Re: [time-nuts] 15 volt power supply for FE-5680A on eBay

2012-01-21 Thread Chris Albertson
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Paul F. Sehorne  wrote:
> Good that you  pointed that out to me. I ran the test again.  The
> voltage at the power supply terminals never dropped below 15.25 vdc with up
> to 3 amp load applied.  When will I learn... darn those clip leads got me...
> again.

Chuck those leads in the thrash right away while you are thinking of it.


Chris Albertson
Redondo Beach, California

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Re: [time-nuts] 15 volt power supply for FE-5680A on eBay

2012-01-21 Thread Paul F. Sehorne
Good that you  pointed that out to me. I ran the test again.  The 
voltage at the power supply terminals never dropped below 15.25 vdc with 
up to 3 amp load applied.  When will I learn... darn those clip leads 
got me... again.


On 1/21/2012 5:34 PM, David wrote:
The total regulation specification is +/- 5% so within 14.25 to 15.75 
volts under all conditions. How high was your lead resistance? 


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Re: [time-nuts] 15 volt power supply for FE-5680A on eBay

2012-01-21 Thread Paul F. Sehorne
I'll have to set up the test again and measure voltage drop across the 
leads and the voltage directly at the power supply supply terminals.


On 1/21/2012 5:34 PM, David wrote:

On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 17:20:39 -0600, "Paul F. Sehorne"
  wrote:


On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 6:25 PM, Chris Albertson
wrote:

What I bought is a 15V open frame supply from allelectronics.com for
$11.50.  It turned out to be a very high quality power supply (Digikey
has the same unit for almost $40)   This PS does not drop volts even
with the line input and load  well out of spec (I tested 63VAC input
to a 4A load briefly) ...
This is the one I bought

http://www.allelectronics.com/make-a-store/item/PS-152/15VDC-2.7A-POWER-SUPPLY/1.html


I ordered two of the above mentioned power supplies.  They arrived
today.  I tested both of them.
Neither holds 15 volts.  At 2 amps they are down to 14 volts.  Even at 1
amp they are down to 14.5 vdc.

The total regulation specification is +/- 5% so within 14.25 to 15.75
volts under all conditions.  How high was your lead resistance?

http://iccnexergy.com/elpac/medical-power-supplies/open-frame/mta040/

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Re: [time-nuts] 15 volt power supply for FE-5680A on eBay

2012-01-21 Thread David
On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 17:20:39 -0600, "Paul F. Sehorne"
 wrote:

>On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 6:25 PM, Chris Albertson 
>wrote:
 What I bought is a 15V open frame supply from allelectronics.com for
 $11.50.  It turned out to be a very high quality power supply (Digikey
 has the same unit for almost $40)   This PS does not drop volts even
 with the line input and load  well out of spec (I tested 63VAC input
 to a 4A load briefly) ...
 This is the one I bought

 http://www.allelectronics.com/make-a-store/item/PS-152/15VDC-2.7A-POWER-SUPPLY/1.html

>>
>
>I ordered two of the above mentioned power supplies.  They arrived 
>today.  I tested both of them.
>Neither holds 15 volts.  At 2 amps they are down to 14 volts.  Even at 1 
>amp they are down to 14.5 vdc.

The total regulation specification is +/- 5% so within 14.25 to 15.75
volts under all conditions.  How high was your lead resistance?

http://iccnexergy.com/elpac/medical-power-supplies/open-frame/mta040/

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Re: [time-nuts] 15 volt power supply for FE-5680A on eBay

2012-01-21 Thread Paul F. Sehorne
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 6:25 PM, Chris Albertson 
wrote:

What I bought is a 15V open frame supply from allelectronics.com for
$11.50.  It turned out to be a very high quality power supply (Digikey
has the same unit for almost $40)   This PS does not drop volts even
with the line input and load  well out of spec (I tested 63VAC input
to a 4A load briefly) ...
This is the one I bought

http://www.allelectronics.com/make-a-store/item/PS-152/15VDC-2.7A-POWER-SUPPLY/1.html





I ordered two of the above mentioned power supplies.  They arrived 
today.  I tested both of them.
Neither holds 15 volts.  At 2 amps they are down to 14 volts.  Even at 1 
amp they are down to 14.5 vdc.


Paul

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Re: [time-nuts] 15 volt power supply for FE-5680A on eBay

2012-01-20 Thread Paul F. Sehorne

Correcting link

http://www.ko4bb.com/dokuwiki/doku.php



On 1/20/2012 10:47 AM, shali...@gmail.com wrote:

I started a wiki page with the pin-out information ans was planning to copy the 
most interesting posts, but I do not have one, so the incentive is pretty low 
at this point. If you want to do it, be my guest.

http://wwwmko4bb.com/dokuwiki/doku.php

Didier KO4BB



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Re: [time-nuts] 15 volt power supply for FE-5680A on eBay

2012-01-20 Thread Rob Kimberley
Hi Didier,

That link didn't work. Can you check and re-send?

Thanks.

Rob

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Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 15 volt power supply for FE-5680A on eBay

I started a wiki page with the pin-out information ans was planning to copy
the most interesting posts, but I do not have one, so the incentive is
pretty low at this point. If you want to do it, be my guest.

http://wwwmko4bb.com/dokuwiki/doku.php

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Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 15 volt power supply for FE-5680A on eBay

Pete
Thank you this is valuable info. I noticed that an effort is underway to
centralize info on the 5680. Would be nice if some one with time and
software  expertize would combine all the information. I cut and paste what
ever I find on  the list and will be glad to forward it to a volunteer. This
kind of findings  should be included. 
Bert Kehren
 
 
In a message dated 1/18/2012 8:47:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
bell.pe...@gmail.com writes:

One of  the regulators (the one that runs the lamp and lamp heater) is
running at  13.8V and has a 500mV dropout voltage, so there is very little
(~ 700mV)  headroom. The one that runs the cell heater is about a volt lower
and the  one that runs the analog circuits is set to 8.8V, so has plenty of
headroom.

I suspect the lamp regulator is mostly there to reduce the  start-up
current, though - the FE-5650 has a very similar lamp circuit with  no
regulator and the only significant difference seems to be that  the current
pulled when the unit is cold is  higher.

Regards,

Pete Bell


On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at  8:19 AM, paul swed  wrote:
> I think it is  important. The specs say 15-18V.
> So I would not drop below the spec.  Though interestingly pretty much 
> everything inside the system is using  switching supplies so perhaps 
> there is more room.
> The gtood  thing about the switchers is that as the input V goes up
current
>  should go down if that helps you.
> Regards
>  Paul.
>
> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 6:25 PM, Chris Albertson
>  wrote:
>
>> I used a variable  voltage bench supply to experiment.  tried low
>> voltage like  you are seeing on my FE5680 and I never got a lock.   The
>>  FE5680A spec sheet says 15 to 18 volts and I think you can get buy  
>> with 14.5V.  i tried 12.5 and got "nothing"
>>
>> I did  not test to find the "breaking point"  But 1/2 volt low was  
>> OK and 2.5V low was not ok.
>>
>> What I bought  is a 15V open frame supply from allelectronics.com for 
>> $11.50.  It turned out to be a very high quality power supply  (Digikey
>> has the same unit for almost $40)   This PS does not  drop volts even
>> with the line input and load  well out of  spec (I tested 63VAC input 
>> to a 4A load briefly)  I added an  RF "hash" filter "just because I 
>> could"  and then an LM7805  and I think I'm OK.
>>
>> I thought about making a linear  supply for the cleanest power but i 
>> intend to run this 24x7 and  don't like wasting so much power.
>>
>> This is the one I  bought
>>
>>  
http://www.allelectronics.com/make-a-store/item/PS-152/15VDC-2.7A-POWER-SUPP
LY/1.html
>>
>>
>>  On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Paul F. Sehorne 
wrote:
>> > How important is the 15vdc at the initial startup  2amp, and then 
>> > how important at the .7 amp settled  rate?
>> >
>> > I just received two of  these
>> >  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280439877318
>>  >
>> > Unloaded voltage is ~15.5vdc.  At 700 ma voltage  drops to 14.3 
>> > volts
and
>> > with 2 amp load drops to 13.3 volts  with a 2 amp load (and to 10 
>> > volts
>> with
>> > a 5 amp  load).  Supposedly rated at 6 amps.  I have only checked  
>> > one,
>> have
>> > not broken the packaging on the second  one assuming its 
>> > performance
will
>> be
>> >  similar.
>> >
>> > Will this be a problem?
>>  >
>> > Paul
>> >
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Re: [time-nuts] 15 volt power supply for FE-5680A on eBay

2012-01-20 Thread shalimr9
I started a wiki page with the pin-out information ans was planning to copy the 
most interesting posts, but I do not have one, so the incentive is pretty low 
at this point. If you want to do it, be my guest.

http://wwwmko4bb.com/dokuwiki/doku.php

Didier KO4BB

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Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 15 volt power supply for FE-5680A on eBay

Pete
Thank you this is valuable info. I noticed that an effort is underway to  
centralize info on the 5680. Would be nice if some one with time and software 
 expertize would combine all the information. I cut and paste what ever I 
find on  the list and will be glad to forward it to a volunteer. This kind of 
findings  should be included. 
Bert Kehren
 
 
In a message dated 1/18/2012 8:47:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
bell.pe...@gmail.com writes:

One of  the regulators (the one that runs the lamp and lamp heater) is
running at  13.8V and has a 500mV dropout voltage, so there is very
little (~ 700mV)  headroom. The one that runs the cell heater is about
a volt lower and the  one that runs the analog circuits is set to 8.8V,
so has plenty of  headroom.

I suspect the lamp regulator is mostly there to reduce the  start-up
current, though - the FE-5650 has a very similar lamp circuit with  no
regulator and the only significant difference seems to be that  the
current pulled when the unit is cold is  higher.

Regards,

Pete Bell


On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at  8:19 AM, paul swed  wrote:
> I think it is  important. The specs say 15-18V.
> So I would not drop below the spec.  Though interestingly pretty much
> everything inside the system is using  switching supplies so perhaps there
> is more room.
> The gtood  thing about the switchers is that as the input V goes up 
current
>  should go down if that helps you.
> Regards
>  Paul.
>
> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 6:25 PM, Chris Albertson
>  wrote:
>
>> I used a variable  voltage bench supply to experiment.  tried low
>> voltage like  you are seeing on my FE5680 and I never got a lock.   The
>>  FE5680A spec sheet says 15 to 18 volts and I think you can get buy
>>  with 14.5V.  i tried 12.5 and got "nothing"
>>
>> I did  not test to find the "breaking point"  But 1/2 volt low was  OK
>> and 2.5V low was not ok.
>>
>> What I bought  is a 15V open frame supply from allelectronics.com for
>> $11.50.  It turned out to be a very high quality power supply  (Digikey
>> has the same unit for almost $40)   This PS does not  drop volts even
>> with the line input and load  well out of  spec (I tested 63VAC input
>> to a 4A load briefly)  I added an  RF "hash" filter "just because I
>> could"  and then an LM7805  and I think I'm OK.
>>
>> I thought about making a linear  supply for the cleanest power but i
>> intend to run this 24x7 and  don't like wasting so much power.
>>
>> This is the one I  bought
>>
>>  
http://www.allelectronics.com/make-a-store/item/PS-152/15VDC-2.7A-POWER-SUPPLY/1.html
>>
>>
>>  On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Paul F. Sehorne   
wrote:
>> > How important is the 15vdc at the initial startup  2amp, and then how
>> > important at the .7 amp settled  rate?
>> >
>> > I just received two of  these
>> >  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280439877318
>>  >
>> > Unloaded voltage is ~15.5vdc.  At 700 ma voltage  drops to 14.3 volts 
and
>> > with 2 amp load drops to 13.3 volts  with a 2 amp load (and to 10 volts
>> with
>> > a 5 amp  load).  Supposedly rated at 6 amps.  I have only checked  one,
>> have
>> > not broken the packaging on the second  one assuming its performance 
will
>> be
>> >  similar.
>> >
>> > Will this be a problem?
>>  >
>> > Paul
>> >
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>> Redondo Beach,  California
>>
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Re: [time-nuts] 15 volt power supply for FE-5680A on eBay

2012-01-19 Thread EWKehren
With the # of units in the hands of list members it makes sense to  
coordinate tests, characterizing the unit.
The PICTIC is probably the only other device having that kind of  
penetration.
Bert Kehren
 
 
 
In a message dated 1/18/2012 8:17:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
li...@rtty.us writes:

Hi

I think you would want something with better regulation  to really get the 
Rb to perform well.

Bob



On Jan 18,  2012, at 6:05 PM, "Paul F. Sehorne"   wrote:

> How important is the 15vdc at the initial startup 2amp, and  then how 
important at the .7 amp settled rate?
> 
> I just  received two of these
>  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280439877318
>  
> Unloaded voltage is ~15.5vdc.  At 700 ma voltage drops to 14.3  volts and 
with 2 amp load drops to 13.3 volts with a 2 amp load (and to 10  volts 
with a 5 amp load).  Supposedly rated at 6 amps.  I have only  checked one, 
have not broken the packaging on the second one assuming its  performance will 
be similar.
> 
> Will this be a problem?
>  
> Paul
> 
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Re: [time-nuts] 15 volt power supply for FE-5680A on eBay

2012-01-19 Thread EWKehren
Pete
Thank you this is valuable info. I noticed that an effort is underway to  
centralize info on the 5680. Would be nice if some one with time and software 
 expertize would combine all the information. I cut and paste what ever I 
find on  the list and will be glad to forward it to a volunteer. This kind of 
findings  should be included. 
Bert Kehren
 
 
In a message dated 1/18/2012 8:47:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
bell.pe...@gmail.com writes:

One of  the regulators (the one that runs the lamp and lamp heater) is
running at  13.8V and has a 500mV dropout voltage, so there is very
little (~ 700mV)  headroom. The one that runs the cell heater is about
a volt lower and the  one that runs the analog circuits is set to 8.8V,
so has plenty of  headroom.

I suspect the lamp regulator is mostly there to reduce the  start-up
current, though - the FE-5650 has a very similar lamp circuit with  no
regulator and the only significant difference seems to be that  the
current pulled when the unit is cold is  higher.

Regards,

Pete Bell


On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at  8:19 AM, paul swed  wrote:
> I think it is  important. The specs say 15-18V.
> So I would not drop below the spec.  Though interestingly pretty much
> everything inside the system is using  switching supplies so perhaps there
> is more room.
> The gtood  thing about the switchers is that as the input V goes up 
current
>  should go down if that helps you.
> Regards
>  Paul.
>
> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 6:25 PM, Chris Albertson
>  wrote:
>
>> I used a variable  voltage bench supply to experiment.  tried low
>> voltage like  you are seeing on my FE5680 and I never got a lock.   The
>>  FE5680A spec sheet says 15 to 18 volts and I think you can get buy
>>  with 14.5V.  i tried 12.5 and got "nothing"
>>
>> I did  not test to find the "breaking point"  But 1/2 volt low was  OK
>> and 2.5V low was not ok.
>>
>> What I bought  is a 15V open frame supply from allelectronics.com for
>> $11.50.  It turned out to be a very high quality power supply  (Digikey
>> has the same unit for almost $40)   This PS does not  drop volts even
>> with the line input and load  well out of  spec (I tested 63VAC input
>> to a 4A load briefly)  I added an  RF "hash" filter "just because I
>> could"  and then an LM7805  and I think I'm OK.
>>
>> I thought about making a linear  supply for the cleanest power but i
>> intend to run this 24x7 and  don't like wasting so much power.
>>
>> This is the one I  bought
>>
>>  
http://www.allelectronics.com/make-a-store/item/PS-152/15VDC-2.7A-POWER-SUPPLY/1.html
>>
>>
>>  On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Paul F. Sehorne   
wrote:
>> > How important is the 15vdc at the initial startup  2amp, and then how
>> > important at the .7 amp settled  rate?
>> >
>> > I just received two of  these
>> >  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280439877318
>>  >
>> > Unloaded voltage is ~15.5vdc.  At 700 ma voltage  drops to 14.3 volts 
and
>> > with 2 amp load drops to 13.3 volts  with a 2 amp load (and to 10 volts
>> with
>> > a 5 amp  load).  Supposedly rated at 6 amps.  I have only checked  one,
>> have
>> > not broken the packaging on the second  one assuming its performance 
will
>> be
>> >  similar.
>> >
>> > Will this be a problem?
>>  >
>> > Paul
>> >
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>>
>>
>>  --
>>
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>> Redondo Beach,  California
>>
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Re: [time-nuts] 15 volt power supply for FE-5680A on eBay

2012-01-18 Thread Peter Bell
One of the regulators (the one that runs the lamp and lamp heater) is
running at 13.8V and has a 500mV dropout voltage, so there is very
little (~ 700mV) headroom. The one that runs the cell heater is about
a volt lower and the one that runs the analog circuits is set to 8.8V,
so has plenty of headroom.

I suspect the lamp regulator is mostly there to reduce the start-up
current, though - the FE-5650 has a very similar lamp circuit with no
regulator and the only significant difference seems to be that the
current pulled when the unit is cold is higher.

Regards,

Pete Bell


On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 8:19 AM, paul swed  wrote:
> I think it is important. The specs say 15-18V.
> So I would not drop below the spec. Though interestingly pretty much
> everything inside the system is using switching supplies so perhaps there
> is more room.
> The gtood thing about the switchers is that as the input V goes up current
> should go down if that helps you.
> Regards
> Paul.
>
> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 6:25 PM, Chris Albertson
> wrote:
>
>> I used a variable voltage bench supply to experiment.  tried low
>> voltage like you are seeing on my FE5680 and I never got a lock.   The
>> FE5680A spec sheet says 15 to 18 volts and I think you can get buy
>> with 14.5V.  i tried 12.5 and got "nothing"
>>
>> I did not test to find the "breaking point"  But 1/2 volt low was OK
>> and 2.5V low was not ok.
>>
>> What I bought is a 15V open frame supply from allelectronics.com for
>> $11.50.  It turned out to be a very high quality power supply (Digikey
>> has the same unit for almost $40)   This PS does not drop volts even
>> with the line input and load  well out of spec (I tested 63VAC input
>> to a 4A load briefly)  I added an RF "hash" filter "just because I
>> could"  and then an LM7805 and I think I'm OK.
>>
>> I thought about making a linear supply for the cleanest power but i
>> intend to run this 24x7 and don't like wasting so much power.
>>
>> This is the one I bought
>>
>> http://www.allelectronics.com/make-a-store/item/PS-152/15VDC-2.7A-POWER-SUPPLY/1.html
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Paul F. Sehorne  wrote:
>> > How important is the 15vdc at the initial startup 2amp, and then how
>> > important at the .7 amp settled rate?
>> >
>> > I just received two of these
>> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280439877318
>> >
>> > Unloaded voltage is ~15.5vdc.  At 700 ma voltage drops to 14.3 volts and
>> > with 2 amp load drops to 13.3 volts with a 2 amp load (and to 10 volts
>> with
>> > a 5 amp load).  Supposedly rated at 6 amps.  I have only checked one,
>> have
>> > not broken the packaging on the second one assuming its performance will
>> be
>> > similar.
>> >
>> > Will this be a problem?
>> >
>> > Paul
>> >
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>>
>>
>> --
>>
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>> Redondo Beach, California
>>
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Re: [time-nuts] 15 volt power supply for FE-5680A on eBay

2012-01-18 Thread paul swed
I think it is important. The specs say 15-18V.
So I would not drop below the spec. Though interestingly pretty much
everything inside the system is using switching supplies so perhaps there
is more room.
The gtood thing about the switchers is that as the input V goes up current
should go down if that helps you.
Regards
Paul.

On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 6:25 PM, Chris Albertson
wrote:

> I used a variable voltage bench supply to experiment.  tried low
> voltage like you are seeing on my FE5680 and I never got a lock.   The
> FE5680A spec sheet says 15 to 18 volts and I think you can get buy
> with 14.5V.  i tried 12.5 and got "nothing"
>
> I did not test to find the "breaking point"  But 1/2 volt low was OK
> and 2.5V low was not ok.
>
> What I bought is a 15V open frame supply from allelectronics.com for
> $11.50.  It turned out to be a very high quality power supply (Digikey
> has the same unit for almost $40)   This PS does not drop volts even
> with the line input and load  well out of spec (I tested 63VAC input
> to a 4A load briefly)  I added an RF "hash" filter "just because I
> could"  and then an LM7805 and I think I'm OK.
>
> I thought about making a linear supply for the cleanest power but i
> intend to run this 24x7 and don't like wasting so much power.
>
> This is the one I bought
>
> http://www.allelectronics.com/make-a-store/item/PS-152/15VDC-2.7A-POWER-SUPPLY/1.html
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Paul F. Sehorne  wrote:
> > How important is the 15vdc at the initial startup 2amp, and then how
> > important at the .7 amp settled rate?
> >
> > I just received two of these
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280439877318
> >
> > Unloaded voltage is ~15.5vdc.  At 700 ma voltage drops to 14.3 volts and
> > with 2 amp load drops to 13.3 volts with a 2 amp load (and to 10 volts
> with
> > a 5 amp load).  Supposedly rated at 6 amps.  I have only checked one,
> have
> > not broken the packaging on the second one assuming its performance will
> be
> > similar.
> >
> > Will this be a problem?
> >
> > Paul
> >
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Re: [time-nuts] 15 volt power supply for FE-5680A on eBay

2012-01-18 Thread Bob Camp
Hi

I think you would want something with better regulation to really get the Rb to 
perform well.

Bob



On Jan 18, 2012, at 6:05 PM, "Paul F. Sehorne"  wrote:

> How important is the 15vdc at the initial startup 2amp, and then how 
> important at the .7 amp settled rate?
> 
> I just received two of these
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280439877318
> 
> Unloaded voltage is ~15.5vdc.  At 700 ma voltage drops to 14.3 volts and with 
> 2 amp load drops to 13.3 volts with a 2 amp load (and to 10 volts with a 5 
> amp load).  Supposedly rated at 6 amps.  I have only checked one, have not 
> broken the packaging on the second one assuming its performance will be 
> similar.
> 
> Will this be a problem?
> 
> Paul
> 
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Re: [time-nuts] 15 volt power supply for FE-5680A on eBay

2012-01-18 Thread Chris Albertson
I used a variable voltage bench supply to experiment.  tried low
voltage like you are seeing on my FE5680 and I never got a lock.   The
FE5680A spec sheet says 15 to 18 volts and I think you can get buy
with 14.5V.  i tried 12.5 and got "nothing"

I did not test to find the "breaking point"  But 1/2 volt low was OK
and 2.5V low was not ok.

What I bought is a 15V open frame supply from allelectronics.com for
$11.50.  It turned out to be a very high quality power supply (Digikey
has the same unit for almost $40)   This PS does not drop volts even
with the line input and load  well out of spec (I tested 63VAC input
to a 4A load briefly)  I added an RF "hash" filter "just because I
could"  and then an LM7805 and I think I'm OK.

I thought about making a linear supply for the cleanest power but i
intend to run this 24x7 and don't like wasting so much power.

This is the one I bought
http://www.allelectronics.com/make-a-store/item/PS-152/15VDC-2.7A-POWER-SUPPLY/1.html


On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Paul F. Sehorne  wrote:
> How important is the 15vdc at the initial startup 2amp, and then how
> important at the .7 amp settled rate?
>
> I just received two of these
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280439877318
>
> Unloaded voltage is ~15.5vdc.  At 700 ma voltage drops to 14.3 volts and
> with 2 amp load drops to 13.3 volts with a 2 amp load (and to 10 volts with
> a 5 amp load).  Supposedly rated at 6 amps.  I have only checked one, have
> not broken the packaging on the second one assuming its performance will be
> similar.
>
> Will this be a problem?
>
> Paul
>
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[time-nuts] 15 volt power supply for FE-5680A on eBay

2012-01-18 Thread Paul F. Sehorne
How important is the 15vdc at the initial startup 2amp, and then how 
important at the .7 amp settled rate?


I just received two of these
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280439877318

Unloaded voltage is ~15.5vdc.  At 700 ma voltage drops to 14.3 volts and 
with 2 amp load drops to 13.3 volts with a 2 amp load (and to 10 volts 
with a 5 amp load).  Supposedly rated at 6 amps.  I have only checked 
one, have not broken the packaging on the second one assuming its 
performance will be similar.


Will this be a problem?

Paul

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