[time-nuts] gpib card to usb

2006-04-30 Thread Tom
got a heads up from the vendor for a gpib to usb interface that uses hyperterm 
as software and includes driver for xp. supposed to work with more than one 
instrument and has links for graphing .  anyone used one of these ?  
ebay 7614937447.
tom
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[time-nuts] FW: GPIB Controller

2006-04-30 Thread Daun Yeagley
I got a bit of information on the device
 
Daun

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From: Abdul Nizar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 11:16 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: GPIB Controller



Hello Daun.

 

You can buy from our reseller - SparkFun electronics at
http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=549

Documentation is at http://www.prologix.biz/gpibusb.html. Costs $125.

 

Thanks for your interest.

 

Regards,

Abdul

 

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From: Daun Yeagley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 8:08 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: GPIB Controller

 

I noticed your USB - GPIB controller...  How does one get one, and how much does
it cost?

 

Regards,

 

Daun

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Re: [time-nuts] For Sale - HP 5061B Cesium

2006-04-30 Thread Joseph Gray
 1. Has the restriction on shipping c(a)esium gone away?

I didn't know there was a restriction. I told the UPS guy what I wanted to
ship and he even claimed to know what it was. He said he had shipped one
before.

 2. The R-390 class receivers are about the weight of a 5061. I've never
 heard anything good from the r390 list about using UPS stores for
 anything over 10-20 pounds. There have been disaster stories about the
 condition of sets that were shipped by such stores. They don't understand
 about double boxing and the ability of an object to settle to the bottom
 of a pile of peanuts during shipment. Personally, my best shipping
 experience was an R-391 (pickup only, many states away) that I had picked
 up, crated and shipped by an air freight company. Cost $150 about 15 years
 ago. Would have been more expensive if I hadn't picked it up from the air
 freight terminal at the airport.

I voiced my concern about peanuts to the UPS guy and he said that he would
use thick foam sheets. He said he ships heavy stuff all the time. He also
said that if UPS boxed it and it was damaged in shipping, they would pay the
claim without any hassle, vs someone else boxing it. I assume he knew what
he was talking about, as he was the UPS Store manager.

 3. Insurance pays the shipper if damage to the package can be proved
 quickly by the shippee. It is best to be there and refuse to accept the
 shipment if the box is leaking peanuts. Some trust is required for
payment.

Yes, if the box is obviously damaged upon delivery, it should either be
immediately opened or refused, depending on the condition. I have made the
UPS driver wait while I opened a damaged box in the past. However, if UPS
takes responsibility for their own packaging job (as I was told), then I
would feel more comfortable about things. I am willing to arrange most any
type of shipping (within reason), as long as the buyer is willing to pay for
it.

 P.S. Is 20 the right value for beam current, or is it half of normal?

I just checked my copy of the manual and it says that 20 is nominal for
beam current.


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[time-nuts] UPS packing and shipment

2006-04-30 Thread Didier Juges
I have shipped a number of heavy and fragile items via the local UPS 
stores (there were 2 local stores here, now down to one). I have always 
let them pack the heavy items (and paid for the service). They do a good 
job and I have sold a number of scopes and other heavy instruments 
(spectrum analyzers) that way with no damage ever reported. One 466 
scope that went to Columbia I packed myself using the UPS technique but 
twice (double boxed) and shipped USPS because UPS is such a pain with 
international shipments. No damage either. After getting friendly with 
the UPS store lady, she now lets me help with the packing operation and 
I get a discount on the cost. I can make extra sure the item is well 
packed that way and save a few $ (and save time).

YMMV

Didier KO4BB

Bill Hawkins wrote:

Two things come to mind -

1. Has the restriction on shipping c(a)esium gone away?

2. The R-390 class receivers are about the weight of a 5061. I've never
heard anything good from the r390 list about using UPS stores for
anything over 10-20 pounds. There have been disaster stories about the
condition of sets that were shipped by such stores. They don't understand
about double boxing and the ability of an object to settle to the bottom
of a pile of peanuts during shipment. Personally, my best shipping
experience was an R-391 (pickup only, many states away) that I had picked
up, crated and shipped by an air freight company. Cost $150 about 15 years
ago. Would have been more expensive if I hadn't picked it up from the air
freight terminal at the airport.

Well, maybe three things ...

3. Insurance pays the shipper if damage to the package can be proved
quickly by the shippee. It is best to be there and refuse to accept the
shipment if the box is leaking peanuts. Some trust is required for payment.

Regards,
Bill Hawkins
  



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Re: [time-nuts] For Sale - HP 5061B Cesium

2006-04-30 Thread Didier Juges
The local UPS store uses peanuts (and bubble wrap) only below 15 lbs or 
so. Above that, they use crushed paper after wrapping the item in 3 
layers of heavy duty bubble wrap. They make sure there is at least 3 
inches of clearance after the bubble wrap in the final box and stuff the 
space with crushed paper. For instruments that don't have a handle, 
particularly scopes, I ask them to put one more layer of bubble wrap on 
the front to protect the buttons and switches in case they would 
puncture the 1st layer of bubble wrap.

Didier KO4BB

Joseph Gray wrote:


I voiced my concern about peanuts to the UPS guy and he said that he would
use thick foam sheets. He said he ships heavy stuff all the time. He also
said that if UPS boxed it and it was damaged in shipping, they would pay the
claim without any hassle, vs someone else boxing it. I assume he knew what
he was talking about, as he was the UPS Store manager.

  



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Re: [time-nuts] For Sale - HP 5061B Cesium

2006-04-30 Thread Bill Hawkins
Well, there you go. It seems to be human nature to not challenge a
lesson already learned, so that improvements are not noticed.

Thanks for the update.

I bought a Tracor 4040 cesium standard several years ago. The sale was
local because the shipping case for the unit carried a warning about
cesium inside. Cesium is flammable in water. Never mind that it is a
small quantity sealed in a welded steel tube. The seller had investigated
shipping and was deterred by the special handling required to ship
dangerous flammable materials.

Regards,
Bill Hawkins


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Joseph Gray
Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 11:35 AM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] For Sale - HP 5061B Cesium


 1. Has the restriction on shipping c(a)esium gone away?

I didn't know there was a restriction. I told the UPS guy what I wanted to
ship and he even claimed to know what it was. He said he had shipped one
before.

 2. The R-390 class receivers are about the weight of a 5061. I've never
 heard anything good from the r390 list about using UPS stores for
 anything over 10-20 pounds. There have been disaster stories about the
 condition of sets that were shipped by such stores. They don't understand
 about double boxing and the ability of an object to settle to the bottom
 of a pile of peanuts during shipment. Personally, my best shipping
 experience was an R-391 (pickup only, many states away) that I had picked
 up, crated and shipped by an air freight company. Cost $150 about 15 years
 ago. Would have been more expensive if I hadn't picked it up from the air
 freight terminal at the airport.

I voiced my concern about peanuts to the UPS guy and he said that he would
use thick foam sheets. He said he ships heavy stuff all the time. He also
said that if UPS boxed it and it was damaged in shipping, they would pay the
claim without any hassle, vs someone else boxing it. I assume he knew what
he was talking about, as he was the UPS Store manager.

 3. Insurance pays the shipper if damage to the package can be proved
 quickly by the shippee. It is best to be there and refuse to accept the
 shipment if the box is leaking peanuts. Some trust is required for
payment.

Yes, if the box is obviously damaged upon delivery, it should either be
immediately opened or refused, depending on the condition. I have made the
UPS driver wait while I opened a damaged box in the past. However, if UPS
takes responsibility for their own packaging job (as I was told), then I
would feel more comfortable about things. I am willing to arrange most any
type of shipping (within reason), as long as the buyer is willing to pay for
it.

 P.S. Is 20 the right value for beam current, or is it half of normal?

I just checked my copy of the manual and it says that 20 is nominal for
beam current.


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Re: [time-nuts] For Sale - HP 5061B Cesium

2006-04-30 Thread David Andersen
HP has a shipping exemption for their standards.  I don't know what  
one needs to do to take advantage of it.  In the general case, you  
can't ship caesium, but the HP stuff is - as noted - small and  
sealed, and they jumped through the hoops.


  -Dave

On Apr 30, 2006, at 5:02 PM, Bill Hawkins wrote:


Well, there you go. It seems to be human nature to not challenge a
lesson already learned, so that improvements are not noticed.

Thanks for the update.

I bought a Tracor 4040 cesium standard several years ago. The sale was
local because the shipping case for the unit carried a warning about
cesium inside. Cesium is flammable in water. Never mind that it is a
small quantity sealed in a welded steel tube. The seller had  
investigated

shipping and was deterred by the special handling required to ship
dangerous flammable materials.

Regards,
Bill Hawkins


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Joseph Gray
Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 11:35 AM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] For Sale - HP 5061B Cesium



1. Has the restriction on shipping c(a)esium gone away?


I didn't know there was a restriction. I told the UPS guy what I  
wanted to
ship and he even claimed to know what it was. He said he had  
shipped one

before.

2. The R-390 class receivers are about the weight of a 5061. I've  
never

heard anything good from the r390 list about using UPS stores for
anything over 10-20 pounds. There have been disaster stories about  
the
condition of sets that were shipped by such stores. They don't  
understand
about double boxing and the ability of an object to settle to the  
bottom

of a pile of peanuts during shipment. Personally, my best shipping
experience was an R-391 (pickup only, many states away) that I had  
picked
up, crated and shipped by an air freight company. Cost $150 about  
15 years
ago. Would have been more expensive if I hadn't picked it up from  
the air

freight terminal at the airport.


I voiced my concern about peanuts to the UPS guy and he said that  
he would
use thick foam sheets. He said he ships heavy stuff all the time.  
He also
said that if UPS boxed it and it was damaged in shipping, they  
would pay the
claim without any hassle, vs someone else boxing it. I assume he  
knew what

he was talking about, as he was the UPS Store manager.


3. Insurance pays the shipper if damage to the package can be proved
quickly by the shippee. It is best to be there and refuse to  
accept the

shipment if the box is leaking peanuts. Some trust is required for

payment.

Yes, if the box is obviously damaged upon delivery, it should  
either be
immediately opened or refused, depending on the condition. I have  
made the
UPS driver wait while I opened a damaged box in the past. However,  
if UPS
takes responsibility for their own packaging job (as I was told),  
then I
would feel more comfortable about things. I am willing to arrange  
most any
type of shipping (within reason), as long as the buyer is willing  
to pay for

it.


P.S. Is 20 the right value for beam current, or is it half of normal?


I just checked my copy of the manual and it says that 20 is  
nominal for

beam current.


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Re: [time-nuts] For Sale - HP 5061B Cesium

2006-04-30 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
David Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
: HP has a shipping exemption for their standards.  I don't know what  
: one needs to do to take advantage of it.  In the general case, you  
: can't ship caesium, but the HP stuff is - as noted - small and  
: sealed, and they jumped through the hoops.

The shipping exemption is only with approved boxes (I think the
original box only?).  I think it is also for the 5071A only, not the
5061...

Warner


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Re: [time-nuts] Motorola Oncore Basic Command @@Bk Help -- Update

2006-04-30 Thread SAIDJACK
Hi George,
 
sounds like a challange :)
 
Would love to see your final version.
 
good luck,
SJ
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Re: [time-nuts] Efratom FRK-L pinout?

2006-04-30 Thread Peter Lacey
Hi Ulrich,

I apologize for my late response, but for some reason, your reply never got
to my email account, I just read it in the archive!

In any case, thank you very much for the pinout, it is consistent with which
pins on my connector do and do not have wires attached. If you still want to
send the manual, the best address is:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks again,
73 de Peter, AA1ZU

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Ulrich Bangert
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 2:46 AM
To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Efratom FRK-L pinout?

Peter,

FRK-Ls hve been sold in at least two flavours: One features a coaxial
connector for rf and a number of contacts in a single row, the other
features a 3-row-connector with rf beeing part of this.

Which flavour did you get?

73 de Ulrich, DF6JB 

 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Peter Lacey
 Gesendet: Mittwoch, 26. April 2006 01:30
 An: time-nuts@febo.com
 Betreff: [time-nuts] Efratom FRK-L pinout?
 
 
 Does anyone have a pinout diagram for and Efratom FRK-L 
 rubidium oscillator? I bought one on eBay assuming I could 
 find the diagram on the net, but have had no luck. Thanks.
 
  
 
 Peter Lacey
 
 AA1ZU
 
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Re: [time-nuts] For Sale - HP 5061B Cesium

2006-04-30 Thread Joseph Gray
Thanks a lot for the links. I have printed out all the relevant information
and will take it with me to UPS when it's time to ship. This should avoid
any potential hassles.

- Original Message - 
From: Hal Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 8:26 PM
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] For Sale - HP 5061B Cesium



  HP has a shipping exemption for their standards.  I don't know what
  one needs to do to take advantage of it.  In the general case, you
  can't ship caesium, but the HP stuff is - as noted - small and
  sealed, and they jumped through the hoops.

 Thanks for the heads up.


 http://www.agilent.com/metrology/hazardous.shtml

 There is a link near the bottom (long URL so I won't bother copying it)
 titled:
   5071A Shipping Instructions

 It says:
   Instructions for Older CBTs tells how to label a caesium beam tube that
 does not have the required marking for shipping when using these
 instructions. This applies to any tube manufactured prior to November
2001,
 including tubes inside the Agilent 5061A/B and 5071A.
   http://www.home.agilent.com/upload/cmc_upload/All/EPSG088876.pdf

 It says:
   When shipping a 5071A or a replacement CBT in accordance with IATA
 international DG rules, check the instrument for the above marking. If the
 marking is present (visible through the cover perforation), follow the
IATA
 international shipping instruction given elsewhere in this website. If the
 marking is missing, order Label P/N 05071-80030 from Agilent or download
from
 this website. Affix it to the CBT as shown. Follow the shipping
instruction
 referenced above.



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