[tips] A New Movie Rating System
So I’m listening in the background as my 14 year old daughter watches Miley Cyrus in some movie she made a few years ago. She and her handsome boyfriend are having an argument (on the beach at sunset). She really wants to get something resolved but suddenly her boyfriend just grabs her face and gives her a forceful kiss, which, you guessed it, she succumbs to. So, let's see...what does this teach us? Boys: instead of trying to think things through with your girlfriend, just use force Girls: don't expect too much from your boyfriend, just go with it Maybe instead of violence and nudity ratings, there should be some other kind of movie rating system - one that evaluates the subtle messages movies convey to our children. Okay, okay, time to relax, get off my high horse and get back to work. What a fuddy-duddy father I am... Michael A. Britt, Ph.D. mich...@thepsychfiles.com http://www.ThePsychFiles.com Twitter: @mbritt --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=37729 or send a blank email to leave-37729-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
Re: [tips] A New Movie Rating System
Extracting lessons from stories is a process fraught with so many difficulties (see Bible). Perhaps one is not intended to take the actions depicted in this movie as models but just as a report of what happened with these two (fictional) people. Even if there is supposed to be a lesson, perhaps it is not the one you drew. Several other equally plausible ones come to mid: Perhaps the lesson is that some thing are not really worth fighting about, so you might as well just kiss. Or, maybe, as the movie goes on, the disagreement comes up again, and so the larger lesson is, just kissing will not make your problems go away; you must deal with them. Or, perhaps it comes up again even though it is not worth really fight about, so the lesson is, sometimes you must accede to your loved one's demands, even though you disagree, because it is more important that you are both happy than it is that you 'win' on this one minor issue. Allow me to introduce you to hermeneutics. :-) Chris ... Christopher D Green Department of Psychology York University Toronto, ON M3J 1P3 chri...@yorku.ca http://www.yorku.ca/christo On Jul 28, 2014, at 8:57 AM, Michael Britt mich...@thepsychfiles.com wrote: So I’m listening in the background as my 14 year old daughter watches Miley Cyrus in some movie she made a few years ago. She and her handsome boyfriend are having an argument (on the beach at sunset). She really wants to get something resolved but suddenly her boyfriend just grabs her face and gives her a forceful kiss, which, you guessed it, she succumbs to. So, let's see...what does this teach us? Boys: instead of trying to think things through with your girlfriend, just use force Girls: don't expect too much from your boyfriend, just go with it Maybe instead of violence and nudity ratings, there should be some other kind of movie rating system - one that evaluates the subtle messages movies convey to our children. Okay, okay, time to relax, get off my high horse and get back to work. What a fuddy-duddy father I am... Michael A. Britt, Ph.D. mich...@thepsychfiles.com http://www.ThePsychFiles.com Twitter: @mbritt --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: chri...@yorku.ca. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=430248.781165b5ef80a3cd2b14721caf62bd92n=Tl=tipso=37729 or send a blank email to leave-37729-430248.781165b5ef80a3cd2b14721caf62b...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=37731 or send a blank email to leave-37731-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
Re: [tips] A New Movie Rating System
Good points Chris. But hermeneutics? On a Monday? Too heavy Michael A. Britt, Ph.D. mich...@thepsychfiles.com http://www.ThePsychFiles.com Twitter: @mbritt On Jul 28, 2014, at 10:15 AM, Christopher Green chri...@yorku.ca wrote: Extracting lessons from stories is a process fraught with so many difficulties (see Bible). Perhaps one is not intended to take the actions depicted in this movie as models but just as a report of what happened with these two (fictional) people. Even if there is supposed to be a lesson, perhaps it is not the one you drew. Several other equally plausible ones come to mid: Perhaps the lesson is that some thing are not really worth fighting about, so you might as well just kiss. Or, maybe, as the movie goes on, the disagreement comes up again, and so the larger lesson is, just kissing will not make your problems go away; you must deal with them. Or, perhaps it comes up again even though it is not worth really fight about, so the lesson is, sometimes you must accede to your loved one's demands, even though you disagree, because it is more important that you are both happy than it is that you 'win' on this one minor issue. Allow me to introduce you to hermeneutics. :-) Chris ... Christopher D Green Department of Psychology York University Toronto, ON M3J 1P3 chri...@yorku.ca http://www.yorku.ca/christo On Jul 28, 2014, at 8:57 AM, Michael Britt mich...@thepsychfiles.com wrote: So I’m listening in the background as my 14 year old daughter watches Miley Cyrus in some movie she made a few years ago. She and her handsome boyfriend are having an argument (on the beach at sunset). She really wants to get something resolved but suddenly her boyfriend just grabs her face and gives her a forceful kiss, which, you guessed it, she succumbs to. So, let's see...what does this teach us? Boys: instead of trying to think things through with your girlfriend, just use force Girls: don't expect too much from your boyfriend, just go with it Maybe instead of violence and nudity ratings, there should be some other kind of movie rating system - one that evaluates the subtle messages movies convey to our children. Okay, okay, time to relax, get off my high horse and get back to work. What a fuddy-duddy father I am... Michael A. Britt, Ph.D. mich...@thepsychfiles.com http://www.ThePsychFiles.com Twitter: @mbritt --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: chri...@yorku.ca. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=430248.781165b5ef80a3cd2b14721caf62bd92n=Tl=tipso=37729 or send a blank email to leave-37729-430248.781165b5ef80a3cd2b14721caf62b...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: michael.br...@thepsychfiles.com. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13405.0125141592fa9ededc665c55d9958f69n=Tl=tipso=37731 or send a blank email to leave-37731-13405.0125141592fa9ededc665c55d9958...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=37732 or send a blank email to leave-37732-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
Re: [tips] A New Movie Rating System
While not exactly what you are looking for, take a look at http://bechdeltest.com A movie passes the test if it has the following 1. It has to have at least two [named] women in it 2. Who talk to each other 3. About something besides a man Deb Deborah Briihl Dept of psych and counseling Valdosta state university dbri...@valdosta.edumailto:dbri...@valdosta.edu ,Sent from my iPad On Jul 28, 2014, at 8:58 AM, Michael Britt mich...@thepsychfiles.commailto:mich...@thepsychfiles.com wrote: So I'm listening in the background as my 14 year old daughter watches Miley Cyrus in some movie she made a few years ago. She and her handsome boyfriend are having an argument (on the beach at sunset). She really wants to get something resolved but suddenly her boyfriend just grabs her face and gives her a forceful kiss, which, you guessed it, she succumbs to. So, let's see...what does this teach us? Boys: instead of trying to think things through with your girlfriend, just use force Girls: don't expect too much from your boyfriend, just go with it Maybe instead of violence and nudity ratings, there should be some other kind of movie rating system - one that evaluates the subtle messages movies convey to our children. Okay, okay, time to relax, get off my high horse and get back to work. What a fuddy-duddy father I am... Michael A. Britt, Ph.D. mich...@thepsychfiles.commailto:mich...@thepsychfiles.com http://www.ThePsychFiles.com Twitter: @mbritt --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: dbri...@valdosta.edumailto:dbri...@valdosta.edu. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13162.50de294b9d4987a3c89b4a5cc4bdea62n=Tl=tipso=37729 or send a blank email to leave-37729-13162.50de294b9d4987a3c89b4a5cc4bde...@fsulist.frostburg.edumailto:leave-37729-13162.50de294b9d4987a3c89b4a5cc4bde...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=37734 or send a blank email to leave-37734-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
Re: [tips] A New Movie Rating System
Talk about a low common denominator. Just BTW, an interesting (i.e. unfortunate) male student response to the fact that I, as so many other women, enjoyed Nancy Drew mysteries during childhood due to the strength of her character. A young guy guffawed as if this was a laughable so I asked if he ever read the Hardy Boys. Yes, indeed, he had but somehow that was OK whereas talking about reading a book with a female heroine was a source of amusement. Neither series was great literature and, in fact, written by different authors from year to year. But to read a novel about a woman who valued her women friends as much as Ned, as well as showed a courageous and independent spirit was so unique and inspiring. What can I say. Joan jwarm...@oakton.edu While not exactly what you are looking for, take a look at http://bechdeltest.com A movie passes the test if it has the following 1. It has to have at least two [named] women in it 2. Who talk to each other 3. About something besides a man Deb Deborah Briihl Dept of psych and counseling Valdosta state university dbri...@valdosta.edumailto:dbri...@valdosta.edu ,Sent from my iPad On Jul 28, 2014, at 8:58 AM, Michael Britt mich...@thepsychfiles.commailto:mich...@thepsychfiles.com wrote: So I'm listening in the background as my 14 year old daughter watches Miley Cyrus in some movie she made a few years ago. She and her handsome boyfriend are having an argument (on the beach at sunset). She really wants to get something resolved but suddenly her boyfriend just grabs her face and gives her a forceful kiss, which, you guessed it, she succumbs to. So, let's see...what does this teach us? Boys: instead of trying to think things through with your girlfriend, just use force Girls: don't expect too much from your boyfriend, just go with it Maybe instead of violence and nudity ratings, there should be some other kind of movie rating system - one that evaluates the subtle messages movies convey to our children. Okay, okay, time to relax, get off my high horse and get back to work. What a fuddy-duddy father I am... Michael A. Britt, Ph.D. mich...@thepsychfiles.commailto:mich...@thepsychfiles.com http://www.ThePsychFiles.com Twitter: @mbritt --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: dbri...@valdosta.edumailto:dbri...@valdosta.edu. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13162.50de294b9d4987a3c89b4a5cc4bdea62n=Tl=tipso=37729 or send a blank email to leave-37729-13162.50de294b9d4987a3c89b4a5cc4bde...@fsulist.frostburg.edumailto:leave-37729-13162.50de294b9d4987a3c89b4a5cc4bde...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: jwarm...@oakton.edu. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=49240.d374d0c18780e492c3d2e63f91752d0dn=Tl=tipso=37734 or send a blank email to leave-37734-49240.d374d0c18780e492c3d2e63f91752...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=37738 or send a blank email to leave-37738-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
Re: [tips] A New Movie Rating System
Appreciated your response Chris. Wish to state this with care but the research on couples discussing issues of conflict conducted by John Gottman has shown that couples do NOT have to agree on everything but, instead, it's important to pick your battles with care. Basically what his empirical research data shows based on years of videotaping couples having heated discussions was that those who make it for the long haul are able to frequently agree to not agree. And here comes the delicate part:women (am guilty) tend to get overly emotional about issues with which their partner does not concur and so, in an attempt to make their (our) point more clear, we get louder and more emotional--an approach that causes men to close down. That is, the more the woman yells, the more the guy uses a strategy Gottman refers to as 'stonewalling.' This doesn't mean the either gender is right or wrong in how they deal with disagreements; that is not the point. The point is simply that certain approaches don't work, period. Of course there are gender exceptions to these patterns but Gottman's advice to couples on how to handle conflict is based on empirical data he gathered from years of observing couples dealing with difficult issues. He got to the point where he could predict in just a few minutes when viewing a video which couples were heading for divorce. Joan jwarm...@oakton.edu Extracting lessons from stories is a process fraught with so many difficulties (see Bible). Perhaps one is not intended to take the actions depicted in this movie as models but just as a report of what happened with these two (fictional) people. Even if there is supposed to be a lesson, perhaps it is not the one you drew. Several other equally plausible ones come to mid: Perhaps the lesson is that some thing are not really worth fighting about, so you might as well just kiss. Or, maybe, as the movie goes on, the disagreement comes up again, and so the larger lesson is, just kissing will not make your problems go away; you must deal with them. Or, perhaps it comes up again even though it is not worth really fight about, so the lesson is, sometimes you must accede to your loved one's demands, even though you disagree, because it is more important that you are both happy than it is that you 'win' on this one minor issue. Allow me to introduce you to hermeneutics. :-) Chris ... Christopher D Green Department of Psychology York University Toronto, ON M3J 1P3 chri...@yorku.ca http://www.yorku.ca/christo On Jul 28, 2014, at 8:57 AM, Michael Britt mich...@thepsychfiles.com wrote: So Iâm listening in the background as my 14 year old daughter watches Miley Cyrus in some movie she made a few years ago. She and her handsome boyfriend are having an argument (on the beach at sunset). She really wants to get something resolved but suddenly her boyfriend just grabs her face and gives her a forceful kiss, which, you guessed it, she succumbs to. So, let's see...what does this teach us? Boys: instead of trying to think things through with your girlfriend, just use force Girls: don't expect too much from your boyfriend, just go with it Maybe instead of violence and nudity ratings, there should be some other kind of movie rating system - one that evaluates the subtle messages movies convey to our children. Okay, okay, time to relax, get off my high horse and get back to work. What a fuddy-duddy father I am... Michael A. Britt, Ph.D. mich...@thepsychfiles.com http://www.ThePsychFiles.com Twitter: @mbritt --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: chri...@yorku.ca. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=430248.781165b5ef80a3cd2b14721caf62bd92n=Tl=tipso=37729 or send a blank email to leave-37729-430248.781165b5ef80a3cd2b14721caf62b...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: jwarm...@oakton.edu. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=49240.d374d0c18780e492c3d2e63f91752d0dn=Tl=tipso=37731 or send a blank email to leave-37731-49240.d374d0c18780e492c3d2e63f91752...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=37739 or send a blank email to leave-37739-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
