Re: [time-nuts] Ublox 7
On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 1:26 AM, David J Taylor david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: You can also get the u-blox 7 without the antenna - for example this pre-built unit for the Raspberry Pi, which has an SMA socket: I suspect that even if the target system is a Raspberry PI the critical point is the $17 price (including shipping). ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Ublox 7
From: Paul I suspect that even if the target system is a Raspberry PI the critical point is the $17 price (including shipping). For precise time frequency, I am surprised that cost is the first consideration, unless you are buying more than a few units! Especially if you weigh the effort required to remove the unwanted antenna. Oh, well! David -- SatSignal Software - Quality software written to your requirements Web: http://www.satsignal.eu Email: david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
[time-nuts] Ublox 7
Having used lately ublox 6M for GPSDO work I decided to buy a couple of MAX 7C's on ebay for $ 16.00 181293242043 Super results. We are going to do some saw tooth analysis but most likely will not post them because the deterioration of the list has resulted in many on the real time nuts have gone away and do like we do every thing off list since this has deteriorated in to a chat room with the majority of the listings not time or frequency related. Serious time nuts can contact me off list and maybe be added to the group. We are doing some neat projects. Bert Kehren ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Ublox 7
On 5/24/2014 7:22 AM, ewkeh...@aol.com wrote: Having used lately ublox 6M for GPSDO work I decided to buy a couple of MAX 7C's on ebay for $ 16.00 181293242043 Super results. Now listed as: 171339542977 Dan ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Ublox 7
Sorry to lose you, Bert. Evidently a new exclusive group is just what you need. Don ewkeh...@aol.com Having used lately ublox 6M for GPSDO work I decided to buy a couple of MAX 7C's on ebay for $ 16.00 181293242043 Super results. We are going to do some saw tooth analysis but most likely will not post them because the deterioration of the list has resulted in many on the real time nuts have gone away and do like we do every thing off list since this has deteriorated in to a chat room with the majority of the listings not time or frequency related. Serious time nuts can contact me off list and maybe be added to the group. We are doing some neat projects. Bert Kehren ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. -- The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it. -George Bernard Shaw Dr. Don Latham AJ7LL Six Mile Systems LLC 17850 Six Mile Road Huson, MT, 59846 mail: POBox 404 Frenchtown MT 59834-0404 VOX 406-626-4304 Skype: buffler2 www.lightningforensics.com www.sixmilesystems.com ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Ublox 7
Don I will continue to be part of the list but am frustrated with the loss of some of the best we used to have and I do not consider my self one of them, but I learned immensely from then. I am not the only one with that opinion looking at the number of responses I am getting. I do not know how long you have been on the list but it used to be different and better. Bert Kehren . In a message dated 5/24/2014 12:33:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, d...@montana.com writes: Sorry to lose you, Bert. Evidently a new exclusive group is just what you need. Don ewkeh...@aol.com Having used lately ublox 6M for GPSDO work I decided to buy a couple of MAX 7C's on ebay for $ 16.00 181293242043 Super results. We are going to do some saw tooth analysis but most likely will not post them because the deterioration of the list has resulted in many on the real time nuts have gone away and do like we do every thing off list since this has deteriorated in to a chat room with the majority of the listings not time or frequency related. Serious time nuts can contact me off list and maybe be added to the group. We are doing some neat projects. Bert Kehren ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. -- The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it. -George Bernard Shaw Dr. Don Latham AJ7LL Six Mile Systems LLC 17850 Six Mile Road Huson, MT, 59846 mail: POBox 404 Frenchtown MT 59834-0404 VOX 406-626-4304 Skype: buffler2 www.lightningforensics.com www.sixmilesystems.com ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Ublox 7
bert, and how, please, are us newbies and dabblers supposed to learn from you, the elite time-nuts, when you keep your discoveries secret, only accessible to a group of hand-picked individuals? of course, this is a free world, and you, like everybody, is free to share or not to share your knowledge. however, this is my place to learn, and you don't do me a favour by saying goodbye to the group. why not share your knowledge here, ignore the silly questions of the not so bright, but give them the opportunity to follow your discussions with the ones that are on a par with you? that i'd appreciate very much! hans ...because the deterioration of the list has resulted in many on the real time nuts have gone away and do like we do every thing off list since this has deteriorated in to a chat room with the majority of the listings not time or frequency related. Serious time nuts can contact me off list and maybe be added to the group. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Ublox 7
In message 41ebc.73c6c61.40b25...@aol.com, ewkeh...@aol.com writes: Hans we are not elite most of those have long gone if you look back four years ore more [...] If you are talking about people like me, the reason for my current lack of activity is that I'm not doing much time-nuttery right now, for a number of reasons which have absolutely nothing to do with the S/N of time-nuts. Poul-Henning PS: I actually completed a bit of very interesting time-nuttery last year which I guess I should have reported here: A prototype computing cluster for the adaptive optics of mirror 3 and 4 in the ESO ELT telescope: https://www.eso.org/sci/meetings/2012/RTCWorkshop/4_1-kamp.pdf -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Ublox 7
Hi, On 05/24/2014 10:38 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message 41ebc.73c6c61.40b25...@aol.com, ewkeh...@aol.com writes: Hans we are not elite most of those have long gone if you look back four years ore more [...] If you are talking about people like me, the reason for my current lack of activity is that I'm not doing much time-nuttery right now, for a number of reasons which have absolutely nothing to do with the S/N of time-nuts. Poul-Henning PS: I actually completed a bit of very interesting time-nuttery last year which I guess I should have reported here: A prototype computing cluster for the adaptive optics of mirror 3 and 4 in the ESO ELT telescope: https://www.eso.org/sci/meetings/2012/RTCWorkshop/4_1-kamp.pdf Poul-Henning reporting on some cool stuff as always. My lack of contribution has to do with other things as well, including topics I can contribute on. Meanwhile I'm hacking away on one of several time-nut related projects I wish will mature to the level that I have something to report to the list about. But yes, I can understand Bert's frustration. Cheers, Magnus ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Ublox 7
While I agree the noise has risen quite a bit, as a mostly lurker here, I've learned quite a bit just watching the conversations. Indeed when Dr. Bruce posts I'm invariably driven into days of additional study to ponder his responses :-) Maybe someone could throw up a web page with the Ublox 7 findings if you don't want to discuss on this list? I have a selfish self interest as I too have a couple of 7's on the way to the US from China! Scott On May 24, 2014, at 10:07 AM, Hans Holzach hans.holz...@gmail.com wrote: bert, and how, please, are us newbies and dabblers supposed to learn from you, the elite time-nuts, when you keep your discoveries secret, only accessible to a group of hand-picked individuals? of course, this is a free world, and you, like everybody, is free to share or not to share your knowledge. however, this is my place to learn, and you don't do me a favour by saying goodbye to the group. why not share your knowledge here, ignore the silly questions of the not so bright, but give them the opportunity to follow your discussions with the ones that are on a par with you? that i'd appreciate very much! hans ...because the deterioration of the list has resulted in many on the real time nuts have gone away and do like we do every thing off list since this has deteriorated in to a chat room with the majority of the listings not time or frequency related. Serious time nuts can contact me off list and maybe be added to the group. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Ublox 7
There have been a couple of questions on and off list. as to the specific listing. I did forget to mention one thing. The unit comes with a built in antenna. For time application not exactly what we want Not easy to take off since it is a block of ceramic with a pin through the center with little tolerance. Un soldering will not do doe to the heat sink created by the ceramic. Best way is to put the ceramic in a vice on its side excerpt a lot of pressure and it will brake or use a center punch or small hammer while it is under pressure. It will shatter. next remove the pieces with a knife since there is some glue. Now you are left with a pin. If you want to use the hole find a way to hold the board, heat the pin with a soldering iron and wiggle it out. Did it with two units no problem. Bert Kehren In a message dated 5/24/2014 5:57:04 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, slbur...@gmail.com writes: While I agree the noise has risen quite a bit, as a mostly lurker here, I've learned quite a bit just watching the conversations. Indeed when Dr. Bruce posts I'm invariably driven into days of additional study to ponder his responses :-) Maybe someone could throw up a web page with the Ublox 7 findings if you don't want to discuss on this list? I have a selfish self interest as I too have a couple of 7's on the way to the US from China! Scott On May 24, 2014, at 10:07 AM, Hans Holzach hans.holz...@gmail.com wrote: bert, and how, please, are us newbies and dabblers supposed to learn from you, the elite time-nuts, when you keep your discoveries secret, only accessible to a group of hand-picked individuals? of course, this is a free world, and you, like everybody, is free to share or not to share your knowledge. however, this is my place to learn, and you don't do me a favour by saying goodbye to the group. why not share your knowledge here, ignore the silly questions of the not so bright, but give them the opportunity to follow your discussions with the ones that are on a par with you? that i'd appreciate very much! hans ...because the deterioration of the list has resulted in many on the real time nuts have gone away and do like we do every thing off list since this has deteriorated in to a chat room with the majority of the listings not time or frequency related. Serious time nuts can contact me off list and maybe be added to the group. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Ublox 7
From: ewkeh...@aol.com [] There have been a couple of questions on and off list. as to the specific listing. I did forget to mention one thing. The unit comes with a built in antenna. [] Bert Kehren === You can also get the u-blox 7 without the antenna - for example this pre-built unit for the Raspberry Pi, which has an SMA socket: http://www.satsignal.eu/ntp/Raspberry-Pi-NTP.html#no-soldering Cheers, David -- SatSignal Software - Quality software written to your requirements Web: http://www.satsignal.eu Email: david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.