Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather without a PC

[Chris Albertson]

You might say that if you need to monitor the performance of the
Thunderbolt at all, maybe "get a life".   The little boxes work just as
well when you are not looking.   But assuming we all are anti-social geeks
who like to look at ADEV plots and the like and worry if our equipment is
to close to a HVAC duct then if you are building software to make those
plots for us geeks, make sure it displays the plot on the device such geeks
are likely to have, that would be a web browser running on a Smart Phone
iPad or notebook.

Cell phones and tablets are how most people today access the internet.
 (yes we've crossed over if you cost unit sales.) If you build a web server
today that can't serve those devices you loose most of the potential
customers.  It is not hard to do. The simplest thing is just use plain old
HTML and let the device format the page how it likes.  Next simplest is to
look at the device and build the page accordingly but that precludes simple
static html pages.

SNMP or what ever, just so long as no one sends GIF images one per second.
 You should send DATA that is rendered on the display device.

Yes, SNMP is complex to implement, but no one needs to do that, just use an
existing implementation net-snmp  It's
free.   Kind of the same with seb servers, no one would implement one
themselves, Apache is free.




On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Didier Juges  wrote:

> I have been looking at SNMP intensively for the last 2 weeks. I came to
> appreciate the warning I saw on one of the first documents I read about it:
> the protocol is simple although the implementation is not :) While I am
> sure you can run a useful subset of SNMP on a small machine, there are much
> simpler protocols to use for something like that. I like the web browser
> client with javascript and Ajax if you need it because every device
> nowadays can run it, and every device is powerful enough to do a decent job
> with it.
> Now, if you feel that you absolutely need to monitor your Thunderbolt with
> your cell phone, I suggest you get a life :)
> My suggestion was mainly based on using a laptop or other "computer", just
> like LadyHeather does not.
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Chris Albertson <
> albertson.ch...@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
> > Sending GIF images is not a good idea for several reasons
> > 1) If the display updates once per second, you'd need to send an entire
> GIF
> > image every second,
> > 2) What if the user has a very small screen, like a cell phone, or he
> has a
> > large screen?  The GIF will either be the wrong size or you need a way to
> > tell the server what size image to make
> > 3) How to zoom and change the image scale?  Again all  the heavy lifting
> > must be dome on the server side
> >
> > THis is backwards.  I'd like the monitor to run on very LOW-END hardware,
> > like a PIC, AVR chip or whatever and hopefully without  even the need to
> > boot an OS.
> >
> > One way to move data from a monior to a display is SNMP
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_Network_Management_Protocol
> > This can be implemented with a very light weight process and not very
> much
> > data moves over the network.   Also display programs that run on the
> > desktop computer already exist.   It is easy to query and plot SNMP data.
> > So makethe Thunderbolt look like an SNMP device.
> >
> > SNMP implements commends that i effect say "get me the temperature data
> for
> > the last N hours." or "set this parameter to this value".   It is exactly
> > what is needed and we don't need to write the client side software.
>  Unless
> > you'd want a custom display.
> >
> > I think the monitor should be able to run on atiny uP, something that
> cost
> > $20 or so and use very little power, under 1W.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 4:30 AM, Didier Juges 
> wrote:
> >
> > > I can imagine creating a screen image as a jpeg and making it available
> > > via the web server.
> > >
> > > I have done that before for something else (a headless device.)
> > >
> > > Didier KO4BB
> > >
> > > Chris Albertson  wrote:
> > > >On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 10:11 PM, Eric Williams 
> > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Would be nice if someone did a Linux port of LH that could run on a
> > > >> Raspberry Pi or something, then you could embed it into your T-Bolt
> > > >> installation.  Plug in a HDMI monitor if you want to look at it all
> > > >the
> > > >> time, or come in remotely via Ethernet.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >No, the display capability  needs to be removed from the  the
> software.
> > > > A
> > > >ported LH would just put the data someplace.  A second program could
> > > >create
> > > >plots and it could run on a different computer.   Getting rid of the
> > > >display would make the porting go faster and no tie you to some
> > > >specific
> > > >platform.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >--
> > > >
> > > >Chris Albertson
> > > >Redondo Beach, California
> > > >_

Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather without a PC

[Didier Juges]

I have been looking at SNMP intensively for the last 2 weeks. I came to
appreciate the warning I saw on one of the first documents I read about it:
the protocol is simple although the implementation is not :) While I am
sure you can run a useful subset of SNMP on a small machine, there are much
simpler protocols to use for something like that. I like the web browser
client with javascript and Ajax if you need it because every device
nowadays can run it, and every device is powerful enough to do a decent job
with it.
Now, if you feel that you absolutely need to monitor your Thunderbolt with
your cell phone, I suggest you get a life :)
My suggestion was mainly based on using a laptop or other "computer", just
like LadyHeather does not.


On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Chris Albertson  wrote:

> Sending GIF images is not a good idea for several reasons
> 1) If the display updates once per second, you'd need to send an entire GIF
> image every second,
> 2) What if the user has a very small screen, like a cell phone, or he has a
> large screen?  The GIF will either be the wrong size or you need a way to
> tell the server what size image to make
> 3) How to zoom and change the image scale?  Again all  the heavy lifting
> must be dome on the server side
>
> THis is backwards.  I'd like the monitor to run on very LOW-END hardware,
> like a PIC, AVR chip or whatever and hopefully without  even the need to
> boot an OS.
>
> One way to move data from a monior to a display is SNMP
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_Network_Management_Protocol
> This can be implemented with a very light weight process and not very much
> data moves over the network.   Also display programs that run on the
> desktop computer already exist.   It is easy to query and plot SNMP data.
> So makethe Thunderbolt look like an SNMP device.
>
> SNMP implements commends that i effect say "get me the temperature data for
> the last N hours." or "set this parameter to this value".   It is exactly
> what is needed and we don't need to write the client side software.  Unless
> you'd want a custom display.
>
> I think the monitor should be able to run on atiny uP, something that cost
> $20 or so and use very little power, under 1W.
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 4:30 AM, Didier Juges  wrote:
>
> > I can imagine creating a screen image as a jpeg and making it available
> > via the web server.
> >
> > I have done that before for something else (a headless device.)
> >
> > Didier KO4BB
> >
> > Chris Albertson  wrote:
> > >On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 10:11 PM, Eric Williams 
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > >> Would be nice if someone did a Linux port of LH that could run on a
> > >> Raspberry Pi or something, then you could embed it into your T-Bolt
> > >> installation.  Plug in a HDMI monitor if you want to look at it all
> > >the
> > >> time, or come in remotely via Ethernet.
> > >
> > >
> > >No, the display capability  needs to be removed from the  the software.
> > > A
> > >ported LH would just put the data someplace.  A second program could
> > >create
> > >plots and it could run on a different computer.   Getting rid of the
> > >display would make the porting go faster and no tie you to some
> > >specific
> > >platform.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >--
> > >
> > >Chris Albertson
> > >Redondo Beach, California
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Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather without a PC

[Chris Albertson]

Sending GIF images is not a good idea for several reasons
1) If the display updates once per second, you'd need to send an entire GIF
image every second,
2) What if the user has a very small screen, like a cell phone, or he has a
large screen?  The GIF will either be the wrong size or you need a way to
tell the server what size image to make
3) How to zoom and change the image scale?  Again all  the heavy lifting
must be dome on the server side

THis is backwards.  I'd like the monitor to run on very LOW-END hardware,
like a PIC, AVR chip or whatever and hopefully without  even the need to
boot an OS.

One way to move data from a monior to a display is SNMP
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_Network_Management_Protocol
This can be implemented with a very light weight process and not very much
data moves over the network.   Also display programs that run on the
desktop computer already exist.   It is easy to query and plot SNMP data.
So makethe Thunderbolt look like an SNMP device.

SNMP implements commends that i effect say "get me the temperature data for
the last N hours." or "set this parameter to this value".   It is exactly
what is needed and we don't need to write the client side software.  Unless
you'd want a custom display.

I think the monitor should be able to run on atiny uP, something that cost
$20 or so and use very little power, under 1W.


On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 4:30 AM, Didier Juges  wrote:

> I can imagine creating a screen image as a jpeg and making it available
> via the web server.
>
> I have done that before for something else (a headless device.)
>
> Didier KO4BB
>
> Chris Albertson  wrote:
> >On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 10:11 PM, Eric Williams 
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Would be nice if someone did a Linux port of LH that could run on a
> >> Raspberry Pi or something, then you could embed it into your T-Bolt
> >> installation.  Plug in a HDMI monitor if you want to look at it all
> >the
> >> time, or come in remotely via Ethernet.
> >
> >
> >No, the display capability  needs to be removed from the  the software.
> > A
> >ported LH would just put the data someplace.  A second program could
> >create
> >plots and it could run on a different computer.   Getting rid of the
> >display would make the porting go faster and no tie you to some
> >specific
> >platform.
> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >
> >Chris Albertson
> >Redondo Beach, California
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Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather without a PC

[Didier Juges]

I can imagine creating a screen image as a jpeg and making it available via the 
web server.

I have done that before for something else (a headless device.)

Didier KO4BB

Chris Albertson  wrote:
>On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 10:11 PM, Eric Williams 
>wrote:
>
>> Would be nice if someone did a Linux port of LH that could run on a
>> Raspberry Pi or something, then you could embed it into your T-Bolt
>> installation.  Plug in a HDMI monitor if you want to look at it all
>the
>> time, or come in remotely via Ethernet.
>
>
>No, the display capability  needs to be removed from the  the software.
> A
>ported LH would just put the data someplace.  A second program could
>create
>plots and it could run on a different computer.   Getting rid of the
>display would make the porting go faster and no tie you to some
>specific
>platform.
>
>
>
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Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather without a PC

[Chris Albertson]

On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 10:11 PM, Eric Williams  wrote:

> Would be nice if someone did a Linux port of LH that could run on a
> Raspberry Pi or something, then you could embed it into your T-Bolt
> installation.  Plug in a HDMI monitor if you want to look at it all the
> time, or come in remotely via Ethernet.


No, the display capability  needs to be removed from the  the software.  A
ported LH would just put the data someplace.  A second program could create
plots and it could run on a different computer.   Getting rid of the
display would make the porting go faster and no tie you to some specific
platform.



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Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather without a PC

[Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX]

LH installs and runs fine under WINE.
WINE can map a real serial port or a USB serial converter
to COMx.


On 08/18/2013 10:11 PM, Eric Williams wrote:

Would be nice if someone did a Linux port of LH that could run on a
Raspberry Pi or something, then you could embed it into your T-Bolt
installation.  Plug in a HDMI monitor if you want to look at it all the
time, or come in remotely via Ethernet.
--
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On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Chris Albertson
wrote:


On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Didier Juges  wrote:


Go up about 7 or 8 messages.
It is not a version of Lady Heather for the PocketPC, it is a monitor
software for the Thunderbolt that runs on certain PocketPC (those like

the

iPaq that have a hardweare serial port). It is very far from the extended
functionality of Lady Heather, but useful as a health indicator.


Got a link to the source, it could serve as a start

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Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather without a PC

[Eric Williams]

Would be nice if someone did a Linux port of LH that could run on a
Raspberry Pi or something, then you could embed it into your T-Bolt
installation.  Plug in a HDMI monitor if you want to look at it all the
time, or come in remotely via Ethernet.
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On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Chris Albertson
wrote:

> On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Didier Juges  wrote:
>
> > Go up about 7 or 8 messages.
> > It is not a version of Lady Heather for the PocketPC, it is a monitor
> > software for the Thunderbolt that runs on certain PocketPC (those like
> the
> > iPaq that have a hardweare serial port). It is very far from the extended
> > functionality of Lady Heather, but useful as a health indicator.
>
>
> Got a link to the source, it could serve as a start
>
> --
>
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> Redondo Beach, California
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Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather without a PC

[Chris Albertson]

On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Didier Juges  wrote:

> Go up about 7 or 8 messages.
> It is not a version of Lady Heather for the PocketPC, it is a monitor
> software for the Thunderbolt that runs on certain PocketPC (those like the
> iPaq that have a hardweare serial port). It is very far from the extended
> functionality of Lady Heather, but useful as a health indicator.


Got a link to the source, it could serve as a start

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Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather without a PC

[Didier Juges]

Go up about 7 or 8 messages.
It is not a version of Lady Heather for the PocketPC, it is a monitor
software for the Thunderbolt that runs on certain PocketPC (those like the
iPaq that have a hardweare serial port). It is very far from the extended
functionality of Lady Heather, but useful as a health indicator.


On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Jerry  wrote:

> Where is the software download for the PocketPC version of Lady Heather?
>
> Tia
> Jerry
> K1JOS
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Didier [mailto:shali...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2013 23:30
> To: Robert Atkinson; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather without a PC
>
> Does the iPAQ have a serial port? I have a Dell PDA that runs Pocket
> PC2003 with WiFi and Bluetooth but no serial port.
>
> Didier
>
>
> Robert Atkinson  wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >This is not my software. See
> >http://fuzzythinking.com/projects/thunderhead/
> >I just used the complied file, but the source code is there of you want
> >
> >to change it. The iPAQ I built in was an H2200 series running PocketPC
> >2002. I've also ran it on a H3900 series (H3950) running PocketPC 2003.
> >I used an SD card to store the exe file.  A quick check on ebay shows
> >2200 iPAQs on buy it now for $25.
> >
> >Robert G8RPI.
> >
> >
> > From: Chris Albertson 
> >To: Robert Atkinson ; Discussion of precise
> >time and frequency measurement 
> >Sent: Friday, 16 August 2013, 19:44
> >Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather without a PC
> >
> >
> >
> >What OS runs on the IPAQ?
> >
> >Did you have to re-build LH from source?
> >
> >Edit:  OK now I see you are running some other software called
> >"thunderhead".   Same questions apply
> >
> >
> >
> >On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Robert Atkinson
> > wrote:
> >
> >Hi Chris,
> >>I've posted this before, but it's worth saying again. I use the
> >PocketPC version of Lady Heather on an IPAQ. These are available for
> >next to nothing on Ebay and can run in a dock on the bench or you can
> >gut it and embed it in a cased Thunderbolt. worn out batteries are not
> >an issue as we have constant power available. They just need 5V. One
> >with an SD card slot is good so you don't have to re-load the code from
> >a PC if the power does go out.
> >>
> >>
> >>Robert G8RPI.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Chris Albertson 
> >>To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
> >
> >>Sent: Wednesday, 14 August 2013, 18:36
> >>Subject: Re: [time-nuts] ThunderBolt Display
> >>
> >>
> >>What was the problem you found.  Other then a "new to you" platform?
> >I'm
> >>trying to understand why reading serial data would be hard.
> >>
> >>An advantage of the Adruino is that you don't need to make a PCB.
> >Even if
> >>you want to do something like add a graphical display or and SD card
> >for
> >>logging they just plug in, no solder required.
> >>
> >>Of course the pre-buillt display is even easier but can't be modified.
> >>
> >>One of my loner term goals is to move lady heather like functions onto
> >a
> >>small uP based device.  It seems wasteful to use a PC for this.
> >>
> >>
> >>On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Russ Ramirez
> >wrote:
> >>
> >>> Yeah, after trying to (reliably) get the time out of the pertinent
> >TSIP
> >>> message using an Arduino UNO, I can understand your statement Adam
> >about
> >>> the Arduino approach. It kinda works, but it felt like I was
> >fighting the
> >>> implementation of the controller card and that I should cut-over to
> >my own
> >>> solution using an Atmel, PIC or TI chip that I could just load C
> >code into.
> >>> One of this lists members gave me the code I needed, so ironically
> >using
> >>> the UNO made the project more difficult.
> >>>
> >>> Russ
> >>> K0WFS
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Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather without a PC

[Chris Albertson]

On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Jerry  wrote:

> Where is the software download for the PocketPC version of Lady Heather?
>



I think you'd be starting with the source code and building for the
specific platform.

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Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather without a PC

[Jerry]

Where is the software download for the PocketPC version of Lady Heather?

Tia
Jerry
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-Original Message-
From: Didier [mailto:shali...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2013 23:30
To: Robert Atkinson; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather without a PC

Does the iPAQ have a serial port? I have a Dell PDA that runs Pocket PC2003 
with WiFi and Bluetooth but no serial port.

Didier


Robert Atkinson  wrote:
>Hi,
>
>This is not my software. See
>http://fuzzythinking.com/projects/thunderhead/
>I just used the complied file, but the source code is there of you want
>
>to change it. The iPAQ I built in was an H2200 series running PocketPC 
>2002. I've also ran it on a H3900 series (H3950) running PocketPC 2003.
>I used an SD card to store the exe file.  A quick check on ebay shows
>2200 iPAQs on buy it now for $25. 
>
>Robert G8RPI.
>
>
> From: Chris Albertson 
>To: Robert Atkinson ; Discussion of precise 
>time and frequency measurement 
>Sent: Friday, 16 August 2013, 19:44
>Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather without a PC
> 
>
>
>What OS runs on the IPAQ?  
>
>Did you have to re-build LH from source?
>
>Edit:  OK now I see you are running some other software called 
>"thunderhead".   Same questions apply
>
>
>
>On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Robert Atkinson 
> wrote:
>
>Hi Chris,
>>I've posted this before, but it's worth saying again. I use the
>PocketPC version of Lady Heather on an IPAQ. These are available for 
>next to nothing on Ebay and can run in a dock on the bench or you can 
>gut it and embed it in a cased Thunderbolt. worn out batteries are not 
>an issue as we have constant power available. They just need 5V. One 
>with an SD card slot is good so you don't have to re-load the code from 
>a PC if the power does go out.
>>
>>
>>Robert G8RPI.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Chris Albertson 
>>To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
>
>>Sent: Wednesday, 14 August 2013, 18:36
>>Subject: Re: [time-nuts] ThunderBolt Display
>>
>>
>>What was the problem you found.  Other then a "new to you" platform? 
>I'm
>>trying to understand why reading serial data would be hard.
>>
>>An advantage of the Adruino is that you don't need to make a PCB. 
>Even if
>>you want to do something like add a graphical display or and SD card
>for
>>logging they just plug in, no solder required.
>>
>>Of course the pre-buillt display is even easier but can't be modified.
>>
>>One of my loner term goals is to move lady heather like functions onto
>a
>>small uP based device.  It seems wasteful to use a PC for this.
>>
>>
>>On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Russ Ramirez
>wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, after trying to (reliably) get the time out of the pertinent
>TSIP
>>> message using an Arduino UNO, I can understand your statement Adam
>about
>>> the Arduino approach. It kinda works, but it felt like I was
>fighting the
>>> implementation of the controller card and that I should cut-over to
>my own
>>> solution using an Atmel, PIC or TI chip that I could just load C
>code into.
>>> One of this lists members gave me the code I needed, so ironically
>using
>>> the UNO made the project more difficult.
>>>
>>> Russ
>>> K0WFS
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Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather without a PC

[Didier]

I do have a desktop IPAQ. It runs Windows Embedded on ARM (at least, this one 
does)

Didfier

Bob Camp  wrote:
>Hi
>
>There are two products called IPAQ. One was a desktop computer, the
>other was a PDA. The desktop will run anything, the PDA can handle some
>of the BSD's and Linux's. Both need to be configured  / compiled to
>match the device. 
>
>Bob
>
>On Aug 16, 2013, at 2:44 PM, Chris Albertson
> wrote:
>
>> What OS runs on the IPAQ?
>> 
>> Did you have to re-build LH from source?
>> 
>> Edit:  OK now I see you are running some other software called
>> "thunderhead".   Same questions apply
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Robert Atkinson
>wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Chris,
>>> I've posted this before, but it's worth saying again. I use the
>PocketPC
>>> version of Lady Heather on an IPAQ. These are available for next to
>nothing
>>> on Ebay and can run in a dock on the bench or you can gut it and
>embed it
>>> in a cased Thunderbolt. worn out batteries are not an issue as we
>have
>>> constant power available. They just need 5V. One with an SD card
>slot is
>>> good so you don't have to re-load the code from a PC if the power
>does go
>>> out.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Robert G8RPI.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Chris Albertson 
>>> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <
>>> time-nuts@febo.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, 14 August 2013, 18:36
>>> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] ThunderBolt Display
>>> 
>>> 
>>> What was the problem you found.  Other then a "new to you" platform?
> I'm
>>> trying to understand why reading serial data would be hard.
>>> 
>>> An advantage of the Adruino is that you don't need to make a PCB. 
>Even if
>>> you want to do something like add a graphical display or and SD card
>for
>>> logging they just plug in, no solder required.
>>> 
>>> Of course the pre-buillt display is even easier but can't be
>modified.
>>> 
>>> One of my loner term goals is to move lady heather like functions
>onto a
>>> small uP based device.  It seems wasteful to use a PC for this.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Russ Ramirez
 wrote:
>>> 
 Yeah, after trying to (reliably) get the time out of the pertinent
>TSIP
 message using an Arduino UNO, I can understand your statement Adam
>about
 the Arduino approach. It kinda works, but it felt like I was
>fighting the
 implementation of the controller card and that I should cut-over to
>my
>>> own
 solution using an Atmel, PIC or TI chip that I could just load C
>code
>>> into.
 One of this lists members gave me the code I needed, so ironically
>using
 the UNO made the project more difficult.
 
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>>> 
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Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather without a PC

[Didier]

Does the iPAQ have a serial port? I have a Dell PDA that runs Pocket PC2003 
with WiFi and Bluetooth but no serial port.

Didier


Robert Atkinson  wrote:
>Hi,
>
>This is not my software. See
>http://fuzzythinking.com/projects/thunderhead/
>I just used the complied file, but the source code is there of you want
>
>to change it. The iPAQ I built in was an H2200 series running PocketPC 
>2002. I've also ran it on a H3900 series (H3950) running PocketPC 2003.
>I used an SD card to store the exe file.  A quick check on ebay shows 
>2200 iPAQs on buy it now for $25. 
>
>Robert G8RPI.
>
>
> From: Chris Albertson 
>To: Robert Atkinson ; Discussion of precise
>time and frequency measurement  
>Sent: Friday, 16 August 2013, 19:44
>Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather without a PC
> 
>
>
>What OS runs on the IPAQ?  
>
>Did you have to re-build LH from source?
>
>Edit:  OK now I see you are running some other software called
>"thunderhead".   Same questions apply
>
>
>
>On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Robert Atkinson
> wrote:
>
>Hi Chris,
>>I've posted this before, but it's worth saying again. I use the
>PocketPC version of Lady Heather on an IPAQ. These are available for
>next to nothing on Ebay and can run in a dock on the bench or you can
>gut it and embed it in a cased Thunderbolt. worn out batteries are not
>an issue as we have constant power available. They just need 5V. One
>with an SD card slot is good so you don't have to re-load the code from
>a PC if the power does go out.
>>
>>
>>Robert G8RPI.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Chris Albertson 
>>To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
>
>>Sent: Wednesday, 14 August 2013, 18:36
>>Subject: Re: [time-nuts] ThunderBolt Display
>>
>>
>>What was the problem you found.  Other then a "new to you" platform? 
>I'm
>>trying to understand why reading serial data would be hard.
>>
>>An advantage of the Adruino is that you don't need to make a PCB. 
>Even if
>>you want to do something like add a graphical display or and SD card
>for
>>logging they just plug in, no solder required.
>>
>>Of course the pre-buillt display is even easier but can't be modified.
>>
>>One of my loner term goals is to move lady heather like functions onto
>a
>>small uP based device.  It seems wasteful to use a PC for this.
>>
>>
>>On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Russ Ramirez
>wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, after trying to (reliably) get the time out of the pertinent
>TSIP
>>> message using an Arduino UNO, I can understand your statement Adam
>about
>>> the Arduino approach. It kinda works, but it felt like I was
>fighting the
>>> implementation of the controller card and that I should cut-over to
>my own
>>> solution using an Atmel, PIC or TI chip that I could just load C
>code into.
>>> One of this lists members gave me the code I needed, so ironically
>using
>>> the UNO made the project more difficult.
>>>
>>> Russ
>>> K0WFS
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>>
>>
>>
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Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather without a PC

[Chris Albertson]

Yes, that was my question, Which did you use, were you able to build LH or
Thunderhead for run on the PDA?   If so which OS?


On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Bob Camp  wrote:

> Hi
>
> There are two products called IPAQ. One was a desktop computer, the other
> was a PDA. The desktop will run anything, the PDA can handle some of the
> BSD's and Linux's. Both need to be configured  / compiled to match the
> device.
>
> Bob
>
> On Aug 16, 2013, at 2:44 PM, Chris Albertson 
> wrote:
>
> > What OS runs on the IPAQ?
> >
> > Did you have to re-build LH from source?
> >
> > Edit:  OK now I see you are running some other software called
> > "thunderhead".   Same questions apply
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Robert Atkinson  >wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Chris,
> >> I've posted this before, but it's worth saying again. I use the PocketPC
> >> version of Lady Heather on an IPAQ. These are available for next to
> nothing
> >> on Ebay and can run in a dock on the bench or you can gut it and embed
> it
> >> in a cased Thunderbolt. worn out batteries are not an issue as we have
> >> constant power available. They just need 5V. One with an SD card slot is
> >> good so you don't have to re-load the code from a PC if the power does
> go
> >> out.
> >>
> >>
> >> Robert G8RPI.
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> >> From: Chris Albertson 
> >> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <
> >> time-nuts@febo.com>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, 14 August 2013, 18:36
> >> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] ThunderBolt Display
> >>
> >>
> >> What was the problem you found.  Other then a "new to you" platform?
>  I'm
> >> trying to understand why reading serial data would be hard.
> >>
> >> An advantage of the Adruino is that you don't need to make a PCB.  Even
> if
> >> you want to do something like add a graphical display or and SD card for
> >> logging they just plug in, no solder required.
> >>
> >> Of course the pre-buillt display is even easier but can't be modified.
> >>
> >> One of my loner term goals is to move lady heather like functions onto a
> >> small uP based device.  It seems wasteful to use a PC for this.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Russ Ramirez  >>> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Yeah, after trying to (reliably) get the time out of the pertinent TSIP
> >>> message using an Arduino UNO, I can understand your statement Adam
> about
> >>> the Arduino approach. It kinda works, but it felt like I was fighting
> the
> >>> implementation of the controller card and that I should cut-over to my
> >> own
> >>> solution using an Atmel, PIC or TI chip that I could just load C code
> >> into.
> >>> One of this lists members gave me the code I needed, so ironically
> using
> >>> the UNO made the project more difficult.
> >>>
> >>> Russ
> >>> K0WFS
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> >>
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Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather without a PC

[Robert Atkinson]

Hi,

This is not my software. See http://fuzzythinking.com/projects/thunderhead/
I just used the complied file, but the source code is there of you want 
to change it. The iPAQ I built in was an H2200 series running PocketPC 
2002. I've also ran it on a H3900 series (H3950) running PocketPC 2003. I used 
an SD card to store the exe file.  A quick check on ebay shows 
2200 iPAQs on buy it now for $25. 

Robert G8RPI.


 From: Chris Albertson 
To: Robert Atkinson ; Discussion of precise time and 
frequency measurement  
Sent: Friday, 16 August 2013, 19:44
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather without a PC
 


What OS runs on the IPAQ?  

Did you have to re-build LH from source?

Edit:  OK now I see you are running some other software called "thunderhead".   
Same questions apply



On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Robert Atkinson  wrote:

Hi Chris,
>I've posted this before, but it's worth saying again. I use the PocketPC 
>version of Lady Heather on an IPAQ. These are available for next to nothing on 
>Ebay and can run in a dock on the bench or you can gut it and embed it in a 
>cased Thunderbolt. worn out batteries are not an issue as we have constant 
>power available. They just need 5V. One with an SD card slot is good so you 
>don't have to re-load the code from a PC if the power does go out.
>
>
>Robert G8RPI.
>
>
>
> From: Chris Albertson 
>To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement 
>Sent: Wednesday, 14 August 2013, 18:36
>Subject: Re: [time-nuts] ThunderBolt Display
>
>
>What was the problem you found.  Other then a "new to you" platform?  I'm
>trying to understand why reading serial data would be hard.
>
>An advantage of the Adruino is that you don't need to make a PCB.  Even if
>you want to do something like add a graphical display or and SD card for
>logging they just plug in, no solder required.
>
>Of course the pre-buillt display is even easier but can't be modified.
>
>One of my loner term goals is to move lady heather like functions onto a
>small uP based device.  It seems wasteful to use a PC for this.
>
>
>On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Russ Ramirez wrote:
>
>> Yeah, after trying to (reliably) get the time out of the pertinent TSIP
>> message using an Arduino UNO, I can understand your statement Adam about
>> the Arduino approach. It kinda works, but it felt like I was fighting the
>> implementation of the controller card and that I should cut-over to my own
>> solution using an Atmel, PIC or TI chip that I could just load C code into.
>> One of this lists members gave me the code I needed, so ironically using
>> the UNO made the project more difficult.
>>
>> Russ
>> K0WFS
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>
>
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Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather without a PC

[Bob Camp]

Hi

There are two products called IPAQ. One was a desktop computer, the other was a 
PDA. The desktop will run anything, the PDA can handle some of the BSD's and 
Linux's. Both need to be configured  / compiled to match the device. 

Bob

On Aug 16, 2013, at 2:44 PM, Chris Albertson  wrote:

> What OS runs on the IPAQ?
> 
> Did you have to re-build LH from source?
> 
> Edit:  OK now I see you are running some other software called
> "thunderhead".   Same questions apply
> 
> 
> On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Robert Atkinson 
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Chris,
>> I've posted this before, but it's worth saying again. I use the PocketPC
>> version of Lady Heather on an IPAQ. These are available for next to nothing
>> on Ebay and can run in a dock on the bench or you can gut it and embed it
>> in a cased Thunderbolt. worn out batteries are not an issue as we have
>> constant power available. They just need 5V. One with an SD card slot is
>> good so you don't have to re-load the code from a PC if the power does go
>> out.
>> 
>> 
>> Robert G8RPI.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Chris Albertson 
>> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <
>> time-nuts@febo.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, 14 August 2013, 18:36
>> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] ThunderBolt Display
>> 
>> 
>> What was the problem you found.  Other then a "new to you" platform?  I'm
>> trying to understand why reading serial data would be hard.
>> 
>> An advantage of the Adruino is that you don't need to make a PCB.  Even if
>> you want to do something like add a graphical display or and SD card for
>> logging they just plug in, no solder required.
>> 
>> Of course the pre-buillt display is even easier but can't be modified.
>> 
>> One of my loner term goals is to move lady heather like functions onto a
>> small uP based device.  It seems wasteful to use a PC for this.
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Russ Ramirez >> wrote:
>> 
>>> Yeah, after trying to (reliably) get the time out of the pertinent TSIP
>>> message using an Arduino UNO, I can understand your statement Adam about
>>> the Arduino approach. It kinda works, but it felt like I was fighting the
>>> implementation of the controller card and that I should cut-over to my
>> own
>>> solution using an Atmel, PIC or TI chip that I could just load C code
>> into.
>>> One of this lists members gave me the code I needed, so ironically using
>>> the UNO made the project more difficult.
>>> 
>>> Russ
>>> K0WFS
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>> 
>> 
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Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather without a PC

[Chris Albertson]

What OS runs on the IPAQ?

Did you have to re-build LH from source?

Edit:  OK now I see you are running some other software called
"thunderhead".   Same questions apply


On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Robert Atkinson wrote:

> Hi Chris,
> I've posted this before, but it's worth saying again. I use the PocketPC
> version of Lady Heather on an IPAQ. These are available for next to nothing
> on Ebay and can run in a dock on the bench or you can gut it and embed it
> in a cased Thunderbolt. worn out batteries are not an issue as we have
> constant power available. They just need 5V. One with an SD card slot is
> good so you don't have to re-load the code from a PC if the power does go
> out.
>
>
> Robert G8RPI.
>
>
> 
>  From: Chris Albertson 
> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <
> time-nuts@febo.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, 14 August 2013, 18:36
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] ThunderBolt Display
>
>
> What was the problem you found.  Other then a "new to you" platform?  I'm
> trying to understand why reading serial data would be hard.
>
> An advantage of the Adruino is that you don't need to make a PCB.  Even if
> you want to do something like add a graphical display or and SD card for
> logging they just plug in, no solder required.
>
> Of course the pre-buillt display is even easier but can't be modified.
>
> One of my loner term goals is to move lady heather like functions onto a
> small uP based device.  It seems wasteful to use a PC for this.
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Russ Ramirez  >wrote:
>
> > Yeah, after trying to (reliably) get the time out of the pertinent TSIP
> > message using an Arduino UNO, I can understand your statement Adam about
> > the Arduino approach. It kinda works, but it felt like I was fighting the
> > implementation of the controller card and that I should cut-over to my
> own
> > solution using an Atmel, PIC or TI chip that I could just load C code
> into.
> > One of this lists members gave me the code I needed, so ironically using
> > the UNO made the project more difficult.
> >
> > Russ
> > K0WFS
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Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather without a PC

[Robert Atkinson]

Sorry to reply to my own post. 
I was wrong on the name of the PocketPC software. It's called Thunderhead see 
http://fuzzythinking.com/projects/thunderhead/

Robert G8RPI.



 From: Robert Atkinson 
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement  
Sent: Thursday, 15 August 2013, 21:17
Subject: [time-nuts] Lady Heather without a PC
 

Hi Chris,
I've posted this before, but it's worth saying again. I use the PocketPC 
version of Lady Heather on an IPAQ. These are available for next to nothing on 
Ebay and can run in a dock on the bench or you can gut it and embed it in a 
cased Thunderbolt. worn out batteries are not an issue as we have constant 
power available. They just need 5V. One with an SD card slot is good so you 
don't have to re-load the code from a PC if the power does go out.


Robert G8RPI.



From: Chris Albertson 
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement  
Sent: Wednesday, 14 August 2013, 18:36
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] ThunderBolt Display


What was the problem you found.  Other then a "new to you" platform?  I'm
trying to understand why reading serial data would be hard.

An advantage of the Adruino is that you don't need to make a PCB.  Even if
you want to do something like add a graphical display or and SD card for
logging they just plug in, no solder required.

Of course the pre-buillt display is even easier but can't be modified.

One of my loner term goals is to move lady heather like functions onto a
small uP based device.  It seems wasteful to use a PC for this.


On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Russ Ramirez wrote:

> Yeah, after trying to (reliably) get the time out of the pertinent TSIP
> message using an Arduino UNO, I can understand your statement Adam about
> the Arduino approach. It kinda works, but it felt like I was fighting the
> implementation of the controller card and that I should cut-over to my own
> solution using an Atmel, PIC or TI chip that I could just load C code into.
> One of this lists members gave me the code I needed, so ironically using
> the UNO made the project more difficult.
>
> Russ
> K0WFS
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[time-nuts] Lady Heather without a PC

[Robert Atkinson]

Hi Chris,
I've posted this before, but it's worth saying again. I use the PocketPC 
version of Lady Heather on an IPAQ. These are available for next to nothing on 
Ebay and can run in a dock on the bench or you can gut it and embed it in a 
cased Thunderbolt. worn out batteries are not an issue as we have constant 
power available. They just need 5V. One with an SD card slot is good so you 
don't have to re-load the code from a PC if the power does go out.


Robert G8RPI.



 From: Chris Albertson 
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement  
Sent: Wednesday, 14 August 2013, 18:36
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] ThunderBolt Display
 

What was the problem you found.  Other then a "new to you" platform?  I'm
trying to understand why reading serial data would be hard.

An advantage of the Adruino is that you don't need to make a PCB.  Even if
you want to do something like add a graphical display or and SD card for
logging they just plug in, no solder required.

Of course the pre-buillt display is even easier but can't be modified.

One of my loner term goals is to move lady heather like functions onto a
small uP based device.  It seems wasteful to use a PC for this.


On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Russ Ramirez wrote:

> Yeah, after trying to (reliably) get the time out of the pertinent TSIP
> message using an Arduino UNO, I can understand your statement Adam about
> the Arduino approach. It kinda works, but it felt like I was fighting the
> implementation of the controller card and that I should cut-over to my own
> solution using an Atmel, PIC or TI chip that I could just load C code into.
> One of this lists members gave me the code I needed, so ironically using
> the UNO made the project more difficult.
>
> Russ
> K0WFS
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