[time-nuts] Anyone from Italy here ?
Hi T-Nuts In january 2012 - I bought a Prologix GPIB interface from an Italian Seller sglabs on the Bay. Today i received a mail from the seller SNIP * I need a favor form you… Here in Italy is requiring by law…. that for all customers that have bought something from us, I need to have also birthplace and birthday… I’m sorry to disturb for this reason, but I need help from you. Thanks for collaboration Best regards SNIP * The mail actually looks quite authentic , Correct name phone# etc. But i have never heard of such a request before. And was wondering if any Italian T-Nut could verify that this request is valid. It seems a bit strange to me ... TIA CFO - Tnut beginner Denmark ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Anyone from Italy here ?
Hello, Most likely a phishing mail. Please ignore. We will let SgLabs know. Regards. Abdul -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of cfo Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 8:48 AM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Anyone from Italy here ? Hi T-Nuts In january 2012 - I bought a Prologix GPIB interface from an Italian Seller sglabs on the Bay. Today i received a mail from the seller SNIP * I need a favor form you… Here in Italy is requiring by law…. that for all customers that have bought something from us, I need to have also birthplace and birthday… I’m sorry to disturb for this reason, but I need help from you. Thanks for collaboration Best regards SNIP * The mail actually looks quite authentic , Correct name phone# etc. But i have never heard of such a request before. And was wondering if any Italian T-Nut could verify that this request is valid. It seems a bit strange to me ... TIA CFO - Tnut beginner Denmark ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Anyone from Italy here ?
No, Italian law doesn't require DOB or place of birth registering for purchases, I suspect his email has been hi-jacked by someone who's attempting to get into the identity theft business. Dave -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of cfo Sent: 02 May 2012 16:48 To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Anyone from Italy here ? : Here in Italy is requiring by law.. that for all customers that have bought something from us, I need to have also birthplace and birthday. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Anyone from Italy here ?
Sadly; It is currently one of the few growth industries in the EU. Thomas Knox From: david.partri...@perdrix.co.uk To: time-nuts@febo.com Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 17:30:40 +0100 Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Anyone from Italy here ? No, Italian law doesn't require DOB or place of birth registering for purchases, I suspect his email has been hi-jacked by someone who's attempting to get into the identity theft business. Dave -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of cfo Sent: 02 May 2012 16:48 To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Anyone from Italy here ? : Here in Italy is requiring by law.. that for all customers that have bought something from us, I need to have also birthplace and birthday. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Anyone from Italy here ?
Lucky those who don't have to live in the EU!! Rob K (UK) -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Tom Knox Sent: 02 May 2012 17:35 To: Time-Nuts Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Anyone from Italy here ? Sadly; It is currently one of the few growth industries in the EU. Thomas Knox From: david.partri...@perdrix.co.uk To: time-nuts@febo.com Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 17:30:40 +0100 Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Anyone from Italy here ? No, Italian law doesn't require DOB or place of birth registering for purchases, I suspect his email has been hi-jacked by someone who's attempting to get into the identity theft business. Dave -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of cfo Sent: 02 May 2012 16:48 To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Anyone from Italy here ? : Here in Italy is requiring by law.. that for all customers that have bought something from us, I need to have also birthplace and birthday. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Anyone from Italy here ?
It is not much better in the States, Lately I have been thinking about selling my identity to make a little extra money. Thomas Knox From: robkimber...@btinternet.com To: time-nuts@febo.com Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 17:39:29 +0100 Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Anyone from Italy here ? Lucky those who don't have to live in the EU!! Rob K (UK) -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Tom Knox Sent: 02 May 2012 17:35 To: Time-Nuts Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Anyone from Italy here ? Sadly; It is currently one of the few growth industries in the EU. Thomas Knox From: david.partri...@perdrix.co.uk To: time-nuts@febo.com Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 17:30:40 +0100 Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Anyone from Italy here ? No, Italian law doesn't require DOB or place of birth registering for purchases, I suspect his email has been hi-jacked by someone who's attempting to get into the identity theft business. Dave -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of cfo Sent: 02 May 2012 16:48 To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Anyone from Italy here ? : Here in Italy is requiring by law.. that for all customers that have bought something from us, I need to have also birthplace and birthday. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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And as a first step you might want to tell eBay. Contrary to the general impression they do care :^( Dan ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Anyone from Italy here ?
On 5/2/2012 5:47 PM, cfo wrote: The mail actually looks quite authentic , Correct name phone# etc. But i have never heard of such a request before. And was wondering if any Italian T-Nut could verify that this request is valid. It seems a bit strange to me ... I am from Italy, and I can assure you that such info is not required by any Italian law. Don't give away information that could in the end result in an identity thief... I receive daily emails form all over the world, alerting me that I won this and that.. etc and in order to receive my prizes I have to send them such kind of information, together with employer name, phone number, etc. etc. Luckily Mail Washer does all the dirty work for me, and those emails are immediately put where they belong, i.e. the round file :-) 73 Alberto I2PHD ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Anyone from Italy here ?
On Wed, 02 May 2012 09:58:53 -0700, Dan Rae wrote: And as a first step you might want to tell eBay. Contrary to the general impression they do care :^( Dan Done ... Reported to ebay PayPal CFO ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Anyone from Italy here ?
is not impression it is personal experience ebay does not care. Specially when it comes to volume sellers, a seller that time nuts use promised to pay shipping to return crap, gave me a choice give 5 star rating or no refund. Contacted ebay with the evidence, they did nothing and I did not get my money. In a message dated 5/2/2012 1:00:36 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, dan...@verizon.net writes: And as a first step you might want to tell eBay. Contrary to the general impression they do care :^( Dan ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Anyone from Italy here ?
Are they trying to steal your identity? Sounds like a couple of good pieces of info to know! Joe -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of cfo Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 10:48 AM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Anyone from Italy here ? Hi T-Nuts In january 2012 - I bought a Prologix GPIB interface from an Italian Seller sglabs on the Bay. Today i received a mail from the seller SNIP * I need a favor form you… Here in Italy is requiring by law…. that for all customers that have bought something from us, I need to have also birthplace and birthday… I’m sorry to disturb for this reason, but I need help from you. Thanks for collaboration Best regards SNIP * The mail actually looks quite authentic , Correct name phone# etc. But i have never heard of such a request before. And was wondering if any Italian T-Nut could verify that this request is valid. It seems a bit strange to me ... TIA CFO - Tnut beginner Denmark ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Anyone from Italy here ?
Clearly a scam attempt, IMO. You have your stuff. You are not bound by Italian law, unless the EU is worse than I thought. IMO, ignore it, and if the purchase was made through eBay, report it as a phishing attempt. YMMV, -John === Hi T-Nuts In january 2012 - I bought a Prologix GPIB interface from an Italian Seller sglabs on the Bay. Today i received a mail from the seller SNIP * I need a favor form you⦠Here in Italy is requiring by lawâ¦. that for all customers that have bought something from us, I need to have also birthplace and birthday⦠Iâm sorry to disturb for this reason, but I need help from you. Thanks for collaboration Best regards SNIP * The mail actually looks quite authentic , Correct name phone# etc. But i have never heard of such a request before. And was wondering if any Italian T-Nut could verify that this request is valid. It seems a bit strange to me ... TIA CFO - Tnut beginner Denmark ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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On 05/02/2012 07:48 PM, Alberto di Bene wrote: I am from Italy, and I can assure you that such info is not required by any Italian law. Don't give away information that could in the end result in an identity thief... Alberto, I'm not an expert in the ever-changing italian fiscal laws, but as far as I understood recent dispositions (to fight VAT evasion) may require to have the birth date and place for private foreign customers (see spesometro), at least for purchases over a certain amount. Anyway, better to try to contact the seller for clarifications... Regards, Claudio ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Anyone from Italy here ?
Never seen a request like that before... usually they try to get login credentials for home banking, credit cards accounts and the like. Here in Italy, every transaction with the tax authority starts with the VAT ID (our codice fiscale). On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 9:20 PM, J. Forster j...@quikus.com wrote: Clearly a scam attempt, IMO. You have your stuff. You are not bound by Italian law, unless the EU is worse than I thought. IMO, ignore it, and if the purchase was made through eBay, report it as a phishing attempt. YMMV, -John === Hi T-Nuts In january 2012 - I bought a Prologix GPIB interface from an Italian Seller sglabs on the Bay. Today i received a mail from the seller SNIP * I need a favor form you… Here in Italy is requiring by law…. that for all customers that have bought something from us, I need to have also birthplace and birthday… I’m sorry to disturb for this reason, but I need help from you. Thanks for collaboration Best regards SNIP * The mail actually looks quite authentic , Correct name phone# etc. But i have never heard of such a request before. And was wondering if any Italian T-Nut could verify that this request is valid. It seems a bit strange to me ... TIA CFO - Tnut beginner Denmark ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Anyone from Italy here ?
The reason may be trivial. Ask the seller, he is a correct person. Anyway, the birthplace and DOB of a person are very easy to obtain on the web - it would be a stupid scam. But knowing the seller, I'm sure it is not. Being a dealer too, you can't believe the number of fiscal rules we have to obey. Accounting for the sale to a private customer outside Italy may be a nightmare. 73 - Marco IK1ODO ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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Hi Marco, I disagree. This is personal information and is restricted by data protection law in the EU. It is commonly used for financial activity identity checks. I would never give this information to an unknown third party. As an aside, Italy has the greatest lost parcel rate of any country I post to. I don't know why this is but I now send everything to Italy by an insured, signed for service. Robert G8RPI. From: Marco IK1ODO ik1...@spin-it.com To: j...@quikus.com; time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Wednesday, 2 May 2012, 20:50 Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Anyone from Italy here ? The reason may be trivial. Ask the seller, he is a correct person. Anyway, the birthplace and DOB of a person are very easy to obtain on the web - it would be a stupid scam. But knowing the seller, I'm sure it is not. Being a dealer too, you can't believe the number of fiscal rules we have to obey. Accounting for the sale to a private customer outside Italy may be a nightmare. 73 - Marco IK1ODO ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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Privacy protection laws are a sham. Another example of out of control Eurocrats. The laws really offer only the illusion of protection. The servers for any web site can be in Korea or Gurnsey or a Caribean Island where there is no law at all. Furthermore, the only reason someone would ever get prosecuted is if some official decides to crucify you, following the model Romans of deterrance... 'killing a chicken to scare the monkeys'. Good PR, useless in practice if your information is stolen. The only real protection IMO is not to give out anything or shop elsewhere. YMMV, -John = Hi Marco, I disagree. This is personal information and is restricted by data protection law in the EU. It is commonly used for financial activity identity checks. I would never give this information to an unknown third party. As an aside, Italy has the greatest lost parcel rate of any country I post to. I don't know why this is but I now send everything to Italy by an insured, signed for service. Robert G8RPI. From: Marco IK1ODO ik1...@spin-it.com To: j...@quikus.com; time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Wednesday, 2 May 2012, 20:50 Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Anyone from Italy here ? The reason may be trivial. Ask the seller, he is a correct person. Anyway, the birthplace and DOB of a person are very easy to obtain on the web - it would be a stupid scam. But knowing the seller, I'm sure it is not. Being a dealer too, you can't believe the number of fiscal rules we have to obey. Accounting for the sale to a private customer outside Italy may be a nightmare. 73 - Marco IK1ODO ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
