[tw5] Re: Pin Unpin Posts
Mark, you say We have rules because rules are the fairest way to decide things. Without > rules all you have is politics. > I think that is not only over simplified but cynical, actually there is a lot of cynicism driving change here not evidence. Who makes the rules and are they fair?, rules are Not always the fairest way to decide things, humans should decide not pre-coded rules. This is not a democracy. There are socially mediated rules and there is the the black letter law, I understand it is harder for people to understand how humans already have sophisticated social systems, which can be used to self moderate online systems, but most people only understand hard rules and enforcers. Just like political dictatorial systems deny our humanity, and restrict creativity. I do not want to say "I told you so" but I will later if this belief in moderation continues to expand. I spent a number of years building a network upto 45,000 people with only guidelines not moderation, then decisions were made by someone who did not understand the network and it began to erode. I feel it is my duty to speak out on this, but it is uncomfortable, because the next phase could be deletion of my words. I am not making comment on Eric's genuine management of pinning. Sincerely Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/6617b6ac-6b5b-40af-b891-24cd0781d785%40googlegroups.com.
[tw5] Re: Pin Unpin Posts
On Monday, December 9, 2019 at 9:59:19 AM UTC-8, Mark S. wrote: > > There's a pinned item that has had no activity for 3 days. > Like Eric pointed out, there really is no need for pinning items of > general interest. They will rise to the top as interest is generated. > But definitely, when no one has responded to a thread after 3 days, it > should be unpinned. > I have just unpinned the two remaining "user pinned" threads. If you want to re-pin those threads... just ask (and provide the reason!). Otherwise, just let the posting activity determine their placement in the list of topics I have left the "...be generous" thread pinned until the end of the year, as previously requested by Tony. -e -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/c6bf428f-c706-4e68-9056-b38431050755%40googlegroups.com.
[tw5] Re: Pin Unpin Posts
I don't know what you're seeing, but the fundraiser item has had responses in the last 24 hours. We have rules because rules are the fairest way to decide things. Without rules all you have is politics. On Monday, December 9, 2019 at 5:00:32 PM UTC-8, TonyM wrote: Mark, > > You may have not being intending to refer to the fundraiser thread but you > said > > But definitely, when no one has responded to a thread after 3 days, it >> should be unpinned. > > > Then you asked for comments. > > This is the problem with deciding on rules, if taken as black and white > they have negative consequences and suppress flexibility. > > Just my view > Tony > > > On Tuesday, December 10, 2019 at 11:41:29 AM UTC+11, Mark S. wrote: >> >> Wasn't referring to the fund raiser. >> >> >> On Monday, December 9, 2019 at 3:17:36 PM UTC-8, TonyM wrote: >>> >>> Mark, >>> >>> As I have said previously "guidelines not rules". 2-3 days may be >>> reasonable but I think the fund raiser post deserves longer. The "Exception >>> [tests] the rule". Perhaps it would be easier to try [a guideline] and >>> limit pins to a maximum of 5 or less, that is manage the real estate you >>> talk about, not set another arbitrary limit the time. >>> >>> I think "computer people" (myself included) sometime think a little too >>> "black and white" because we are used to asking computers to do things for >>> us. Vibrant communities however benefit more from open, generous and >>> collaborative use of social skills we have evolved as a species. >>> >>> This maps to a real world concern of mine where government and lawmakers >>> have "mandatory" sentences. Removing discretion from Judges and Jurys means >>> a lack of justice because they can no longer respond the the facts of a >>> case. In fact its shown they are more likely to rule "not guilty" if they >>> feel the punishment is unfair. >>> >>> I do feel a little shy voicing this because I know people can have >>> "strong ideas", all I ask is we follow our nose and let the community >>> evolve rather than "behaviour" being written into stone (rules). I believe >>> strongly that this openness and flexibility is why so many people with >>> innovative thinking are here. >>> >>> Regards >>> Tony >>> >>> On Tuesday, December 10, 2019 at 4:59:19 AM UTC+11, Mark S. wrote: There's a pinned item that has had no activity for 3 days. Like Eric pointed out, there really is no need for pinning items of general interest. They will rise to the top as interest is generated. But definitely, when no one has responded to a thread after 3 days, it should be unpinned. Pinning means taking up real estate and significance from new posts, in particular posts from users looking for help. Maybe pinning an announcement of a significant new tool for a couple days makes sense. But after that, it will become "self-pinning" if it is as useful as its posters believe. I kind of think the "two day rule" is reasonable. Thoughts? >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/a2e063e6-dc7d-4ce0-a5aa-1c0a7194d305%40googlegroups.com.
[tw5] Re: Pin Unpin Posts
Mark, You may have not being intending to refer to the fundraiser thread but you said But definitely, when no one has responded to a thread after 3 days, it > should be unpinned. Then you asked for comments. This is the problem with deciding on rules, if taken as black and white they have negative consequences and suppress flexibility. Just my view Tony On Tuesday, December 10, 2019 at 11:41:29 AM UTC+11, Mark S. wrote: > > Wasn't referring to the fund raiser. > > > On Monday, December 9, 2019 at 3:17:36 PM UTC-8, TonyM wrote: >> >> Mark, >> >> As I have said previously "guidelines not rules". 2-3 days may be >> reasonable but I think the fund raiser post deserves longer. The "Exception >> [tests] the rule". Perhaps it would be easier to try [a guideline] and >> limit pins to a maximum of 5 or less, that is manage the real estate you >> talk about, not set another arbitrary limit the time. >> >> I think "computer people" (myself included) sometime think a little too >> "black and white" because we are used to asking computers to do things for >> us. Vibrant communities however benefit more from open, generous and >> collaborative use of social skills we have evolved as a species. >> >> This maps to a real world concern of mine where government and lawmakers >> have "mandatory" sentences. Removing discretion from Judges and Jurys means >> a lack of justice because they can no longer respond the the facts of a >> case. In fact its shown they are more likely to rule "not guilty" if they >> feel the punishment is unfair. >> >> I do feel a little shy voicing this because I know people can have >> "strong ideas", all I ask is we follow our nose and let the community >> evolve rather than "behaviour" being written into stone (rules). I believe >> strongly that this openness and flexibility is why so many people with >> innovative thinking are here. >> >> Regards >> Tony >> >> On Tuesday, December 10, 2019 at 4:59:19 AM UTC+11, Mark S. wrote: >>> >>> There's a pinned item that has had no activity for 3 days. >>> >>> Like Eric pointed out, there really is no need for pinning items of >>> general interest. They will rise to the top as interest is generated. >>> >>> But definitely, when no one has responded to a thread after 3 days, it >>> should be unpinned. >>> >>> Pinning means taking up real estate and significance from new posts, in >>> particular posts from users looking for help. Maybe pinning an announcement >>> of a significant new tool for a couple days makes sense. But after that, it >>> will become "self-pinning" if it is as useful as its posters believe. >>> >>> I kind of think the "two day rule" is reasonable. Thoughts? >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/b0cf2c1d-fffe-416b-a1da-d51c66959395%40googlegroups.com.
[tw5] Re: Pin Unpin Posts
Wasn't referring to the fund raiser. On Monday, December 9, 2019 at 3:17:36 PM UTC-8, TonyM wrote: > > Mark, > > As I have said previously "guidelines not rules". 2-3 days may be > reasonable but I think the fund raiser post deserves longer. The "Exception > [tests] the rule". Perhaps it would be easier to try [a guideline] and > limit pins to a maximum of 5 or less, that is manage the real estate you > talk about, not set another arbitrary limit the time. > > I think "computer people" (myself included) sometime think a little too > "black and white" because we are used to asking computers to do things for > us. Vibrant communities however benefit more from open, generous and > collaborative use of social skills we have evolved as a species. > > This maps to a real world concern of mine where government and lawmakers > have "mandatory" sentences. Removing discretion from Judges and Jurys means > a lack of justice because they can no longer respond the the facts of a > case. In fact its shown they are more likely to rule "not guilty" if they > feel the punishment is unfair. > > I do feel a little shy voicing this because I know people can have "strong > ideas", all I ask is we follow our nose and let the community evolve rather > than "behaviour" being written into stone (rules). I believe strongly that > this openness and flexibility is why so many people with innovative > thinking are here. > > Regards > Tony > > On Tuesday, December 10, 2019 at 4:59:19 AM UTC+11, Mark S. wrote: >> >> There's a pinned item that has had no activity for 3 days. >> >> Like Eric pointed out, there really is no need for pinning items of >> general interest. They will rise to the top as interest is generated. >> >> But definitely, when no one has responded to a thread after 3 days, it >> should be unpinned. >> >> Pinning means taking up real estate and significance from new posts, in >> particular posts from users looking for help. Maybe pinning an announcement >> of a significant new tool for a couple days makes sense. But after that, it >> will become "self-pinning" if it is as useful as its posters believe. >> >> I kind of think the "two day rule" is reasonable. Thoughts? >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/2560fa2d-d33a-4ceb-b4f7-4f111770e260%40googlegroups.com.
[tw5] Re: Pin Unpin Posts
Mark, As I have said previously "guidelines not rules". 2-3 days may be reasonable but I think the fund raiser post deserves longer. The "Exception [tests] the rule". Perhaps it would be easier to try [a guideline] and limit pins to a maximum of 5 or less, that is manage the real estate you talk about, not set another arbitrary limit the time. I think "computer people" (myself included) sometime think a little too "black and white" because we are used to asking computers to do things for us. Vibrant communities however benefit more from open, generous and collaborative use of social skills we have evolved as a species. This maps to a real world concern of mine where government and lawmakers have "mandatory" sentences. Removing discretion from Judges and Jurys means a lack of justice because they can no longer respond the the facts of a case. In fact its shown they are more likely to rule "not guilty" if they feel the punishment is unfair. I do feel a little shy voicing this because I know people can have "strong ideas", all I ask is we follow our nose and let the community evolve rather than "behaviour" being written into stone (rules). I believe strongly that this openness and flexibility is why so many people with innovative thinking are here. Regards Tony On Tuesday, December 10, 2019 at 4:59:19 AM UTC+11, Mark S. wrote: > > There's a pinned item that has had no activity for 3 days. > > Like Eric pointed out, there really is no need for pinning items of > general interest. They will rise to the top as interest is generated. > > But definitely, when no one has responded to a thread after 3 days, it > should be unpinned. > > Pinning means taking up real estate and significance from new posts, in > particular posts from users looking for help. Maybe pinning an announcement > of a significant new tool for a couple days makes sense. But after that, it > will become "self-pinning" if it is as useful as its posters believe. > > I kind of think the "two day rule" is reasonable. Thoughts? > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/8d3527b4-50e1-45f6-a366-f69c766cb76f%40googlegroups.com.
[tw5] Re: Pin Unpin Posts
There's a pinned item that has had no activity for 3 days. Like Eric pointed out, there really is no need for pinning items of general interest. They will rise to the top as interest is generated. But definitely, when no one has responded to a thread after 3 days, it should be unpinned. Pinning means taking up real estate and significance from new posts, in particular posts from users looking for help. Maybe pinning an announcement of a significant new tool for a couple days makes sense. But after that, it will become "self-pinning" if it is as useful as its posters believe. I kind of think the "two day rule" is reasonable. Thoughts? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/a1ce62dd-b53c-400f-b096-4c7ddb388395%40googlegroups.com.
[tw5] Re: Pin Unpin Posts
In other words you will get the "snip" (anagram) TT Ste Wilson wrote: > > The topic of pins seem to have pricked and needled some people, this is > knit good, we must be able to stitch something together sew I'll stop as > I've run out of puns. :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/6918675b-8bde-42a5-a2c7-715028391b26%40googlegroups.com.
[tw5] Re: Pin Unpin Posts
You're keeping us on puns and noodles. Glad you took a stab at it. On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 3:32:43 AM UTC-8, Ste Wilson wrote: > > The topic of pins seem to have pricked and needled some people, this is > knit good, we must be able to stitch something together sew I'll stop as > I've run out of puns. :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/07b0208e-b891-4829-8258-6c2617cd37ef%40googlegroups.com.
[tw5] Re: Pin Unpin Posts
The topic of pins seem to have pricked and needled some people, this is knit good, we must be able to stitch something together sew I'll stop as I've run out of puns. :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/9d901f16-b750-4095-aa27-1cf731c96a96%40googlegroups.com.
[tw5] Re: Pin Unpin Posts
Hi Tony! You are totally right! restricting people without explaining them and educating in advance never come to a better result! Also during the period members were allowed to pin, I noted few items wrongly pinned! These could be solved by ADMINS first by sending a short explanation through private posts, then unpin. One question remains in my mind: In open source project while many people contribute, what rights they have? Nothing!! --Mohammad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/9ab91b77-b8b7-4f76-baa3-6d4fcba7a251%40googlegroups.com.
[tw5] Re: Pin Unpin Posts
Bit of a storm in a tea cup I had never pinned anything before. Found I could and assumed it was private. Two other pins occurred then I found out it was public and started a pin exit plan. As far as I can see this has being the extent of pins in the last year or more so, with respect, I suggest education before restricting or dictating. This is only my opinion but I have seen dozens of forums fail by the overzelouse slippery slope arguements that gradually disable features, create moderator roles where none were necessary, all due to perceived only possibilities. As soon as you remove member responsibility you stop them taking responsibility. By the way my two pins received substantial contributions as a result, to a community wide need. Please solve problems by education first, not reducing things to an imaginary lowest common denominator. Sincerly Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/c508d140-c1c8-4d3c-9e04-60f08190be15%40googlegroups.com.
[tw5] Re: Pin Unpin Posts
Ciao tutti I'm not adverse to someone pinning an announcement for a few days. Like a plugin release. I thought Mohammad handled his pins fine. It's the problem of it being overused just because you can pin, which would quickly prevent it being useful by overwhelm. There could be be case for a pinned thread on how to find older posts here, which is not that easy. I been working on one. But that could be looked at and an admin pin it if it proved useful. Best TT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/f666a0c7-d37b-4e39-9623-ba05f18abbc2%40googlegroups.com.
[tw5] Re: Pin Unpin Posts
I see how we star replies. But where do we star a topic? Thanks! On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 7:11:44 AM UTC-8, PMario wrote: > > On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 3:45:56 PM UTC+1, Mark S. wrote: > > >> In an ideal world, everyone could pin their own favorite thread, and it >> would be pinned ONLY in their own feed. >> > > That's what "stars" are for. You can star stuff per thread or per reply. I > use this mechanism since my first post to this group. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/5757d1fa-64ca-4a40-a3a0-2ca4fa19cabe%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [tw5] Re: Pin Unpin Posts
On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 7:17:02 AM UTC-8, Jeremy Ruston wrote: > > Just to add that Google Groups doesn't appear to support a separate > permission setting for pinning; as far as I can tell from poking around in > the admin settings, anyone with posting permission can pin posts. > It might be controlled as part of the "Permissions > Posting Permissions > Moderate metadata" setting. -e -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/2b037e3f-86c6-43db-b36a-442c25b8513d%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [tw5] Re: Pin Unpin Posts
Just to add that Google Groups doesn't appear to support a separate permission setting for pinning; as far as I can tell from poking around in the admin settings, anyone with posting permission can pin posts. Best wishes Jeremy -- Jeremy Ruston jer...@jermolene.com https://jermolene.com > On 5 Dec 2019, at 15:14, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki > wrote: > > > Wow. That is useful. How did I miss that? I think it's just that my > expectations were so low ... > > Maybe this should be pinned at the top ;-) > >> On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 7:11:44 AM UTC-8, PMario wrote: >> On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 3:45:56 PM UTC+1, Mark S. wrote: >> >>> In an ideal world, everyone could pin their own favorite thread, and it >>> would be pinned ONLY in their own feed. >> >> That's what "stars" are for. You can star stuff per thread or per reply. I >> use this mechanism since my first post to this group. >> >> On the left sidebar in the web-ui there is a "Starred" button, which only >> shows my starred threads. >> >> The "Filter" dropdown provides a filter that let's me search "posts I >> started" and "posts I did reply to". >> >> That's absolutely useful. >> >> have fun! >> mario > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TiddlyWiki" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/d1c416e1-03d2-498d-b502-786e5ac313fb%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/91C2DE2C-6B23-4F28-B307-2C4C5CAD67A3%40gmail.com.
[tw5] Re: Pin Unpin Posts
Wow. That *is* useful. How did I miss that? I think it's just that my expectations were so low ... Maybe this should be pinned at the top ;-) On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 7:11:44 AM UTC-8, PMario wrote: > > On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 3:45:56 PM UTC+1, Mark S. wrote: > > >> In an ideal world, everyone could pin their own favorite thread, and it >> would be pinned ONLY in their own feed. >> > > That's what "stars" are for. You can star stuff per thread or per reply. I > use this mechanism since my first post to this group. > > On the left sidebar in the web-ui there is a "Starred" button, which only > shows my starred threads. > > The "Filter" dropdown provides a filter that let's me search "posts I > started" and "posts I did reply to". > > That's absolutely useful. > > have fun! > mario > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/d1c416e1-03d2-498d-b502-786e5ac313fb%40googlegroups.com.
[tw5] Re: Pin Unpin Posts
On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 3:45:56 PM UTC+1, Mark S. wrote: > In an ideal world, everyone could pin their own favorite thread, and it > would be pinned ONLY in their own feed. > That's what "stars" are for. You can star stuff per thread or per reply. I use this mechanism since my first post to this group. On the left sidebar in the web-ui there is a "Starred" button, which only shows my starred threads. The "Filter" dropdown provides a filter that let's me search "posts I started" and "posts I did reply to". That's absolutely useful. have fun! mario -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/311b4acd-fe91-4eb7-84d6-ef3e7b3d53bf%40googlegroups.com.
[tw5] Re: Pin Unpin Posts
Re-edited my post. Noticing that another fault with GG is that it doesn't provide a strike-out option. On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 7:06:22 AM UTC-8, David Gifford wrote: > > Apart from his comment about a supposed ego war, I agree with Mark that > the forum would be better off with no pinned items. IMHO, pinned items > should only be important announcements by Jeremy Ruston about TiddlyWiki > itself. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/790ee498-3840-41b7-9553-10f987185d97%40googlegroups.com.
[tw5] Re: Pin Unpin Posts
Apart from his comment about a supposed ego war, I agree with Mark that the forum would be better off with no pinned items. IMHO, pinned items should only be important announcements by Jeremy Ruston about TiddlyWiki itself. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/ebaf4ba3-f4fa-4894-a87a-dc5378ebeb96%40googlegroups.com.
[tw5] Re: Pin Unpin Posts
You unpinned things? Eight hours ago 4 items were pinned. Now, 3 are. It seems you are swimming against the stream ;-) I think we were better off when things couldn't be pinned by members. Now there seems to be an ego war for what goes at the top. Pretty soon we'll have an entire page of pinned threads. The pinning doesn't fix the thing that is wrong with GG, i.e., how to find important topics. In an ideal world, everyone could pin their own favorite thread, and it would be pinned ONLY in their own feed. On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 2:14:37 AM UTC-8, Eric Shulman wrote: > > > On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 12:39:03 AM UTC-8, Mohammad wrote: >> >> While that is true to keep important thread pinned and NOT ordinary >> questions, but please let >> people decide on this! >> > > Everyone likes to think that their posts are really important and not just > "ordinary questions", and some people seem to pin their posts just to shine > more attention on their favorite topics. However, consider this: if a > thread is of sufficient general interest to the wider group audience, it > will get new posts on a frequent basis, which will automatically keep it > near the top of the message list without any need for it to be pinned. > > I have been an administrator of this group for nearly 15 years, and have > used my judgement to keep the forum healthy without overly interfering with > the activity that occurs naturally. Pinning a thread used to be an > admin-only ability that was used very rarely, and only for extremely > important announcements. Even then, with few exceptions the pins were > removed after a short while (at most a week or two), so that the natural > time-ordered sequence of posts would prevail. > > -e > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/1140fa51-6c40-4cbb-ac67-79812721f1f9%40googlegroups.com.
[tw5] Re: Pin Unpin Posts
Thank you for explanation! --Mohammad On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 1:44:37 PM UTC+3:30, Eric Shulman wrote: > > > On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 12:39:03 AM UTC-8, Mohammad wrote: >> >> While that is true to keep important thread pinned and NOT ordinary >> questions, but please let >> people decide on this! >> > > Everyone likes to think that their posts are really important and not just > "ordinary questions", and some people seem to pin their posts just to shine > more attention on their favorite topics. However, consider this: if a > thread is of sufficient general interest to the wider group audience, it > will get new posts on a frequent basis, which will automatically keep it > near the top of the message list without any need for it to be pinned. > > I have been an administrator of this group for nearly 15 years, and have > used my judgement to keep the forum healthy without overly interfering with > the activity that occurs naturally. Pinning a thread used to be an > admin-only ability that was used very rarely, and only for extremely > important announcements. Even then, with few exceptions the pins were > removed after a short while (at most a week or two), so that the natural > time-ordered sequence of posts would prevail. > > -e > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/ab29c24d-c73e-4652-b5ea-dcda09496375%40googlegroups.com.
[tw5] Re: Pin Unpin Posts
On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 12:39:03 AM UTC-8, Mohammad wrote: > > While that is true to keep important thread pinned and NOT ordinary > questions, but please let > people decide on this! > Everyone likes to think that their posts are really important and not just "ordinary questions", and some people seem to pin their posts just to shine more attention on their favorite topics. However, consider this: if a thread is of sufficient general interest to the wider group audience, it will get new posts on a frequent basis, which will automatically keep it near the top of the message list without any need for it to be pinned. I have been an administrator of this group for nearly 15 years, and have used my judgement to keep the forum healthy without overly interfering with the activity that occurs naturally. Pinning a thread used to be an admin-only ability that was used very rarely, and only for extremely important announcements. Even then, with few exceptions the pins were removed after a short while (at most a week or two), so that the natural time-ordered sequence of posts would prevail. -e -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/a8c1aaf3-0851-48c6-b50b-802e62144176%40googlegroups.com.
