[time-nuts] Symmetricom TS2100 Faults and Forgetfulness

2018-12-06 Thread Chris Quayle

On 12/06/18 12:23, time-nuts-requ...@lists.febo.com wrote:

Esa Heikkinen




I think IP address or display settings cannot be stored to that EEPROM,
it contains oscillator steering parameters etc. That is because this
EEPROM is write protected by jumper JP4, so any user settings cannot be
there. You only need to edit the EEPROM content if you change to
different oscillator. To do any changes there JP4 must be shorted to
enable writing.

 From my TS2100 I have stored two EEPROM dumps:

With original TXCO:
0e 5b 45 4b 00 00 00 46
31 30 34 30 38 30 37 39
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 a0 6e 04 1f d3 56 43
58 4f 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 ff ff
ff eb 00 00 00 02 3f 73
33 33 00 04 00 00 00 00
00 24 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

After upgrading MTI OCXO:
a5 73 9b 52 00 00 00 46
31 30 34 30 38 30 37 39
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 a0 6e 04 1f d3 56 43
58 4f 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 ff ff
ff eb ff ff ff ec 3f 7f
df 3b 00 04 00 00 00 00
00 24 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

So there must be some other place to store the user data. I would look
if there's more EEPROMs on the board and does they have write protect
jumpers also. Erratic jumper setting there could prevent storing any
changes. It may also be faulty eeprom.

-- 73s! Esa OH4KJU


Here's mine again:

fe 55 73 7c 00 00 00 46
33 30 30 30 30 30 32 31
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 a0 6e 04 14 4a 56 43
58 4f 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 ff ff
ff ed 00 00 00 14 3f 7f
df 03 00 04 00 00 00 00
00 24 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00


Already replaced the oscillator a while back. Comparing the
output to a gps 10Mhz, the original was jittering all over the
place and not very nice on an sa either. Didn't have the exact fit, but
did have a small ovenised vcxo which had the right vcc and control
range. Epoxied that the the board, but had to add a squarer (a
single transistor) as it had a sine wave op. So, it's been hacked
around a bit already.

One thing I did notice in the eeprom, 4th line down, first six bytes, is
the ether mac address, but haven't edited any parameters as yet. Right
now, it's running on a ups, along with a couple of other what I call,
"essential loads" :-).

As for user setups, from memory, there are two eeproms on the board,
so may swap the other item to see if it fixes the fault...

Regards,

Chris

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Re: [time-nuts] Symmetricom TS2100 Faults and Forgetfulness

2018-12-06 Thread Esa Heikkinen

Chris Quayle kirjoitti 6.12.2018 klo 2:13:


Eeprom dump included. If another member has one of these, do
these values look sane ?. No idea of function though...


I think IP address or display settings cannot be stored to that EEPROM, 
it contains oscillator steering parameters etc. That is because this 
EEPROM is write protected by jumper JP4, so any user settings cannot be 
there. You only need to edit the EEPROM content if you change to 
different oscillator. To do any changes there JP4 must be shorted to 
enable writing.


From my TS2100 I have stored two EEPROM dumps:

With original TXCO:
0e 5b 45 4b 00 00 00 46
31 30 34 30 38 30 37 39
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 a0 6e 04 1f d3 56 43
58 4f 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 ff ff
ff eb 00 00 00 02 3f 73
33 33 00 04 00 00 00 00
00 24 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

After upgrading MTI OCXO:
a5 73 9b 52 00 00 00 46
31 30 34 30 38 30 37 39
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 a0 6e 04 1f d3 56 43
58 4f 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 ff ff
ff eb ff ff ff ec 3f 7f
df 3b 00 04 00 00 00 00
00 24 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

So there must be some other place to store the user data. I would look 
if there's more EEPROMs on the board and does they have write protect 
jumpers also. Erratic jumper setting there could prevent storing any 
changes. It may also be faulty eeprom.


--
73s!
Esa
OH4KJU

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[time-nuts] Symmetricom TS2100 Faults and Forgetfulness

2018-12-05 Thread Chris Quayle

Hi,

Thanks for all the replies. Looked into the Heol replacement gps
module, bit bullet  and ordered one.  Arrived today and on re
power up, the system was tracking 8 satellites 3D in 3 or 4
minutes. Quite impressive really and a great improvement on the
original module, even without the firmware issues.

Still have the power down / losing setup fault. If it's powered
down, the next power up shows cleared network info, ip, mask
and route etc, together with rubbish on the display.May be other
parameters as well, but my guess is that it's reverting to
defaults, perhaps because of a checksum fault in the firmware
or eeprom. Will try re installing the firmware, which I updated
to the final version sometime ago, but apart from that, no idea
what the fault might be.

Eeprom dump included. If another member has one of these, do
these values look sane ?. No idea of function though...

Regards,

Chris

35 ? root eng eeprom
36 ? read
fe 55 73 7c 00 00 00 46
33 30 30 30 30 30 32 31
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 a0 6e 04 14 4a 56 43
58 4f 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 ff ff
ff ed 00 00 00 14 3f 7f
df 03 00 04 00 00 00 00
00 24 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

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Re: [time-nuts] Symmetricom TS2100 Faults and Forgetfulness

2018-11-27 Thread Gregory Beat via time-nuts
Chris -

Did you update this TS-2100 with HEOL Design’s replacement GPS receiver?
Several time-nuts participants (and some scientific organizations) performed 
this update/upgrade (including me), replacing the obsolete TrimbleACE III GPS 
receiver.
http://www.heoldesign.com/N024-GPS-receiver-board-for-Tymserve-2100
—
On January 2015, TymServe 2100 servers started failing in the time displayed, 
and there was 1 second offset.  On May 3, 2015, the TS2100 showed another bug, 
by displaying an incorrect date : September 17, 1995 (1024 weeks earlier, GPS 
Week Number Roll-over).

Symmetricom (Microsemi) published a note about this WNRO bug, 
explaining that no fix was available (from Microsemi).
HEOL Design (France) developed a solution for these TS2100 issues.
http://www.heoldesign.com/IMG/pdf/heol-tech_note_119_en_r02.pdf

HEOL DESIGN
Pôle Phoenix
Route du radome
22560 PLEUMEUR BODOU
France
T: (+33)296 48 46 05
M:(+33)603 55 19 45
E: cont...@heoldesign.com
—
greg, w9gb


Subject: Symmetricom TS2100 Faults and Forgetfulness
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2018 18:31:30 +
From: Chris Quayle
To: time-nuts-requ...@lists.febo.com

Hi,
Question for the group. 
I have a Symmetricon TS2100 which has faults.
It's been some time since it was last used, but powered it up
recently to find that it had lost it's setup data, display showed
rubbish and the year is stuck at 1997, though the time of day is
accurate once it has achieved 1pps lock. Apart from that, everything
else looks ok. The display can be reset with the "root util display
0x97900" command and the firmware was upgraded about a year ago to
the latest revision from the symmetricom site.

Just wondering if it could be a faulty eeprom, but not managed to
find a schematic or service data for it, so difficult to debug at
a hardware level. Any suggestions would be welcome...

Chris


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