RE:[tips] clinical Ph.Ds?
Hi
I wonder if the issue is more general than academic job searches. My wife is a
psychologist with Correctional Services of Canada and they have difficulty
attracting clinical psychologists, who appear to prefer private practice. Is
private practice simply more lucrative than any salaried job, academic or
otherwise? Or do clinical training programs instill that model in students?
Take care
Jim
James M. Clark
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>>> Marc Carter 02-Apr-13 9:35 AM >>>
The last search we did (last year) for a clinical/counseling PhD netted us two
viable candidates. Luckily one of them was good.
Right now I'm running a search in exercise science (looking for an ex phys
person) and we have a woefully small pool. OTOH, our searches in math, sports
administration, and international studies all have large and healthy pools. I
don't know what's going on, but it sure makes me hate being chair of this
department...
m
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Chair, Department of Behavioral and Health Sciences
College of Arts & Sciences
Baker University
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> From: Bourgeois, Dr. Martin [mailto:mbour...@fgcu.edu]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 5:44 AM
> To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
> Subject: RE:[tips] clinical Ph.Ds?
>
> Yes, we have the same problem. Two failed searches in a row, due to
> small and inadequate pools. We're a large undergrad program with good
> resources (lab space, etc.), and we can't get people to apply. Maybe
> the recent success of our basketball team will help with our next
> search.
>
> Marty
>
> Martin Bourgeois
> Professor and Chair
> Social and Behavioral Sciences
> Florida Gulf Coast University
> Fort Myers, FL 33931
>
>
>
>
> From: Gerald Peterson [peter...@svsu.edu]
> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 7:05 PM
> To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
> Subject: [tips] clinical Ph.Ds?
>
> Have a question about new clinical Ph.Ds. We have been advertising
> this year for someone in clinical psych who can come aboard our
> undergrad program here. It is a teaching/research university but there
> is not the high pressure that others face for grants and publications.
> We have had a lot of trouble just getting qualified, new Ph.D. clinical
> folks to apply and I am wondering if this is peculiar to us or if
> others have had similar problems. Are new clinical Ph.Ds not
> interested in academic positions at all these days? Maybe the practice
> opportunities are much more attractive? We have advertised in the usual
> places but maybe there other places to put the ad than the chronicle
> and apa and aps publications? Any suggestions will be appreciated. Our
> applicants are totally off base (not clinical, etc.) and/or we have
> fewer new ph.d. clinicians applying. I wish this were an April first
> joke, but it is just a real challenge in building our program.
>
>
>
> Gerald L. (Gary) Peterson, Ph.D.
> Professor, Department of Psychology
> Saginaw Valley State University
> University Center, MI 48710
> 989-964-4491
> peter...@svsu.edu
>
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Re:[tips] tips digest: April 02, 2013
This is an interesting problem. I teach in a PhD clinical and experimental psych program at Drexel Univ and I didn't hear that there was a number of unfilled positions out there. My speculation is that there is likely a problem with fit. People with clinical training need a clinic. If the other offer is a clinical setting at higher salary then the choice is obvious. If the job is essentially confined to undergrad teaching and research when there is no clinical research setting then applicants probably don't see a fit. Departments should also consider part-time clinical faculty who work as clinical psychologists and teach the clinical courses part time. Mike Williams On 4/3/13 1:00 AM, Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) digest wrote: TIPS Digest for Tuesday, April 02, 2013. 1. RE: clinical Ph.Ds? 2. RE: clinical Ph.Ds? -- Subject: RE: clinical Ph.Ds? From: "Bourgeois, Dr. Martin" Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 10:44:06 + X-Message-Number: 1 Yes, we have the same problem. Two failed searches in a row, due to small and inadequate pools. We're a large undergrad program with good resources (lab space, etc.), and we can't get people to apply. Maybe the recent success of our basketball team will help with our next search. Marty Martin Bourgeois Professor and Chair Social and Behavioral Sciences Florida Gulf Coast University Fort Myers, FL 33931 --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5&n=T&l=tips&o=24723 or send a blank email to leave-24723-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
RE:[tips] clinical Ph.Ds?
The last search we did (last year) for a clinical/counseling PhD netted us two
viable candidates. Luckily one of them was good.
Right now I'm running a search in exercise science (looking for an ex phys
person) and we have a woefully small pool. OTOH, our searches in math, sports
administration, and international studies all have large and healthy pools. I
don't know what's going on, but it sure makes me hate being chair of this
department...
m
--
Marc Carter, PhD
Associate Professor of Psychology
Chair, Department of Behavioral and Health Sciences
College of Arts & Sciences
Baker University
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> -Original Message-
> From: Bourgeois, Dr. Martin [mailto:mbour...@fgcu.edu]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 5:44 AM
> To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
> Subject: RE:[tips] clinical Ph.Ds?
>
> Yes, we have the same problem. Two failed searches in a row, due to
> small and inadequate pools. We're a large undergrad program with good
> resources (lab space, etc.), and we can't get people to apply. Maybe
> the recent success of our basketball team will help with our next
> search.
>
> Marty
>
> Martin Bourgeois
> Professor and Chair
> Social and Behavioral Sciences
> Florida Gulf Coast University
> Fort Myers, FL 33931
>
>
>
>
> From: Gerald Peterson [peter...@svsu.edu]
> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 7:05 PM
> To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
> Subject: [tips] clinical Ph.Ds?
>
> Have a question about new clinical Ph.Ds. We have been advertising
> this year for someone in clinical psych who can come aboard our
> undergrad program here. It is a teaching/research university but there
> is not the high pressure that others face for grants and publications.
> We have had a lot of trouble just getting qualified, new Ph.D. clinical
> folks to apply and I am wondering if this is peculiar to us or if
> others have had similar problems. Are new clinical Ph.Ds not
> interested in academic positions at all these days? Maybe the practice
> opportunities are much more attractive? We have advertised in the usual
> places but maybe there other places to put the ad than the chronicle
> and apa and aps publications? Any suggestions will be appreciated. Our
> applicants are totally off base (not clinical, etc.) and/or we have
> fewer new ph.d. clinicians applying. I wish this were an April first
> joke, but it is just a real challenge in building our program.
>
>
>
> Gerald L. (Gary) Peterson, Ph.D.
> Professor, Department of Psychology
> Saginaw Valley State University
> University Center, MI 48710
> 989-964-4491
> peter...@svsu.edu
>
>
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RE:[tips] clinical Ph.Ds?
Yes, we have the same problem. Two failed searches in a row, due to small and inadequate pools. We're a large undergrad program with good resources (lab space, etc.), and we can't get people to apply. Maybe the recent success of our basketball team will help with our next search. Marty Martin Bourgeois Professor and Chair Social and Behavioral Sciences Florida Gulf Coast University Fort Myers, FL 33931 From: Gerald Peterson [peter...@svsu.edu] Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 7:05 PM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: [tips] clinical Ph.Ds? Have a question about new clinical Ph.Ds. We have been advertising this year for someone in clinical psych who can come aboard our undergrad program here. It is a teaching/research university but there is not the high pressure that others face for grants and publications. We have had a lot of trouble just getting qualified, new Ph.D. clinical folks to apply and I am wondering if this is peculiar to us or if others have had similar problems. Are new clinical Ph.Ds not interested in academic positions at all these days? Maybe the practice opportunities are much more attractive? We have advertised in the usual places but maybe there other places to put the ad than the chronicle and apa and aps publications? Any suggestions will be appreciated. Our applicants are totally off base (not clinical, etc.) and/or we have fewer new ph.d. clinicians applying. I wish this were an April first joke, but it is just a real challenge in building our program. Gerald L. (Gary) Peterson, Ph.D. Professor, Department of Psychology Saginaw Valley State University University Center, MI 48710 989-964-4491 peter...@svsu.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: mbour...@fgcu.edu. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13390.2bbc1cc8fd0e5f9e0b91f01828c87814&n=T&l=tips&o=24693 or send a blank email to leave-24693-13390.2bbc1cc8fd0e5f9e0b91f01828c87...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5&n=T&l=tips&o=24706 or send a blank email to leave-24706-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
