Re: [tw5] Re: Whitespace theme and Stroll incompatibility? (JD)

[Stephen Wilson]

:D Excellent!
Your just too productive JD.
I'll check out mono too :)

Cheers

Ste

On Thursday, 20 August 2020 at 14:55:42 UTC+1 JD wrote:

> Oh, my bad, I went on about Mono theme when we've been discussing 
> Whitespace. Whitespace isn't styling anything on mobile, so maybe you can 
> try http://j.d.simplemobile.tiddlyspot.com/ with it? 
>
> On Thu, Aug 20, 2020, 19:49 Stephen Wilson,  wrote:
>
>> [image: 
>> screenshot-stephenteacher.tiddlyspot.com-2020.08.20-12_40_28.png]This 
>> is what I get on mobile with no top menu bar plugin. (should be  screenshot 
>> there).  The arrow just pulls up the sidebar as per regular TiddlyWiki and 
>> the column button still appears in tiddlers (using the stories plugin) but 
>> the general behaviour is true even with stories disabled.
>>
>> On Wednesday, 19 August 2020 at 01:49:45 UTC+1 JD wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Ste! Thanks for helping me keep this theme up to date! 
>>>
>>> Mono styles the topbar for narrow screens, which means, on its own it 
>>> doesn't need a separate mobile plugin. 
>>>
>>> However, if you'd like to use the core Menubar plugin, or any other 
>>> topbar plugin, I can update Mono so that its topbar both in narrow and wide 
>>> screens can be offset (to accomodate the extra space needed by the 
>>> additional topbar) up to the distance of user's choice. 
>>>
>>> Do you think that can be a good compromise? My main desire for my themes 
>>> is for them to be very accomodating to other plugins as well! 
>>>
>>> -jd
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 18, 2020, 20:22 Ste,  wrote:
>>>
 So perhaps a better question would be...which of your mobile themes/ 
 topbars plays best with this theme (I'm sure I tried it on mobile with the 
 topbar plugin disabled and there wasn't anything, but that could be user 
 error...)

 On Tuesday, 18 August 2020 at 12:48:25 UTC+1 Ste wrote:

> Hi JD,
> Not stroll this time but the menu bar plugin.
> The menubar plugin covers over the hamburger.
> I'm not wedded to that plugin, but do like a topbar of some 
> description for mobile layout.  (I have used a few of your awesome themes 
> for this before) :)
>
> Liking the 
>
> On Saturday, 15 August 2020 at 10:27:42 UTC+1 JD wrote:
>
>> Hi Birthe, thanks for the info! I'll have to check those out too! 
>>
>> Schedule has gotten crazy so I'll post again when the fix is 
>> available! Thanks again
>>
>> -jd
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, August 15, 2020 at 2:12:13 AM UTC+9, Birthe C wrote:
>>>
>>> JD,
>>>
>>> I am running white theme and stories plugin + your compatibility 
>>> stylesheet. It works well for me. BUT I imported the stories plugin at 
>>> the 
>>> same time you published your compatibility stylesheet. A couple of days 
>>> later there was an update of the stories plugin. To be able to set the 
>>> width of the stories.
>>> I did not update to that for my use.
>>>
>>> I do use that updated stories plugin with mono theme though and that 
>>> works well.
>>>
>>> After the update of the stories plugin, also 2 viewtemplates from 
>>> Dave is necessary or the tiddlercontrols will hop and dance.
>>>
>>>
>>> Birthe
>>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Whitespace theme and Stroll incompatibility? (JD)

[E Browns]

Oh, my bad, I went on about Mono theme when we've been discussing
Whitespace. Whitespace isn't styling anything on mobile, so maybe you can
try http://j.d.simplemobile.tiddlyspot.com/ with it?

On Thu, Aug 20, 2020, 19:49 Stephen Wilson, 
wrote:

> [image: screenshot-stephenteacher.tiddlyspot.com-2020.08.20-12_40_28.png]This
> is what I get on mobile with no top menu bar plugin. (should be  screenshot
> there).  The arrow just pulls up the sidebar as per regular TiddlyWiki and
> the column button still appears in tiddlers (using the stories plugin) but
> the general behaviour is true even with stories disabled.
>
> On Wednesday, 19 August 2020 at 01:49:45 UTC+1 JD wrote:
>
>> Hi Ste! Thanks for helping me keep this theme up to date!
>>
>> Mono styles the topbar for narrow screens, which means, on its own it
>> doesn't need a separate mobile plugin.
>>
>> However, if you'd like to use the core Menubar plugin, or any other
>> topbar plugin, I can update Mono so that its topbar both in narrow and wide
>> screens can be offset (to accomodate the extra space needed by the
>> additional topbar) up to the distance of user's choice.
>>
>> Do you think that can be a good compromise? My main desire for my themes
>> is for them to be very accomodating to other plugins as well!
>>
>> -jd
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 18, 2020, 20:22 Ste,  wrote:
>>
>>> So perhaps a better question would be...which of your mobile themes/
>>> topbars plays best with this theme (I'm sure I tried it on mobile with the
>>> topbar plugin disabled and there wasn't anything, but that could be user
>>> error...)
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, 18 August 2020 at 12:48:25 UTC+1 Ste wrote:
>>>
 Hi JD,
 Not stroll this time but the menu bar plugin.
 The menubar plugin covers over the hamburger.
 I'm not wedded to that plugin, but do like a topbar of some description
 for mobile layout.  (I have used a few of your awesome themes for this
 before) :)

 Liking the

 On Saturday, 15 August 2020 at 10:27:42 UTC+1 JD wrote:

> Hi Birthe, thanks for the info! I'll have to check those out too!
>
> Schedule has gotten crazy so I'll post again when the fix is
> available! Thanks again
>
> -jd
>
>
> On Saturday, August 15, 2020 at 2:12:13 AM UTC+9, Birthe C wrote:
>>
>> JD,
>>
>> I am running white theme and stories plugin + your compatibility
>> stylesheet. It works well for me. BUT I imported the stories plugin at 
>> the
>> same time you published your compatibility stylesheet. A couple of days
>> later there was an update of the stories plugin. To be able to set the
>> width of the stories.
>> I did not update to that for my use.
>>
>> I do use that updated stories plugin with mono theme though and that
>> works well.
>>
>> After the update of the stories plugin, also 2 viewtemplates from
>> Dave is necessary or the tiddlercontrols will hop and dance.
>>
>>
>> Birthe
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Whitespace theme and Stroll incompatibility? (JD)

[Birthe C]

Ste,

I am using whitespace theme and stories plugin. Using whitespace theme you 
have the option to have sidebar at the left or at the right. I have sidebar 
on the left. I do not have a mobile but on a small screen I get the page 
controls in the bottom - but the sidebar arrow does not work, that is true.

Have you tried using the mono theme, I think you might find it a better 
fit. I am using it with stroll.

Birthe

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Re: [tw5] Re: Whitespace theme and Stroll incompatibility? (JD)

[Stephen Wilson]

[image: screenshot-stephenteacher.tiddlyspot.com-2020.08.20-12_40_28.png]This 
is what I get on mobile with no top menu bar plugin. (should be  screenshot 
there).  The arrow just pulls up the sidebar as per regular TiddlyWiki and 
the column button still appears in tiddlers (using the stories plugin) but 
the general behaviour is true even with stories disabled.

On Wednesday, 19 August 2020 at 01:49:45 UTC+1 JD wrote:

> Hi Ste! Thanks for helping me keep this theme up to date! 
>
> Mono styles the topbar for narrow screens, which means, on its own it 
> doesn't need a separate mobile plugin. 
>
> However, if you'd like to use the core Menubar plugin, or any other topbar 
> plugin, I can update Mono so that its topbar both in narrow and wide 
> screens can be offset (to accomodate the extra space needed by the 
> additional topbar) up to the distance of user's choice. 
>
> Do you think that can be a good compromise? My main desire for my themes 
> is for them to be very accomodating to other plugins as well! 
>
> -jd
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2020, 20:22 Ste,  wrote:
>
>> So perhaps a better question would be...which of your mobile themes/ 
>> topbars plays best with this theme (I'm sure I tried it on mobile with the 
>> topbar plugin disabled and there wasn't anything, but that could be user 
>> error...)
>>
>> On Tuesday, 18 August 2020 at 12:48:25 UTC+1 Ste wrote:
>>
>>> Hi JD,
>>> Not stroll this time but the menu bar plugin.
>>> The menubar plugin covers over the hamburger.
>>> I'm not wedded to that plugin, but do like a topbar of some description 
>>> for mobile layout.  (I have used a few of your awesome themes for this 
>>> before) :)
>>>
>>> Liking the 
>>>
>>> On Saturday, 15 August 2020 at 10:27:42 UTC+1 JD wrote:
>>>
 Hi Birthe, thanks for the info! I'll have to check those out too! 

 Schedule has gotten crazy so I'll post again when the fix is available! 
 Thanks again

 -jd


 On Saturday, August 15, 2020 at 2:12:13 AM UTC+9, Birthe C wrote:
>
> JD,
>
> I am running white theme and stories plugin + your compatibility 
> stylesheet. It works well for me. BUT I imported the stories plugin at 
> the 
> same time you published your compatibility stylesheet. A couple of days 
> later there was an update of the stories plugin. To be able to set the 
> width of the stories.
> I did not update to that for my use.
>
> I do use that updated stories plugin with mono theme though and that 
> works well.
>
> After the update of the stories plugin, also 2 viewtemplates from Dave 
> is necessary or the tiddlercontrols will hop and dance.
>
>
> Birthe
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Re: [tw5] Re: Whitespace theme and Stroll incompatibility? (JD)

[E Browns]

Hi Ste! Thanks for helping me keep this theme up to date!

Mono styles the topbar for narrow screens, which means, on its own it
doesn't need a separate mobile plugin.

However, if you'd like to use the core Menubar plugin, or any other topbar
plugin, I can update Mono so that its topbar both in narrow and wide
screens can be offset (to accomodate the extra space needed by the
additional topbar) up to the distance of user's choice.

Do you think that can be a good compromise? My main desire for my themes is
for them to be very accomodating to other plugins as well!

-jd


On Tue, Aug 18, 2020, 20:22 Ste,  wrote:

> So perhaps a better question would be...which of your mobile themes/
> topbars plays best with this theme (I'm sure I tried it on mobile with the
> topbar plugin disabled and there wasn't anything, but that could be user
> error...)
>
> On Tuesday, 18 August 2020 at 12:48:25 UTC+1 Ste wrote:
>
>> Hi JD,
>> Not stroll this time but the menu bar plugin.
>> The menubar plugin covers over the hamburger.
>> I'm not wedded to that plugin, but do like a topbar of some description
>> for mobile layout.  (I have used a few of your awesome themes for this
>> before) :)
>>
>> Liking the
>>
>> On Saturday, 15 August 2020 at 10:27:42 UTC+1 JD wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Birthe, thanks for the info! I'll have to check those out too!
>>>
>>> Schedule has gotten crazy so I'll post again when the fix is available!
>>> Thanks again
>>>
>>> -jd
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, August 15, 2020 at 2:12:13 AM UTC+9, Birthe C wrote:

 JD,

 I am running white theme and stories plugin + your compatibility
 stylesheet. It works well for me. BUT I imported the stories plugin at the
 same time you published your compatibility stylesheet. A couple of days
 later there was an update of the stories plugin. To be able to set the
 width of the stories.
 I did not update to that for my use.

 I do use that updated stories plugin with mono theme though and that
 works well.

 After the update of the stories plugin, also 2 viewtemplates from Dave
 is necessary or the tiddlercontrols will hop and dance.


 Birthe

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[tw5] Re: Whitespace theme and Stroll incompatibility? (JD)

[Ste]

So perhaps a better question would be...which of your mobile themes/ 
topbars plays best with this theme (I'm sure I tried it on mobile with the 
topbar plugin disabled and there wasn't anything, but that could be user 
error...)

On Tuesday, 18 August 2020 at 12:48:25 UTC+1 Ste wrote:

> Hi JD,
> Not stroll this time but the menu bar plugin.
> The menubar plugin covers over the hamburger.
> I'm not wedded to that plugin, but do like a topbar of some description 
> for mobile layout.  (I have used a few of your awesome themes for this 
> before) :)
>
> Liking the 
>
> On Saturday, 15 August 2020 at 10:27:42 UTC+1 JD wrote:
>
>> Hi Birthe, thanks for the info! I'll have to check those out too! 
>>
>> Schedule has gotten crazy so I'll post again when the fix is available! 
>> Thanks again
>>
>> -jd
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, August 15, 2020 at 2:12:13 AM UTC+9, Birthe C wrote:
>>>
>>> JD,
>>>
>>> I am running white theme and stories plugin + your compatibility 
>>> stylesheet. It works well for me. BUT I imported the stories plugin at the 
>>> same time you published your compatibility stylesheet. A couple of days 
>>> later there was an update of the stories plugin. To be able to set the 
>>> width of the stories.
>>> I did not update to that for my use.
>>>
>>> I do use that updated stories plugin with mono theme though and that 
>>> works well.
>>>
>>> After the update of the stories plugin, also 2 viewtemplates from Dave 
>>> is necessary or the tiddlercontrols will hop and dance.
>>>
>>>
>>> Birthe
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Whitespace theme and Stroll incompatibility? (JD)

[Ste]

Hi JD,
Not stroll this time but the menu bar plugin.
The menubar plugin covers over the hamburger.
I'm not wedded to that plugin, but do like a topbar of some description for 
mobile layout.  (I have used a few of your awesome themes for this before) 
:)

Liking the 

On Saturday, 15 August 2020 at 10:27:42 UTC+1 JD wrote:

> Hi Birthe, thanks for the info! I'll have to check those out too! 
>
> Schedule has gotten crazy so I'll post again when the fix is available! 
> Thanks again
>
> -jd
>
>
> On Saturday, August 15, 2020 at 2:12:13 AM UTC+9, Birthe C wrote:
>>
>> JD,
>>
>> I am running white theme and stories plugin + your compatibility 
>> stylesheet. It works well for me. BUT I imported the stories plugin at the 
>> same time you published your compatibility stylesheet. A couple of days 
>> later there was an update of the stories plugin. To be able to set the 
>> width of the stories.
>> I did not update to that for my use.
>>
>> I do use that updated stories plugin with mono theme though and that 
>> works well.
>>
>> After the update of the stories plugin, also 2 viewtemplates from Dave is 
>> necessary or the tiddlercontrols will hop and dance.
>>
>>
>> Birthe
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Whitespace theme and Stroll incompatibility? (JD)

[JD]

Hi Birthe, thanks for the info! I'll have to check those out too! 

Schedule has gotten crazy so I'll post again when the fix is available! 
Thanks again

-jd

On Saturday, August 15, 2020 at 2:12:13 AM UTC+9, Birthe C wrote:
>
> JD,
>
> I am running white theme and stories plugin + your compatibility 
> stylesheet. It works well for me. BUT I imported the stories plugin at the 
> same time you published your compatibility stylesheet. A couple of days 
> later there was an update of the stories plugin. To be able to set the 
> width of the stories.
> I did not update to that for my use.
>
> I do use that updated stories plugin with mono theme though and that works 
> well.
>
> After the update of the stories plugin, also 2 viewtemplates from Dave is 
> necessary or the tiddlercontrols will hop and dance.
>
>
> Birthe
>

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[tw5] Re: Whitespace theme and Stroll incompatibility? (JD)

[JD]

Aww thanks logan! I still want to update it because I think the Stories 
plugin is really cool! And I didn't realize there was an update after I 
released my compatibility stylesheet.

Anyway, work has crept into my leisure time, but I will update this thread 
once I've fixed the issue.


On Saturday, August 15, 2020 at 12:43:43 AM UTC+9, Logan C wrote:
>
>  It's *5.1.22. *I tried the compatibility tiddler with just the stories 
> plugin, and it actually seems to work when the sidebar is collapsed. Now, 
> knowing this, the problem is not actually that big of a deal... so if you 
> want to fix it, great! If not, not a problem at all. I'm busy right now but 
> later today I will check out the compatibility between *all* the stroll 
> plugins, your theme, and the compatibility tiddler now knowing it works 
> with a collapsed sidebar. Thanks for all that you do.
>
> On Friday, August 14, 2020 at 7:07:09 AM UTC-4 JD wrote:
>
>> Aww shucks let me look into it.
>>
>> To investigate, can you provide the version of TW you are using, browser, 
>> and plugins? 
>>
>> Thanks for the like!
>>
>> (Upon initial investigation it looks like it has something to do with the 
>> group of plugins included in Stroll. The compatibility tiddler I initially 
>> provided was for the *Stories *plugin only. I'll do my best to 
>> accommodate the others!)
>>
>> -jd
>>
>> side note: Might take a while
>>
>>
>> On Friday, August 14, 2020 at 1:44:26 PM UTC+9, Sam wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi guys (and JD, if you're out there),
>>>
>>> I want to use the Whitespace theme 
>>>  with Stroll 
>>> . There is a stylesheet 
>>> 
>>>  JD 
>>> has created so that they are both compatible. After multiple tries 
>>> (downloading the stylesheet, theme and plugin in different orders) the my 
>>> wiki is still not formatted correctly (see below). I love both stroll and 
>>> the theme, and it would be great if I could get this sorted out. 
>>> Thanks![image: 
>>> Screen Shot 2020-08-14 at 12.37.44 AM.png]
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Whitespace theme and Stroll incompatibility? (JD)

[Birthe C]

JD,

I am running white theme and stories plugin + your compatibility 
stylesheet. It works well for me. BUT I imported the stories plugin at the 
same time you published your compatibility stylesheet. A couple of days 
later there was an update of the stories plugin. To be able to set the 
width of the stories.
I did not update to that for my use.

I do use that updated stories plugin with mono theme though and that works 
well.

After the update of the stories plugin, also 2 viewtemplates from Dave is 
necessary or the tiddlercontrols will hop and dance.


Birthe

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[tw5] Re: Whitespace theme and Stroll incompatibility? (JD)

[Logan C]

 It's *5.1.22. *I tried the compatibility tiddler with just the stories 
plugin, and it actually seems to work when the sidebar is collapsed. Now, 
knowing this, the problem is not actually that big of a deal... so if you 
want to fix it, great! If not, not a problem at all. I'm busy right now but 
later today I will check out the compatibility between *all* the stroll 
plugins, your theme, and the compatibility tiddler now knowing it works 
with a collapsed sidebar. Thanks for all that you do.

On Friday, August 14, 2020 at 7:07:09 AM UTC-4 JD wrote:

> Aww shucks let me look into it.
>
> To investigate, can you provide the version of TW you are using, browser, 
> and plugins? 
>
> Thanks for the like!
>
> (Upon initial investigation it looks like it has something to do with the 
> group of plugins included in Stroll. The compatibility tiddler I initially 
> provided was for the *Stories *plugin only. I'll do my best to 
> accommodate the others!)
>
> -jd
>
> side note: Might take a while
>
>
> On Friday, August 14, 2020 at 1:44:26 PM UTC+9, Sam wrote:
>>
>> Hi guys (and JD, if you're out there),
>>
>> I want to use the Whitespace theme  
>> with 
>> Stroll . There is a stylesheet 
>> 
>>  JD 
>> has created so that they are both compatible. After multiple tries 
>> (downloading the stylesheet, theme and plugin in different orders) the my 
>> wiki is still not formatted correctly (see below). I love both stroll and 
>> the theme, and it would be great if I could get this sorted out. 
>> Thanks![image: 
>> Screen Shot 2020-08-14 at 12.37.44 AM.png]
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Whitespace theme and Stroll incompatibility? (JD)

[JD]

Aww shucks let me look into it.

To investigate, can you provide the version of TW you are using, browser, 
and plugins? 

Thanks for the like!

(Upon initial investigation it looks like it has something to do with the 
group of plugins included in Stroll. The compatibility tiddler I initially 
provided was for the *Stories *plugin only. I'll do my best to accommodate 
the others!)

-jd

side note: Might take a while


On Friday, August 14, 2020 at 1:44:26 PM UTC+9, Sam wrote:
>
> Hi guys (and JD, if you're out there),
>
> I want to use the Whitespace theme  
> with 
> Stroll . There is a stylesheet 
> 
>  JD 
> has created so that they are both compatible. After multiple tries 
> (downloading the stylesheet, theme and plugin in different orders) the my 
> wiki is still not formatted correctly (see below). I love both stroll and 
> the theme, and it would be great if I could get this sorted out. 
> Thanks![image: 
> Screen Shot 2020-08-14 at 12.37.44 AM.png]
>

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