Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather wants to know: How big is your tube?
The 1920x1200 is a 16x10 ration, which seems to be more common that then TV 16x9 ratio that gives you 1920x1080. I remeber one person posting that his computer was TV 16x9 resolution, but most of the wide screen Computer monitors I have seen are actually 16x10. 16x9 computer displays do exist, but seem to be rare in my experience (unless you hook your computer to your TV). My old 1280x1024 CRT died a week ago so I had to get a new monitor on short notice. I went to Frys. I don't remember seeing any CRTs, but I wasn't looking for them. They had ~30 LCDs on display. The ones I was interested in were mostly 23 inch 1920x1080. That seemed to be a sweet spot. (I think the smaller ones were sprinkled around next to PCs. I didn't look much at them. I could easily have missed another sweet spot.) The 1080 comes from HDTV so I expect 1920x1080 will continue to be a sweet spot. -- These are my opinions, not necessarily my employer's. I hate spam. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather wants to know: How big is your tube?
Mark, just ask the system how big the screen is using GetWindowRect():
#include wtypes.h
#include iostream
using namespace std;
// Get the horizontal and vertical screen sizes in pixel
void GetDesktopResolution(int horizontal, int vertical)
{
RECT desktop;
// Get a handle to the desktop window
const HWND hDesktop = GetDesktopWindow();
// Get the size of screen to the variable desktop
GetWindowRect(hDesktop, desktop);
// The top left corner will have coordinates (0,0)
// and the bottom right corner will have coordinates
// (horizontal, vertical)
horizontal = desktop.right;
vertical = desktop.bottom;
}
int main()
{
int horizontal = 0;
int vertical = 0;
GetDesktopResolution(horizontal, vertical);
cout horizontal '\n' vertical '\n';
return 0;
}
Dave
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Subject: [time-nuts] Lady Heather wants to know: How big is your tube?
The next version of Lady Heather has support for some bigger screen sizes.
Unfortunately the graphics library used cannot enter an arbitrary full
screen video mode. It needs to know what the screen res is before it can
set a full screen video mode.
It can create a window of arbitrary size. If the window is smaller than the
screen size, it looks OK. If it is bigger than the native screen size,
the window gets downscaled into an unreadable blob.
The question is what is the maximum full screen resolution of your video
monitor? If there is some consensus on screen sizes in use, I can
optimize the code for maximum natural goodness...
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Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather wants to know: How big is your tube?
Mark, I am running LH on my Lenovo Laptops with their native resolution 1400 x 1050 color 32 bpp and 1600 x 1200 color 32 bpp On my bigger external 19 Eizo screen: 1280 x 1024 (which does seem to be the most often used resolution but laptops do use often higher resolution having smaller screen sizes...) It will be a big challenge to enable all these modern resolutions :-) unfortunately modern LCD/LED screens don't look good set to other resolutions! Bigger monitores on the market are running already 1680 x 1050 1.920 x 1.080 1920 x 1440 and a lot more possible combinations on wide screens... wishing you all the best, Arnold On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 03:50:02 +, Mark Sims wrote: The next version of Lady Heather has support for some bigger screen sizes. Unfortunately the graphics library used cannot enter an arbitrary full screen video mode. It needs to know what the screen res is before it can set a full screen video mode. It can create a window of arbitrary size. If the window is smaller than the screen size, it looks OK. If it is bigger than the native screen size, the window gets downscaled into an unreadable blob. The question is what is the maximum full screen resolution of your video monitor? If there is some consensus on screen sizes in use, I can optimize the code for maximum natural goodness... _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather wants to know: How big is your tube?
1680x1050. Mark Sims hol...@hotmail.com wrote: The next version of Lady Heather has support for some bigger screen sizes. Unfortunately the graphics library used cannot enter an arbitrary full screen video mode. It needs to know what the screen res is before it can set a full screen video mode. It can create a window of arbitrary size. If the window is smaller than the screen size, it looks OK. If it is bigger than the native screen size, the window gets downscaled into an unreadable blob. The question is what is the maximum full screen resolution of your video monitor? If there is some consensus on screen sizes in use, I can optimize the code for maximum natural goodness... __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4509 (20091015) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather wants to know: How big is your tube?
At 11:50 PM 10/14/2009, Mark Sims wrote... The next version of Lady Heather has support for some bigger screen sizes. Unfortunately the graphics library used cannot enter an arbitrary full screen video mode. It needs to know what the screen res is before it can set a full screen video mode. Is this only a compile-time option? Assuming not, why not set some reasonable default that should accommodate the smallest reasonably modern screen (800x480, on some netbooks?), and allow the user to configure their actual value? ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather wants to know: How big is your tube?
Am I missing something? Why not just query the system, and ask it what it knows about the screen in use? Other software tools and utils can do it, I even remember doing it in QuickBasic back in the dark old DOS days, when you were seen as a minor deity if you had anything larger than a 640x480 screen. I'd be extremely surprised if there is no way to determine the screen geometry by a query to some part of the OS, or even the BIOS, if it's the native hardware resolution you need to know. Or is there a reason why LH can't do that? Is her whip not long enough or something? Rgards. Dave B. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] [Time-nuts] Lady Heather wants to know: How big is your tube?
laptop 1024 x 768 netbook 1024 x 600 Dave w2wr Message: 4 Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 03:50:02 + From: Mark Sims hol...@hotmail.com Subject: [time-nuts] Lady Heather wants to know: How big is your tube? To: time-nuts@febo.com Message-ID: blu125-w2494b61e0a7f1c68692bd0ce...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 The next version of Lady Heather has support for some bigger screen sizes. ?Unfortunately the graphics library used cannot enter an arbitrary full screen video mode. ?It needs to know what the screen res is before it can set a full screen video mode. ? It can create a window of arbitrary size. ?If the window is smaller than the screen size, ?it looks OK. ?If it is bigger than the native screen size, ?the window gets downscaled into an unreadable blob. The question is what is the maximum full screen resolution of your video monitor? ? If there is some consensus on screen sizes in use, ?I can optimize the code for maximum natural goodness... _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather wants to know: How big is your tube?
I already posted the simple code to do this assuming a single monitor where the desktop resolution is the same as the monitor. For multi-monitor setups, you are probably best to find out which monitor the heather window is in (use MonitorFromWindow Api to get the handle of the monitor the Heather application is running in), and then use GetMonitorInfo(). For more about this see: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd145071(VS.85).aspx Dave -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Dave Baxter Sent: 15 October 2009 14:27 To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather wants to know: How big is your tube? Am I missing something? Why not just query the system, and ask it what it knows about the screen in use? Other software tools and utils can do it, I even remember doing it in QuickBasic back in the dark old DOS days, when you were seen as a minor deity if you had anything larger than a 640x480 screen. I'd be extremely surprised if there is no way to determine the screen geometry by a query to some part of the OS, or even the BIOS, if it's the native hardware resolution you need to know. Or is there a reason why LH can't do that? Is her whip not long enough or something? Rgards. Dave B. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather wants to know: How big is your tube?
Most common screen resolutions for me: 4x3 aspect ratio: 1280x1024 1600x1200 16x10 aspect ratio 1920x1200 2560x1600 The 1920x1200 is a 16x10 ration, which seems to be more common that then TV 16x9 ratio that gives you 1920x1080. I remeber one person posting that his computer was TV 16x9 resolution, but most of the wide screen Computer monitors I have seen are actually 16x10. 16x9 computer displays do exist, but seem to be rare in my experience (unless you hook your computer to your TV). The 2560x1600 is the normal native resolution of the 30 panels, and this seems to be the largest common computer resolution that most people will see. Larger screens exist, but are not normally consumer friendly. The 30 panels have been getting much cheaper of late though. :) -- Russell ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
[time-nuts] Lady Heather wants to know: How big is your tube?
For some reason Mark hasn't responded yet... I expect he knows how to programatically determine screen size - my assumption, so it's probably wrong... On the other hand, perhaps he's asking for formatting purposes. If everyone is using a 'large' screen, then Lady Heather can be designed to display more information on the 'average' screen real estate without scroll bars or multiple tabs. Jerry ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather wants to know: How big is your tube?
1440x900 1280x1024 Does LH have any support for the Z38xx units? Steve 2009/10/15 Mark Sims hol...@hotmail.com: The next version of Lady Heather has support for some bigger screen sizes. Unfortunately the graphics library used cannot enter an arbitrary full screen video mode. It needs to know what the screen res is before it can set a full screen video mode. It can create a window of arbitrary size. If the window is smaller than the screen size, it looks OK. If it is bigger than the native screen size, the window gets downscaled into an unreadable blob. The question is what is the maximum full screen resolution of your video monitor? If there is some consensus on screen sizes in use, I can optimize the code for maximum natural goodness... _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. -- Steve Rooke - ZL3TUV G8KVD A man with one clock knows what time it is; A man with two clocks is never quite sure. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
[time-nuts] Lady Heather wants to know: How big is your tube?
Nope, just the Trimble units. I looked at adding some Z38xx support, but it will take quite a bit of work... perhaps some day... The architecture of the interface is quite a bit different. Trimble works by outputting a messages automatically, or on request. The response to a query or messages comes in a packet that identifies its content. On the HP units, you send a query and you (hopefully) get back a simple response to the query. You have to wait for that response and hope that it comes. There is no identifying information in the response that says what query it is in response to. Does LH have any support for the Z38xx units? _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather wants to know: How big is your tube?
1280x1024 Lester B Veenstra MØYCM K1YCM .. The question is what is the maximum full screen resolution of your video monitor? If there is some consensus on screen sizes in use, I can optimize the code for maximum natural goodness... 1280x1024. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather wants to know: How big is your tube?
-Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Russell Rezaian Sent: Friday, 16 October 2009 12:52 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather wants to know: How big is your tube? Most common screen resolutions for me: 4x3 aspect ratio: 1280x1024 1600x1200 For square pixels, this first one is actually a 5x4 ratio used commonly in non-widescreen LCDs. CRTs tended to all have 4x3 apect ratios and hence for a horizontal resolution of 1280 the square-pixel correct vertical resolution is 960. Sam. Warning: The information contained in this email and any attached files is confidential to BAE Systems Australia. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, disclosure or copying of this email or any attachments is expressly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately. VIRUS: Every care has been taken to ensure this email and its attachments are virus free, however, any loss or damage incurred in using this email is not the sender's responsibility. It is your responsibility to ensure virus checks are completed before installing any data sent in this email to your computer. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
[time-nuts] Lady Heather wants to know: How big is your tube?
The next version of Lady Heather has support for some bigger screen sizes. Unfortunately the graphics library used cannot enter an arbitrary full screen video mode. It needs to know what the screen res is before it can set a full screen video mode. It can create a window of arbitrary size. If the window is smaller than the screen size, it looks OK. If it is bigger than the native screen size, the window gets downscaled into an unreadable blob. The question is what is the maximum full screen resolution of your video monitor? If there is some consensus on screen sizes in use, I can optimize the code for maximum natural goodness... _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather wants to know: How big is your tube?
At 10:50 PM 10/14/2009, Mark Sims wrote: The question is what is the maximum full screen resolution of your video monitor? If there is some consensus on screen sizes in use, I can optimize the code for maximum natural goodness... 1280x1024. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather wants to know: How big is your tube?
Mark, My screen sizes are 1900x1600 --- 1600x1200 --- 1024x768 BillWB6BNQ Mark Sims wrote: The next version of Lady Heather has support for some bigger screen sizes. Unfortunately the graphics library used cannot enter an arbitrary full screen video mode. It needs to know what the screen res is before it can set a full screen video mode. It can create a window of arbitrary size. If the window is smaller than the screen size, it looks OK. If it is bigger than the native screen size, the window gets downscaled into an unreadable blob. The question is what is the maximum full screen resolution of your video monitor? If there is some consensus on screen sizes in use, I can optimize the code for maximum natural goodness... _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather wants to know: How big is your tube?
Mark, Correct that to read 1920x1200 on the first one. BillWB6BNQ WB6BNQ wrote: Mark, My screen sizes are 1900x1600 --- 1600x1200 --- 1024x768 BillWB6BNQ Mark Sims wrote: The next version of Lady Heather has support for some bigger screen sizes. Unfortunately the graphics library used cannot enter an arbitrary full screen video mode. It needs to know what the screen res is before it can set a full screen video mode. It can create a window of arbitrary size. If the window is smaller than the screen size, it looks OK. If it is bigger than the native screen size, the window gets downscaled into an unreadable blob. The question is what is the maximum full screen resolution of your video monitor? If there is some consensus on screen sizes in use, I can optimize the code for maximum natural goodness... _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather wants to know: How big is your tube?
The next version of Lady Heather has support for some bigger screen sizes. Unfortunately the graphics library used cannot enter an arbitrary full screen video mode. It needs to know what the screen res is before it can set a full screen video mode. It can create a window of arbitrary size. If the window is smaller than the screen size, it looks OK. If it is bigger than the native screen size, the window gets downscaled into an unreadable blob. The question is what is the maximum full screen resolution of your video monitor? ... Keeping in mind that most people don't run LH on their main desktop PC. My desktop is 1600x1200 but the old Compaq laptop I use is 1024x768... -- john ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather wants to know: How big is your tube?
1680x1050, another is 1280x1024, a laptop at 1152x864 another laptop at 1024x768. Mark Sims wrote: The next version of Lady Heather has support for some bigger screen sizes. Unfortunately the graphics library used cannot enter an arbitrary full screen video mode. It needs to know what the screen res is before it can set a full screen video mode. It can create a window of arbitrary size. If the window is smaller than the screen size, it looks OK. If it is bigger than the native screen size, the window gets downscaled into an unreadable blob. The question is what is the maximum full screen resolution of your video monitor? If there is some consensus on screen sizes in use, I can optimize the code for maximum natural goodness... _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather wants to know: How big is your tube?
The question is what is the maximum full screen resolution of your video monitor? If there is some consensus on screen sizes in use, I can optimize the code for maximum natural goodness... There are several good screen sizes. In the old days, the magic numbers were either 1280x1024 or 1024x768. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XGA There were some way older numbers like 800x600 and 640x480. (I'd suggest ignoring them, but if it's easy to support them it might help people who are running LH on really old gear.) In the old days, the aspect ratio was 4:3. With HDTV, the sweet spot on the aspect ratio is shifting to 16:9. That gives a magic number of 1920x1080. Another new magic number is 1440x900, but I don't see how that connects to 16:9. There are probably a couple of other magic numbers I've missed. -- These are my opinions, not necessarily my employer's. I hate spam. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather wants to know: How big is your tube?
Laptop (wide screen) 1280 x 800 Netbook 1024 x 600 Desktops - a. 1024x768 b. 1280x1024 c. 1680x1050 John K1AE -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Mark Sims Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 11:50 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Lady Heather wants to know: How big is your tube? The next version of Lady Heather has support for some bigger screen sizes. Unfortunately the graphics library used cannot enter an arbitrary full screen video mode. It needs to know what the screen res is before it can set a full screen video mode. It can create a window of arbitrary size. If the window is smaller than the screen size, it looks OK. If it is bigger than the native screen size, the window gets downscaled into an unreadable blob. The question is what is the maximum full screen resolution of your video monitor? If there is some consensus on screen sizes in use, I can optimize the code for maximum natural goodness... _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
