Re: [time-nuts] GPS Display clock

2010-03-31 Thread bg
Hi Sanjeev,

 On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 13:51, b...@lysator.liu.se wrote:

  Zealand is an island between Denmark and Sweden.

 Was not aware of that. Lat/Lon?


 55.5N 11.75E

Ahaa... Zealand is the English name for Sjaelland. Well, Sjaelland _is_
Denmark. Try telling a dane 'Copenhagen is on an island between...'.
Beeing in that area, I would describe Ven - home of Tycho Brahe - as an
island between Denmark and Sweden. With Ven we also get back on topic...
Tycho Brahe -- Kepler -- Kepler parameters aka ephemeris -- GPS etc.

--

   Björn


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[time-nuts] GPS Display clock (Dave Lance)

2010-03-31 Thread mc0fred
G'Day Dave,

Would one of these do the job?

http://www.siliconchip.com.au/cms/A_111363/article.html

http://www.siliconchip.com.au/cms/A_111709/article.html

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Re: [time-nuts] GPS Display clock

2010-03-31 Thread Magnus Danielson

b...@lysator.liu.se wrote:

Hi Sanjeev,

  

On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 13:51, b...@lysator.liu.se wrote:



Zealand is an island between Denmark and Sweden.


Was not aware of that. Lat/Lon?

  

55.5N 11.75E



Ahaa... Zealand is the English name for Sjaelland. Well, Sjaelland _is_
Denmark. Try telling a dane 'Copenhagen is on an island between...'.
Beeing in that area, I would describe Ven - home of Tycho Brahe - as an
island between Denmark and Sweden. With Ven we also get back on topic...
Tycho Brahe -- Kepler -- Kepler parameters aka ephemeris -- GPS etc.
Members of this list lives on Sjælland/Zeeland. The danish capital 
Copenhagen is on that island. Ven and Saltholm is more inbetween yes... 
Saltholm is that large spec of nothingness you lay your eyes on when 
landing at Copenhagen Airport Kastrup, which is located on another 
island called Amager.


I must recall looking at the clock in the Copenhagen City hall, Jens 
Olsen's World clock:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jens_Olsen%27s_World_Clock
always forget that.

Cheers,
Magnus

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Re: [time-nuts] HP10514B Mixers

2010-03-31 Thread EWKehren
Is there a way you can post it on time-nuts?
Thank you 
Bert Kehren
 
 
In a message dated 3/30/2010 9:10:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
kilodelta4foxm...@gmail.com writes:

We'll  the As are the package with the BNC connector.

The Bs are for OEM  equipment, they had 6 pins and a smaller plastic 
black case  

Turns out they have some of the lowest phase noise specs on  record

I can send the manual, if you  like...

Brian

Mike Feher wrote:
 I do not believe that I  am familiar with the 10514B. I probably have 
about 6
 or so 10514As  with BNC connectors (most in a metal case and a few in 
epoxy),
 and, I  recall from about 40 years ago a 10514A that was a small little 
black
  cube with leads for mounting on a PC board. Naturally, I had to take  one
 apart back then as that was the fun part. In the late 60's I  designed a
 thick-film phase detector that was used in an ASW system,  where I simply
 matched the hot carrier HP diodes for a fixed voltage  drop at a given
 current. We also wound the toroids, and had an op-amp  on the output. Wow,
 that was ages ago. Regards - Mike

  Mike B. Feher, N4FS
 89 Arnold Blvd.
 Howell, NJ, 07731
  732-886-5960





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Re: [time-nuts] GPS Display clock

2010-03-31 Thread Bruce Griffiths

b...@lysator.liu.se wrote:

Zealand is an island between Denmark and Sweden.
 

Was not aware of that. Lat/Lon?

   

Zeeland is a province of the Netherlands
 

Been there...

   

Bruce
 

--

Björn


   

The name New Zealand originates from the latter via Dutch Cartographers.

Bruce


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[time-nuts] GPS Display clock

2010-03-31 Thread G0MIC
Dave 
 
If you don't mind building it yourself and customising some PIC code try  
this 
_http://www.g4jnt.com/GPLOCDIS.ZIP_ (http://www.g4jnt.com/GPLOCDIS.ZIP) 
 
I used a different GPS unit and found a minor bug in the code because of  
that but if you go down this route I can let you have the updated code if 
Andy  has not updated his version.
 
Regards
 
Malcolm
G0MIC
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Re: [time-nuts] OT Question - Surplus Places

2010-03-31 Thread paul swed
Never heard of elis and I have been out here 12 years.
NH had some places and as mentioned a few exist. I used to visit some just
across the ma/nh boarder. But most of what I have seen has been the very
very bottom of the barrel.
Oh for the flea market days when trucks of test equipment showed up at and
was about $25 per unit at the end of the day. Carry away sales.
The stuff was maybe 10 years old. Sure it may or may not have worked. But
the gamble was worth it.
I learned a lot about how to build and engineer equipment from the repair of
that stuff.
And to this day I still remember The one that got away. The trunk was
already loaded/jammed with goodies. End of the flea market, back of a large
truck was a full voltage cal lab for about $50. Good shape physically.
These were the fluke standards and voltage amplifiers DC and AC the whole
shootin match.
Oh well those were the days. Good memories.

On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 1:27 AM, Lester Veenstra les...@veenstras.comwrote:

 I guess this means Eli's is gone !



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 Subject: Re: [time-nuts] OT Question - Surplus Places

 As to Boston, there is little in the Boston/Cambridge area any more.


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[time-nuts] OT Question - Surplus Places

2010-03-31 Thread Arthur Dent
Lester Veenstra-I guess this means Eli's is gone !

I used to go to Eli Heffron  Sons when Eli ran it and also 
after the two sons took over the business. There was always 
something of interest to be found. I never knew I 'needed' an 
item until I saw it at the bottom of a pile of other treasures.

I believe it has now morphed into a business called E.L.I. that 
sells used computer workstations. It is still located at 139 
Hampshire Ave. but I haven't been there in 20 years or so. 




  
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Re: [time-nuts] OT Question - Surplus Places

2010-03-31 Thread Stanley Reynolds
I'm in Birmingham and even the thrift stores here list their stuff on ebay, 
could give you a list of closed places, was one in Decatur ... 

You can find places using ebay and see if they will let you come by for a look, 
no joy for time-nuts stuff but for other stuff this has worked for me.

UAB has had auctions in the past but checking their web site no updates ...

Hamfest are the best bet to pickup items not on ebay but to be honest my 
favorites are in Georgia.

Stanley



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From: paul swed paulsw...@gmail.com
To: les...@veenstras.com; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement 
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Sent: Wed, March 31, 2010 8:16:52 AM
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] OT Question - Surplus Places

Never heard of elis and I have been out here 12 years.
NH had some places and as mentioned a few exist. I used to visit some just
across the ma/nh boarder. But most of what I have seen has been the very
very bottom of the barrel.
Oh for the flea market days when trucks of test equipment showed up at and
was about $25 per unit at the end of the day. Carry away sales.
The stuff was maybe 10 years old. Sure it may or may not have worked. But
the gamble was worth it.
I learned a lot about how to build and engineer equipment from the repair of
that stuff.
And to this day I still remember The one that got away. The trunk was
already loaded/jammed with goodies. End of the flea market, back of a large
truck was a full voltage cal lab for about $50. Good shape physically.
These were the fluke standards and voltage amplifiers DC and AC the whole
shootin match.
Oh well those were the days. Good memories.

On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 1:27 AM, Lester Veenstra les...@veenstras.comwrote:

 I guess this means Eli's is gone !



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 Subject: Re: [time-nuts] OT Question - Surplus Places

 As to Boston, there is little in the Boston/Cambridge area any more.


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Re: [time-nuts] HP10514B Mixers

2010-03-31 Thread Brian Kirby

The manual is about a megabyte - the list will not accept it.

ewkeh...@aol.com wrote:

Is there a way you can post it on time-nuts?
Thank you 
Bert Kehren
 
 
In a message dated 3/30/2010 9:10:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
kilodelta4foxm...@gmail.com writes:


We'll  the As are the package with the BNC connector.

The Bs are for OEM  equipment, they had 6 pins and a smaller plastic 
black case  


Turns out they have some of the lowest phase noise specs on  record

I can send the manual, if you  like...

Brian

Mike Feher wrote:
  
I do not believe that I  am familiar with the 10514B. I probably have 


about 6
  
or so 10514As  with BNC connectors (most in a metal case and a few in 


epoxy),
  
and, I  recall from about 40 years ago a 10514A that was a small little 


black
  

 cube with leads for mounting on a PC board. Naturally, I had to take  one
apart back then as that was the fun part. In the late 60's I  designed a
thick-film phase detector that was used in an ASW system,  where I simply
matched the hot carrier HP diodes for a fixed voltage  drop at a given
current. We also wound the toroids, and had an op-amp  on the output. Wow,
that was ages ago. Regards - Mike

 Mike B. Feher, N4FS
89 Arnold Blvd.
Howell, NJ, 07731
 732-886-5960





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[time-nuts] For Brian Kirby

2010-03-31 Thread John Green
Going to Talladega? I am in Anniston, just a hop, skip away. If you get
time, drop by. I am at 1750 Coleman Rd. We don't have a Time Nuts quality
lab here but do have some interesting stuff.
John Green
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Re: [time-nuts] OT Question - Surplus Places

2010-03-31 Thread J. Forster
They went into the DEC and PC business years ago and I've not been there
in 30 years. I've heard the brothers, Ben and Jay are both long dead.

Meshna is also long gone.

BnF is still around but selling mostly PC related stuff. Peter Boniface 
comes to most of the MIT Fleas.

There are a couple of other dealers around, but AFAIK they do not have
stores.

-John




 I guess this means Eli's is gone !



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Re: [time-nuts] OT Question - Surplus Places

2010-03-31 Thread J. Forster
 Never heard of elis and I have been out here 12 years.
 NH had some places and as mentioned a few exist. I used to visit some just
 across the ma/nh boarder. But most of what I have seen has been the very
 very bottom of the barrel.
 Oh for the flea market days when trucks of test equipment showed up at and
 was about $25 per unit at the end of the day. Carry away sales.
 The stuff was maybe 10 years old. Sure it may or may not have worked. But
 the gamble was worth it.
 I learned a lot about how to build and engineer equipment from the repair
 of
 that stuff.
 And to this day I still remember The one that got away. The trunk was
 already loaded/jammed with goodies. End of the flea market, back of a
 large
 truck was a full voltage cal lab for about $50.

That sounds like a Hoss Traders, which is still held but now called
NEARfest. It has been at several NH locations, including:

Deerfield
Salem
Rochester
Hopkington
and back at Deerfield

It's more radio than test gear or 'puter oriented.

-John



 Good shape physically.
 These were the fluke standards and voltage amplifiers DC and AC the whole
 shootin match.
 Oh well those were the days. Good memories.

 On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 1:27 AM, Lester Veenstra
 les...@veenstras.comwrote:

 I guess this means Eli's is gone !



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Re: [time-nuts] OT Question - Surplus Places

2010-03-31 Thread Joseph M Gwinn
There is also Young Engineering in Salem, Mass. 
http://www.youngengsales.com/

They used to have more electronics stuff, but they seem to have become a 
used machine tool dealer.  Well, the electronics stuff may be too numerous 
and cheap to be worth listing on the website.


time-nuts-boun...@febo.com wrote on 03/30/2010 10:57:33 PM:

 From:
 
 J. Forster j...@quik.com
 
 To:
 
 Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-
 n...@febo.com
 
 Date:
 
 03/30/2010 11:05 PM
 
 Subject:
 
 Re: [time-nuts] OT Question - Surplus Places
 
 Sent by:
 
 time-nuts-boun...@febo.com
 
 As to Boston, there is little in the Boston/Cambridge area any more.
 
 There are a couple of places in southern NH, figure an hour north by 
car:
 
 Electronic Planet in Candia
 PAR Associates in Manchester
 
 If you are in the area on the third Sunday of any month, April 
 to October,
 the MIT UHFRA Flea Market in the Albany Garage is very well worth the
 trip.
 
 Best,
 
 -John
 
 ===
 
 
  Folks;
 
 [snip]
 
  In as much as most of us can only afford this hobby if we buy
  surplus, I was wondering if you folks would care to share some of
  your favorite surplus places?
  P.S. - future trips include St. Louis MO, Phoenix AZ, and Boston MA
  if anything comes to mind therein.
 
 
 
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Re: [time-nuts] HP10514B Mixers

2010-03-31 Thread EWKehren
Would you mind sending it direct to me at _ewkeh...@aol.com_ 
(mailto:ewkeh...@aol.com)  as an attachment?  You know we are in the test phase 
of a Dual 
Mixer and we are also running  tests with the 10514 A and B along with the 
SYPD-1. The next board will accept  the footprint of the 10514 B.   Bert
 
 
In a message dated 3/31/2010 9:37:55 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
kilodelta4foxm...@gmail.com writes:

The  manual is about a megabyte - the list will not accept  it.

ewkeh...@aol.com wrote:
 Is there a way you can post it on  time-nuts?
 Thank you 
 Bert Kehren
  
   
 In a message dated 3/30/2010 9:10:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight  Time,  
 kilodelta4foxm...@gmail.com writes:

  We'll  the As are the package with the BNC connector.

  The Bs are for OEM  equipment, they had 6 pins and a smaller plastic  
 black case  

 Turns out they have some of the  lowest phase noise specs on  record

 I can send the  manual, if you  like...

 Brian

 Mike Feher  wrote:
   
 I do not believe that I  am  familiar with the 10514B. I probably have 
  
 about 6
   
 or so 10514As  with BNC  connectors (most in a metal case and a few in 
  
 epoxy),
   
 and, I  recall from  about 40 years ago a 10514A that was a small little 
   
 black
   
  cube with  leads for mounting on a PC board. Naturally, I had to take   
one
 apart back then as that was the fun part. In the late 60's  I  designed a
 thick-film phase detector that was used in an  ASW system,  where I 
simply
 matched the hot carrier HP diodes  for a fixed voltage  drop at a given
 current. We also wound  the toroids, and had an op-amp  on the output. 
Wow,
 that was  ages ago. Regards - Mike

  Mike B. Feher,  N4FS
 89 Arnold Blvd.
 Howell, NJ,  07731
   732-886-5960





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Re: [time-nuts] OT Question - Surplus Places

2010-03-31 Thread J. Forster
Brother Ben ran the surplus store
Brother Jay ran Solid State Sales, the IC operation in the basement.

-John




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 Subject: [time-nuts] OT Question - Surplus Places

 Lester Veenstra-I guess this means Eli's is gone !

 I used to go to Eli Heffron  Sons when Eli ran it and also after the two
 sons took over the business. There was always something of interest to be
 found. I never knew I 'needed' an item until I saw it at the bottom of a
 pile of other treasures.

 I believe it has now morphed into a business called E.L.I. that sells used
 computer workstations. It is still located at 139 Hampshire Ave. but I
 haven't been there in 20 years or so.





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Re: [time-nuts] OT Question - Surplus Places

2010-03-31 Thread Lester Veenstra
And I had completely forgotten about Meshnas.  Spent much more time there,
and one company in the same area that morphed into electronic music
instruments.



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Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 4:28 PM
To: les...@veenstras.com; Discussion of precise time and frequency
measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] OT Question - Surplus Places

Brother Ben ran the surplus store
Brother Jay ran Solid State Sales, the IC operation in the basement.

-John




 That's the placeUsed to buy RTL logic there



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 -Original Message-
 From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] 
 On Behalf Of Arthur Dent
 Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 2:30 PM
 To: time-nuts@febo.com
 Subject: [time-nuts] OT Question - Surplus Places

 Lester Veenstra-I guess this means Eli's is gone !

 I used to go to Eli Heffron  Sons when Eli ran it and also after the 
 two sons took over the business. There was always something of 
 interest to be found. I never knew I 'needed' an item until I saw it 
 at the bottom of a pile of other treasures.

 I believe it has now morphed into a business called E.L.I. that sells 
 used computer workstations. It is still located at 139 Hampshire Ave. 
 but I haven't been there in 20 years or so.





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Re: [time-nuts] HP 00105-6012 5 MHz Crystal Oven Assy.

2010-03-31 Thread paul swed
Ignacio
I do not know. But those ovens actually started me in the world of frequency
references.
I found one at a computerfest many years ago 1992 for 50 cents.
I discovered they were used in the HP5360 (I now have 4 of those working)and
HP5248m as I recall. I think they were used in other equipment also.

Since then at flea markets I have found for little money 5-7 of these
crystal ovens. One I use as a backup should the GPSDO/Rb fail.

On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 2:05 PM, EB4APL eb4...@cembreros.jazztel.es wrote:

 Hello,
 I have seen one of those oscillators on the usual site.  I own one
 00105-6013 and I know the range of frequency standards which used one.
 Externally both look identical but, anybody know the differences and the
 equipments that used them?  Just a matter of curiosity.

 Regards,
 Ignacio, EB4APL


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Re: [time-nuts] HP10514B Mixers

2010-03-31 Thread Bruce Griffiths

Upload it to the manuals section of Didier's site:
http://www.ko4bb.com/cgi-bin/manuals.pl

Bruce

Brian Kirby wrote:

The manual is about a megabyte - the list will not accept it.

ewkeh...@aol.com wrote:

Is there a way you can post it on time-nuts?
Thank you Bert Kehren


In a message dated 3/30/2010 9:10:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
kilodelta4foxm...@gmail.com writes:


We'll  the As are the package with the BNC connector.

The Bs are for OEM  equipment, they had 6 pins and a smaller 
plastic black case  


Turns out they have some of the lowest phase noise specs on  record

I can send the manual, if you  like...

Brian

Mike Feher wrote:
I do not believe that I  am familiar with the 10514B. I probably have 

about 6
or so 10514As  with BNC connectors (most in a metal case and a few in 

epoxy),
and, I  recall from about 40 years ago a 10514A that was a small little 

black
 cube with leads for mounting on a PC board. Naturally, I had to 
take  one
apart back then as that was the fun part. In the late 60's I  
designed a
thick-film phase detector that was used in an ASW system,  where I 
simply

matched the hot carrier HP diodes for a fixed voltage  drop at a given
current. We also wound the toroids, and had an op-amp  on the 
output. Wow,

that was ages ago. Regards - Mike

 Mike B. Feher, N4FS
89 Arnold Blvd.
Howell, NJ, 07731
 732-886-5960





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[time-nuts] Surplus Places...

2010-03-31 Thread Burt I. Weiner
In the Southern, California - Los Angeles area, we have a place 
called Apex Electronics.  Some of the prices in the past have been 
outrageous, but now seem to becoming more reasonable.  Right now 
there seems to be a ton of NTSC TV stuffs coming in the doors.  I 
think you could spend days foraging around at Apex.


Here's a link that really doesn't even begin to do it justice:

http://www.apexelectronic.com/

Burt, K6OQK

Burt I. Weiner Associates
Broadcast Technical Services
Glendale, California  U.S.A.
b...@att.net
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Re: [time-nuts] Surplus Places...

2010-03-31 Thread paul swed
I spotted this place a couple years ago. Noted it but have not been back to
LA with time to get to the place. It indeed looks like a great place for the
things I tend to be interested in.
Though good to here the $ may be more reasonable. In Santa Clara some of the
places want gold for true junk.

On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Burt I. Weiner b...@att.net wrote:

 In the Southern, California - Los Angeles area, we have a place called Apex
 Electronics.  Some of the prices in the past have been outrageous, but now
 seem to becoming more reasonable.  Right now there seems to be a ton of NTSC
 TV stuffs coming in the doors.  I think you could spend days foraging around
 at Apex.

 Here's a link that really doesn't even begin to do it justice:

 http://www.apexelectronic.com/

 Burt, K6OQK

 Burt I. Weiner Associates
 Broadcast Technical Services
 Glendale, California  U.S.A.
 b...@att.net
 K6OQK

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Re: [time-nuts] HP10514B Mixers

2010-03-31 Thread Brian Kirby

I uploaded the 10514 and 10534 mixer manuals to ko4bb site

Bruce Griffiths wrote:

Upload it to the manuals section of Didier's site:
http://www.ko4bb.com/cgi-bin/manuals.pl

Bruce



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Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 68, Issue 177

2010-03-31 Thread Dave M



Message: 4
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 08:28:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: J. Forster j...@quik.com
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] OT Question - Surplus Places
To: les...@veenstras.com, Discussion of precise time and frequency
measurement time-nuts@febo.com
Message-ID: 49609.12.6.201.2.1270049289.squir...@popaccts.quik.com
Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1

Brother Ben ran the surplus store
Brother Jay ran Solid State Sales, the IC operation in the basement.

-John





That's the placeUsed to buy RTL logic there



And can't forget about Meshna's, Poly Paks and Delta Electronics.  I spent a 
lot of mail order money at those places, as well as Solid State Sales. 
Delta was a great place to buy power supply parts and kits.  IIRC, Delta and 
Meshna also sold parts for early computer systems, including used 8 and 
5-1/4  floppy drives.  I sure miss those places.
Thwere was another place in the south side of Chicago that I used to love to 
stroll through while I was stationed at the Naval training Center in Great 
Lakes, Ill.  Can't recall the name of the place, but seems like it was on 
South Western Way.  They had a boat load of surplus military gear.


Cheers,
Dave M



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Re: [time-nuts] Surplus Places...

2010-03-31 Thread Tom Holmes, N8ZM
Dayton Hamvention, May 14-16.

Always lots of surplus equipment dealers in flea market. Good opportunity to
haggle over price, see what you are buying in person, and see a lot of other
junque as well.

www.hamvention.org

Regards,

Tom Holmes, N8ZM
Tipp City, OH
EM79xx

-Original Message-
From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On
Behalf Of Burt I. Weiner
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 3:25 PM
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: [time-nuts] Surplus Places...

In the Southern, California - Los Angeles area, we have a place 
called Apex Electronics.  Some of the prices in the past have been 
outrageous, but now seem to becoming more reasonable.  Right now 
there seems to be a ton of NTSC TV stuffs coming in the doors.  I 
think you could spend days foraging around at Apex.

Here's a link that really doesn't even begin to do it justice:

http://www.apexelectronic.com/

Burt, K6OQK

Burt I. Weiner Associates
Broadcast Technical Services
Glendale, California  U.S.A.
b...@att.net
K6OQK 


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Re: [time-nuts] Surplus Places...

2010-03-31 Thread J. Forster
Apex was in Sun Valley. They were there in 1979 and had lots of aerospace
telemetry stuff there. I bought an Omega receiver and carried it to Boston
as baggage. Those were the days.

Sadly CH is now gone. I don't know if Palley Supply is still in business.

There was also Industrial Liquidators at the Holly Turnoff in San Carlos.

-John

=


 In the Southern, California - Los Angeles area, we have a place
 called Apex Electronics.  Some of the prices in the past have been
 outrageous, but now seem to becoming more reasonable.  Right now
 there seems to be a ton of NTSC TV stuffs coming in the doors.  I
 think you could spend days foraging around at Apex.

 Here's a link that really doesn't even begin to do it justice:

 http://www.apexelectronic.com/

 Burt, K6OQK

 Burt I. Weiner Associates
 Broadcast Technical Services
 Glendale, California  U.S.A.
 b...@att.net
 K6OQK


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Re: [time-nuts] Surplus Places...

2010-03-31 Thread J. Forster
This I can't resist!

In about 1963, I was at Eli Heffron's in Cambridge. The old man, Eli was
still alive. Anyway, they had won a big lot for many kilobucks from IBM
near NYC. I was there when they unloaded.

They were all hot about the money they were going to make form all the
memory cores they had gotten. Core memory was highly sought after in
those days!

At first, they thought they'd been cheated by IBM, then I found a small
carton with lots of little plastic bottles of loose memory cores.I've
probably still got a bottle around someplace.

Boy, were they PISSED! LoL.

-John

==


  Recently seen at Apex : NOS  Ampex Ferrotech Memory cores 45k in a
 vial , $2 .
                                          Ask for Don.

                                        Steve 

 --- On Wed, 3/31/10, Burt I. Weiner b...@att.net wrote:

 From: Burt I. Weiner b...@att.net
 Subject: [time-nuts] Surplus Places...
 To: time-nuts@febo.com
 Date: Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 12:24 PM

 In the Southern, California - Los Angeles area, we have a place called
 Apex Electronics.  Some of the prices in the past have been outrageous,
 but now seem to becoming more reasonable.  Right now there seems to be a
 ton of NTSC TV stuffs coming in the doors.  I think you could spend days
 foraging around at Apex.

 Here's a link that really doesn't even begin to do it justice:

 http://www.apexelectronic.com/

 Burt, K6OQK

 Burt I. Weiner Associates
 Broadcast Technical Services
 Glendale, California  U.S.A.
 b...@att.net
 K6OQK

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Re: [time-nuts] Surplus Places...

2010-03-31 Thread Don Latham
Goes to showya---word order can be important, core memory and memory
core...hehe
Don

J. Forster
 This I can't resist!

 In about 1963, I was at Eli Heffron's in Cambridge. The old man, Eli was
 still alive. Anyway, they had won a big lot for many kilobucks from IBM
 near NYC. I was there when they unloaded.

 They were all hot about the money they were going to make form all the
 memory cores they had gotten. Core memory was highly sought after in
 those days!

 At first, they thought they'd been cheated by IBM, then I found a small
 carton with lots of little plastic bottles of loose memory cores.I've
 probably still got a bottle around someplace.

 Boy, were they PISSED! LoL.

 -John

 ==


  Recently seen at Apex : NOS  Ampex Ferrotech Memory cores 45k in a
 vial , $2 .
                                          Ask for Don.

                                        Steve 

 --- On Wed, 3/31/10, Burt I. Weiner b...@att.net wrote:

 From: Burt I. Weiner b...@att.net
 Subject: [time-nuts] Surplus Places...
 To: time-nuts@febo.com
 Date: Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 12:24 PM

 In the Southern, California - Los Angeles area, we have a place called
 Apex Electronics.  Some of the prices in the past have been outrageous,
 but now seem to becoming more reasonable.  Right now there seems to be a
 ton of NTSC TV stuffs coming in the doors.  I think you could spend days
 foraging around at Apex.

 Here's a link that really doesn't even begin to do it justice:

 http://www.apexelectronic.com/

 Burt, K6OQK

 Burt I. Weiner Associates
 Broadcast Technical Services
 Glendale, California  U.S.A.
 b...@att.net
 K6OQK

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Re: [time-nuts] Surplus Places...

2010-03-31 Thread Scott Burris
CH closed briefly to move and is now open in Duarte:

http://www.candhsurplus.com/

At Apex, a friend tried to purchase a nose cone from a rocket, but they declined
to sell it to him because they were making too much money renting it out to 
movie studios.

Scott

On Mar 31, 2010, at 1:02 PM, J. Forster wrote:

 Apex was in Sun Valley. They were there in 1979 and had lots of aerospace
 telemetry stuff there. I bought an Omega receiver and carried it to Boston
 as baggage. Those were the days.
 
 Sadly CH is now gone. I don't know if Palley Supply is still in business.
 
 There was also Industrial Liquidators at the Holly Turnoff in San Carlos.
 
 -John
 
 =
 
 
 In the Southern, California - Los Angeles area, we have a place
 called Apex Electronics.  Some of the prices in the past have been
 outrageous, but now seem to becoming more reasonable.  Right now
 there seems to be a ton of NTSC TV stuffs coming in the doors.  I
 think you could spend days foraging around at Apex.
 
 Here's a link that really doesn't even begin to do it justice:
 
 http://www.apexelectronic.com/
 
 Burt, K6OQK
 
 Burt I. Weiner Associates
 Broadcast Technical Services
 Glendale, California  U.S.A.
 b...@att.net
 K6OQK
 
 
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Re: [time-nuts] Surplus Places...

2010-03-31 Thread J. Forster
Wow!!  Thanks,

-John





 CH closed briefly to move and is now open in Duarte:

 http://www.candhsurplus.com/

 At Apex, a friend tried to purchase a nose cone from a rocket, but they
 declined
 to sell it to him because they were making too much money renting it out
 to movie studios.

 Scott

 On Mar 31, 2010, at 1:02 PM, J. Forster wrote:

 Apex was in Sun Valley. They were there in 1979 and had lots of
 aerospace
 telemetry stuff there. I bought an Omega receiver and carried it to
 Boston
 as baggage. Those were the days.

 Sadly CH is now gone. I don't know if Palley Supply is still in
 business.

 There was also Industrial Liquidators at the Holly Turnoff in San
 Carlos.

 -John

 =


 In the Southern, California - Los Angeles area, we have a place
 called Apex Electronics.  Some of the prices in the past have been
 outrageous, but now seem to becoming more reasonable.  Right now
 there seems to be a ton of NTSC TV stuffs coming in the doors.  I
 think you could spend days foraging around at Apex.

 Here's a link that really doesn't even begin to do it justice:

 http://www.apexelectronic.com/

 Burt, K6OQK

 Burt I. Weiner Associates
 Broadcast Technical Services
 Glendale, California  U.S.A.
 b...@att.net
 K6OQK


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Re: [time-nuts] Surplus Places...

2010-03-31 Thread jimlux

Scott Burris wrote:

CH closed briefly to move and is now open in Duarte:

http://www.candhsurplus.com/

At Apex, a friend tried to purchase a nose cone from a rocket, but they declined
to sell it to him because they were making too much money renting it out to 
movie studios.

Scott




That is precisely the reason for outrageous prices at Apex.  If it makes 
 a good prop (spinning mag tape drives, panels with lots of switches 
and lights, etc.) then they can make hundreds of dollars a week in rental.




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Re: [time-nuts] Surplus Places...

2010-03-31 Thread Rex

jimlux wrote:

Scott Burris wrote:

CH closed briefly to move and is now open in Duarte:

http://www.candhsurplus.com/

At Apex, a friend tried to purchase a nose cone from a rocket, but 
they declined
to sell it to him because they were making too much money renting it 
out to movie studios.


Scott




That is precisely the reason for outrageous prices at Apex.  If it 
makes  a good prop (spinning mag tape drives, panels with lots of 
switches and lights, etc.) then they can make hundreds of dollars a 
week in rental.




Maybe, I don't hang out in LA land much.

I went somewhere once and am pretty sure it must have been Apex - had 
the same random back yard. I found a couple big-ass bearings, close to 3 
inch ID. I had some project in mind and they gave me a reasonable price, 
maybe $5 each, So, lots of stuff is over priced, but maybe if you browse 
a while, you may find some stuff that can be negotiated at a mutual 
advantage.


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Re: [time-nuts] Surplus Places...

2010-03-31 Thread d . seiter
Wow, kind of a cross between the old Halted and Alan Steel in Redwood City. I 
know where to go if I need doorknobs! 

Dave 
- Original Message - 
From: Burt I. Weiner b...@att.net 
To: time-nuts@febo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 1:24:47 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain 
Subject: [time-nuts] Surplus Places... 

In the Southern, California - Los Angeles area, we have a place 
called Apex Electronics. Some of the prices in the past have been 
outrageous, but now seem to becoming more reasonable. Right now 
there seems to be a ton of NTSC TV stuffs coming in the doors. I 
think you could spend days foraging around at Apex. 

Here's a link that really doesn't even begin to do it justice: 

http://www.apexelectronic.com/ 

Burt, K6OQK 

Burt I. Weiner Associates 
Broadcast Technical Services 
Glendale, California U.S.A. 
b...@att.net 
K6OQK 


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Re: [time-nuts] Surplus Places...

2010-03-31 Thread Don Latham
Well, there are more reasons for astounding prices. For example, Ebay was
a good place to get stuff, until it changed from a marketplace to a
virtual storefront. A bunch of buy it now's does not establish a
marketplace where prices can be determined. So the BIN's have prices that
seem outrageous.
Personally, I think some of the older instruments, although nice, are
becoming obsolete. See QEX for some examples. For $300-500 a universal
front end, called a PC, can serve a bunch of instruments, and do a lot of
other things as well. I've seen, but haven't built, soundcard driven
instruments such as oscilloscopes, impedance measurers (is that a word?)
and a lot more. Flexible software is easy to generate, and displays can
get as fancy as needed. Calibration and holding calibration seems the
biggest problem.
IMHO, older instruments built around microprocessors have digitally driven
parts such as attenuators, frequency sources,etc that might be adapted to
PC's through USB adapters. Anyone done that?

Just an idle thought, but is there a group somewhere in netspace where
this kind of info is collected?
Pardon the sort of mind fart...
Don Latham


jimlux
 Scott Burris wrote:
 CH closed briefly to move and is now open in Duarte:

 http://www.candhsurplus.com/

 At Apex, a friend tried to purchase a nose cone from a rocket, but they
 declined
 to sell it to him because they were making too much money renting it out
 to movie studios.

 Scott



 That is precisely the reason for outrageous prices at Apex.  If it makes
   a good prop (spinning mag tape drives, panels with lots of switches
 and lights, etc.) then they can make hundreds of dollars a week in rental.



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Re: [time-nuts] Surplus Places...

2010-03-31 Thread jimlux

Rex wrote:

jimlux wrote:

Scott Burris wrote:

CH closed briefly to move and is now open in Duarte:

http://www.candhsurplus.com/

At Apex, a friend tried to purchase a nose cone from a rocket, but 
they declined
to sell it to him because they were making too much money renting it 
out to movie studios.


Scott




That is precisely the reason for outrageous prices at Apex.  If it 
makes  a good prop (spinning mag tape drives, panels with lots of 
switches and lights, etc.) then they can make hundreds of dollars a 
week in rental.




Maybe, I don't hang out in LA land much.

I went somewhere once and am pretty sure it must have been Apex - had 
the same random back yard. I found a couple big-ass bearings, close to 3 
inch ID. I had some project in mind and they gave me a reasonable price, 
maybe $5 each, So, lots of stuff is over priced, but maybe if you browse 
a while, you may find some stuff that can be negotiated at a mutual 
advantage.




that's exactly it...no art director or set decorator is wandering 
through Apex saying I wish I could find some 3 bearings... they're 
wandering going I need 3 of those big tall panel things with the blinky 
lights, and the Apex guys, say, no problem.. we'll deliver them to the 
set tomorrow for $100/week each.


So your bearings are cheap. Rocket nose cones are not.

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