Re: [time-nuts] HP3336B S/N Question

2014-07-20 Thread W4wj
TNX Chuck!!
 
 
73
Don
W4WJ
 
 
In a message dated 7/11/2014 6:52:30 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
cfhar...@erols.com writes:

Are you  sure?

According to my 1982-1986 catalogs, the combination
of a  HP3586A/B, HP85 and an optional HP3336A/B is
called a HP3046A/B.

In  1980 there was a HP3040A which was a network
analyzer that used the  HP3330A/B synthesizer and the
HP3570A/B selective level meter... with no  computer.

Perhaps the HP3040L was the same thing but with  a
HP3336A/B instead?  I'm missing the 1981 catalog
where it may  have appeared.

-Chuck Harris

Flemming Larsen wrote:

>  The HP 3040L was a combination of the HP3586x Selective Level Voltmeter 
and  the
> HP3336x Tracking Signal Generator.
>
> It came with  interconnecting cables and software and a programming 
manual for the
>  HP-Basic software.
>
> WECO connectors and adapters are available  from: www.milestek.com
>
> --  FL
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Re: [time-nuts] WTB WECO Adapter

2014-07-10 Thread W4wj
TNX AGN Chuck!!
 
 
73
Don
W4WJ
 
 
 
In a message dated 7/10/2014 6:15:44 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
cfhar...@erols.com writes:

Err,  that is TEI-14949 AD1W

The "4" got eaten somehow.

-Chuck  Harris

w...@aol.com wrote:
> TNX for that information  Chuck!!
>
> 73
> Don
>  W4WJ
>
>
>
> In a message dated 7/10/2014 5:29:28 P.M.  Central Daylight Time,
> cfhar...@erols.com writes:
>
>  Be  warned, that Trompeter makes at least two varieties.
> The one  you want has  the thicker center pin that extends
> to within 1/8  inch of the end of the  shield.  The incorrect
> connector has  a thinner center pin that only  extends to
> about 1/4 inch of the  end of the shield.
>
> The family  number of both the right  and the wrong connector
> is the same:  TEI-14949
>
>  The part that specifies the pin is AD1 for the wrong  connector,
>  and AD1W for the right connector...
>
> So the full part   number of the connector you desire is:
>
> TEI-1949  AD1W
>
> These are  Western Electric (eg. telco) connectors,  not the
> more common video patch  panel  connectors.
>
> -Chuck  Harris
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[time-nuts] WECO Adapter/s located!! ;-)

2014-07-10 Thread W4wj
Hello again...
 
Late this afternoon I decided to go looking for the  WECO/BNC
adapter that I had previously used.
 
The last place I looked was where I found the adapters.   Yes, plural!!
I had bought a half dozen of them about 10 years ago!!   ;-)
 
TNX to everyone for their suggestions regarding the  WECO!!
 
 
73
Don
W4WJ
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Re: [time-nuts] WTB WECO Adapter

2014-07-10 Thread W4wj
TNX for that information Chuck!!
 
73
Don
W4WJ
 
 
 
In a message dated 7/10/2014 5:29:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
cfhar...@erols.com writes:

Be  warned, that Trompeter makes at least two varieties.
The one you want has  the thicker center pin that extends
to within 1/8 inch of the end of the  shield.  The incorrect
connector has a thinner center pin that only  extends to
about 1/4 inch of the end of the shield.

The family  number of both the right and the wrong connector
is the same:  TEI-14949

The part that specifies the pin is AD1 for the wrong  connector,
and AD1W for the right connector...

So the full part  number of the connector you desire is:

TEI-1949 AD1W

These are  Western Electric (eg. telco) connectors, not the
more common video patch  panel connectors.

-Chuck Harris

OBTW, if you have any of the  cable mounted WECO connectors,
it is very easy to screw a standard chassis  mount BNC connector
where the cable screws in, and make your own  adapter.

w...@aol.com wrote:
> Stan...
>
> I'll check  Trompeter too...
>
> TNX
>
>
> 73
>  Don
> W4WJ
>
>
>
> In a message dated 7/10/2014  12:35:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> stanw...@verizon.net  writes:
>
> Consider  the Trompeter series of adapters.   Stan,  W1LE
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Re: [time-nuts] WTB WECO Adapter

2014-07-10 Thread W4wj
Stan...
 
I'll check Trompeter too...
 
TNX
 
 
73
Don
W4WJ
 
 
 
In a message dated 7/10/2014 12:35:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
stanw...@verizon.net writes:

Consider  the Trompeter series of adapters.Stan, W1LE

On 10-Jul-14  9:02 AM, w...@aol.com wrote:
>   
> Hello  all...
>   
> I can't find my WECO adapter for my  HP3336B.  It got  lost
> in the move a while back.   ;-(
>   
> Am in need of a WECO to BNC adapter,   WECO  439A/440A
>   
> Anybody have one that they  would be willing to  sell?
>   
>  TIA...
>   
>   
> 73
>  Don
> W4WJ
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Re: [time-nuts] HP3336B S/N Question

2014-07-10 Thread W4wj
Hi Stan...
 
Funny thing about the labels...
 
The 2514 label is the style that you would expect 
on a piece of HP gear.  Shows the AC input  setting
and other info.
 
Both the 2127 and the 3040L System labels are narrow  metallic
labels, with the HP name s/n info and nothing  more.
 
So I don't know what to think.
 
But your idea is an interesting one!!
 
I need to find my adapter...  Got a bunch of them years  ago...  ;-)
 
TNX Stan
 
 
73
Don
W4WJ
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 7/10/2014 12:28:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
stanw...@verizon.net writes:

Hello  Don,  I suspect:

Original sticker 2127 early '80s  manufacture
later sticker 2514, remanufactured or modified to special  customer 
specs, mid 80's
3040L is the custom system the device was used  in.

I like this synthesizer, either get the WECO adapter to a  BNC(female)
or just add a female BNC on the blank spot on the 75 ohm output  front 
panel.

Stan, W1LECape Cod


On 10-Jul-14  2:26 AM, w...@aol.com wrote:
> So...  My HP3336B has TWO HP S/N  plates...
>   
> The original plate:   2514A0
>   
> and a secondary HP sticker with:  2127A00xxx
>   
> Also there is another HP sticker with:  3040L  SYSTEM
>   
> Anybody have any clues on  this??
>   
> TNX
>   
>  73
> Don
> W4WJ
>   
>   
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Re: [time-nuts] WTB WECO Adapter

2014-07-10 Thread W4wj
The BNC conversion had crossed my mind.
 
I have adapters here somewhere...  Just have to locate  the somewhere!!
 
TNX
 
 
73
Don
W4WJ
 
 
In a message dated 7/10/2014 8:38:29 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
c...@omen.com writes:

I bought  a WECO adapter when I got my 3586B.
Turns out there at least two WECO  connectors and I got one that didn't fit.

So I replaced the 3856B input  connector with a BNC jack.
Problem solved.

On 07/10/2014 06:02 AM,  w...@aol.com wrote:
>   
> Hello  all...
>   
> I can't find my WECO adapter for my  HP3336B.  It got  lost
> in the move a while back.   ;-(
>   
> Am in need of a WECO to BNC adapter,   WECO  439A/440A
>   
> Anybody have one that they  would be willing to  sell?
>   
>  TIA...
>   
>   
> 73
>  Don
> W4WJ
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[time-nuts] WTB WECO Adapter

2014-07-10 Thread W4wj
 
Hello all...
 
I can't find my WECO adapter for my HP3336B.  It got  lost
in the move a while back.  ;-(
 
Am in need of a WECO to BNC adapter,  WECO  439A/440A
 
Anybody have one that they would be willing to  sell?
 
TIA...
 
 
73
Don
W4WJ
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[time-nuts] HP3336B S/N Question

2014-07-09 Thread W4wj
So...  My HP3336B has TWO HP S/N plates...
 
The original plate:  2514A0
 
and a secondary HP sticker with: 2127A00xxx
 
Also there is another HP sticker with: 3040L  SYSTEM
 
Anybody have any clues on this??
 
TNX
 
73
Don
W4WJ
 
 
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Re: [time-nuts] US New Year countdown - accurate?

2012-01-02 Thread W4wj
 
The "Time Nuts" way:

 
It's just a matter of the studio guys listening to the XM feed
and then slewing their clock to "beep" ahead, so that the XM
feed "beep" is close to the real time.
 
FYI...  NBC advances their video feed, so that it arrives out of  the
station receiver on time.
 
Another FYI...  NBC video delivered over Dish Network are  delayed
14 -15 seconds...  all that processing between the TV station
Dish/DirecTV receive site and the consumer!!
 
 
73,
 
 
Don Murray, W4WJ


Retired from 40 years of  Miami Television Engineering
35+ years @ NBC O&O WTVJ

Now in  Fredericksburg, TX 



 
In a message dated 1/2/2012 4:24:33 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
li...@lazygranch.com writes:

The BBC  "pips" are heard on XM. The GPS in my car flips about the same 
time as the  top of the hour broadcast. I don't know if it is perfect, 
but good enough  for government  work.

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Re: [time-nuts] US New Year countdown - accurate?

2012-01-02 Thread W4wj
David...
 
That is weird...
 
I have 13 TV's (3 HD/HDMI, 10 SD/RF) running off 3 Dish  dual-tuners... 
 
Most times the audio between the HD sets and the RF fed sets are
right in step.
 
Don't ask about the 13 TV's, and the 13 remotes!!!   ;-)
 
HNY to all the NUTS...
 
73,
 
 
Don Murray, W4WJ


Retired from 40 years of  Miami Television Engineering
35+ years @ NBC O&O WTVJ

Now in  Fredericksburg, TX 



 
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> You  can't even get two TV's in the same house in sync with Dish Network 
>  !!
>
> The smaller TV in the kitchen gets the feed about a second  before the 
> big
> set in the living room !! Must be all that  delay in the cheap coax they
> use !!
>
> 73, Dick,  W1KSZ

.. or a simpler decompression algorithm, or faster  processor

73,
David GM8ARV
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[time-nuts] Check out MINT HALLICRAFTERS HT7 FREQUENCY STANDARD HAM RADIO N.R | eBay

2011-07-13 Thread W4wj
FYI...
 
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Don,
W4WJ
 
 
 
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[time-nuts] Check out Spectracom 8195B, Ageless Oscillator GPS Freq Standard | eBay

2011-07-13 Thread W4wj
FYI..
 
Don,
W4WJ
 
 
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2011-07-12 Thread W4wj
FYI everyone...
 
73,
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W4WJ
 
 
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Re: [time-nuts] Personal time keeping...

2011-05-20 Thread W4wj
Many radio stations had at least one Western Union clock that  generated a 
tone at the top of the hour.
 
The clock was designed so that it ran just a slight bit  fast.  As the top 
of the hour approached, the second hand would be  held momentarily at 00 
seconds,
then when the signal came down the line from Western  Union, the second 
hand was released and at the same time a relay was closed  to produce the
hour "tone."
 
Good stuff...
 
 
73, Don, W4WJ   
 
 
In a message dated 5/19/2011 11:21:20 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
m...@maxsmusicplace.com writes:

Is  anyone else old enough to remember when you would hear on the radio 
"Time  
at the tone, 5 o'clock.  Beep."  The tone was anywhere from half  a second 
to 
one second long and it might have been hard to pin down if the  beginning 
or 
the end of the tone was 5 o'clock but it was probably within  a couple of 
seconds accuracy which was plenty good for setting your watch  or the 
kitchen 
clock.  Why don't you hear that now a days?   Digital TV has latency which 
is 
dependant on the equipment used by the  cable or satellite company and is 
somewhat variable between receiver  manufacturers.  The engineer of our 
local 
public radio station told  me that digital radio has 7 seconds delay.  When 
I 
asked the station  manager if there were any plans to run studio time 7 
seconds ahead of real  time so listeners would get accurate time he just  
frowned.

Regards.

Max.  K 4 O D S.

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- Original Message  - 
From: "Steve Rooke" 
To: "Discussion of  precise time and frequency measurement"  

Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 10:45  AM
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Personal time keeping...


>A  number of years back the London Science Museum used to sell an  Einstein
> Relative Time Watch that just had the hours hand and was  marked around 
the
> dial, 1'ish, 2'ish, 3'ish, etc. I bought my ex one,  don't know if she 
> still
> has it. It's not the same as the new  ones I have seen via Googling as I
> think this was much more  fun.
>
> Steve
>
> On 20 May 2011 02:55, Burt I.  Weiner  wrote:
>
>>  Chuck,
>>
>> In another post I spoke about spending a few  days with a fellow from 
>> DATUM.
>>  A lot of our  idle chit-chat was about accuracy in timing and GPS 
>>  vs.other
>> off-air standards and propagation.  He told me about  his background in 
>> the
>> military and precision  measurements and about a watch he used to have 
>> that
>>  displayed in GPS seconds - fascinating stuffs.  I noticed that he  
wasn't
>> wearing a watch and I commented on that.  He told me  that he'd spent a 
>> good
>> part of his life knowing  precisely what time it was and still does the 
>> same
>>  thing in his work at DATUM.  He then went on to comment that he was 
tired  
>> of
>> knowing exactly what time it was and he personally  got sick of knowing 
>> the
>> exact time.  He also  said that looking at the kitchen clock once a day 
>> was
>>  close enough for him, that it reduced the stress on  him.
>>
>> Burt
>>
>> At 07:43 AM  5/19/2011, time-nuts-requ...@febo.com wrote
>>
>>> My  personal preference is for highly jeweled totally mechanical
>>>  automatic winding  wristwatches.  My hobby compels me to  have
>>> high accuracy time and frequency around, but my life  just
>>> doesn't run with that kind of  precision.
>>>
>>> -Chuck  Harris
>>>
>>
>> Burt I. Weiner  Associates
>> Broadcast Technical Services
>> Glendale,  California  U.S.A.
>> b...@att.net
>>  www.biwa.cc
>> K6OQK
>>
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>
> --  
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> The only reason for time is  so that everything doesn't happen at once. -
> Einstein
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Re: [time-nuts] What are these towers?

2011-05-20 Thread W4wj
So here are some URL's to explain the pattern for  KNTH...
 
If you will note, there are two Texas stations that KNTH  is protecting,
since they are SENIOR on the frequency...  Also, WAPI in  Birmingham
50KW daytime non-directional is being protected in the ENE  null.
We could go on and on!!  The first stations that must be  protected
are those ND (non-directionals) that are within several  hundred miles
of the Houston transmitter site.  Also any directionals  (DA) that do
not have nulls towards Houston must be protected.
 
Oh, 1060 and 1080 also have to be protected to a lesser  extent!!  ;-)
 
_http://www.amlogbook.com/freq/freq.htm#1070_ 
(http://www.amlogbook.com/freq/freq.htm#1070) 
 
Here is the page to look at the day and night patterns of  KNTH...  Note
that the patterns are essentially the same:
 
_http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/finder?call=knth&sr=Y&s=C&x=16&y=6_ 
(http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/finder?call=knth&sr=Y&s=C&x=16&y=6) 
 
and the stations being protected...  KOPY WSW of the KNTH  transmitter site
 
_http://www.radio-locator.com/info/KOPY-AM_ 
(http://www.radio-locator.com/info/KOPY-AM) 
 
Note that KOPY DOES NOT have a NULL towards KNTH either day or  night...
 
and note that non-directional KWEL is in the null off the back  of the KNTH
array.
 
Bottom line here...  someone wanted an AM station in  Houston...  After
a lot of midnight oil, and a lot of station day and night  pattern searches,
it was calculated that a pattern could be created for 1070 in  Houston
using 9 or 11 towers!!
 
AM antenna array black magic at work!!
 
Oh...  the AM rig is most likely GPS locked!!   ;-)  
 
 
73, Don, W4WJ
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 5/20/2011 6:47:39 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
lo...@pari.edu writes:


On  May 20, 2011, at 7:42 PM, Jim Lux wrote:
>
> 1070 kHz is also KNX,  a 50kW clear channel station in Los Angeles.   
> That might  be why the pattern's so small in any direction but  
> southeast at  night.
>
> So what is generally south east from Houston.   Galveston, I know,  
> but that's not very far away.  Are they  trying to broadcast to Cuba  
> as well? Or the Yucatan peninsula  or oil rig  and boat crews out in  
> the  gulf?
>

Nah; KNTH is north-north-west of the population center,  and thus  
'throws' its pattern toward the population center.   FCC rules require  
a certain field strength for the station's 'city  of license' and to do  
that the pattern is pointed towards the  population center.  I remember  
hearing some SBE (Society of  Broadcast Engineers) friends talking  
about this 'crazy 11 tower  array in Texas' years ago; nice to actually  
see it from the air  :-)



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Re: [time-nuts] light squared test

2011-05-18 Thread W4wj
A short article about the LightSquared concerns in  Nevada...
 
_http://www.gpsworld.com/transportation/aviation/news/faa-warns-gps-could-su
ffer-during-lightsquared-tests-in-nevada-11638?utm_source=GPS&utm_medium=ema
il&utm_campaign=navigate_05_16_2011&utm_content=faa-warns-gps-could-suffer-d
uring-lightsquared-tests-in-nevada-11638_ 
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nevada-11638?utm_source=GPS&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=navigate_05_16_201
1&utm_content=faa-warns-gps-could-suffer-during-lightsquared-tests-in-nevada
-11638) 
 
73, Don, W4WJ
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 5/18/2011 9:50:30 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
epoch_t...@yahoo.com writes:


The  local NBC news in las vegas reported tonight (5-18-11) that next week, 
piolets  flying at night may find gps unreliable or unuseable do to 
lightsquared  testing broadband internet equipment in a frequency band adjacent 
to 
gps  frequency.  And that las vegas falls within a 350 mile radius of this  
testing..

Anybody have anymore info on this test. I've been reading  posts here on 
timenuts about likely interference to gps receivers . And   the fcc rushing 
license's for lightsquared. But I wasn't aware of any  tests.  Does anyone 
know where lightsquared is testing its transmitters  that las vegas would fall 
within lightsquared's 350 mile  radius.

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Re: [time-nuts] HP 3586c FS

2011-04-30 Thread W4wj
Hi Norm...
 
Pictures??  Condition??
 
73, Don, W4WJ
 
 
 
In a message dated 4/30/2011 2:36:27 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
normn3...@stny.rr.com writes:

Hi,  
Have a working 3586c for sale. 250$ or best offer. Has 50 Ohm input on  
front 
panel. 
Thanks, 
Norm n3ykf  


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[time-nuts] Chip size Cesium Clock

2011-04-24 Thread W4wj
http://tinyurl.com/CesiumMini
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[time-nuts] Nixie Tube Lovers!!

2011-02-27 Thread W4wj
Interesting Nixie Tube Clock Execution...
 
73, Don, W4WJ
 
 
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Re: [time-nuts] NIST Down?

2011-02-18 Thread W4wj
Ditto here Brooke
 
Don, W4WJ
 
 
In a message dated 2/18/2011 11:39:27 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
bro...@pacific.net writes:

Hi:

Is NIST.gov down or is it me?

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Re: [time-nuts] Yikes, WECO is hard to find

2010-11-03 Thread W4wj
I found some on theBay
 
 
73, Don, W4WJ
 
 
 
In a message dated 11/3/2010 5:42:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
paulsw...@gmail.com writes:

They are  indeed very rare these days.
My luck has been at ham fests and they are  used also on the HP 3586
selective level voltmeters. Think I found them  also at the local MIT flea
market. But Fleas for this year are pretty much  over.
If they are around they are buried in the bottom of boxes and such.  Not 
sure
anyone knows what they are.
Regards
Paul.

On Wed, Nov  3, 2010 at 6:27 PM, William H. Fite   wrote:

> Anyone know a source for WECO 439A/440A connectors and  adapters?  
Optimist
> that I am, I thought they would be easy to  find.
>
> Coping with an HP 3336B.
>
> Thanks for any  help you can offer.
>
> Bill
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[time-nuts] Rb Clock on SVN62... A report

2010-08-25 Thread W4wj
_http://www.gpsworld.com/gnss-system/gps-modernization/news/rubidium-clock-s
vn62-a-bit-disappointing-10376_ 
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[time-nuts] Fwd: [VintageSS] BC221 Frequency Meter

2009-11-02 Thread W4wj
Here is something for a time nuts WWII setup...
 
 
73, Don, W4WJ
 
 

 
  

 From: bcarl...@cfl.rr.com
To: usedhamg...@yahoogroups.com,  usedradioequipm...@yahoogroups.com, 
vintag...@yahoogroups.com
Sent:  11/2/2009 4:10:22 A.M. Central Standard Time
Subj: [VintageSS] BC221  Frequency Meter



 
 
FOR SALE: BC221 Frequency Meter

Here is a standard unmodified BC-221  Frequency Meter and it comes with 
the book.
Beautifully built military  spec equipment with a dial drive and tuning 
capacitor that are
ideal  for a project like a VFO or a remote VFO or even a homebrew 
receiver or  transceiver.

Appearance is excellent inside. There is minor surface  rust on the catches 
on
the outside of the case, but it's nothing  serious at all. For its age this 
instrument
is in superior condition  compared to most of these that I have seen.
Available for $49.00 plus  shipping.
Pictures and details at:
_http://www.af4k.http://www.htt_ (http://www.af4k.com/radios.htm) 

73  - Brian Carling, AF4K

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Re: [time-nuts] Apollo, space and time

2009-07-16 Thread W4wj
Audio can also be found here...
 
_http://www.nasa.gov/externalflash/apollo11_radio/index.html_ 
(http://www.nasa.gov/externalflash/apollo11_radio/index.html) 
 
 
In a message dated 7/15/2009 10:43:50 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
t...@leapsecond.com writes:

This  might be of interest to a number of time-nuts. Its a live
video/audio feed,  exactly 40 years delayed...

http://wechoosethemoon.org/

"website  will be recreating the history Apollo 11 lunar mission.
You can view  photographs and videos from the archives,
follow the entire event minute by  minute on three separate
twitter feeds, and browse thousands of pages of  declassified
mission  documents."

/tvb


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Re: [time-nuts] Time Signals on TV signals

2009-05-27 Thread W4wj
Mark...
 
AH...   You are correct sir!!   I was  thinking of where I kept mine...   
;-)
 
TNX for the correction!!
 
 
73, Don, W4WJ  
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 5/26/2009 10:02:26 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
mhuffstut...@seanet.com writes:



Don,
I think
you might have dropped a zero there typing, They actually  allow
us
+/- 10 Hz on burst.

Best  Regards,
Mark

>
Unfortunately "cesium passthru" went away with  the advent of the

> use of frame synchronizers to receive the  network signal and
then 
> re-clock it to match the local sync  generator phase and
frequency. 
> 
> The FCC requirement for  the color burst
signal (3.579545 MHz) 
> is plus/minus 1 Hz... and  you can
certainly do better than that with 
> most  rudimentary
oscillators. 
>  




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Re: [time-nuts] Time Signals on TV signals

2009-05-26 Thread W4wj
Unfortunately  "cesium passthru" went away with the  advent of the
use of frame synchronizers to receive the network signal and  then
re-clock it to match the local sync generator phase and  frequency.
 
The FCC requirement for the color burst signal (3.579545  MHz)
is plus/minus 1 Hz... and you can  certainly do better than that with
most rudimentary oscillators.
 
So, the phase stability of your local network affiliate is  only as good
as their local sync generator...
 
Some stations do have sync generators with 10MHz EXT  REF
capability, allowing use of GPS or stabilized oscillators for  that 
input...
 
73,
 
Don, W4WJ
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 5/25/2009 1:14:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
hmur...@megapathdsl.net writes:


>  Why did TV stations stop broadcasting time signals? HDTV  requirements?

One thing that may be relevant

Many years ago,  all the TV sources were kept in sync so there wasn't any 
glitch when they  switched feeds.  The sync timing was distributed from at 
atomic clock  at network headquarters.  The time of day probably 
piggybacked 
on  that.

I remember an old NBS booklet describing it.  That was back  in the late 
70s.  
(It's probably a valuable collectors item  now.)  I think HP and NBS used 
to 
publish a table of delays for  several  major TV stations.  Somebody on 
this 
list will probably  recognize that description.

The breakthrough that got around the timing  requirement was frame buffers. 
 
(Thank Moore's law.)


>  Could a cable company interfere with the time signals?

Thanks for the  laugh.  :)

Cable companies do all sorts of strange  things.


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[time-nuts] OFF TOPIC... Seiko Digital Watch... Clarification...

2009-05-13 Thread W4wj
I appreciate all the comments...
 
The Seiko watches in question are Digital Display  types...
No mechanisims...  Other than the  pushbuttons...
 
TIA...
 
 
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[time-nuts] OFF TOPIC... Seiko Digital Watch

2009-05-12 Thread W4wj
Can anyone recommend a reputable Seiko Digital Watch  Repair shop?
 
TIA...
 
 
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Re: [time-nuts] Kindle and HP service manuals ?

2009-05-12 Thread W4wj
Here is your KindleDX info:
 
_http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0015TCML0/?tag=googhydr-20&hvadid=3482997509&ref=
pd_sl_19djrsy7gv_e_ 
(http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0015TCML0/?tag=googhydr-20&hvadid=3482997509&ref=pd_sl_19djrsy7gv_e)
 
 
 
73, Don, W4WJ
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 5/12/2009 11:25:07 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
w...@aol.com writes:

I have  the Kindle2 but have not taken any pdf files  across...

In order  to "see" pdf's on a K2...   You have  to send them thru  
Amazon.com, where they will be "converted" and sent along to  the  K2...

Unlike buying a book where there is no download (3G)   charge...  There is 
a 
charge for the transmission of pdf and  Word  docs.

FYI, the NEWEST Kindle, the KindleDX, with a 9.7 inch  screen,  will become 
available in the near future.  I don't know  if it will take  pdf's 
directly 
thru the USB port.  Google  search will give you the latest  "intel!"

Page changes on the K2  are quite fast...   Complete  book downloads happen
in less  than a minute...  Great out in the  sunlight...   1.5Gb  storage...
Good battery life...270K+ books   available...   Books can be ordered 
direct from the K2 screen,  or via  your normal computer...  MP3 files can 
be 
sent directly  to the K2 via the  USB and played thru the stereo speakers 
while you  read...  You can also  surf the net from the K2...   the  screen 
is 3.5 
x 4.75  inches...   Text size adjustable over  6 sizes...   Text to  speech 
converter
(still being fine  tuned!!)

Any K2 questions?  Let me know...


73, Don,  W4WJ 


In a message dated 5/12/2009 1:40:48 A.M. Central Daylight  Time,  
robert8...@yahoo.co.uk writes:


Hi,
I did post  last night but it seems to have gone into the bit  bucket.
I have had  a Sony PRS-505 for over a year. I agree with Russell,  It's 
great for  books, I have about 200 on mine at the moment. An often missed  
point,  
it's also an MP3 audio player. The screen size and resoultion make  it  
poor 
for PDF's though. Computer generated ones are just about  readable, most  
scanned ones are useless. There was a software update  that improved things 
a  
little, but not much. I keep "emergency"  datasheets on mine, but that's 
about  it. I also had trouble with the  manual for my Canon digital camera. 
The  
security watermark comes out  at 100% density and obliterates the text. 
B.T.W 
the sony is a Linux based  devive so there are hacking  possibilities.

Robert  G8RPI.

--- On Mon, 11/5/09, Russell  Rezaian   wrote:

> From: Russell Rezaian   
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Kindle and  HP  service manuals ?
> To: "Discussion of precise time and  frequency  measurement" 

> Date:  Monday, 11 May, 2009,  9:46 PM
> I don't have a Kindle, but I do  have
> both the Sony  Reader (501) and the iRex iLiad.
>  
> Here are a few comments  based on my experience.
>  
> I don't think the Kindle is  officially sold in Europe
>  yet.  Both the Sony and the iRex  readers are available
> in  Europe.  May not mean much for you, but  might make a
>  difference if you care about things like ease of  warranty
>  support.
> 
> Big point:  Most of these  devices have  screens that
> are too small to display an A4 or US Letter  PDF  page at full
> resolution.  So you either need to scale the   document,
> which in  my experience works poorly, or view  part  of
> the page.  Partial page views (where you view in  full
>  resolution, but have to scroll around the page) are  easier
> to read but  require you to do a lot more page  flipping.
> 
> Which brings me  to my next point.   Screen updates on
> the e-ink displays are slow,  it takes few  seconds to
> update  the pixels for every page  change.   For
> reading a novel this is not a major problem. For  reading  a
> technical document where you are going one page at a   time
> this is also not a problem.  If you're  searching
>  through a document and need to flip through a lot of  pages
> this  probably will be a problem.
> 
> That  said, the e-ink displays are  actually really nice to
> read.  Contrast is not close to what you get  with real paper,
> but  compared to most computer displays there's no  refresh
> flicker at  all, and good ambient light makes things  easier
> to read rather  than harder.  These displays are  very
> pleasant to read  compared to CRT or LCD.
> 
>  Regarding small screen size  iRex announced a new device
> with a more or  less A4 resolution  display.  This looks
> like it might be really  nice for  manuals and technical
> documents.  This box is also about   $1000.00 US, so I
> have not bought one.  I probably won't buy  one  any time
> soon either, simply as I can't justify the expense  as  I
> already have a couple of the smaller readers  already.
>

Re: [time-nuts] Heath Most Accurate Clock

2009-05-12 Thread W4wj
Heathkit GC-1000 Most Accurate Clock
 
Recently a NIB unit sold on the "bay" for $1K...
 
 
73, Don, W4WJ
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 5/11/2009 6:38:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
k3...@aol.com writes:

Bill
I had heard of this clock, but I was never able to locate info  and model 
of 
the clock as I was also interested in locating one.   
Could you please at least send me the information on the clock. I  would  
appreciate it very  much.
Thanks

Joe

Regards,

Dr. Joseph G. Palsa  P.E.
Director, Sales &  Marketing
Clary Corporation
Phone:  888-442-5279
Phone:  804-674-0364
Fax: 804-674-0714
Cell:   804-350-2665
jpa...@clary.com
djpa...@yahoo.com 
k3...@aol.com   


In a message dated 5/11/2009 6:16:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight  Time,  
b...@iaxs.net writes:

Talked  to someone on this  list last winter about a Heath WWV clock,
but then  couldn't find the  clock.

Now I've found it, but lost the name of the  interested  party.

Bill   Hawkins


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Re: [time-nuts] Kindle and HP service manuals ?

2009-05-12 Thread W4wj
I have the Kindle2 but have not taken any pdf files  across...
 
In order to "see" pdf's on a K2...   You have  to send them thru 
Amazon.com, where they will be "converted" and sent along to  the K2...
 
Unlike buying a book where there is no download (3G)  charge...  There is a 
charge for the transmission of pdf and Word  docs.
 
FYI, the NEWEST Kindle, the KindleDX, with a 9.7 inch screen,  will become 
available in the near future.  I don't know if it will take  pdf's directly 
thru the USB port.  Google search will give you the latest  "intel!"
 
Page changes on the K2 are quite fast...   Complete  book downloads happen
in less than a minute...  Great out in the  sunlight...   1.5Gb storage...
Good battery life...270K+ books  available...   Books can be ordered 
direct from the K2 screen, or via  your normal computer...  MP3 files can be 
sent directly to the K2 via the  USB and played thru the stereo speakers 
while you read...  You can also  surf the net from the K2...   the screen is 
3.5 
x 4.75  inches...   Text size adjustable over 6 sizes...   Text to  speech 
converter
(still being fine tuned!!)
 
Any K2 questions?  Let me know...
 
 
73, Don, W4WJ 
 
 
In a message dated 5/12/2009 1:40:48 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
robert8...@yahoo.co.uk writes:


Hi,
I did post last night but it seems to have gone into the bit  bucket.
I have had a Sony PRS-505 for over a year. I agree with Russell,  It's 
great for books, I have about 200 on mine at the moment. An often missed  
point, 
it's also an MP3 audio player. The screen size and resoultion make it  poor 
for PDF's though. Computer generated ones are just about readable, most  
scanned ones are useless. There was a software update that improved things a  
little, but not much. I keep "emergency" datasheets on mine, but that's 
about  it. I also had trouble with the manual for my Canon digital camera. The  
security watermark comes out at 100% density and obliterates the text. B.T.W 
 the sony is a Linux based devive so there are hacking  possibilities.

Robert G8RPI.

--- On Mon, 11/5/09, Russell  Rezaian  wrote:

> From: Russell Rezaian  
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Kindle and HP  service manuals ?
> To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency  measurement" 

> Date: Monday, 11 May, 2009,  9:46 PM
> I don't have a Kindle, but I do have
> both the Sony  Reader (501) and the iRex iLiad.
> 
> Here are a few comments  based on my experience.
> 
> I don't think the Kindle is  officially sold in Europe
> yet.  Both the Sony and the iRex  readers are available
> in Europe.  May not mean much for you, but  might make a
> difference if you care about things like ease of  warranty
> support.
> 
> Big point:  Most of these  devices have screens that
> are too small to display an A4 or US Letter  PDF page at full
> resolution.  So you either need to scale the  document,
> which in  my experience works poorly, or view part  of
> the page.  Partial page views (where you view in full
>  resolution, but have to scroll around the page) are easier
> to read but  require you to do a lot more page flipping.
> 
> Which brings me  to my next point.  Screen updates on
> the e-ink displays are slow,  it takes few seconds to
> update  the pixels for every page  change.  For
> reading a novel this is not a major problem. For  reading a
> technical document where you are going one page at a  time
> this is also not a problem.  If you're searching
>  through a document and need to flip through a lot of pages
> this  probably will be a problem.
> 
> That said, the e-ink displays are  actually really nice to
> read. Contrast is not close to what you get  with real paper,
> but compared to most computer displays there's no  refresh
> flicker at all, and good ambient light makes things  easier
> to read rather than harder.  These displays are  very
> pleasant to read compared to CRT or LCD.
> 
>  Regarding small screen size iRex announced a new device
> with a more or  less A4 resolution display.  This looks
> like it might be really  nice for manuals and technical
> documents.  This box is also about  $1000.00 US, so I
> have not bought one.  I probably won't buy one  any time
> soon either, simply as I can't justify the expense as  I
> already have a couple of the smaller readers already.
>  
> I hate to say this as I do like these devices, but if
> you're  trying to read a technical document and also work on
> an instrument at  the same time I really think you're
> probably going to have the best  results with just printing
> the document out on paper.
> 
>  The reader devices are getting nice, but they're not really
> ready to  replace paper for challenging situations.
> 

[time-nuts] Yahoo Announcement regarding Geocities

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Re: [time-nuts] Another Time Station

2007-05-01 Thread W4wj
 
In a message dated 5/1/2007 7:55:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Hi  All;
There is another time station on the AM BCB at 570Khz. It is  receivable in 
northern Indiana on most quiet nights.
It has time ticks, a  longer tone at the minute mark and sends the letters 
R-R shortly after the top  of the minute. 
I believe it is in the Carribean somewhere but I'm not  sure, there is also 
another one further up the dial around 800-900Khz, but  much harder for me to 
hear at this location. 
Regards;  Rich
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Re: [time-nuts] ARRL FMT

2006-10-27 Thread W4wj
In a message dated 10/27/2006 9:07:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

It is  back to the previous method of sending a clean CW signal.

I did not  participate previously, so I have no experience with the test.

If I  understand correctly, they will transmit on all 3 frequencies  
simultaneously, but we are supposed to measure only the specific band  
they announce at a time?

Since I only have a decent antenna for  80m, can I take advantage of all 
3 transmit windows on 80m?

Didier  KO4BB

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> The announcement for the 2006  Frequency Measuring  Test
> has finally appeared at the ARRL Web  site.
>  
> For those of you that might be interested go  to:
>  
> _http://www.arrl.org/w1aw/fmt/_  (http://www.arrl.org/w1aw/fmt/) 
>  
>  
> 73,  Don, W4WJ
> ___
>  

Hi Didier...
 
The "official" readings are taken for the band that is  announced.
 
Even though the exciters at W1AW are left on for an extended  period of time 
before the test, there is some drift during the
test period.
 
I would suggest that you listen on 160 and 40 meters during  the callup to 
determine wether you have a shot on those bands or  not.



If you are going to submit in the tenths of Hz, I would  suggest that you 
only measure during the announced time for that  band.
 
Good Luck!!
 
 
73, Don, W4WJ
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[time-nuts] ARRL FMT

2006-10-27 Thread W4wj
The announcement for the 2006 Frequency Measuring  Test
has finally appeared at the ARRL Web site.
 
For those of you that might be interested go to:
 
_http://www.arrl.org/w1aw/fmt/_ (http://www.arrl.org/w1aw/fmt/) 
 
 
73, Don, W4WJ
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Re: [time-nuts] ARRL 2006 Frequency Measuring Test

2006-10-18 Thread W4wj
 
In a message dated 10/18/2006 12:26:09 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

The  November QST has an announcement for the "2006 Frequency Measuring Test"
(  www.arrl.org/w1aw/fmt - though the 2006 announcement has not made it to
the  website yet).  The object is to determine as accurately as possible  the
carrier frequency of a signal sent from W1AW on the 160m, 80m and  40m
bands.  There will also be a signal sent from the west coast on  the 40m
band.  A lot of time nuts are hams.  Who plans on  participating?

Henry
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Henry...
 
The FMT is a must on my calendar!!
 
 
73, Don, W4WJ
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[time-nuts] 5061A FS at QTH.com

2006-06-29 Thread W4wj
Just saw this at QTH.com
 
Don't know anything about it, etc...
 
 
Don, W4WJ
 
 




TEST - HP 5061A Cesium Beam Frequency Standard  
I have these units and have no use for  them.. 
If interested please call me at 219 972-.  
I Do Not check Email so don't waste your time. 73's  Jim 
Listing #540198 - Submitted on 06/29/06 by Callsign _W9CTO_ 
(http://www.qth.com/callsign.php?cs=W9CTO) , Web Site: _http://www.w9cto.com_ 
(http://www.w9cto.com/)  
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Re: [time-nuts] Administrivia: June Archives

2006-06-22 Thread W4wj
 
In a message dated 6/22/2006 7:49:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Sorry to  report this, but the June archives of the time-nuts list don't
exist.   Near the beginning of the month, I attempted to delete a message
that was  inadvertently sent to the list rather than privately, and
somehow managed  to screw things up so that the archive engine broke.

If anyone out  there happens to have their own collection of this month's
messages, I may  be able to recreate the list archive from that.  If you
can help, just  drop me a line at  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks,

John


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Hi John...
 
I have all postings back to May 25th...
 
I can FORWARD them to you one at a time!
 
Let me know!!
 
73, Don, W4WJ
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