[twdev] Re: [TW5/TWC] Announcing prerelease of TiddlyFox 2.0.0

2017-02-07 Thread Yakov
Hi guys,

very nice to hear about this update!

Unfortunately, I'm here to ask an unpleasant question: have you heard of 
this announcement [1]? In short: Addons will be substituted with 
WebExtensions and in FF 57 (shceduled for November 2017) Addons will be no 
longer supported (I've found out this because of this announcement [2] of 
the Tab Groups developer). Some more constructive info may be found at [3], 
including porting tips and call for API extension requests (if needed).

Best regards,
Yakov.

[1] https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2016/11/23/add-ons-in-2017/ 
[2] http://fasezero.com/lastnotice.html
[3] https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Add-ons/WebExtensions

вторник, 3 января 2017 г., 19:41:20 UTC+3 пользователь Jeremy Ruston 
написал:
>
> I’m happy to announce a new version 2.0.0 of TiddlyFox for desktops, with 
> overhauled internals and a new user interface. It works with the latest 
> versions of desktop Firefox, and supports both TiddlyWiki Classic and 
> TiddlyWiki 5.
>
> (Users of TiddlyFox on Firefox for Android will not be able to use the new 
> version, but the old version will continue to work for them).
>
> The new version includes a toolbar button. For ordinary websites it looks 
> like this:
>
>
> If you navigate to a TiddlyWiki on a file: uri then the icon turns blue:
>
>
> Clicking the icon shows a popup with options to enable saving for the 
> TiddlyWiki file:
>
>
> If saving is enabled, the icon turns green:
>
>
> Clicking the button and unchecking “Always enable saving for this file” 
> will disable saving once the wiki has been refreshed.
>
> I’ve submitted the prerelease for review by Mozilla which can take some 
> time. Unfortunately, Mozilla’s recent requirement that all add-ons be 
> cryptographically signed by them makes it harder than usual to try out the 
> prerelease in the meantime.
>
> The easiest way to use an unsigned XPI is to use the Developer edition of 
> Firefox, which will accept unsigned extensions:
>
> https://www.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/developer/
>
> The XPI is available here:
>
> https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/TiddlyFox/raw/master/tiddlywiki.xpi
>
> As usual, questions and feedback are welcome,
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
>

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[twdev] Re: [TW5/TWC] Announcing prerelease of TiddlyFox 2.0.0

2017-02-01 Thread progetti
Ciao Jeremy

A Tiddly reply.

It works fine.

The icon itself may be a bit SMALL for some viewing situations. The 
relative size of the GLOBE to the overall size can make it hard to register 
the colour when its smaller.

Best wishes
Josiah

On Tuesday, 3 January 2017 17:41:20 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> I’m happy to announce a new version 2.0.0 of TiddlyFox for desktops, with 
> overhauled internals and a new user interface. It works with the latest 
> versions of desktop Firefox, and supports both TiddlyWiki Classic and 
> TiddlyWiki 5.
>
> (Users of TiddlyFox on Firefox for Android will not be able to use the new 
> version, but the old version will continue to work for them).
>
> The new version includes a toolbar button. For ordinary websites it looks 
> like this:
>
>
> If you navigate to a TiddlyWiki on a file: uri then the icon turns blue:
>
>
> Clicking the icon shows a popup with options to enable saving for the 
> TiddlyWiki file:
>
>
> If saving is enabled, the icon turns green:
>
>
> Clicking the button and unchecking “Always enable saving for this file” 
> will disable saving once the wiki has been refreshed.
>
> I’ve submitted the prerelease for review by Mozilla which can take some 
> time. Unfortunately, Mozilla’s recent requirement that all add-ons be 
> cryptographically signed by them makes it harder than usual to try out the 
> prerelease in the meantime.
>
> The easiest way to use an unsigned XPI is to use the Developer edition of 
> Firefox, which will accept unsigned extensions:
>
> https://www.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/developer/
>
> The XPI is available here:
>
> https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/TiddlyFox/raw/master/tiddlywiki.xpi
>
> As usual, questions and feedback are welcome,
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
>

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Re: [twdev] Re: [TW5/TWC] Announcing prerelease of TiddlyFox 2.0.0

2017-01-31 Thread Thomas Elmiger


Here’s a new version of sleepy Jack. Colors can be added anytime …



It seems for the second one, the tail is too long and a bit too thick. 
>>
>> -m
>>
>> Full ack!
> -t 
>


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Re: [twdev] Re: [TW5/TWC] Announcing prerelease of TiddlyFox 2.0.0

2017-01-18 Thread PMario
On Tuesday, January 17, 2017 at 9:31:08 PM UTC+1, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
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Wow! ... I love them. all of them :) 
-m 

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Re: [twdev] Re: [TW5/TWC] Announcing prerelease of TiddlyFox 2.0.0

2017-01-17 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Thomas,

I think with some coloring they work just great. Lot's of Jack, but... why 
not. ;-)




 

 

 


Best wishes,

Tobias. 

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Re: [twdev] Re: [TW5/TWC] Announcing prerelease of TiddlyFox 2.0.0

2017-01-17 Thread Thomas Elmiger
Hi Jeremy, Mario and Tobias

I stole some time, so here is a first draft. I was inspired by Tobias’ 
suggestion and made just cats. As I don’t know how to deal with inverted 
themes and to keep things simple I did not use color. Let’s see if the 
icons speak for themselfs.





I have to admit that I was not able to activate the disabled-state in my 
tiddlyfox – do we really need this one? How could I see it. 


All the best,
Thomas





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Re: [twdev] Re: [TW5/TWC] Announcing prerelease of TiddlyFox 2.0.0

2017-01-13 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Thomas

> In case I would find some time (which will not be the case during the next 
> few days, maybe weeks), could you point me to an icon guideline for FF 
> extensions?

I haven’t come across any formal guidelines.

> The other problem I had: While overlooked and thus not activated, the yellow 
> confirmation popped up (false positive) when saving a tiddler while the dirty 
> indicator stayed dirty on the save-button. I found this irritating. Would it 
> be possible to display a hint instead? ("Activate auto-save by clicking the 
> cat icon in the toolbar" or something similar.)

Interesting. Before activating saving for a wiki, from the perspective of the 
wiki, it’s exactly as if it is running in an ordinary instance of Firefox. So I 
think we’d need to introduce a way for TiddlyFox to signal to the loaded wiki 
that TiddlyFox is installed but not enabled. That’ll take some reorganisation 
of the way things work at the moment.

Best wishes

Jeremy.


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> Thomas
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Re: [twdev] Re: [TW5/TWC] Announcing prerelease of TiddlyFox 2.0.0

2017-01-12 Thread Thomas Elmiger


Hi Jeremy

In fact I did not notice the new icon between the other inverted ones: 


If anyone is interested in exploring alternatives (Thomas?), I’d welcome 
> any proposals:
>
> https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/TiddlyFox/tree/master/data/images
>

In case I would find some time (which will not be the case during the next 
few days, maybe weeks), could you point me to an icon guideline for FF 
extensions?

The other problem I had: While overlooked and thus not activated, the 
yellow confirmation popped up (false positive) when saving a tiddler while 
the dirty indicator stayed dirty on the save-button. I found this 
irritating. Would it be possible to display a hint instead? ("Activate 
auto-save by clicking the cat icon in the toolbar" or something similar.)

Thank you and all the best!
Thomas
 

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Re: [twdev] Re: [TW5/TWC] Announcing prerelease of TiddlyFox 2.0.0

2017-01-12 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Jeremy,
 

> we need a clear transition between different shapes, not just different 
> colours.
>

Perhaps. I would suggest we use *just Jack *and some colours and where it 
makes sense, some overlay or posture that indicates a status, e.g.

   - 
*plain *could just be Jack,
   in classic blue
   
   - 
*disabled *should possibly be a grey Jack,
   perhaps a lying cat, something lazy
   
   - 
*enabled *could be a green Jack,
   playing with a ball of fur
   
   - 
*alert *should be a red Jack,
   perhaps a falling cat, perhaps upside down 
   
Best wishes,

Tobias.

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Re: [twdev] Re: [TW5/TWC] Announcing prerelease of TiddlyFox 2.0.0

2017-01-12 Thread PMario
On Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 4:26:41 PM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
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>
> we need a clear transition between different shapes, not just different 
> colours.
>

That's right. Colour is not enough. 
-m 

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