[tw5] Re: Update Codemirror

[TonyM]

Mario

Thanks I am glad your are on the case.

Codemirror really is a good addition to tiddlywiki. Line numbers tabs and other 
features help me every day.

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] Re: Update Codemirror

[PMario]

On Friday, March 13, 2020 at 12:55:23 PM UTC+1, TonyM wrote:
>
> I see the gap in my argument yet I recall installing everything and 
> getting this message until I disabled the two html components.


Hi Tony, .. I could replicate the problem. A "normal" user would need to 
install 1 by 1, which can be frustrating. ... But that's the only way atm. 

I'll create a proposal at github to split CodeMirror into its own library 
plugins/codemirror5. There is a CMnext on the way which will be 
codemirror6. So it is part of the core, but not part of the 
plugins/tiddlywiki path. 

This should also help us, to keep the plugins UI simple. TWprerelease is a 
mess, if you want to install CM modules. I'm sure 99% of the users won't 
find the modules. And if the find them, they will do it wrong. 
 
I know TW and CM and I did have problems resolving the dependencies with 
the modified UI for the prerelease.

-mario

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[tw5] Re: Update Codemirror

[TonyM]

Mario

I see the gap in my argument yet I recall installing everything and getting 
this message until I disabled the two html components.

I am not in a position to replicate now.

Tony

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[tw5] Re: Update Codemirror

[PMario]

On Wednesday, March 11, 2020 at 11:53:45 PM UTC+1, TonyM wrote:
...

>
>- Install ONLY CodeMirror Mode: Embedded-HTML Highlighting
>- Save and Reload
>
> Internal JavaScript Error
> Well, this is embarrassing. It is recommended that you restart TiddlyWiki 
> by refreshing your browser
> Error executing boot module 
> $:/plugins/tiddlywiki/codemirror/mode/htmlembedded/htmlembedded.js: "Cannot 
> find module named '../htmlmixed/htmlmixed' required by module 
> '$:/plugins/tiddlywiki/codemirror/mode/htmlembedded/htmlembedded.js', 
> resolved to $:/plugins/tiddlywiki/codemirror/mode/htmlmixed/htmlmixed"
>

Did you read the error message. It says "Cannot find module htmlmixed" ... 
So it obviously needs the mixed module ... You need to install it. 

TW plugin system, *doesn't* contain a dependency resolution system atm

htmlmixed also needs xml, javascript and css ... If you install all of 
them, you are good to go. 

-mario

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[tw5] Re: Update Codemirror

[TonyM]

Mario,

Here is how to reproduce this;


   - Download empty from Tiddlywiki.com
   - Ctrl Panel Plugins, Get more plugins
   - Install all codemirror plugins EXCEPT the Following

CodeMirror Mode: Embedded-HTML Highlighting
$:/plugins/tiddlywiki/codemirror-mode-htmlembedded


CodeMirror Mode: HTML Highlighting
$:/plugins/tiddlywiki/codemirror-mode-htmlmixed


   - Save and reload and use codemirror in edit text, all OK
   - Ctrl Panel Plugins, Get more plugins
   - Install ONLY CodeMirror Mode: Embedded-HTML Highlighting
   - Save and Reload

Internal JavaScript Error
Well, this is embarrassing. It is recommended that you restart TiddlyWiki 
by refreshing your browser
Error executing boot module 
$:/plugins/tiddlywiki/codemirror/mode/htmlembedded/htmlembedded.js: "Cannot 
find module named '../htmlmixed/htmlmixed' required by module 
'$:/plugins/tiddlywiki/codemirror/mode/htmlembedded/htmlembedded.js', 
resolved to $:/plugins/tiddlywiki/codemirror/mode/htmlmixed/htmlmixed"

This now continues to occur on reload. The Red message is not wholly 
visible and no scroll is available, and disappears on "new tiddler."

[image: 2020-03-12_9-51-12.jpg]

Regards
Tony

On Tuesday, March 10, 2020 at 6:06:55 PM UTC+11, PMario wrote:
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 10, 2020 at 5:54:56 AM UTC+1, TonyM wrote:
>  
>
>> If I include the codemirror plugins relating to HTML I get a Red 
>> Javascript error.
>>
>
> hi,
> Can you be more precise, so we can fix the problem. An attachment here 
> will be ok.
> -m
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Update Codemirror

[George Rutter]

Wow, didn't realize "bluespire" was visible anywhere. That's a super old
pseudonym for me.

Do I want the latest and greatest? Yes.

Tangent: I have always loved the *idea* of TW from Classic to TW5. In fact,
I have tons of work documentation on a TWC that was heavily customized.
Back then I had one of the WYSIWYG editors working. I understand the need
to update the internal mechanisms, and I love the changes, but it's never
really been the same for me. I have always wanted TW to be able to replace
all my note-taking, but I've always felt it's only half-there in any
use-case. If all these external systems were basically just plug-n-play,
then I could hack it up myself, but I don't have the time to re-port every
integration I want. I would use CodeMirror as my main editor and tweak
away, if I knew I was still getting updates to the editor itself, and could
use all of its plugins. That's enough of a tangent. Sorry for venting.

On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 2:07 AM PMario  wrote:

>
>
> On Tuesday, March 10, 2020 at 5:54:56 AM UTC+1, TonyM wrote:
>
>
>> If I include the codemirror plugins relating to HTML I get a Red
>> Javascript error.
>>
>
> hi,
> Can you be more precise, so we can fix the problem. An attachment here
> will be ok.
> -m
>
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[tw5] Re: Update Codemirror

[PMario]

On Tuesday, March 10, 2020 at 5:54:56 AM UTC+1, TonyM wrote:
 

> If I include the codemirror plugins relating to HTML I get a Red 
> Javascript error.
>

hi,
Can you be more precise, so we can fix the problem. An attachment here will 
be ok.
-m

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[tw5] Re: Update Codemirror

[Mohammad]

bluespire,
 I think BTC (Simon) is the plugin container. I will ask in GitHuB to have 
a look!

--Mohammad

On Monday, March 9, 2020 at 6:32:13 PM UTC+3:30, bluespire wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> Maybe I missed the documentation on how to update Codemirror for 
> Tiddlywiki. The one in the official repo looks pretty out of date, but also 
> looks like some decent work went into porting it. What's the easiest way to 
> update it?
>
> -George
>

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[tw5] Re: Update Codemirror

[TonyM]

An observation

If I include the codemirror plugins relating to HTML I get a Red Javascript 
error.

This needs to be considered if upgrading, but codemirror is superior to the 
default editor.

Regards
Tony

On Tuesday, March 10, 2020 at 6:58:48 AM UTC+11, PMario wrote:
>
> Hi George, 
>
> On Monday, March 9, 2020 at 4:02:13 PM UTC+1, bluespire wrote:
> ...
>
>> Maybe I missed the documentation on how to update Codemirror for 
>> Tiddlywiki.
>>
>
> It has to be done by one of the plugin maintainers. Most of the time the 
> cm-libraries that are part of the files directory, have to be updated _AND_ 
> tested. Codemirror is "ultra modular". So each functionality is separated 
> into 1 js module. Most of the time such a module is only 1 part of a new 
> function. eg: autocomplete.
>
> In TW codemirror.js is the main plugin, that you always have to use. It 
> basically contains the main library and a minimal set of CM addOns that are 
> needed. 
>
> eg: codemirror-autocomplete contains several other cm-modules like: 
> anyword-hint.js, css-hint.js, html-hint.js  and so on. PLUS CSS and 
> some configuration, that is needed within TW.
>
> codemirror-closebrackets contains closebrackets.js and matchbrackets.js 
> ... + config. 
>
> As you can see, there is quite some manual work needed, to create a new 
> version for TW. Since the maintainer has to test every feature separately 
> and in combination with other tw-cm-plugins installed. 
>
> Especially the configurations have to be right, to create a plug-and-play 
> experience for newbie users. 
>  
>
>> The one in the official repo looks pretty out of date, but also looks 
>> like some decent work went into porting it. What's the easiest way to 
>> update it?
>>
>
> You are right. There has been much energy put into the system, to make it 
> easy to use. Especially the "autoconfig" feature needed much attention. 
> ...  TW 5.1.21 uses codemirror elements based on cm V5.37.0 
>
> I did have a look at the github release history. ... Most of the fixes 
> between 5.52.0 which is the latest version and the version we use is mode 
> updates (most of them not part of the TW distro atm.) and some edge case 
> fixes. 
>
> *So is there major function, that you miss in the current TW version, 
> which makes it impossible for you to use it. *
>
> Or is it just the need to "have to use the latest and greatest" ...
>
> have fun!
> mario
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Update Codemirror

[PMario]

Hi George, 

On Monday, March 9, 2020 at 4:02:13 PM UTC+1, bluespire wrote:
...

> Maybe I missed the documentation on how to update Codemirror for 
> Tiddlywiki.
>

It has to be done by one of the plugin maintainers. Most of the time the 
cm-libraries that are part of the files directory, have to be updated _AND_ 
tested. Codemirror is "ultra modular". So each functionality is separated 
into 1 js module. Most of the time such a module is only 1 part of a new 
function. eg: autocomplete.

In TW codemirror.js is the main plugin, that you always have to use. It 
basically contains the main library and a minimal set of CM addOns that are 
needed. 

eg: codemirror-autocomplete contains several other cm-modules like: 
anyword-hint.js, css-hint.js, html-hint.js  and so on. PLUS CSS and 
some configuration, that is needed within TW.

codemirror-closebrackets contains closebrackets.js and matchbrackets.js ... 
+ config. 

As you can see, there is quite some manual work needed, to create a new 
version for TW. Since the maintainer has to test every feature separately 
and in combination with other tw-cm-plugins installed. 

Especially the configurations have to be right, to create a plug-and-play 
experience for newbie users. 
 

> The one in the official repo looks pretty out of date, but also looks like 
> some decent work went into porting it. What's the easiest way to update it?
>

You are right. There has been much energy put into the system, to make it 
easy to use. Especially the "autoconfig" feature needed much attention. 
...  TW 5.1.21 uses codemirror elements based on cm V5.37.0 

I did have a look at the github release history. ... Most of the fixes 
between 5.52.0 which is the latest version and the version we use is mode 
updates (most of them not part of the TW distro atm.) and some edge case 
fixes. 

*So is there major function, that you miss in the current TW version, which 
makes it impossible for you to use it. *

Or is it just the need to "have to use the latest and greatest" ...

have fun!
mario

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