Re: [time-nuts] housing multiple GPS timing receivers in the same box.

2014-02-06 Thread Alex Pummer

Hi
where is a good source of GPS receiver modules I need one which has 
10kHz output to phase lock a quartz oscillator


Thank you in advance
Alex

On 2/4/2014 9:32 AM, Brian Lloyd wrote:

Get a signal splitter from minicircuits specifically designed with a
passband tailored for GPS that has DC pass-through to power the antenna and
LNA. If you can't find one that has DC pass-through then you will need to
add a power injector to power the antenna/LNA.

Here: http://www.minicircuits.com/pages/npa/ZAPD-2DC+.pdf


On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 7:08 AM, mike cook michael.c...@sfr.fr wrote:


Hi,
   Till now I have been putting receivers in individual boxes. So to limit
the growing number of boxes, I want to put two Resolution-T SMT receivers
in one box, sharing power and antenna inputs. My question is  How best can
I share the antenna input, minimizing any interference between the
receivers? . Will any interference matter? For example, I can easily
connect three bits of shielded coax in a Y , but will probably get
reflections from each receiver. As the cables will only be about 15cm long,
would it matter? How about the DC antenna supply? The antenna DC will NOT
be powering an antenna as it passes through a DC blocked splitter used to
share an antenna between most of my receivers. I might be able squeeze a
Mini-Circuits splitter in the box and DC-block both outputs but that may be
overkill.  What discrete circuitry might be a replacement? Will the Y do
it?

Someone must have already succeeded with this type of config.

Thanks in advance  for your input.

Regards,
Mike


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Re: [time-nuts] housing multiple GPS timing receivers in the same box.

2014-02-05 Thread mike cook

Le 5 févr. 2014 à 01:52, saidj...@aol.com a écrit :

 Michael,
 
 use a simple BNC T-splitter. Works perfectly for me as long as both GPS  
 carry the same antenna voltage. No loss in signal quality evident from the 
 C/No  readings, and dirt-cheap. No need to over-complicate this.
 
 bye,
 Said
 

Thanks Said, 
I'll take that route I think, though with SMA as it's a bit smaller. 
I'll just note here that I found that Mini-Circuits manufacture both  through 
hole and smd parts covering the L1 band, so if I really needed the space I 
could try those. They are also much cheaper. 
   
Have a good one.

 
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Re: [time-nuts] housing multiple GPS timing receivers in the same box.

2014-02-05 Thread David McGaw
As has been discussed before, a splitter intended for home satellite 
systems is a cheap solution as they have the bandwidth and the DC pass 
required.  I have one between a couple of Thunderbolts.  It powers the 
antenna and shows antenna OK on both.  Using a splitter is better than 
just a T as it does lend some isolation between the receivers.


David


On 2/4/14 4:50 PM, mike cook wrote:



Le 4 févr. 2014 à 22:35, Volker Esper a écrit :


http://www.ebay.de/itm/HP-58516A-GPS-1-4-signal-Distribution-Amplifier-Splitter-N-type-/300997787447?pt=US_Ham_Radio_Receivershash=item4614ddbf37


   I think I should have said that my box is only 25mm high. So any splitter 
will have to be less. A Mini Circuits splitter will just about do it , but I 
would prefer a smaller solution.




Am 04.02.2014 14:08, schrieb mike cook:

Hi,
  Till now I have been putting receivers in individual boxes. So to limit the growing number of boxes, I want 
to put two Resolution-T SMT receivers in one box, sharing power and antenna inputs. My question is  How 
best can I share the antenna input, minimizing any interference between the receivers? . Will any 
interference matter? For example, I can easily connect three bits of shielded coax in a Y , but 
will probably get reflections from each receiver. As the cables will only be about 15cm long, would it 
matter? How about the DC antenna supply? The antenna DC will NOT be powering an antenna as it passes through 
a DC blocked splitter used to share an antenna between most of my receivers. I might be able squeeze a 
Mini-Circuits splitter in the box and DC-block both outputs but that may be overkill.  What discrete 
circuitry might be a replacement? Will the Y do it?

Someone must have already succeeded with this type of config.

Thanks in advance  for your input.

Regards,
Mike


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Re: [time-nuts] housing multiple GPS timing receivers in the same box.

2014-02-04 Thread Brian Lloyd
Get a signal splitter from minicircuits specifically designed with a
passband tailored for GPS that has DC pass-through to power the antenna and
LNA. If you can't find one that has DC pass-through then you will need to
add a power injector to power the antenna/LNA.

Here: http://www.minicircuits.com/pages/npa/ZAPD-2DC+.pdf


On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 7:08 AM, mike cook michael.c...@sfr.fr wrote:

 Hi,
   Till now I have been putting receivers in individual boxes. So to limit
 the growing number of boxes, I want to put two Resolution-T SMT receivers
 in one box, sharing power and antenna inputs. My question is  How best can
 I share the antenna input, minimizing any interference between the
 receivers? . Will any interference matter? For example, I can easily
 connect three bits of shielded coax in a Y , but will probably get
 reflections from each receiver. As the cables will only be about 15cm long,
 would it matter? How about the DC antenna supply? The antenna DC will NOT
 be powering an antenna as it passes through a DC blocked splitter used to
 share an antenna between most of my receivers. I might be able squeeze a
 Mini-Circuits splitter in the box and DC-block both outputs but that may be
 overkill.  What discrete circuitry might be a replacement? Will the Y do
 it?

 Someone must have already succeeded with this type of config.

 Thanks in advance  for your input.

 Regards,
 Mike


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Re: [time-nuts] housing multiple GPS timing receivers in the same box.

2014-02-04 Thread Volker Esper
http://www.ebay.de/itm/HP-58516A-GPS-1-4-signal-Distribution-Amplifier-Splitter-N-type-/300997787447?pt=US_Ham_Radio_Receivershash=item4614ddbf37



Am 04.02.2014 14:08, schrieb mike cook:
 Hi,
   Till now I have been putting receivers in individual boxes. So to limit the 
 growing number of boxes, I want to put two Resolution-T SMT receivers in one 
 box, sharing power and antenna inputs. My question is  How best can I share 
 the antenna input, minimizing any interference between the receivers? . Will 
 any interference matter? For example, I can easily connect three bits of 
 shielded coax in a Y , but will probably get reflections from each 
 receiver. As the cables will only be about 15cm long, would it matter? How 
 about the DC antenna supply? The antenna DC will NOT be powering an antenna 
 as it passes through a DC blocked splitter used to share an antenna between 
 most of my receivers. I might be able squeeze a Mini-Circuits splitter in the 
 box and DC-block both outputs but that may be overkill.  What discrete 
 circuitry might be a replacement? Will the Y do it?

 Someone must have already succeeded with this type of config. 

 Thanks in advance  for your input.

 Regards,
 Mike

  
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Re: [time-nuts] housing multiple GPS timing receivers in the same box.

2014-02-04 Thread mike cook



Le 4 févr. 2014 à 22:35, Volker Esper a écrit :

 http://www.ebay.de/itm/HP-58516A-GPS-1-4-signal-Distribution-Amplifier-Splitter-N-type-/300997787447?pt=US_Ham_Radio_Receivershash=item4614ddbf37
 

  I think I should have said that my box is only 25mm high. So any splitter 
will have to be less. A Mini Circuits splitter will just about do it , but I 
would prefer a smaller solution.


 
 
 Am 04.02.2014 14:08, schrieb mike cook:
 Hi,
  Till now I have been putting receivers in individual boxes. So to limit the 
 growing number of boxes, I want to put two Resolution-T SMT receivers in one 
 box, sharing power and antenna inputs. My question is  How best can I share 
 the antenna input, minimizing any interference between the receivers? . 
 Will any interference matter? For example, I can easily connect three bits 
 of shielded coax in a Y , but will probably get reflections from each 
 receiver. As the cables will only be about 15cm long, would it matter? How 
 about the DC antenna supply? The antenna DC will NOT be powering an antenna 
 as it passes through a DC blocked splitter used to share an antenna between 
 most of my receivers. I might be able squeeze a Mini-Circuits splitter in 
 the box and DC-block both outputs but that may be overkill.  What discrete 
 circuitry might be a replacement? Will the Y do it?
 
 Someone must have already succeeded with this type of config. 
 
 Thanks in advance  for your input.
 
 Regards,
 Mike
 
 
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Re: [time-nuts] housing multiple GPS timing receivers in the same box.

2014-02-04 Thread Alex Pummer

Hi Mike,
that distribution amplifier is not optimized as low noise amplifier, 
therefore it's noise-figure most likely no to low, that will effect the 
GPS system,   which get his antenna feed via that amplifier. That is 
valid even if you solve the problem of the preamplifier power feed.


Regards
Alex Pummer

On 2/4/2014 1:35 PM, Volker Esper wrote:

http://www.ebay.de/itm/HP-58516A-GPS-1-4-signal-Distribution-Amplifier-Splitter-N-type-/300997787447?pt=US_Ham_Radio_Receivershash=item4614ddbf37



Am 04.02.2014 14:08, schrieb mike cook:

Hi,
   Till now I have been putting receivers in individual boxes. So to limit the growing number of boxes, I 
want to put two Resolution-T SMT receivers in one box, sharing power and antenna inputs. My question is 
 How best can I share the antenna input, minimizing any interference between the receivers? . 
Will any interference matter? For example, I can easily connect three bits of shielded coax in a 
Y , but will probably get reflections from each receiver. As the cables will only be about 15cm 
long, would it matter? How about the DC antenna supply? The antenna DC will NOT be powering an antenna as it 
passes through a DC blocked splitter used to share an antenna between most of my receivers. I might be able 
squeeze a Mini-Circuits splitter in the box and DC-block both outputs but that may be overkill.  What 
discrete circuitry might be a replacement? Will the Y do it?

Someone must have already succeeded with this type of config.

Thanks in advance  for your input.

Regards,
Mike

  
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Re: [time-nuts] housing multiple GPS timing receivers in the same box.

2014-02-04 Thread SAIDJACK
Michael,
 
use a simple BNC T-splitter. Works perfectly for me as long as both GPS  
carry the same antenna voltage. No loss in signal quality evident from the 
C/No  readings, and dirt-cheap. No need to over-complicate this.
 
bye,
Said
 
 
In a message dated 2/4/2014 14:41:40 Pacific Standard Time,  
michael.c...@sfr.fr writes:




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