Re: [time-nuts] FCC Chair Talks Spectrum, Gets GPS Letter
There's also a few cars, trucks, emergency vehicles, hand-helds and timing receivers that he didn't bother to mention at all. I suspect most of those would be fixed by complete replacement. (If a full fix is even possible in all situations.) On 3/6/2012 7:37 PM, saidj...@aol.com wrote: I'm sorry, but Mr. Javad is on crack. A simple WAAS upgrade on a GENERAL AVIATION aircraft already costs about $8000 fully installed. This includes an antenna upgrade that I remember to be about $3000 installed for the antenna itself. $500 per plane to fix the issue? Yeah right. In what world does he live in? bye, Said In a message dated 3/6/2012 16:38:28 Pacific Standard Time, j...@cornell.edu writes: The cost of such retrofits is under $500 per aircraft. It would cost less than $20M to fix any existing issues within the industry and only take a few months to complete. Please also note that all existing GPS receivers are semi-obsolete and will soon need to be replaced anyway (with or without LightSquared) because current systems do not track the modernized signals of GPS, GLONASS and Galileo. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] FCC Chair Talks Spectrum, Gets GPS Letter
I'd accept if they replaced the whole worlds GPSes, it is a cheap option as they claim! I'd like the latest model of smart phone too when you are at it L2! Cheers Raj I'm sorry, but Mr. Javad is on crack. A simple WAAS upgrade on a GENERAL AVIATION aircraft already costs about $8000 fully installed. This includes an antenna upgrade that I remember to be about $3000 installed for the antenna itself. $500 per plane to fix the issue? Yeah right. In what world does he live in? bye, Said In a message dated 3/6/2012 16:38:28 Pacific Standard Time, j...@cornell.edu writes: The cost of such retrofits is under $500 per aircraft. It would cost less than $20M to fix any existing issues within the industry and only take a few months to complete. Please also note that all existing GPS receivers are semi-obsolete and will soon need to be replaced anyway (with or without LightSquared) because current systems do not track the modernized signals of GPS, GLONASS and Galileo. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
[time-nuts] military frequency standard pin out??
Hello Folks, I found in my collection a frequency standard that I acquired mil surplus at one time. The model number of 2N6625-078-4718 internet search yields nothing on this number. The unit is a common looking one , approx. 4 x 3 x 4 with an aluminum cover that comes off. The cover has the layout of the parts. The connector has 6 coax outputs into a D type connector. It appears 3 pins for power 1 is ground that easy to see but the others are 2) a red white and black that leads to the circuit board 3) and a brown white and black also leads to the circuit board. I would like to fire this up, but not burn it up. Any ideas? Thank you Paul A. Cianciolo W1VLF http://www.rescueelectronics.com/ Our business computer network is powered exclusively by solar and wind power. Converting Photons to Electrons for over 20 years ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] military frequency standard pin out??
The model number of 2N6625-078-4718 internet search yields nothing on this number. Remove the 2N from the gaggle and you'll have a standard number sequence that Google has some info for you. RP ..._._ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
[time-nuts] military frequency standard pin out??
Paul A. Cianciolo paulc at snet.net The cover has the layout of the parts. The connector has 6 coax outputs into a D type connector. + It sounds like the R-1051/URR receiver frequency standard. There is some info on repairing it here: http://www.jamminpower.com/PDF/Navships%200967-034-2000.pdf ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
[time-nuts] USB Interface, legacy Software
I have a software program, no longer supported, which requires two RS232 serial com port interfaces, one to communicate with a sensor (signal strength collection receiver) and the second to accept serial data from a GPS. The laptop computer I am using has only one RS232 Com port which I must use with the sensor due to incompatibility with USB to serial converters I have tried. This leaves the USB for the GPS input. I am assuming that the GPS string should be acceptable as I do nor believe the software needs to handshake with the GPS. I would like to use a Delorme USB type receiver on the USB port. Can anyone recommend a software add on that will make this type receiver appear as a standard RS232 Com port to my software? Thanks -- Joe Leikhim Leikhim and Associates Communications Consultants Oviedo, Florida www.Leikhim.com jleik...@leikhim.com 407-982-0446 Note to GMail Account users. Due to an abnormally high volume of spam originating from bogus GMail accounts, I have found it necessary to block certain GMail traffic. Please phone me if you believe your message was not received. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] FCC Chair Talks Spectrum, Gets GPS Letter
On 3/6/2012 10:37 PM, saidj...@aol.com wrote: I'm sorry, but Mr. Javad is on crack. Yeah right. In what world does he live in? The one in which he's head of the only company who offers GNSS receivers with ... LightSquared Inside. http://javad.com/jgnss/javad/news/pr20110921.html ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] FCC Chair Talks Spectrum, Gets GPS Letter
It's all very squalid!
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I'm sorry, but Mr. Javad is on crack.
Yeah right. In what world does he live in?
The one in which he's head of the only company who offers GNSS
receivers with ... LightSquared Inside.
http://javad.com/jgnss/javad/news/pr20110921.html
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Re: [time-nuts] USB Interface, legacy Software
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Joe Leikhim jleik...@leikhim.com wrote: I would like to use a Delorme USB type receiver on the USB port. Can anyone recommend a software add on that will make this type receiver appear as a standard RS232 Com port to my software? Unless Delorme makes a driver for your OS that makes their GPS look like it's a serial device you are going to have to use a serial GPS and a serial to USB cable. Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] USB Interface, legacy Software
Hi My guess is that your software isn't just looking for a serial port. It's also looking for specific strings back from the GPS. Depending on what you attach, it may or may not give you the strings you need. If you are doing timing, a USB interface will be a major headache. Most sensor = usb issues are a result of the sensor getting a supply voltage from the serial port. The USB serial chips often don't have enough power to do the trick. There are various outfits that sell multi port USB interfaces that allow you to attach a power dongle to them. Often these are the only thing that will get a setup like yours to work. Bob -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Joe Leikhim Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 11:49 AM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] USB Interface, legacy Software I have a software program, no longer supported, which requires two RS232 serial com port interfaces, one to communicate with a sensor (signal strength collection receiver) and the second to accept serial data from a GPS. The laptop computer I am using has only one RS232 Com port which I must use with the sensor due to incompatibility with USB to serial converters I have tried. This leaves the USB for the GPS input. I am assuming that the GPS string should be acceptable as I do nor believe the software needs to handshake with the GPS. I would like to use a Delorme USB type receiver on the USB port. Can anyone recommend a software add on that will make this type receiver appear as a standard RS232 Com port to my software? Thanks -- Joe Leikhim Leikhim and Associates Communications Consultants Oviedo, Florida www.Leikhim.com jleik...@leikhim.com 407-982-0446 Note to GMail Account users. Due to an abnormally high volume of spam originating from bogus GMail accounts, I have found it necessary to block certain GMail traffic. Please phone me if you believe your message was not received. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] FCC Chair Talks Spectrum, Gets GPS Letter
Hi
The annual sales of GPS devices are around $5B (yes with a B) a year. Let's
say that you only replace those sold over the last four years. He's only off
by about 1000X *assuming* the new ones are as cheap as the old ones...
Bob
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It's all very squalid!
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I'm sorry, but Mr. Javad is on crack.
Yeah right. In what world does he live in?
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Re: [time-nuts] FCC Chair Talks Spectrum, Gets GPS Letter
Rob wrote: Javad got into bed with Lightsquared and now things are not working as planned he is throwing his toys out of the pram. Javad was hoping to profit from making (and/or perhaps licensing the technology to make) retrofit filters. Some would have been paid for by LS (presumably at wholesale), but the vast majority would have been sold at retail to GPS users. Call it piggyback speculation (Javad speculating on LS's speculation on the possibility of putting cheap Mobile Satellite Service (MSS) spectrum to a much higher-valued use and reaping a windfall). I love that LS is suggesting that if it is not allowed to go forward with its terrestrial network it should either be reimbursed for its losses or be given other spectrum in exchange that it can use for the terrestrial network. (I.e., LS has the balls to suggest that taxpayers should guarantee its speculation. Have the past 5 years taught us nothing?) LS paid a fair price for MSS spectrum (which is relatively inexpensive because the market for MSS services has never developed). It can still operate an MSS network, or sell the spectrum to someone else who wants to operate an MSS network. It still has the full value of the MSS spectrum, which it acquired at MSS prices, and has lost nothing (except many millions in legal fees fighting for authorization to build its terrestrial network). Best regards, Charles ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] FCC Chair Talks Spectrum, Gets GPS Letter
What a tangled web we weave. . . Don Charles P. Steinmetz Rob wrote: Javad got into bed with Lightsquared and now things are not working as planned he is throwing his toys out of the pram. Javad was hoping to profit from making (and/or perhaps licensing the technology to make) retrofit filters. Some would have been paid for by LS (presumably at wholesale), but the vast majority would have been sold at retail to GPS users. Call it piggyback speculation (Javad speculating on LS's speculation on the possibility of putting cheap Mobile Satellite Service (MSS) spectrum to a much higher-valued use and reaping a windfall). I love that LS is suggesting that if it is not allowed to go forward with its terrestrial network it should either be reimbursed for its losses or be given other spectrum in exchange that it can use for the terrestrial network. (I.e., LS has the balls to suggest that taxpayers should guarantee its speculation. Have the past 5 years taught us nothing?) LS paid a fair price for MSS spectrum (which is relatively inexpensive because the market for MSS services has never developed). It can still operate an MSS network, or sell the spectrum to someone else who wants to operate an MSS network. It still has the full value of the MSS spectrum, which it acquired at MSS prices, and has lost nothing (except many millions in legal fees fighting for authorization to build its terrestrial network). Best regards, Charles ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. -- Neither the voice of authority nor the weight of reason and argument are as significant as experiment, for thence comes quiet to the mind. R. Bacon If you don't know what it is, don't poke it. Ghost in the Shell Dr. Don Latham AJ7LL Six Mile Systems LLP 17850 Six Mile Road POB 134 Huson, MT, 59846 VOX 406-626-4304 www.lightningforensics.com www.sixmilesystems.com ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] military frequency standard pin out??
Ogg: [time-nuts] military frequency standard pin out?? Paul A. Cianciolo paulc at snet.net The cover has the layout of the parts. The connector has 6 coax outputs into a D type connector. + It sounds like the R-1051/URR receiver frequency standard. There is some info on repairing it here: http://www.jamminpower.com/PDF/Navships%200967-034-2000.pdf Yes, it is. For a picture look here: http://www.jamminpower.com/main/r1051.html Should you be unable to download the manuals, I could send you at least the schematic diagram and component location of the Freq. Std. I have one of these oscillators, and years ago I used 18VDC for testing. It is rated at 10E-8 per day, and has 5MHz, 1MHz and 10 MHz plus 2x500KHz outputs. As you may have seen, it was used on a radio. Antonio I8IOV ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] military frequency standard pin out??
Hi The gotcha here is that frequency standard is a relative term. For what ever reason, these were a high failure item in the R-1051. People talk about seeing large piles of them at repair depots. The replacement contracts often went to outfits that had little experience in the OCXO business. Even a good part may not be what a time nut would call a frequency standard. Bob -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Dent Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 11:35 AM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] military frequency standard pin out?? Paul A. Cianciolo paulc at snet.net The cover has the layout of the parts. The connector has 6 coax outputs into a D type connector. + It sounds like the R-1051/URR receiver frequency standard. There is some info on repairing it here: http://www.jamminpower.com/PDF/Navships%200967-034-2000.pdf ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] military frequency standard pin out??
Good Morning Paul, Sounds like a very old military unit. Probably 60's vintage. before the 13 digit NSNs. national stock number (NSN) is probably 6625-078-4718. I do not recall what the 2N could mean. a modern NSN would look like 6625-00-078-4718 or 6625-01-078-4718 Stan, W1LE on Cape Cod On 3/7/2012 10:45 AM, Paul A. Cianciolo wrote: Hello Folks, I found in my collection a frequency standard that I acquired mil surplus at one time. The model number of 2N6625-078-4718 internet search yields nothing on this number. The unit is a common looking one , approx. 4 x 3 x 4 with an aluminum cover that comes off. The cover has the layout of the parts. The connector has 6 coax outputs into a D type connector. It appears 3 pins for power 1 is ground that easy to see but the others are 2) a red white and black that leads to the circuit board 3) and a brown white and black also leads to the circuit board. I would like to fire this up, but not burn it up. Any ideas? Thank you Paul A. Cianciolo W1VLF http://www.rescueelectronics.com/ Our business computer network is powered exclusively by solar and wind power. Converting Photons to Electrons for over 20 years ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] military frequency standard pin out??
6625-078-4718 - * Frequency Standard Module from R-1051* and RT-618* radios; usable as replacement or adapt to other need where standard is required. Crystal oven with 5 MHz crystal provides 5 MHz sine wave output (approx 1.8V) plus possible non-sine outputs dual 500KHz, 1 10 MHz. Designed stability: 1 part in 10 / day. Requires 18-24VDC input. 4.4x3x4.5, 2 lbs sh. Used crystal only is checked, other output may need repair, with schematic, Found on Fair Radio's site .. -pete On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 7:45 AM, Paul A. Cianciolo pa...@snet.net wrote: Hello Folks, I found in my collection a frequency standard that I acquired mil surplus at one time. The model number of 2N6625-078-4718 internet search yields nothing on this number. The unit is a common looking one , approx. 4 x 3 x 4 with an aluminum cover that comes off. The cover has the layout of the parts. The connector has 6 coax outputs into a D type connector. It appears 3 pins for power 1 is ground that easy to see but the others are 2) a red white and black that leads to the circuit board 3) and a brown white and black also leads to the circuit board. I would like to fire this up, but not burn it up. Any ideas? Thank you Paul A. Cianciolo W1VLF http://www.rescueelectronics.com/ Our business computer network is powered exclusively by solar and wind power. Converting Photons to Electrons for over 20 years ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] FCC Chair Talks Spectrum, Gets GPS Letter
Sorry for my language, I was quite upset when I read his letter. If it really was trivial and very low cost to upgrade GPS receivers, then he should not worry too much about loosing much revenue. This sounds more like he made major investments in either Lightsquared itself, or into designing and qualifying compatible receivers, and hoping for a major payday which is not coming. There should be other solutions for LS such as allocating to a different sp ectrum etc to not lose a $14 billon investment. Also his claims that GPS receivers will soon be obsolete anyway's are clearly not true of course. This reminds me about the futile episode of Edison electrocuting Elephants to prove his DC power grid to be superior to AC... bye, Said In a message dated 3/7/2012 09:03:10 Pacific Standard Time, robkimber...@btinternet.com writes: It's all very squalid! Sent from Samsung Mobile Original message Subject: Re: [time-nuts] FCC Chair Talks Spectrum, Gets GPS Letter From: Mike S To: time-nuts@febo.com CC: On 3/6/2012 10:37 PM, saidj...@aol.com wrote: I'm sorry, but Mr. Javad is on crack. Yeah right. In what world does he live in? The one in which he's head of the only company who offers GNSS receivers with ... LightSquared Inside. http://javad.com/jgnss/javad/news/pr20110921.html ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] military frequency standard pin out??
Hi Bob, Yes.. that is what I am trying to find out. But I dont want to chance it till I know for sure what the power requirements are. Thanks for the heads up though, I did not realize the bad rep these had. Paul A. Cianciolo W1VLF http://www.rescueelectronics.com/ Our business computer network is powered exclusively by solar and wind power. Converting Photons to Electrons for over 20 years -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Bob Camp Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 12:51 PM To: 'Arthur Dent'; 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Subject: Re: [time-nuts] military frequency standard pin out?? Hi The gotcha here is that frequency standard is a relative term. For what ever reason, these were a high failure item in the R-1051. People talk about seeing large piles of them at repair depots. The replacement contracts often went to outfits that had little experience in the OCXO business. Even a good part may not be what a time nut would call a frequency standard. Bob -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Dent Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 11:35 AM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] military frequency standard pin out?? Paul A. Cianciolo paulc at snet.net The cover has the layout of the parts. The connector has 6 coax outputs into a D type connector. + It sounds like the R-1051/URR receiver frequency standard. There is some info on repairing it here: http://www.jamminpower.com/PDF/Navships%200967-034-2000.pdf ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] military frequency standard pin out??
I used to rebuild these units many years ago and they were quite a good oscillator - these units would be good for a few parts in 10-9 and 10-8. 73, Bill, WA2DVU Paul A. Cianciolo paulc at snet.net The cover has the layout of the parts. The connector has 6 coax outputs into a D type connector. + It sounds like the R-1051/URR receiver frequency standard. There is some info on repairing it here: http://www.jamminpower.com/PDF/Navships%200967-034-2000.pdf Yes, it is. For a picture look here: http://www.jamminpower.com/main/r1051.html Should you be unable to download the manuals, I could send you at least the schematic diagram and component location of the Freq. Std. I have one of these oscillators, and years ago I used 18VDC for testing. It is rated at 10E-8 per day, and has 5MHz, 1MHz and 10 MHz plus 2x500KHz outputs. As you may have seen, it was used on a radio. Antonio I8IOV ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] military frequency standard pin out??
They were dogs though - I worked on mine for repairing 1051 rx - seemed failure rate was more than 50 % - took 2 or three to make a good unit! But when you made one work they were quite accurate considering their age. 73, Bill, WA2DVU Hi Bob, Yes.. that is what I am trying to find out. But I don't want to chance it till I know for sure what the power requirements are. Thanks for the heads up though, I did not realize the bad rep these had. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] FCC Chair Talks Spectrum, Gets GPS Letter
On 03/07/2012 07:22 PM, saidj...@aol.com wrote: Sorry for my language, I was quite upset when I read his letter. If it really was trivial and very low cost to upgrade GPS receivers, then he should not worry too much about loosing much revenue. This sounds more like he made major investments in either Lightsquared itself, or into designing and qualifying compatible receivers, and hoping for a major payday which is not coming. There should be other solutions for LS such as allocating to a different sp ectrum etc to not lose a $14 billon investment. Also his claims that GPS receivers will soon be obsolete anyway's are clearly not true of course. This reminds me about the futile episode of Edison electrocuting Elephants to prove his DC power grid to be superior to AC... I think it is interesting that he goes out to such length to alienate himself from the rest of the industry, but then he acts like a bad looser for loosing out on business he was speculating on getting money from. Then again, if he would supply us all with full-capable receivers at the cost of L2, then maybe it would just be worth it. Ah well. Should we stop kicking this dog, it is already lying there half-dead anyway. Cheers, Magnus ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] FCC Chair Talks Spectrum, Gets GPS Letter
I think it is amusing, and sad at the same time, that Javad claims that his position is the one where technology is losing out to politics. Maybe he thinks the bulk of the population and the FCC really are that stupid and gullible? Did I really just defend those two groups? Tom Holmes, N8ZM Tipp City, OH EM79 -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of robkimber...@btinternet.com Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 12:03 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] FCC Chair Talks Spectrum, Gets GPS Letter It's all very squalid! Sent from Samsung Mobile Original message Subject: Re: [time-nuts] FCC Chair Talks Spectrum, Gets GPS Letter From: Mike S To: time-nuts@febo.com CC: On 3/6/2012 10:37 PM, saidj...@aol.com wrote: I'm sorry, but Mr. Javad is on crack. Yeah right. In what world does he live in? The one in which he's head of the only company who offers GNSS receivers with ... LightSquared Inside. http://javad.com/jgnss/javad/news/pr20110921.html ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
[time-nuts] Austron 2100 Manual Available
Following recent discussions on the partial resurgence, for now anyway, of Loran-C in the US I have uploaded the Austron 2100 Loran-C Timing receiver manual to Rapidshare, with many thanks to Dan Rae who provided the printed original. As with my previous manual uploads this is created from lossless TIFs, in this instance 300dpi for text and 400dpi for schematics, and there are two versions. The raw PDF file is large, just over 91 MB, but there is also an optimised version at approx 9MB. The optimised file seems perfectly adequate to me but I offer both anyway, your choice. Full size. _https://rapidshare.com/files/316522356/Austron_2100_Timing_Receiver.pdf_ (https://rapidshare.com/files/316522356/Austron_2100_Timing_Receiver.pdf) Optimised _https://rapidshare.com/files/303627596/Austron_2100_Timing_Receiver_Opt.pdf _ (https://rapidshare.com/files/303627596/Austron_2100_Timing_Receiver_Opt.pdf) Feel free to upload them anywhere you choose but please don't complain to me if Rapidshare is busy, just be patient and try later. Regards Nigel GM8PZR ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Austron 2100 Manual Available
Which manual? 2100F? -John Following recent discussions on the partial resurgence, for now anyway, of Loran-C in the US I have uploaded the Austron 2100 Loran-C Timing receiver manual to Rapidshare, with many thanks to Dan Rae who provided the printed original. As with my previous manual uploads this is created from lossless TIFs, in this instance 300dpi for text and 400dpi for schematics, and there are two versions. The raw PDF file is large, just over 91 MB, but there is also an optimised version at approx 9MB. The optimised file seems perfectly adequate to me but I offer both anyway, your choice. Full size. _https://rapidshare.com/files/316522356/Austron_2100_Timing_Receiver.pdf_ (https://rapidshare.com/files/316522356/Austron_2100_Timing_Receiver.pdf) Optimised _https://rapidshare.com/files/303627596/Austron_2100_Timing_Receiver_Opt.pdf _ (https://rapidshare.com/files/303627596/Austron_2100_Timing_Receiver_Opt.pdf) Feel free to upload them anywhere you choose but please don't complain to me if Rapidshare is busy, just be patient and try later. Regards Nigel GM8PZR ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Austron 2100 Manual Available
Suck it and see:-) In a message dated 07/03/2012 23:05:52 GMT Standard Time, j...@quikus.com writes: Which manual? 2100F? -John Following recent discussions on the partial resurgence, for now anyway, of Loran-C in the US I have uploaded the Austron 2100 Loran-C Timing receiver manual to Rapidshare, with many thanks to Dan Rae who provided the printed original. As with my previous manual uploads this is created from lossless TIFs, in this instance 300dpi for text and 400dpi for schematics, and there are two versions. The raw PDF file is large, just over 91 MB, but there is also an optimised version at approx 9MB. The optimised file seems perfectly adequate to me but I offer both anyway, your choice. Full size. _https://rapidshare.com/files/316522356/Austron_2100_Timing_Receiver.pdf_ (https://rapidshare.com/files/316522356/Austron_2100_Timing_Receiver.pdf) Optimised _https://rapidshare.com/files/303627596/Austron_2100_Timing_Receiver_Opt.pdf _ (https://rapidshare.com/files/303627596/Austron_2100_Timing_Receiver_Opt.pdf) Feel free to upload them anywhere you choose but please don't complain to me if Rapidshare is busy, just be patient and try later. Regards Nigel GM8PZR ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
[time-nuts] MicroLogic ML200 Loran-C
I picked up a MicroLogic ML200 Loran-C a long time ago, and after playing a bit with it, shelved it, as not really usable for time-nuts purposes. Now, during the yearly cleaning of my lab, I dragged it out and powered it up, and it still seems to work, sometimes. I opened it up, and discovered that it is based on an Intel 4004 microcomputer and after resocketing some ICs it seems to work better. If anybody has any information/manuals etc. for this beast, I'd love to get hold of a copy. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] MicroLogic ML200 Loran-C
Found very little googling for this ML200, found only a line in the 1977 Radionavigation Journal... On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 12:36 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp p...@phk.freebsd.dkwrote: I picked up a MicroLogic ML200 Loran-C a long time ago, and after playing a bit with it, shelved it, as not really usable for time-nuts purposes. Now, during the yearly cleaning of my lab, I dragged it out and powered it up, and it still seems to work, sometimes. I opened it up, and discovered that it is based on an Intel 4004 microcomputer and after resocketing some ICs it seems to work better. If anybody has any information/manuals etc. for this beast, I'd love to get hold of a copy. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] MicroLogic ML200 Loran-C
In message cal8xpmoo_arncqvmt65xko5ai7xz2xd1bdxfxm1dnzuruqr...@mail.gmail.com , Azelio Boriani writes: Found very little googling for this ML200, found only a line in the 1977 Radionavigation Journal... Yes, found that too. There's also a report where it was used in van measuring loran-C on highways, but neither contains any relevant details. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] USB Interface, legacy Software
I've been using Delmore GPS receivers for several years. They have a driver (http://support.delorme.com/questions.php?questionid=24 http://support.delorme.com/questions.php?questionid=24) for Windows that will install it as a standard serial port sending NMEA messages. The older serial Earthmates can be powered by applying 5 volts to pin 9 (return to pin 5). As long as the software communicates thru the standard Com drivers, Serial to USB converters should work OK. I've been able to tap the USB 5 volts and power the serial device (as above). Just look for a converter that is in a hard plastic case, not molded. If found the Gold-X adapters are pretty consistent working with legacy software. Mike Blazer San Antonio, TX On 3/7/2012 10:48 AM, Joe Leikhim wrote: I have a software program, no longer supported, which requires two RS232 serial com port interfaces, one to communicate with a sensor (signal strength collection receiver) and the second to accept serial data from a GPS. The laptop computer I am using has only one RS232 Com port which I must use with the sensor due to incompatibility with USB to serial converters I have tried. This leaves the USB for the GPS input. I am assuming that the GPS string should be acceptable as I do nor believe the software needs to handshake with the GPS. I would like to use a Delorme USB type receiver on the USB port. Can anyone recommend a software add on that will make this type receiver appear as a standard RS232 Com port to my software? Thanks ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] FCC Chair Talks Spectrum, Gets GPS Letter
I read a white paper Javad put out touting their new (and cheaper to build) front end filter. Of course it is patented. So guess where everyone has to go should LS get the green light. Mike On 3/7/2012 12:22 PM, saidj...@aol.com wrote: Sorry for my language, I was quite upset when I read his letter. If it really was trivial and very low cost to upgrade GPS receivers, then he should not worry too much about loosing much revenue. This sounds more like he made major investments in either Lightsquared itself, or into designing and qualifying compatible receivers, and hoping for a major payday which is not coming. There should be other solutions for LS such as allocating to a different sp ectrum etc to not lose a $14 billon investment. Also his claims that GPS receivers will soon be obsolete anyway's are clearly not true of course. This reminds me about the futile episode of Edison electrocuting Elephants to prove his DC power grid to be superior to AC... bye, Said In a message dated 3/7/2012 09:03:10 Pacific Standard Time, robkimber...@btinternet.com writes: It's all very squalid! Sent from Samsung Mobile Original message Subject: Re: [time-nuts] FCC Chair Talks Spectrum, Gets GPS Letter From: Mike S To: time-nuts@febo.com CC: On 3/6/2012 10:37 PM, saidj...@aol.com wrote: I'm sorry, but Mr. Javad is on crack. Yeah right. In what world does he live in? The one in which he's head of the only company who offers GNSS receivers with ... LightSquared Inside. http://javad.com/jgnss/javad/news/pr20110921.html ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] FCC Chair Talks Spectrum, Gets GPS Letter
Filtering is basically what is done by those skilled in the art. I think it would be hard to defend such a patent. Then again, Apple has managed to patent and defend in court the ipad color scheme. -Original Message- From: Michael Blazer mbla...@satx.rr.com Sender: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2012 18:19:57 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurementtime-nuts@febo.com Reply-To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] FCC Chair Talks Spectrum, Gets GPS Letter I read a white paper Javad put out touting their new (and cheaper to build) front end filter. Of course it is patented. So guess where everyone has to go should LS get the green light. Mike On 3/7/2012 12:22 PM, saidj...@aol.com wrote: Sorry for my language, I was quite upset when I read his letter. If it really was trivial and very low cost to upgrade GPS receivers, then he should not worry too much about loosing much revenue. This sounds more like he made major investments in either Lightsquared itself, or into designing and qualifying compatible receivers, and hoping for a major payday which is not coming. There should be other solutions for LS such as allocating to a different sp ectrum etc to not lose a $14 billon investment. Also his claims that GPS receivers will soon be obsolete anyway's are clearly not true of course. This reminds me about the futile episode of Edison electrocuting Elephants to prove his DC power grid to be superior to AC... bye, Said In a message dated 3/7/2012 09:03:10 Pacific Standard Time, robkimber...@btinternet.com writes: It's all very squalid! Sent from Samsung Mobile Original message Subject: Re: [time-nuts] FCC Chair Talks Spectrum, Gets GPS Letter From: Mike S To: time-nuts@febo.com CC: On 3/6/2012 10:37 PM, saidj...@aol.com wrote: I'm sorry, but Mr. Javad is on crack. Yeah right. In what world does he live in? The one in which he's head of the only company who offers GNSS receivers with ... LightSquared Inside. http://javad.com/jgnss/javad/news/pr20110921.html ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] MicroLogic ML200 Loran-C
Last seen, the 4004 chips were much in demand (perhaps by gamers) -John In message cal8xpmoo_arncqvmt65xko5ai7xz2xd1bdxfxm1dnzuruqr...@mail.gmail.com , Azelio Boriani writes: Found very little googling for this ML200, found only a line in the 1977 Radionavigation Journal... Yes, found that too. There's also a report where it was used in van measuring loran-C on highways, but neither contains any relevant details. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] FCC Chair Talks Spectrum, Gets GPS Letter
Personally, I would be opposed to LS even if they *did* offer to replace every GPS in the world at their cost. The real issue here is more fundamental - if you are going to allow people to operate high power terrestrial based transmitters in a designated satellite downlink band then what is the point of having spectrum planning at all? I suppose you can't really blame LS for trying it on - the real fault lies with the FCC for not shooting the idea down completely when it was first suggested. Regards, Pete On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Raj vu2...@gmail.com wrote: I'd accept if they replaced the whole worlds GPSes, it is a cheap option as they claim! I'd like the latest model of smart phone too when you are at it L2! Cheers Raj ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] FCC Chair Talks Spectrum, Gets GPS Letter
Pete wrote: I suppose you can't really blame LS for trying it on - the real fault lies with the FCC for not shooting the idea down completely when it was first suggested. The regulatory notion is ancillary terrestrial component (ATC). Its original purpose (conceived in the early '90s) was to allow satellite operators to fill in dead zones. Satellite radio (SDARS) operators began deploying ATC in the late '90s and early '00s. The SDARS licensees seriously abused the privilege (causing extensive interference to users of the adjacent WCS spectrum), and it has been downhill ever since. I thought it was a bad idea in 1992, and subsequent experience has only strengthened my view. As I have said before, the current FCC has the (I believe) unfounded notions (1) that an exploding need for additional mobile broadband spectrum will continue unabated for at least a decade (based on the figures for the first couple of years of data, which are inevitably way higher than ultimate demand for any new service), and (2) that providing more broadband spectrum is critical to the US pulling out of the recession. Accepting these (I believe) mistaken premises, the FCC is in an absolute panic to increase the supply of mobile broadband spectrum by 500 MHz nationwide. And good decisions are rarely made by bureaucrats in a panic. The decision to encourage terrestrial use of the MSS spectrum is just one of many examples. As a reality check on my skepticism regarding the FCC's conclusions, or at least the practicability of fulfilling them: If you accept the FCC's demand projections for mobile broadband spectrum, it is clear that even 500 MHz of additional spectrum would not come anywhere near fulfilling the rising demand over the next 5 years. That would take more like 3-10 GHz, depending on other assumptions. But there is simply not that much spectrum physically suitable for mobile broadband use, even if you allocate it all to wireless carriers -- frequencies below about 500 MHz require antennas too large for practical handsets, and frequencies much above 2 GHz do not carry far enough in open country, or penetrate sufficiently into buildings, natural canyons, or urban canyons, to work acceptably. All that said, LS's engineers should have (and may have) foreseen the devastating effect the use of ATC on their particular L-band spectrum would have on GPS as we know it, and LS management should have known that their plan would ultimately fail. But the prospect of making a windfall of many billions of dollars apparently blinded them (or, in their minds, justified the risk). But in the end, LS took the risk and LS should bear its losses and quit trying to stick US taxpayers with it. They paid fair prices for MSS spectrum that can still be used for its intended purpose, or sold. No loss, no foul. Best regards, Charles ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] FCC Chair Talks Spectrum, Gets GPS Letter
On 3/7/12 10:22 AM, saidj...@aol.com wrote: Sorry for my language, I was quite upset when I read his letter. If it really was trivial and very low cost to upgrade GPS receivers, then he should not worry too much about loosing much revenue. This sounds more like he made major investments in either Lightsquared itself, or into designing and qualifying compatible receivers, and hoping for a major payday which is not coming. There should be other solutions for LS such as allocating to a different sp ectrum etc to not lose a $14 billon investment. I don't think $14B has actually been spent (as in actually paid to a manufacturer of parts and/or workers).. sure there's lots of paper investments back and forth, but not much cash has changed hands. We were talking about this at lunch today.. SKyTerra cost something like 1/2B. They launched a next gen sat recently (maybe 1B).. I find it hard to believe they've spent close to 1B on their test ground stations and though they clearly have armies of lawyers and accountants, 1B buys a lot of legal fees. They may well have made commitments and orders for multiple B of future purchases, and there will be termination liability if they cancel orders, etc. But again, it's not like they have 1B in their vaunted dual mode handset chips sitting in inventory at Qualcomm.. Also his claims that GPS receivers will soon be obsolete anyway's are clearly not true of course. This reminds me about the futile episode of Edison electrocuting Elephants to prove his DC power grid to be superior to AC... Those states that use electrocution *do* use AC in the electric chair, though... Granted we don't refer to westinghousing the offender as Edison advocated, though. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Loran in the US
Multipath propagation issues? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multipath_propagation We can certainly throw computational power against that wall but I think that this would be an issue for TV stations. AM should be better DaveH -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Chris Albertson Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 9:27 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Loran in the US The best and by far lowest cost solution is to pay TV stations and maybe AM broadcast stations to add a timing pulse a few times per second. No transmitters to build. The receivers would be more complete but that is OK in 2012. In the old days it was to expensive to put a complex computer inside a radio but now that is routine.So I can imagine a receivers that can listen to 20 or 30 broadcast stations, look of the latitude and longitude of each one and compute a best fit to the delays. Actually that is how GPS works but only in L1 Traditionally the main problem with using comercail radios for navigation has been then they don't issue a station ID frequenty enough so you have to listen for a long time to know what station you've tuned. But radio with a computer inside would know the station by it's frequency and the approx. location of the receiver. On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Charles P. Steinmetz charles_steinm...@lavabit.com wrote: Antonio wrote: Now, that the Loran C ressurection seems to be probable I suspect that it is not yet anywhere near probable -- more likely there is now some remote possibility of a ressurection if many difficult preconditions (including Congressional action) are all met. Best regards, Charles ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Austron 2100 Manual Available
Following recent discussions on the partial resurgence, for now anyway, of Loran-C in the US I have uploaded the Austron 2100 Loran-C Timing receiver manual to Rapidshare, with many thanks to Dan Rae who provided the printed original. [] Regards Nigel GM8PZR My thanks to Dan and Nigel for providing this information, and for taking the time to do the work. David GM8ARV -- SatSignal software - quality software written to your requirements Web: http://www.satsignal.eu Email: david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] FCC Chair Talks Spectrum, Gets GPS Letter
mbla...@satx.rr.com said: I read a white paper Javad put out touting their new (and cheaper to build) front end filter. Of course it is patented. So guess where everyone has to go should LS get the green light. Was that filter included as part of the recent round of testing? Did it work? I don't remember seeing any grand press releases along the lines of just use our filter. -- These are my opinions, not necessarily my employer's. I hate spam. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Loran in the US
Has anybody asked them how good timefreq they're trying to deliver ? I would assume that they are aiming for a backup for GPS in telecom-GPSDO context. If so, frequency stability is priority number one and time is probably just better than 100msec or so -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] MicroLogic ML200 Loran-C
In message 2561.12.6.201.116.1331169308.squir...@popaccts.quikus.com, J. For ster writes: Last seen, the 4004 chips were much in demand (perhaps by gamers) And chip-collectors But they're not leaving that receiver as long as there is smoke in them. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
