 to view my upcoming deadlines?

On Thursday, 3 November 2016 16:49:56 UTC+1, David Szego wrote:
>
> Hi Abramelin, I've re-posted it at http://cardo.wiki/dGSD
>
> Would you be kind enough to tell me what you liked better? I'm always 
> looking to improve it...
>
> Cheers,
> David.
>
> On Wednesday, 2 November 2016 17:51:49 UTC-4, Abramelin the Mage wrote:
>>
>>
>> Is it still possible to get version 1.6 of the old dGSD? I liked that one 
>> better.
>>
>>

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[tw] Re: Usable (pre-beta) version of Cardo - a new TW5 for Getting Things Done

2016-11-03 Thread David Szego 
Hi Abramelin, I've re-posted it at http://cardo.wiki/dGSD

Would you be kind enough to tell me what you liked better? I'm always 
looking to improve it...

Cheers,
David.

On Wednesday, 2 November 2016 17:51:49 UTC-4, Abramelin the Mage wrote:
>
>
> Is it still possible to get version 1.6 of the old dGSD? I liked that one 
> better.
>
>

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[tw] Re: Usable (pre-beta) version of Cardo - a new TW5 for Getting Things Done

2016-11-02 Thread Abramelin the Mage 
Hello,

Is it still possible to get version 1.6 of the old dGSD? I liked that one 
better.

On Saturday, 24 September 2016 01:09:22 UTC+2, David Szego wrote:
>
> Hi all!
>
> So, about a month after my first announcement, I've now got a very usable 
> version of Cardo (dGSD for TW5) to share at 
>
> http://cardo.wiki
>
> Like my older dGSD for TW Classic, and mGSD before it, you can track 
> projects, tasks, meetings, agenda items, people, contact info, and 
> conversation logs. It's even nice and responsive for tablet or large-phone 
> use.
>
> There are a good few bugs yet, but nothing that would prevent you from 
> using it daily.
>
> Hoping for some good feedback! Be critical, and tell me your use cases so 
> I can get a sense of how to make it work more practically for you.
>
> Cheers,
> David.
>
>

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[tw] Re: Usable (pre-beta) version of Cardo - a new TW5 for Getting Things Done

2016-09-29 Thread Robert Edwards 
Thanks!

Really, you don't use ticklers? That's one of the things I use most! I 
could probably just as easily put things in my calendar (and sometimes do) 
but having it all in the TW is handy. Examples are things like:

   - Every month at work I need to refresh my wifi password. I set up a 
   tickler to remind me, and the tickler contains a link to the webpage to do 
   so. Click & go!
   - A tickler fires about a week prior to birthdays, holidays, etc to 
   remind me to get gifts, cards, etc
   - There are some tasks that I have to do quarterly so I created a 
   tickler for those (and added a "quarterly" button alongside the weekly, 
   fortnightly, monthly, yearly buttons)
   - Reminders for appointments, meetings, etc -- my "Ticklers requiring 
   action" and "Upcoming ticklers (next 7 days)" lists are my most-used lists 
   of my dashboard
   
As I said, I could put these in my calendar but having them in my dashboard 
along with actions etc is very handy. (I've also customized the dashboards 
somewhat). What I *can't* do with my calendar is click a button in the 
tickler and turn it into an action item. E.g. a birthday reminder tickler 
fires and I turn it into an errand action to get a card. Another thing that 
my calendar doesn't do is "remember" that I've performed the required task 
-- if I click the "+m" (or whatever) button in a tickler after I've 
performed the task then it disappears until it's due again. A reminder in a 
calendar however sometimes leaves me wondering "Did I do that already?"

Cheers!

On Thursday, September 29, 2016 at 6:27:06 PM UTC-4, David Szego wrote:
>
> Hi Robert, great questions - and a good idea about the importer. I will 
> definitely write one at some point in my beta stage, thanks for suggesting 
> it. Nice to know you're an avid dGSD user too!
>
> Basic usage is the same as dGSD. The biggest difference is that you'll 
> need to create new task/project/etc. Tiddlers from either the "Cardo" 
> sidebar tab, or from the (+) or (N) buttons on existing Tiddlers.
>
> You shouldn't need to edit the "Review" tab at this point... it should 
> pick up your "name for signing Tiddlers" in the TW config, and open 
> appropriately. I'll double-check a few use cases and make sure that works 
> right.
>
> Ticklers, Books, and Mail I haven't touched yet. Those will be next, 
> probably in that order. 
>
> Curious - since you say you've got a "well used" dGSD, how did you find 
> yourself using Ticklers? I never ended up using them myself, so I could use 
> some good examples!
>
> Cheers,
> David.
>
> On Thursday, 29 September 2016 15:28:06 UTC-4, Robert Edwards wrote:
>>
>> Hi David,
>>
>> Great work. I'm playing with it now. The first hurdle that I immediately 
>> run into is a migration path from my well-used, well-populated TWC dGSD to 
>> Cardo. Even if I import the tiddlers into Cardo they are in the wrong 
>> format so don't work. A migration tool would be very helpful. Right now all 
>> I can see to do is to abandon my dGSD in place and start clean with Cardo, 
>> or laboriously convert/reenter everything by hand. (Once I figure out 
>> Cardo's basic usage, that is) I realize such a tool is a huge request! 
>> Or is there something that currently exists?
>>
>> Speaking of usage, I've not yet even grokked how to do the simplest 
>> things. For example you mention editing the Review tiddler to see your 
>> tasks. What do you mean "edit" -- actually change the code in the body of 
>> the tiddler? Replace the "Cardo" tag with my name? Something else? I 
>> haven't found anything that works yet
>>
>> Or ticklers... I can create one, but I see no way to attach a date to it, 
>> nor a way to assign it to a person. Maybe these are done with tags but I 
>> see no option to attach a tag. Nor can I find a tickler dashboard. Are 
>> ticklers not yet fully implemented or am I being dense?
>>
>> Thanks! I'm looking forward to actually using it!
>>
>>
>> On Friday, September 23, 2016 at 7:09:22 PM UTC-4, David Szego wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all!
>>>
>>> So, about a month after my first announcement, I've now got a very 
>>> usable version of Cardo (dGSD for TW5) to share at 
>>>
>>> http://cardo.wiki -  
>>>
>>> Like my older dGSD for TW Classic, and mGSD before it, you can track 
>>> projects, tasks, meetings, agenda items, people, contact info, and 
>>> conversation logs. It's even nice and responsive for tablet or large-phone 
>>> use.
>>>
>>> There are a good few bugs yet, but nothing that would prevent you from 
>>> using it daily.
>>>
>>> Hoping for some good feedback! Be critical, and tell me your use cases 
>>> so I can get a sense of how to make it work more practically for you.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> David.
>>>
>>>

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2016-09-29 Thread David Szego 
Hi Tobias, as always thanks for the considered feedback!

I have moved the PageTemplate into the Theme and cleaned up wrapping, 
popups and most other CSS .. I hope! I will post 1.0a10 tonight or 
tomorrow. 

Default contexts - good points, but I want to avoid too many plugins. You 
already need Cardo, moment.js, datepicker, and Cardo Theme... Maybe a 
button in the Cardo --> Maintenance tab to remove the defaults? 

Speaking of "bundles"... two questions you'd know the answer to:
1. what are "Bags"? 
2. can plugins (shadow packages) be packaged in other plugins? I'd love to 
include moment and datepicker, but not sure if they'll get unpacked and 
executed properly.

Thanks,
David.

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[tw] Re: Usable (pre-beta) version of Cardo - a new TW5 for Getting Things Done

2016-09-29 Thread David Szego 
Hi Robert, great questions - and a good idea about the importer. I will 
definitely write one at some point in my beta stage, thanks for suggesting 
it. Nice to know you're an avid dGSD user too!

Basic usage is the same as dGSD. The biggest difference is that you'll need 
to create new task/project/etc. Tiddlers from either the "Cardo" sidebar 
tab, or from the (+) or (N) buttons on existing Tiddlers.

You shouldn't need to edit the "Review" tab at this point... it should pick 
up your "name for signing Tiddlers" in the TW config, and open 
appropriately. I'll double-check a few use cases and make sure that works 
right.

Ticklers, Books, and Mail I haven't touched yet. Those will be next, 
probably in that order. 

Curious - since you say you've got a "well used" dGSD, how did you find 
yourself using Ticklers? I never ended up using them myself, so I could use 
some good examples!

Cheers,
David.

On Thursday, 29 September 2016 15:28:06 UTC-4, Robert Edwards wrote:
>
> Hi David,
>
> Great work. I'm playing with it now. The first hurdle that I immediately 
> run into is a migration path from my well-used, well-populated TWC dGSD to 
> Cardo. Even if I import the tiddlers into Cardo they are in the wrong 
> format so don't work. A migration tool would be very helpful. Right now all 
> I can see to do is to abandon my dGSD in place and start clean with Cardo, 
> or laboriously convert/reenter everything by hand. (Once I figure out 
> Cardo's basic usage, that is) I realize such a tool is a huge request! 
> Or is there something that currently exists?
>
> Speaking of usage, I've not yet even grokked how to do the simplest 
> things. For example you mention editing the Review tiddler to see your 
> tasks. What do you mean "edit" -- actually change the code in the body of 
> the tiddler? Replace the "Cardo" tag with my name? Something else? I 
> haven't found anything that works yet
>
> Or ticklers... I can create one, but I see no way to attach a date to it, 
> nor a way to assign it to a person. Maybe these are done with tags but I 
> see no option to attach a tag. Nor can I find a tickler dashboard. Are 
> ticklers not yet fully implemented or am I being dense?
>
> Thanks! I'm looking forward to actually using it!
>
>
> On Friday, September 23, 2016 at 7:09:22 PM UTC-4, David Szego wrote:
>>
>> Hi all!
>>
>> So, about a month after my first announcement, I've now got a very usable 
>> version of Cardo (dGSD for TW5) to share at 
>>
>> http://cardo.wiki -  
>>
>> Like my older dGSD for TW Classic, and mGSD before it, you can track 
>> projects, tasks, meetings, agenda items, people, contact info, and 
>> conversation logs. It's even nice and responsive for tablet or large-phone 
>> use.
>>
>> There are a good few bugs yet, but nothing that would prevent you from 
>> using it daily.
>>
>> Hoping for some good feedback! Be critical, and tell me your use cases so 
>> I can get a sense of how to make it work more practically for you.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> David.
>>
>>

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[tw] Re: Usable (pre-beta) version of Cardo - a new TW5 for Getting Things Done

2016-09-29 Thread Robert Edwards 
Hi David,

Great work. I'm playing with it now. The first hurdle that I immediately 
run into is a migration path from my well-used, well-populated TWC dGSD to 
Cardo. Even if I import the tiddlers into Cardo they are in the wrong 
format so don't work. A migration tool would be very helpful. Right now all 
I can see to do is to abandon my dGSD in place and start clean with Cardo, 
or laboriously convert/reenter everything by hand. (Once I figure out 
Cardo's basic usage, that is) I realize such a tool is a huge request! 
Or is there something that currently exists?

Speaking of usage, I've not yet even grokked how to do the simplest things. 
For example you mention editing the Review tiddler to see your tasks. What 
do you mean "edit" -- actually change the code in the body of the tiddler? 
Replace the "Cardo" tag with my name? Something else? I haven't found 
anything that works yet

Thanks! I'm looking forward to actually using it!


On Friday, September 23, 2016 at 7:09:22 PM UTC-4, David Szego wrote:
>
> Hi all!
>
> So, about a month after my first announcement, I've now got a very usable 
> version of Cardo (dGSD for TW5) to share at 
>
> http://cardo.wiki
>
> Like my older dGSD for TW Classic, and mGSD before it, you can track 
> projects, tasks, meetings, agenda items, people, contact info, and 
> conversation logs. It's even nice and responsive for tablet or large-phone 
> use.
>
> There are a good few bugs yet, but nothing that would prevent you from 
> using it daily.
>
> Hoping for some good feedback! Be critical, and tell me your use cases so 
> I can get a sense of how to make it work more practically for you.
>
> Cheers,
> David.
>
>

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[tw] Re: Usable (pre-beta) version of Cardo - a new TW5 for Getting Things Done

2016-09-29 Thread Tobias Beer 
Hi David,

Thanks for taking it upon you to try and package Cardo as a plugin.

Some things I noticed...

   1. popups are broken
  - e.g. open sidebar tiddlers / tags and click on one
  - or click on the Cardo tag and see how you can't scroll all the way 
  down
   2. I don't think your default contexts should be packaged into the plugin
  - e.g. a French Cardo'ist probably won't have a context called @House 
  but rather @Maison
  - so, there appears to be some "basic setup" tiddlers that should be 
  some form of bundle, not a plugin
  - and actually loaded as such into a wiki, as a collection of 
 exported tiddlers
 - the should probably not be tagged Cardo, but *Cardo Defaults* or 
 some such
 - I would personally see your modified PageTemplate in the same 
 bucket
  3. Secondary tab buttons in the sidebar are still wrapping within the 
   words
  - even after switching to the Vanilla theme
  - so these styles must reside somewhere other than the Cardo theme
   
Best wishes,

Tobias.

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[tw] Re: Usable (pre-beta) version of Cardo - a new TW5 for Getting Things Done

2016-09-28 Thread David Szego 

Finally packaged it as a proper Plugin, and reposted on cardo.wiki ...

If you want a nice clean upgrade, drag the "Delete Cardo" Tiddler from 
cardo.wiki into yours, import it and click the button on it. Your data will 
be intact.

Then click "Get Cardo" and drag the plugin(s) over to your TW file, 
save/reload, and you're set!

You may want to use the Cardo theme, and I kinda like my Cardo Cappucino 
palette! ;->

If you find your data isn't showing up right, go to the "Cardo" tab in the 
sidebar. You will find a "Maintenance" sub-tab, with some useful buttons.

Cheers,
David.

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[tw] Re: Usable (pre-beta) version of Cardo - a new TW5 for Getting Things Done

2016-09-25 Thread PJO 
I meant, of course, in the use case I described that realms aren't needed.

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[tw] Re: Usable (pre-beta) version of Cardo - a new TW5 for Getting Things Done

2016-09-25 Thread PJO 
I took a quick look which was all I had time for. I tried many different 
tools before settling on a combination of MLO (MyLifeOrganized.net) and a 
very simple TiddlyWiki of my own. If you haven't seen it I think MLO is 
worth a look because it seems to me to be the most flexible and most 
attractive GTD tool and it would be my point of reference for a comparison. 
I run it on Windows and Linux (using WINE) and on my Android phone.

What MLO isn't is free and open source and completely platform independent 
(runs on IOS but not OSX). A use case that is an unmet need for me at the 
moment is a simple free tool for facilitating the work of the management 
committee of a building, and I know of dozens of residents' 
associations/management companies who share the need and who are currently 
making do with various combinations of shoeboxes, paper, spreadsheets, word 
documents, email (in particular), box/dropbox, google calendar. I'm sure 
there must be many similar use cases -- clubs with little or no money and 
the like, whose members do not all use the same operating systems. 

At a glance, the interface seemed a bit like a cockpit with a lot of 
information and options that might be daunting to someone not already 
familiar with it or with GTD ideas (I recently saw and liked, I think it 
was in NoteSelf, a Simple/Advanced button to hide some details). I will 
keep an eye on it and if I can find time to provide more specific 
suggestions on, perhaps, simplifications (e.g., for the case described 
there's really only one area: the building).

Other quick comments: I'd avoid the word tiddler and use card (e.g,. blank 
card). My committee isn't familiar with TiddlyWiki, nor all native speakers 
of English. A focus on "we" in place of "I" would better reflect a shared 
agenda. Realms aren't needed at all.

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[tw] Re: Usable (pre-beta) version of Cardo - a new TW5 for Getting Things Done

2016-09-25 Thread Thomas Elmiger 


> Hi Thomas, thanks for your feedback. 
>
You are very welcome.
 

> How do you see yourself using it?
>
Like Jed, I thought I might copy some of your features or get inspired for 
my own personal tools and plugins – after reading your explanations I find 
the GUID part most interesting at the moment. Tracking dependencies without 
worrying about title changes sounds very promising. 

Furthermore I hope to adopt standards defined by leading TW5 solutions … It 
would be great if users could switch from one ToDo tool to another without 
hassle and keep their tiddlers. So if for example I would find your format 
for tracking people is the leading format in this area I would work with 
your "standard".

Cheers, Thomas 
 

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[tw] Re: Usable (pre-beta) version of Cardo - a new TW5 for Getting Things Done

2016-09-24 Thread David Someone 
Tobias, thank you very much for such a long and considered review - and 
also I have to thank you for all the help you've given me (indirectly!) 
through all your posts in these forums!

I'll reply inline... there's a lot to go through.

On Saturday, 24 September 2016 05:25:50 UTC-4, Tobias Beer wrote:
 

> Did you find yourself having to write a lot of custom js plugin code?
>

Surprisingly, no! Almost everything is in fairly standard macros! This was 
actually really pleasing to me as I started by rewriting the original dGSD 
Javascript macros (which were expansions of Simon Baird's code), inserting 
widgets and child widgets, doing select cases and conditionals, etc. and 
realized that approach was too hard, mostly from the TW5 learning curve (I 
am really *not* a programmer!).
When I approached it through macros, I got a lot further ahead very 
quickly. The only real limit was the complete lack of conditionals in TW5, 
so I found it much easier to write a separate macro for each type of task 
or project list I needed.

I did have to write 5 new filters:

$:/plugins/Cardo/filters/daysOrEmpty.js 
 $:/plugins/Cardo/filters/fieldContains.js 
 $:/plugins/Cardo/filters/fieldOrEmpty.js 
 $:/plugins/Cardo/filters/tagOrEmpty.js

These 4 are the same as the built-ins, but if they are passed a blank 
variable, they will simply pass everything through to the next filter. This 
lets me say filter="[field:someField[$variable$]]" but if $variable$ is 
blank, it won't fail, it'll just be ignored.

$:/plugins/Cardo/filters/regexStr.js 

This is almost the built-in regexp.js, but instead of returning Tiddlers 
matching the results of the regex, it returns the results of acting on the 
string passed to it. I'm using it to do a filter like:

filter="[regexStr[\w{8}-\w{4}-4\w{3}-\w{4}-\w{12}]]">

and get a more flexible version of the "prefix" and "suffix" filters, 
because I couldn't do "[field:cardo-personguid[remove[suffix]]]" 
or something like it. 
Now I can take the field value 
"e93824f0-c1db-4ae2-8777-4010174e2ea3--Accountable" 
and extract the GUID from it.

Speaking of which... 
One area I did heavily deviate from standard TiddlyWiki was in the 
identification of Tiddlers. Whereas normally you link to a Tiddler's title, 
I realized early that doing this would break too many things. So I built a 
GUID generator, 

$:/plugins/Cardo/macros/guid.js 

which takes the best from a StackOverflow thread and generates unique ID's 
for every Person, Task, Project, and other Cardo type.  
The reason is that I can now change a Tiddler's name without breaking the 
many interrelations between the different types.
I may want to correct a person's name by renaming their Tiddler, but I 
certainly don't want to reassign them all their tasks.


Other than that, I had to override core/ui/ViewTemplate and EditTemplate to 
select which custom template to show based on whether the Tiddler 
"[has[cardo-type]]", or is just a plain Tiddler. The rest is all macros and 
standard TW5!
 

>
>1. Are you planning to package everything as a CarDo plugin?
>
> Yes, currently everything is named $:/plugins/Cardo/xxx and 
$:theme/Cardo/xxx ... I will put them all in one big Tiddler when it's 
ready to do so.
As well, anything Cardo-specific is tagged "Cardo", so I can just export 
"[tag[Cardo]]" for upgrades, or delete them to remove (until of course I 
package it properly).

>
>1. Rather than be an entire edition defining the entire wiki 
>experience,
>I think I would favor if CarDo was more of a plugin to TiddlyWiki
>   - Did you consider this approach and if yes, what made you decide 
>   against that?
>
> Agreed - I would likely have two plugins - the Cardo functionality itself, 
and the theme which makes it look like an edition of it's own. My approach 
is decidely "Edition"-based, because I want it to be a piece of software. 
This is my own little Basecamp, my Wunderlist or AnyDo, but moreso. I feel 
that TW is more of a framework (very, very powerful one!) than a UI or a 
layout.

But I do want to appeal to a wide audience, so making it theme-friendly is 
indeed a goal, albeit for later.

>
>- For example, I think all CarDo tabs should be under a main CarDo tab 
>   in the sidebar
>  - and if one ends up having that open all the time, fine
>  
>
>1. possibly, CarDo could provide its own sidebar or action panel
>   - rather than try and squeeze all that stuff into the sidebar
>   
> That's a thought... especially for a non-edition version. I was actually 
thinking of incorporating the 3-State-Sidebar plugin I saw, to make a 
full-width Card, with a very narrow sidebar of only 48x48 buttons for new 
Tiddlers, your dashboard, review, etc. But that's more Edition-based.
 

>
>- perhaps it's also just a matter of styles, e.g. that centered text 
>   in the *Tools* tab
>  - which I don't find to be a good design choice
>  
>  1. I tend to agree with Jed,

[tw] Re: Usable (pre-beta) version of Cardo - a new TW5 for Getting Things Done

2016-09-24 Thread David Someone 
Hi Jed, please do feel free to pull out pieces! That's the beauty of open 
source code! Would love to see what you do with it.

I haven't yet integrated it with the Themes and Palettes in TiddlyWiki... 
I'm hardcoding my own colours (which are roughly based on the "Smoke" 
palette). As per your comments and Tobias's below, I do plan to make it 
very theme-friendly, but after the functionality is all ironed out.

Making lists single-column but wider would likely help too... I may put 
that in as a "Theme Tweaks" checkbox or something. I would love your input 
as it's developed further. You're not so uncommon a user as you may think, 
and I do want it to appeal to a wide audience.

If you can give me an example of a theme that works for you, or some 
description of what layouts become confusing and what makes them clearer, I 
would be very interested in integrating your feedback.

Thanks,
David.

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[tw] Re: Usable (pre-beta) version of Cardo - a new TW5 for Getting Things Done

2016-09-24 Thread David Someone 
Hi Thomas, thanks for your feedback. 

The "My Dashboard" button links to whatever Tiddler is set with your 
signing name in Control Panel - in otherwords, to the content of 
"$:/status/UserName". This can be changed by editing the "Review" Tiddler.

I made dGSD out of personal need as a Project Manager, and although I'm not 
formally in that role, I use Cardo in that capacity to manage my teams and 
projects at work, and more simply (no RACI's, status updates, etc.) as a 
To-Do manager for my home projects and little side things (like writing 
Cardo itself!). 

I will eventually explore the "bag" functions of TiddlyWiki as well as 
login/logout, to make a truly multi-user based Cardo, showing only Tiddlers 
from your "bag", or where you are assigned a Task, or for Projects you're a 
member of. But that's future stuff...

Generally I use it for formal Project Management by:
- Using Project Tiddlers to keep track of overall status, including adding 
updates in the Status list (which I can refer back to and report from)
- Managing my teams (which could be 10-20 people) through the RACI chart 
(Project Team list)
- Managing individuals who report to me by using their Person Tiddlers to 
track what's been delegated to them, and for contact info / conversation 
logging / staff management
- Meetings get put onto the appropriate Projects, and if it's a one-topic 
deal I just keep track of my notes in the body of the meeting, or if it's 
more widespread I add Agenda Items
- In dGSD I kept track of who attended and what was discussed by the 
checkboxes beside Agenda Items and Meeting Attendees - that functionality 
isn't in Cardo yet, but will be soon.

All in all, it makes for a very useful tool for me as PM, staff manager, 
etc. but it's still just me tracking everything. Making it multiuser as 
described above would really help the whole team contribute.
 
How do you see yourself using it?

Cheers,
David.

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[tw] Re: Usable (pre-beta) version of Cardo - a new TW5 for Getting Things Done

2016-09-24 Thread Tobias Beer 
Hi David,

Teriffic piece of work!

Some feedback, some criticism, and some questions out of curiosity:

   1. Did you find yourself having to write a lot of custom js plugin code?
   
   2. Are you planning to package everything as a CarDo plugin?
  - This probably also answers the question how one later upgrades to a 
  newer version.
  - It also answers what parts are designed to be configurable / 
  extensible and which parts aren't.
  
  3. Rather than be an entire edition defining the entire wiki 
   experience,
   I think I would favor if CarDo was more of a plugin to TiddlyWiki
  - Did you consider this approach and if yes, what made you decide 
  against that?
  - For example, I think all CarDo tabs should be under a main CarDo 
  tab in the sidebar
 - and if one ends up having that open all the time, fine
 
 4. possibly, CarDo could provide its own sidebar or action panel
  - rather than try and squeeze all that stuff into the sidebar
  - perhaps it's also just a matter of styles, e.g. that centered text 
  in the *Tools* tab
 - which I don't find to be a good design choice
 
 5. I tend to agree with Jed, that CarDo would benefit from as 
   little css / style modifications as necessary
  - i.e. for it to look more like a "Stock-TiddlyWiki"
  - for example, I don't quite fancy how the sidebar is fixed and very 
  narrow
  - I find words that wrap anywhere highly off-putting (those veritcal 
 tab buttons in the sidebar)
 - also, switching to a fixed story apparently breaks the layout so 
 that the story covers the sidebar
  - it slightly appears that rather than be mobile friendly you tweaked 
  some core layout elements
  to by default always assume smaller screens
 - e.g. those vertical secondary tabs in the control panel or 
 sidebar
 - I would abstain from such overall UI changes and leave it to 
 everyone else
 to change that as desired and suit their device needs
 - or wait for the core to provide an even more adaptive experience
- or only apply those changes for a screen size smaller than X 
pixels
- in other words, CarDo suggesting new design paradigms appears 
 to me
 to be something that users may not want and so it could be a reason
 why some may refrain from using an otherwise great productivity 
 tool altogether
 
 6. a little bug, I think: scroll to *Project Team* and click *N*
  - scroll back down and see how now *all* tiddlers are 
  erroneously listed as RACI team members
  
  7. I would name the Intake tab simply *New* because that's what it 
   does, it allows to create new pre-defined elements
  - and would make the tab button shorter
  - which would renaming the tab *Tiddlers* to *Core* likewise achieve
 
 8. Are you planning a documentation edition for CarDo?
  - I believe intermingling demo data and instructions in one go isn't 
  quite the best approach
  - for example: How to change the RACI 
   
  pattern to one's personal preference / needs?
   9. I would also very much want an empty edition w/o any demo setup / 
   tiddlers at all.
   
Personally, I probably won't be using CarDo,
as xGSD felt slightly overbearing to me.
I would possibly tend to a UX
that does not show everything all the time,
which atm feels overwhelming / distracting to me.

On the other hand, I do understand how it may be quicker
to have all the necessary controls visible at all times
at a defined spot, rather than having to search for that checkbox
burried in some "more CarDo" slider or some bottom-tabs.

On the other hand,
if you think of CarDo more as an extension,
then that's what you would want, e.g. to:

   - know all the bells and whistles of it
  - which make CarDo a gr8 productivity enhancement
   - which are at your fingertips when you need them
   - but *only then*
   - and you know where to find them
  - intuitively so
   
Best wishes,

Tobias.

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[tw] Re: Usable (pre-beta) version of Cardo - a new TW5 for Getting Things Done

2016-09-24 Thread Jed Carty 
It looks nice and polished and if it is ok with you I may try to pull out 
pieces of it as part of a set of federated wikis I am using with the other 
people I work with to track projects, if that is ok with you.

Now the critical part. I can't use this the way it is right now. I suspect 
that my dyslexia is the main reason for it, you have stumbled onto a set of 
colors and combination of lines and outlines that makes it very hard for me 
to see so my problems with it may be things that aren't generally a concern 
for people. It is very visually cluttered for me, the discussions display 
for TWederation (http://twederation.tiddlyspot.com/) is about as cluttered 
as I can make something before it gets to be too much for me and I am 
probably going to make that higher contrast sometime soon. My suggestion 
for this is to make something that works for you but set everything up so 
that users can change the styling without too much trouble.

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