Re: [Tlf-devel] first time user F1-F3 questions

[Thomas Beierlein]

Hi Eric,

Am Mon, 1 Oct 2018 14:12:27 -0400 (EDT)
schrieb Eric Tamme :

> Hey Tom,
> 
> I just rebuilt master.  F1-F3 etc. seem to work fine now in
> xterm-256color.  The colors are a a bit unusable, but the function
> keys seem to be OK.

Yes, the master branch is just what I released as tlf-1.3.1pre last
weekend for testing. So that is ok.

Color handling in ncurses is quite a nightmare, especially as every
terminal emulator interprets the color settings differently. You have
to experiment to find a good solution. But I expect that xterm-256color
accepts .Xressources configuration as xterm itself does. 

73, de Tom DL1JBE
> 
> -Eric / KK0ECTOn October 1, 2018 at 1:55 PM Thomas Beierlein
>  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > The coming tlf-1.3.1 should support the F-keys in xterm-256color
> > too. There was a fix from Stephen K6BSD some weeks ago. Just test
> > it please.
> > 
> > Just my 2 cents
> > 
> > 73, Tom DL1JBE
> > 
> > 
> > Am Mon, 1 Oct 2018 06:38:13 +0100
> > schrieb Juanjo EA8BGO :Other solution is this:
> >> 
> >> xterm -fa "Helvetica" -fs 14
> >> 
> >> 73 de
> >> Juanjo
> >> EA8BGO
> >> 
> >> El mié., 26 sept. 2018 a las 13:27, Nate Bargmann ()
> >> escribió:
> >>> • On 2018 25 Sep 09:55 -0500, Eric Tamme wrote:
> >>> I just tested using Xterm, and the issue does not occur. I would
>  liketo beable to use gnome-terminal if possible though. Have you
>  got anysuggestions onhow I might go about getting that figured
>  out?Hi Eric.
> >>> 
> >>> I would recommend using xterm since it doesn't trap the F11 key,
> >>> for example. I use uxterm (xterm with unicode support) with a
> >>> custom ~/.Xresources which I have attached. I have defined xterm
> >>> colors that work well with Tlf for me. Also, be aware that other
> >>> terminals often trap other keyboard sequences used by Tlf.
> >>> 
> >>> Another thing is that xterm and ncurses (the UI toolkit Tlf uses)
> >>> have the same maintainer so they work well together.
> >>> 
> >>> 73, Nate
> >>> 
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Re: [Tlf-devel] first time user F1-F3 questions

[Ervin Hegedüs]

Hi Eric,

On Mon, Oct 01, 2018 at 02:09:18PM -0400, Eric Tamme wrote:
> Is this just current master, or is there a branch or tag yet for this release?

as you can see, the master branch of Tlf/tlf repo contains
Stephen's related commit:

https://github.com/Tlf/tlf/commit/a280f99a6b079c53ed883603245b3875f54ebc1a

here are all commits of master branch:

https://github.com/Tlf/tlf/commits/master



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Re: [Tlf-devel] first time user F1-F3 questions

[Eric Tamme]

Hey Tom,I just rebuilt master.  F1-F3 etc. seem to work fine now in xterm-256color.  The colors are a a bit unusable, but the function keys seem to be OK.-Eric / KK0ECTOn October 1, 2018 at 1:55 PM Thomas Beierlein  wrote:The coming tlf-1.3.1 should support the F-keys in xterm-256color too.There was a fix from Stephen K6BSD some weeks ago. Just test it please.Just my 2 cents73, Tom DL1JBEAm Mon, 1 Oct 2018 06:38:13 +0100schrieb Juanjo EA8BGO :Other solution is this:xterm -fa "Helvetica" -fs 1473 deJuanjoEA8BGOEl mié., 26 sept. 2018 a las 13:27, Nate Bargmann ()escribió:On 2018 25 Sep 09:55 -0500, Eric Tamme wrote:I just tested using Xterm, and the issue does not occur. I wouldliketo beable to use gnome-terminal if possible though. Have you got anysuggestions onhow I might go about getting that figured out?Hi Eric.I would recommend using xterm since it doesn't trap the F11 key, forexample. I use uxterm (xterm with unicode support) with a custom~/.Xresources which I have attached. I have defined xterm colorsthat work well with Tlf for me. Also, be aware that otherterminals often trap other keyboard sequences used by Tlf.Another thing is that xterm and ncurses (the UI toolkit Tlf uses)have the same maintainer so they work well together.73, Nate--"The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of allpossible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true."Web: http://www.n0nb.us GPG key: D55A8819 GitHub: N0NB___Tlf-devel mailing listTlf-devel@nongnu.orghttps://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/tlf-devel-- "Do what is needful!"Ursula LeGuin: Earthsea--___Tlf-devel mailing listTlf-devel@nongnu.orghttps://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/tlf-devel
 

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Re: [Tlf-devel] first time user F1-F3 questions

[Eric Tamme]

Is this just current master, or is there a branch or tag yet for this release?On October 1, 2018 at 1:55 PM Thomas Beierlein  wrote:The coming tlf-1.3.1 should support the F-keys in xterm-256color too.There was a fix from Stephen K6BSD some weeks ago. Just test it please.Just my 2 cents73, Tom DL1JBEAm Mon, 1 Oct 2018 06:38:13 +0100schrieb Juanjo EA8BGO :Other solution is this:xterm -fa "Helvetica" -fs 1473 deJuanjoEA8BGOEl mié., 26 sept. 2018 a las 13:27, Nate Bargmann ()escribió:On 2018 25 Sep 09:55 -0500, Eric Tamme wrote:I just tested using Xterm, and the issue does not occur. I wouldliketo beable to use gnome-terminal if possible though. Have you got anysuggestions onhow I might go about getting that figured out?Hi Eric.I would recommend using xterm since it doesn't trap the F11 key, forexample. I use uxterm (xterm with unicode support) with a custom~/.Xresources which I have attached. I have defined xterm colorsthat work well with Tlf for me. Also, be aware that otherterminals often trap other keyboard sequences used by Tlf.Another thing is that xterm and ncurses (the UI toolkit Tlf uses)have the same maintainer so they work well together.73, Nate--"The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of allpossible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true."Web: http://www.n0nb.us GPG key: D55A8819 GitHub: N0NB___Tlf-devel mailing listTlf-devel@nongnu.orghttps://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/tlf-devel-- "Do what is needful!"Ursula LeGuin: Earthsea--___Tlf-devel mailing listTlf-devel@nongnu.orghttps://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/tlf-devel
 

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Re: [Tlf-devel] first time user F1-F3 questions

[Thomas Beierlein]

The coming tlf-1.3.1 should support the F-keys in xterm-256color too.
There was a fix from Stephen K6BSD some weeks ago. Just test it please.

Just my 2 cents

73, Tom DL1JBE


Am Mon, 1 Oct 2018 06:38:13 +0100
schrieb Juanjo EA8BGO :

> Other solution is this:
> 
> xterm -fa "Helvetica" -fs 14
> 
> 73 de
> Juanjo
> EA8BGO
> 
> El mié., 26 sept. 2018 a las 13:27, Nate Bargmann ()
> escribió:
> 
> > * On 2018 25 Sep 09:55 -0500, Eric Tamme wrote:  
> > > I just tested using Xterm, and the issue does not occur.  I would
> > > like  
> > to be  
> > > able to use gnome-terminal if possible though.  Have you got any  
> > suggestions on  
> > > how I might go about getting that figured out?  
> >
> > Hi Eric.
> >
> > I would recommend using xterm since it doesn't trap the F11 key, for
> > example.  I use uxterm (xterm with unicode support) with a custom
> > ~/.Xresources which I have attached.  I have defined xterm colors
> > that work well with Tlf for me.  Also, be aware that other
> > terminals often trap other keyboard sequences used by Tlf.
> >
> > Another thing is that xterm and ncurses (the UI toolkit Tlf uses)
> > have the same maintainer so they work well together.
> >
> > 73, Nate
> >
> > --
> >
> > "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all
> > possible worlds.  The pessimist fears this is true."
> >
> > Web: http://www.n0nb.us  GPG key: D55A8819  GitHub: N0NB
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Re: [Tlf-devel] first time user F1-F3 questions

[Juanjo EA8BGO]

Other solution is this:

xterm -fa "Helvetica" -fs 14

73 de
Juanjo
EA8BGO

El mié., 26 sept. 2018 a las 13:27, Nate Bargmann () escribió:

> * On 2018 25 Sep 09:55 -0500, Eric Tamme wrote:
> > I just tested using Xterm, and the issue does not occur.  I would like
> to be
> > able to use gnome-terminal if possible though.  Have you got any
> suggestions on
> > how I might go about getting that figured out?
>
> Hi Eric.
>
> I would recommend using xterm since it doesn't trap the F11 key, for
> example.  I use uxterm (xterm with unicode support) with a custom
> ~/.Xresources which I have attached.  I have defined xterm colors that
> work well with Tlf for me.  Also, be aware that other terminals often
> trap other keyboard sequences used by Tlf.
>
> Another thing is that xterm and ncurses (the UI toolkit Tlf uses) have
> the same maintainer so they work well together.
>
> 73, Nate
>
> --
>
> "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all
> possible worlds.  The pessimist fears this is true."
>
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Re: [Tlf-devel] first time user F1-F3 questions

[Nate Bargmann]

* On 2018 25 Sep 09:55 -0500, Eric Tamme wrote:
> I just tested using Xterm, and the issue does not occur.  I would like to be
> able to use gnome-terminal if possible though.  Have you got any suggestions 
> on
> how I might go about getting that figured out?

Hi Eric.

I would recommend using xterm since it doesn't trap the F11 key, for
example.  I use uxterm (xterm with unicode support) with a custom
~/.Xresources which I have attached.  I have defined xterm colors that
work well with Tlf for me.  Also, be aware that other terminals often
trap other keyboard sequences used by Tlf.

Another thing is that xterm and ncurses (the UI toolkit Tlf uses) have
the same maintainer so they work well together.

73, Nate

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Re: [Tlf-devel] first time user F1-F3 questions

[Ervin Hegedüs]

Hi Eric,

On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 10:53:51AM -0400, Eric Tamme wrote:

> I just tested using Xterm, and the issue does not occur.  I would
> like to be able to use gnome-terminal if possible though.  Have
> you got any suggestions on how I might go about getting that
> figured out?

okay, I've installed gnome-terminal, and can reproduce your
problem.

You can prevent this issue with this way:

$ export TERM=xterm
$ tlf ...

but (after few seconds of testing) don't forget to set up your
shortkeys - on my side the F1 opens the help window of
Gnome-terminal... you can disable it at this way:

edit -> settings -> shortkeys (2nd tab from left) -> scroll to
"Help", there is the "F1" -> click to "F1" -> F1 changed to "New
shortcut" -> press "BACKSPACE" -> shortcut changed to "Disabled"

Hope this helps - I'm using hungarian labels :).



73, Ervin



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Re: [Tlf-devel] first time user F1-F3 questions

[Eric Tamme]

I just tested using Xterm, and the issue does not occur.  I would like to be able to use gnome-terminal if possible though.  Have you got any suggestions on how I might go about getting that figured out?On September 25, 2018 at 10:43 AM Ervin Hegedüs  wrote:Hi Eric,On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 10:23:46AM -0400, Eric Tamme wrote:Im a first time TLF user, looking for a console based logger forcontesting on a linux machine.Welcome in out club! :)I've got things set up, but it seems that my function keys F1,F2, and F3 do not ... do what they should be doing. My Top bar has "1=CQ 2=DE 3=RST 4=73 ... " but the only Functionkeys that appear to map correctly are F6-F9, which send my call,the dupe message, AGN, and ? respectively.which version are you using?(tlf -V)what you get when you type this command in terminal?$ echo $TERMMy result:$ echo $TERMxtermIf I could get some guidance on how to get my Function keysworking properly, I think I could get TLF working well for myuses.Fn keys are mapped for correct messages, but you can modify themof course - but I think your problem is not that, guess someterminal settings.Which terminal emulator do you have?73, ErvinHA2OS
 

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Re: [Tlf-devel] first time user F1-F3 questions

[Eric Tamme]

Hi Ervin,I have tested compiling the 1.3 tag, as well as the version packaged in ubuntu 18.04 repos, but report as Version: tlf-1.3.0.Source compiled from tag 1.3:./tlf -VVersion: tlf-1.3.0From repos:tlf -VVersion: tlf-1.3.0$ echo $TERMxterm-256colorI am using GNOME Terminal 3.28.2-Eric / KK0ECTOn September 25, 2018 at 10:43 AM Ervin Hegedüs  wrote:Hi Eric,On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 10:23:46AM -0400, Eric Tamme wrote:Im a first time TLF user, looking for a console based logger forcontesting on a linux machine.Welcome in out club! :)I've got things set up, but it seems that my function keys F1,F2, and F3 do not ... do what they should be doing. My Top bar has "1=CQ 2=DE 3=RST 4=73 ... " but the only Functionkeys that appear to map correctly are F6-F9, which send my call,the dupe message, AGN, and ? respectively.which version are you using?(tlf -V)what you get when you type this command in terminal?$ echo $TERMMy result:$ echo $TERMxtermIf I could get some guidance on how to get my Function keysworking properly, I think I could get TLF working well for myuses.Fn keys are mapped for correct messages, but you can modify themof course - but I think your problem is not that, guess someterminal settings.Which terminal emulator do you have?73, ErvinHA2OS
 

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Re: [Tlf-devel] first time user F1-F3 questions

[Ervin Hegedüs]

Hi Eric,

On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 10:23:46AM -0400, Eric Tamme wrote:
> Im a first time TLF user, looking for a console based logger for
> contesting on a linux machine.  

Welcome in out club! :)

> I've got things set up, but it seems that my function keys F1,
> F2, and F3 do not ... do what they should be doing.  
> 
> 
> My Top bar has "1=CQ 2=DE 3=RST 4=73 ... " but the only Function
> keys that appear to map correctly are  F6-F9, which send my call,
> the dupe message, AGN, and ?  respectively.  

which version are you using?

(tlf -V)

what you get when you type this command in terminal?

$ echo $TERM

My result:

$ echo $TERM
xterm
 
> If I could get some guidance on how to get my Function keys
> working properly, I think I could get TLF working well for my
> uses.

Fn keys are mapped for correct messages, but you can modify them
of course - but I think your problem is not that, guess some
terminal settings.

Which terminal emulator do you have?



73, Ervin
HA2OS

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