Re: [Tigervnc-devel] Github migration?
On Tue, 3 Jun 2014 08:11:53 -0400, Brian Hinz wrote: On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 3:28 AM, Pierre Ossman wrote: On Mon, 02 Jun 2014 23:57:00 -0700, Alan Coopersmith wrote: https://github.com/MrMEEE/bumblebee-Old-and-abbandoned/commit/a047be85247755cdbe0acce6f1dafc8beb84f2ac (which as you can see ended up causing the author to abandon the repo to get away from the endless trolling). Uh, it's been years and people are still commenting. github honestly doesn't allow those forums to be locked down? I don't know if I can take that volume of email... How do they prevent spam from bastards like the I agree. Here's the link ... troll from coming through? FYI: https://github.com/blog/1847-locking-conversations -- Pierre Ossman Software Development Cendio AB http://cendio.com Teknikringen 8 http://twitter.com/ThinLinc 583 30 Linköpinghttp://facebook.com/ThinLinc Phone: +46-13-214600http://plus.google.com/+CendioThinLinc A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- Open source business process management suite built on Java and Eclipse Turn processes into business applications with Bonita BPM Community Edition Quickly connect people, data, and systems into organized workflows Winner of BOSSIE, CODIE, OW2 and Gartner awards http://p.sf.net/sfu/Bonitasoft___ Tigervnc-devel mailing list Tigervnc-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tigervnc-devel
Re: [Tigervnc-devel] Github migration?
On Mon, 30 Jun 2014 13:21:13 +0200, Pierre Ossman wrote: - Copy over at least the 1.3.1 release. Meh. We have such a silly amount of files that this became very messy. I just linked to the sourceforge page for now. Should probably look at dumping release binaries at the same place we decide to dump nightly builds. Rgds -- Pierre Ossman Software Development Cendio AB http://cendio.com Teknikringen 8 http://twitter.com/ThinLinc 583 30 Linköpinghttp://facebook.com/ThinLinc Phone: +46-13-214600http://plus.google.com/+CendioThinLinc A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- Open source business process management suite built on Java and Eclipse Turn processes into business applications with Bonita BPM Community Edition Quickly connect people, data, and systems into organized workflows Winner of BOSSIE, CODIE, OW2 and Gartner awards http://p.sf.net/sfu/Bonitasoft___ Tigervnc-devel mailing list Tigervnc-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tigervnc-devel
Re: [Tigervnc-devel] Github migration?
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 7:21 AM, Pierre Ossman wrote: I am more or less done with the migration, so it is time to consider a formal switch. What's left: - Moving over relevant bug entries - Copy over at least the 1.3.1 release. - Decide what to do about nightly builds The source for the builds has been coming from the github repo since last week. I suggest leaving them where they are for now, since the URL makes no reference to sourceforge. - Shut down the sourceforge page - Send out an annoucement Anyone got any experience of what's appropriate to with the old project page in a case like this? Putting some kind of notice and putting as much as possible in read-only state is the minimum effort I'd say. But should we do more? Actively break something to make sure people notice? Remove things? I'm certain that I've seen README's on SF download pages that redirect people to github, etc. I'll see if I can locate an example. -brian -- Open source business process management suite built on Java and Eclipse Turn processes into business applications with Bonita BPM Community Edition Quickly connect people, data, and systems into organized workflows Winner of BOSSIE, CODIE, OW2 and Gartner awards http://p.sf.net/sfu/Bonitasoft___ Tigervnc-devel mailing list Tigervnc-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tigervnc-devel
Re: [Tigervnc-devel] Github migration?
One little snag I just discovered. I can't find a suitable place to dump nightly builds on github. They do not have any dumb web server functionality. The closest thing is the Pages functionality. But that's still a git repo, and I don't think we want to keep filling that up with new builds. Brian, how are nightly builds handled? Is the build server a machine you host? Any ideas about alternative site for storing the result? Cendio can probably host it if there is nothing good publicly available. (I haven't checked out github's jenkins integration yet. It might have something that we can move to long term.) Rgds -- Pierre Ossman Software Development Cendio AB http://cendio.com Teknikringen 8 http://twitter.com/ThinLinc 583 30 Linköpinghttp://facebook.com/ThinLinc Phone: +46-13-214600http://plus.google.com/+CendioThinLinc A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- Open source business process management suite built on Java and Eclipse Turn processes into business applications with Bonita BPM Community Edition Quickly connect people, data, and systems into organized workflows Winner of BOSSIE, CODIE, OW2 and Gartner awards http://p.sf.net/sfu/Bonitasoft___ Tigervnc-devel mailing list Tigervnc-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tigervnc-devel
Re: [Tigervnc-devel] Github migration?
No objection here. On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 6:39 AM, Pierre Ossman oss...@cendio.se wrote: I'd like to keep the ball rolling here, so unless anyone objects I intend to start officially setting things up this week. Rgds -- Pierre Ossman Software Development Cendio AB http://cendio.com Teknikringen 8 http://twitter.com/ThinLinc 583 30 Linköpinghttp://facebook.com/ThinLinc Phone: +46-13-214600 http://plus.google.com/+CendioThinLinc A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems ___ Tigervnc-devel mailing list Tigervnc-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tigervnc-devel -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems___ Tigervnc-devel mailing list Tigervnc-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tigervnc-devel
Re: [Tigervnc-devel] Github migration?
On 6/23/14 5:39 AM, Pierre Ossman wrote: I'd like to keep the ball rolling here, so unless anyone objects I intend to start officially setting things up this week. One thing I wanted to ask-- you had mentioned that you were migrating only the recent commits. Why not migrate the whole SVN repository? I would think that this would be relatively straightforward. -- HPCC Systems Open Source Big Data Platform from LexisNexis Risk Solutions Find What Matters Most in Your Big Data with HPCC Systems Open Source. Fast. Scalable. Simple. Ideal for Dirty Data. Leverages Graph Analysis for Fast Processing Easy Data Exploration http://p.sf.net/sfu/hpccsystems ___ Tigervnc-devel mailing list Tigervnc-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tigervnc-devel
Re: [Tigervnc-devel] Github migration?
On Mon, 23 Jun 2014 10:37:53 -0500 DRC dcomman...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: On 6/23/14 5:39 AM, Pierre Ossman wrote: I'd like to keep the ball rolling here, so unless anyone objects I intend to start officially setting things up this week. One thing I wanted to ask-- you had mentioned that you were migrating only the recent commits. Why not migrate the whole SVN repository? I would think that this would be relatively straightforward. I'm migrating the history since all the way from the start. But there are a whole bunch of side branches in our svn repo that has nothing to do with our current code base. It's for other versions of TightVNC. Keeping those around is just needless noise. Rgds -- Pierre Ossman Software Development Cendio AB http://cendio.com Teknikringen 8 http://twitter.com/ThinLinc 583 30 Linköpinghttp://facebook.com/ThinLinc Phone: +46-13-214600http://plus.google.com/112509906846170010689 A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- Open source business process management suite built on Java and Eclipse Turn processes into business applications with Bonita BPM Community Edition Quickly connect people, data, and systems into organized workflows Winner of BOSSIE, CODIE, OW2 and Gartner awards http://p.sf.net/sfu/Bonitasoft___ Tigervnc-devel mailing list Tigervnc-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tigervnc-devel
Re: [Tigervnc-devel] Github migration?
On 06/ 2/14 11:43 PM, Pierre Ossman wrote: 4. We, as tigervnc maintainers, can comment on these changes. Even on individual lines of individual commits. The biggest downside I've seen with github is that anyone can comment on commits and pull requests, so if a commit triggers the trolls, it can become a total shitshow. (Most recent example, django's change of master/slave to primary/replica in their docs, but there's been enough others too.) Github says they're working on better moderation tools, but just be warned, you're always just one particularly stupid typo away from having your repo turn into: https://github.com/MrMEEE/bumblebee-Old-and-abbandoned/commit/a047be85247755cdbe0acce6f1dafc8beb84f2ac (which as you can see ended up causing the author to abandon the repo to get away from the endless trolling). -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersm...@oracle.com Oracle Solaris Engineering - http://blogs.oracle.com/alanc -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Tigervnc-devel mailing list Tigervnc-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tigervnc-devel
Re: [Tigervnc-devel] Github migration?
On Mon, 02 Jun 2014 23:57:00 -0700, Alan Coopersmith wrote: On 06/ 2/14 11:43 PM, Pierre Ossman wrote: 4. We, as tigervnc maintainers, can comment on these changes. Even on individual lines of individual commits. The biggest downside I've seen with github is that anyone can comment on commits and pull requests, so if a commit triggers the trolls, it can become a total shitshow. (Most recent example, django's change of master/slave to primary/replica in their docs, but there's been enough others too.) Github says they're working on better moderation tools, but just be warned, you're always just one particularly stupid typo away from having your repo turn into: https://github.com/MrMEEE/bumblebee-Old-and-abbandoned/commit/a047be85247755cdbe0acce6f1dafc8beb84f2ac (which as you can see ended up causing the author to abandon the repo to get away from the endless trolling). I'm not sure you can ever fully protect yourself against persistent idiots. But yeah, a way of locking discussion in individual places would probably be helpful in the worst cases. -- Pierre Ossman Software Development Cendio AB http://cendio.com Teknikringen 8 http://twitter.com/ThinLinc 583 30 Linköpinghttp://facebook.com/ThinLinc Phone: +46-13-214600http://plus.google.com/+CendioThinLinc A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech___ Tigervnc-devel mailing list Tigervnc-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tigervnc-devel
Re: [Tigervnc-devel] Github migration?
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 3:28 AM, Pierre Ossman wrote: On Mon, 02 Jun 2014 23:57:00 -0700, Alan Coopersmith wrote: https://github.com/MrMEEE/bumblebee-Old-and-abbandoned/commit/a047be85247755cdbe0acce6f1dafc8beb84f2ac (which as you can see ended up causing the author to abandon the repo to get away from the endless trolling). Uh, it's been years and people are still commenting. github honestly doesn't allow those forums to be locked down? I don't know if I can take that volume of email... How do they prevent spam from bastards like the I agree. Here's the link ... troll from coming through? -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book Graph Databases is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech___ Tigervnc-devel mailing list Tigervnc-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tigervnc-devel
[Tigervnc-devel] Github migration?
I think it's high time we join the cool kids over at Github. :) Seriously though, Sourceforge is pretty shit. I works, but it doesn't work well. Switching to GIT would give us a lot better work flow (IMO), and github is a lot better suited for dealing with that. The way github handles forks, pull requests and bugs makes it extremely easy to contribute, and I think that would be very beneficial for our little project here. As far as features goes, github has everything sourceforge has, except for mailing lists. My suggestion is using google groups for that. If nothing else they have a fantastic web interface for those youngsters that don't prefer mail. ;) So what do you say? I'd like to start looking at converting our repo to git and migrating rather soon. And probably look at a new release after that. Rgds -- Pierre Ossman Software Development Cendio AB http://cendio.com Teknikringen 8 http://twitter.com/ThinLinc 583 30 Linköpinghttp://facebook.com/ThinLinc Phone: +46-13-214600http://plus.google.com/+CendioThinLinc A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs___ Tigervnc-devel mailing list Tigervnc-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tigervnc-devel
Re: [Tigervnc-devel] Github migration?
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 5:14 AM, Pierre Ossman oss...@cendio.se wrote: I think it's high time we join the cool kids over at Github. :) I don't have any real objection to using github. I haven't used git very much but I'm sure I'll adjust. -brian -- Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs___ Tigervnc-devel mailing list Tigervnc-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tigervnc-devel