Re: [time-nuts] PRS10 PRBB Shematics
Hi Guys I have just bought 2 kinds of PRS10 connectors on taobao.com. (PCB type and cable type, refer to the attached photo). It is about 8$ each(the D-SUB + center RF part). If you are looking for it, I can send you the link off the list. Yours Li Ang / BI7LNQ -- Original -- From: "Jacques Tiete";<jacq...@tiete.org>; Date: Mon, Oct 9, 2017 11:37 AM To: "TimeNuts"<time-nuts@febo.com>; Subject: Re: [time-nuts] PRS10 PRBB Shematics Thanks for the prompt reactions, in the mean time I understood Cannon connectors can be a real pain in the xxx :-) to figure out the right one. Jacques Op 6 okt. 2017, om 23:19 heeft Jacques Tiete <jacq...@tiete.org> het volgende geschreven: Fellow timenuts, I’d like to find some more info about the SRS “PRBB” breakout board for the PRS10, schematic diagram, parts list (eg. the cannon pcb connector used) and all relevant info. An internet/timenuts research did not turn up anything relevant. thanks & 73’s, Jacques Jacques Tiete jacq...@tiete.org GSM: 32(0)499 99 83 78 ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.<> ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] PRS10 PRBB Shematics
Thanks for the prompt reactions, in the mean time I understood Cannon connectors can be a real pain in the xxx :-) to figure out the right one. Jacques Op 6 okt. 2017, om 23:19 heeft Jacques Tietehet volgende geschreven: Fellow timenuts, I’d like to find some more info about the SRS “PRBB” breakout board for the PRS10, schematic diagram, parts list (eg. the cannon pcb connector used) and all relevant info. An internet/timenuts research did not turn up anything relevant. thanks & 73’s, Jacques Jacques Tiete jacq...@tiete.org GSM: 32(0)499 99 83 78 ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] PRS10 PRBB Shematics
The PRS10 was intended as FRS alternative you can use the same plug with no changes on both unitsBert Kehren Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A Original message From: Mark SimsDate: 10/7/17 1:58 PM (GMT-05:00) To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] PRS10 PRBB Shematics SRS sells the connector. You might want to make sure you have a tube of ass-lube handy when you check the price... It's around three times the distribution price. SRS really should have used a standard D-sub and a couple of SMA connectors. I considered laying out a PRBB clone, but didn't want to mess with sourcing that damn connector. I wound uo buying the PRBB and the heatsink (and a tube 'o lube). Spent more for those than the PRS-10. The heatsink they ship now does not seem to be nearly as good as the older one. Also be aware that the SRS ordering page is not HTTPS and your credit card info is sent in plain text... you might want to order over the phone. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] PRS10 PRBB Shematics
I couldn’t find the entire connector anywhere. The unpopulated D-Sub Digikey id is DAM-11W1SM-A197 (sorry, I had dropped the 1) I couldn’t find a european distributer. Mouser has no stock. > Le 7 oct. 2017 à 16:06, Jerry <jster...@att.net> a écrit : > > Mike > > I searched Digikey for the canon connector but could not find it... they do > have the coax insert part number you listed. Are you aware of any other > source for the entire connector? > > Jerry, NY2KW > > -Original Message- > From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Mike Cook > Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2017 9:16 AM > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <time-nuts@febo.com> > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] PRS10 PRBB Shematics > > Hi Jacques, > I’ve bought three of these PRBB for my PRS10s and got none of the > information that you are interested in supplied by SRS. > As you are asking for the Cannon connector used, I presume you don’t have one > and maybe want to make one up? > I have removed one and confirm that the Cannon connector is that described in > the Operation and Service manual. > Unfortunately the parts are not in that manuals parts list. > > The connectors on mine are marked DAM-11WSM-A197 > > You can get both that and the coax connector insert,DM53740-5008, from > Digikey for instance. Note the 2nd M is not in the Digikey reference. > > Conceptually it looks pretty simple, with 10MHZ and 1PPS IN being just passed > through and the data signals being inverted with a 74HC14D. > So there is no full RS232 conversion, limiting cable length probably. > The 1LOCK/1PPS OUT signal through Cannon pin 1 appears to be double inverted > before being fead to the BNC, to enable a LOCK lead to be lit as well as > having the positive going but narrow pulse. > > Mike > >> Le 6 oct. 2017 à 23:19, Jacques Tiete <jacq...@tiete.org> a écrit : >> >> Fellow timenuts, >> >> I’d like to find some more info about the SRS “PRBB” breakout board for the >> PRS10, schematic diagram, parts list (eg. the cannon pcb connector used) and >> all relevant info. >> An internet/timenuts research did not turn up anything relevant. >> >> >> thanks & 73’s, >> >> Jacques >> >> >> Jacques Tiete >> jacq...@tiete.org >> GSM: 32(0)499 99 83 78 >> >> >> >> ___ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to >> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. > > "The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who > have not got it. » George Bernard Shaw > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. "The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it. » George Bernard Shaw ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] PRS10 PRBB Shematics
Hi Any time I’ve bought those connectors, it has been as shells, bodies, and inserts. You buy the bits and peces to put together. The reason is fairly simple. There are multiple “big fat” inserts that can go into them. Shells come a lot of ways. Coax, and various high current contacts are the fairly normal inserts. There are some really exotic inserts as well. In some cases, the bodies are a “14 week back order / minimum quantity per order” sort of thing. Bob > On Oct 7, 2017, at 10:06 AM, Jerry <jster...@att.net> wrote: > > Mike > > I searched Digikey for the canon connector but could not find it... they do > have the coax insert part number you listed. Are you aware of any other > source for the entire connector? > > Jerry, NY2KW > > -Original Message- > From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Mike Cook > Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2017 9:16 AM > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <time-nuts@febo.com> > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] PRS10 PRBB Shematics > > Hi Jacques, > I’ve bought three of these PRBB for my PRS10s and got none of the > information that you are interested in supplied by SRS. > As you are asking for the Cannon connector used, I presume you don’t have one > and maybe want to make one up? > I have removed one and confirm that the Cannon connector is that described in > the Operation and Service manual. > Unfortunately the parts are not in that manuals parts list. > > The connectors on mine are marked DAM-11WSM-A197 > > You can get both that and the coax connector insert,DM53740-5008, from > Digikey for instance. Note the 2nd M is not in the Digikey reference. > > Conceptually it looks pretty simple, with 10MHZ and 1PPS IN being just passed > through and the data signals being inverted with a 74HC14D. > So there is no full RS232 conversion, limiting cable length probably. > The 1LOCK/1PPS OUT signal through Cannon pin 1 appears to be double inverted > before being fead to the BNC, to enable a LOCK lead to be lit as well as > having the positive going but narrow pulse. > > Mike > >> Le 6 oct. 2017 à 23:19, Jacques Tiete <jacq...@tiete.org> a écrit : >> >> Fellow timenuts, >> >> I’d like to find some more info about the SRS “PRBB” breakout board for the >> PRS10, schematic diagram, parts list (eg. the cannon pcb connector used) and >> all relevant info. >> An internet/timenuts research did not turn up anything relevant. >> >> >> thanks & 73’s, >> >> Jacques >> >> >> Jacques Tiete >> jacq...@tiete.org >> GSM: 32(0)499 99 83 78 >> >> >> >> ___ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to >> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. > > "The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who > have not got it. » George Bernard Shaw > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] PRS10 PRBB Shematics
Mike I searched Digikey for the canon connector but could not find it... they do have the coax insert part number you listed. Are you aware of any other source for the entire connector? Jerry, NY2KW -Original Message- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Mike Cook Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2017 9:16 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <time-nuts@febo.com> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] PRS10 PRBB Shematics Hi Jacques, I’ve bought three of these PRBB for my PRS10s and got none of the information that you are interested in supplied by SRS. As you are asking for the Cannon connector used, I presume you don’t have one and maybe want to make one up? I have removed one and confirm that the Cannon connector is that described in the Operation and Service manual. Unfortunately the parts are not in that manuals parts list. The connectors on mine are marked DAM-11WSM-A197 You can get both that and the coax connector insert,DM53740-5008, from Digikey for instance. Note the 2nd M is not in the Digikey reference. Conceptually it looks pretty simple, with 10MHZ and 1PPS IN being just passed through and the data signals being inverted with a 74HC14D. So there is no full RS232 conversion, limiting cable length probably. The 1LOCK/1PPS OUT signal through Cannon pin 1 appears to be double inverted before being fead to the BNC, to enable a LOCK lead to be lit as well as having the positive going but narrow pulse. Mike > Le 6 oct. 2017 à 23:19, Jacques Tiete <jacq...@tiete.org> a écrit : > > Fellow timenuts, > > I’d like to find some more info about the SRS “PRBB” breakout board for the > PRS10, schematic diagram, parts list (eg. the cannon pcb connector used) and > all relevant info. > An internet/timenuts research did not turn up anything relevant. > > > thanks & 73’s, > > Jacques > > > Jacques Tiete > jacq...@tiete.org > GSM: 32(0)499 99 83 78 > > > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. "The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it. » George Bernard Shaw ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] PRS10 PRBB Shematics
Hi Jacques, I’ve bought three of these PRBB for my PRS10s and got none of the information that you are interested in supplied by SRS. As you are asking for the Cannon connector used, I presume you don’t have one and maybe want to make one up? I have removed one and confirm that the Cannon connector is that described in the Operation and Service manual. Unfortunately the parts are not in that manuals parts list. The connectors on mine are marked DAM-11WSM-A197 You can get both that and the coax connector insert,DM53740-5008, from Digikey for instance. Note the 2nd M is not in the Digikey reference. Conceptually it looks pretty simple, with 10MHZ and 1PPS IN being just passed through and the data signals being inverted with a 74HC14D. So there is no full RS232 conversion, limiting cable length probably. The 1LOCK/1PPS OUT signal through Cannon pin 1 appears to be double inverted before being fead to the BNC, to enable a LOCK lead to be lit as well as having the positive going but narrow pulse. Mike > Le 6 oct. 2017 à 23:19, Jacques Tietea écrit : > > Fellow timenuts, > > I’d like to find some more info about the SRS “PRBB” breakout board for the > PRS10, schematic diagram, parts list (eg. the cannon pcb connector used) and > all relevant info. > An internet/timenuts research did not turn up anything relevant. > > > thanks & 73’s, > > Jacques > > > Jacques Tiete > jacq...@tiete.org > GSM: 32(0)499 99 83 78 > > > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. "The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it. » George Bernard Shaw ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.