RE: Tomcat Benchmarking / Load Testing

2004-08-31 Thread Shapira, Yoav

Hi,
There are some entries on the FAQ (Misc section I think is where I put it), but it's 
far from complete.  No one wants to give out details, it's all 
confidential/proprietary/security-constrained information.

Yoav Shapira
Millennium Research Informatics


-Original Message-
From: Gaurav Vaish [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 12:20 AM
To: Tomcat Developers List
Subject: Re: Tomcat Benchmarking / Load Testing

Hi Rémy,

  Thanks for your response.

  In anycase, is there a list of people / companies using Tomcat
(standalone or with Apache)?



Happy Hacking,
Gaurav Vaish
http://gallery.mastergaurav.net
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On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 23:51:22 +0200, Remy Maucherat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Gaurav Vaish wrote:

 Hi,
 
   I am looking for some good case-study on Tomcat loadtest and
benchmarking.
 
   It may or may not be with mod_jk(2) however a study with the
 following paramters would be useful:
 
   - JDK Version
   - Tomcat version
   - OS (with version and SPs)
   - Apache Version (if not standalone)
   - Concurrent Users (Threads)
   - Response Time
 
   The problem is that we have a e-Learning application running on
 Tomcat 4.x (planning to migrate to 5.x) which faced severe problems
 when put on production server. Stress testing in labs were passed
 gracefully, however it gives several issues with around 500 concurrent
 users on the production server.
 
   In anycase, which would be more scalable (load) - standalone Tomcat
 or with Apache/mod_jk?
 
 
The details of the production server are:
 
   - Red Hat Enterprise Server 9.0
   - Kernel 2.4.9
   - JDK 1.4.2 (Sun JDK)
   - Tomcat 4.0 (Standalone)
   - 2048MB RAM
   - 4-Processor CPU (2GHz each), Intel 386
 
 
 Tomcat 5.0 is faster than 4.1 which is faster than 4.0, but we don't
 have any numbers to give you.
 Feel free to contribute results.

 Rémy

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Re: Tomcat Benchmarking / Load Testing

2004-08-31 Thread Peter Lin
there's plenty of big sites using tomcat. They just don't say it. I
know several sites getting millions of page views a day using tomcat
just fine.

peter


On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 09:49:32 +0530, Gaurav Vaish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Rémy,
 
  Thanks for your response.
 
  In anycase, is there a list of people / companies using Tomcat
 (standalone or with Apache)?
 
 Happy Hacking,
 Gaurav Vaish
 http://gallery.mastergaurav.net
 --
 
 
 
 
 On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 23:51:22 +0200, Remy Maucherat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  Gaurav Vaish wrote:
 
  Hi,
  
I am looking for some good case-study on Tomcat loadtest and benchmarking.
  
It may or may not be with mod_jk(2) however a study with the
  following paramters would be useful:
  
- JDK Version
- Tomcat version
- OS (with version and SPs)
- Apache Version (if not standalone)
- Concurrent Users (Threads)
- Response Time
  
The problem is that we have a e-Learning application running on
  Tomcat 4.x (planning to migrate to 5.x) which faced severe problems
  when put on production server. Stress testing in labs were passed
  gracefully, however it gives several issues with around 500 concurrent
  users on the production server.
  
In anycase, which would be more scalable (load) - standalone Tomcat
  or with Apache/mod_jk?
  
  
 The details of the production server are:
  
- Red Hat Enterprise Server 9.0
- Kernel 2.4.9
- JDK 1.4.2 (Sun JDK)
- Tomcat 4.0 (Standalone)
- 2048MB RAM
- 4-Processor CPU (2GHz each), Intel 386
  
  
  Tomcat 5.0 is faster than 4.1 which is faster than 4.0, but we don't
  have any numbers to give you.
  Feel free to contribute results.
 
  Rémy
 
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Re: Tomcat Benchmarking / Load Testing

2004-08-31 Thread Gaurav Vaish
Can you please name a few?


Happy Hacking,
Gaurav Vaish
ttp://gallery.mastergaurav.net
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On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 08:11:50 -0500, Peter Lin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 there's plenty of big sites using tomcat. They just don't say it. I
 know several sites getting millions of page views a day using tomcat
 just fine.
 
 peter
 
 
 
 
 On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 09:49:32 +0530, Gaurav Vaish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi Rémy,
 
   Thanks for your response.
 
   In anycase, is there a list of people / companies using Tomcat
  (standalone or with Apache)?
 
  Happy Hacking,
  Gaurav Vaish
  http://gallery.mastergaurav.net
  --
 
 
 
 
  On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 23:51:22 +0200, Remy Maucherat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
   Gaurav Vaish wrote:
  
   Hi,
   
 I am looking for some good case-study on Tomcat loadtest and benchmarking.
   
 It may or may not be with mod_jk(2) however a study with the
   following paramters would be useful:
   
 - JDK Version
 - Tomcat version
 - OS (with version and SPs)
 - Apache Version (if not standalone)
 - Concurrent Users (Threads)
 - Response Time
   
 The problem is that we have a e-Learning application running on
   Tomcat 4.x (planning to migrate to 5.x) which faced severe problems
   when put on production server. Stress testing in labs were passed
   gracefully, however it gives several issues with around 500 concurrent
   users on the production server.
   
 In anycase, which would be more scalable (load) - standalone Tomcat
   or with Apache/mod_jk?
   
   
  The details of the production server are:
   
 - Red Hat Enterprise Server 9.0
 - Kernel 2.4.9
 - JDK 1.4.2 (Sun JDK)
 - Tomcat 4.0 (Standalone)
 - 2048MB RAM
 - 4-Processor CPU (2GHz each), Intel 386
   
   
   Tomcat 5.0 is faster than 4.1 which is faster than 4.0, but we don't
   have any numbers to give you.
   Feel free to contribute results.
  
   Rémy
  
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RE: Tomcat Benchmarking / Load Testing

2004-08-31 Thread Shapira, Yoav

Hi,
I'm sure he would if he could, but as I said they're mostly confidential.  This is 
getting off-topic for the tomcat-dev list, please continue discussion on tomcat-user 
if you'd like.

Yoav Shapira
Millennium Research Informatics


-Original Message-
From: Gaurav Vaish [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 9:39 AM
To: Peter Lin
Cc: Tomcat Developers List
Subject: Re: Tomcat Benchmarking / Load Testing

Can you please name a few?


Happy Hacking,
Gaurav Vaish
ttp://gallery.mastergaurav.net
--



On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 08:11:50 -0500, Peter Lin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 there's plenty of big sites using tomcat. They just don't say it. I
 know several sites getting millions of page views a day using tomcat
 just fine.

 peter




 On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 09:49:32 +0530, Gaurav Vaish [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
  Hi Rémy,
 
   Thanks for your response.
 
   In anycase, is there a list of people / companies using Tomcat
  (standalone or with Apache)?
 
  Happy Hacking,
  Gaurav Vaish
  http://gallery.mastergaurav.net
  --
 
 
 
 
  On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 23:51:22 +0200, Remy Maucherat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
  
  
   Gaurav Vaish wrote:
  
   Hi,
   
 I am looking for some good case-study on Tomcat loadtest and
benchmarking.
   
 It may or may not be with mod_jk(2) however a study with the
   following paramters would be useful:
   
 - JDK Version
 - Tomcat version
 - OS (with version and SPs)
 - Apache Version (if not standalone)
 - Concurrent Users (Threads)
 - Response Time
   
 The problem is that we have a e-Learning application running on
   Tomcat 4.x (planning to migrate to 5.x) which faced severe problems
   when put on production server. Stress testing in labs were passed
   gracefully, however it gives several issues with around 500
concurrent
   users on the production server.
   
 In anycase, which would be more scalable (load) - standalone
Tomcat
   or with Apache/mod_jk?
   
   
  The details of the production server are:
   
 - Red Hat Enterprise Server 9.0
 - Kernel 2.4.9
 - JDK 1.4.2 (Sun JDK)
 - Tomcat 4.0 (Standalone)
 - 2048MB RAM
 - 4-Processor CPU (2GHz each), Intel 386
   
   
   Tomcat 5.0 is faster than 4.1 which is faster than 4.0, but we don't
   have any numbers to give you.
   Feel free to contribute results.
  
   Rémy
  
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Re: Tomcat Benchmarking / Load Testing

2004-08-31 Thread Sandy McArthur
We, University of Florida, use Tomcat 5 for our webapps when we can. 
(We also use WebSphere and WebLogic when needed.)

Our largest use of Tomcat is with our webmail cluster. You can find 
some stats for that at: http://webstats.ufl.edu/webmail.ufl.edu/ (Note: 
that the monthly reports are behind because of problems with analog on 
AIX.)

Yesterday during peak usage we were handling 55 request per second: 
http://webstats.ufl.edu/webmail.ufl.edu/daily-2004-08-30.html#hoursum

Our setup is 3 machines running Apache HTTPD with mod_jk load balancing 
to 4 machines running Tomcat 5. While all of those machines are beefy 
quad CPU boxes with between 2 to 8 gig of ram none of them are single 
purpose machines.

Our Apache HTTPD machines serve over a hundred virtual hosts, so there 
are a lot of other factors which makes it hard for me to assert any 
performance numbers of our tomcat setup. I can say our last problems 
with our webmail setup stemmed from running out of simultaneous 
connections in apache httpd when all the students returned this past 
fall. The 4 boxes running tomcat is overpowered to handle any surge in 
usage and I haven't seen their CPU load cross 33%.

On Aug 31, 2004, at 9:39 AM, Gaurav Vaish wrote:
Can you please name a few?
On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 08:11:50 -0500, Peter Lin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
there's plenty of big sites using tomcat. They just don't say it. I
know several sites getting millions of page views a day using tomcat
just fine.
--
Sandy McArthur
Government big enough to supply everything you
need is big enough to take everything you have ...
The course of history shows that as a government
grows, liberty decreases. -- Thomas Jefferson


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RE: Tomcat Benchmarking / Load Testing

2004-08-31 Thread Shapira, Yoav

Hi,
Thanks for sharing.
(FAQ'ed)

Yoav Shapira
Millennium Research Informatics


-Original Message-
From: Sandy McArthur [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 11:19 AM
To: Tomcat Developers List
Subject: Re: Tomcat Benchmarking / Load Testing

We, University of Florida, use Tomcat 5 for our webapps when we can.
(We also use WebSphere and WebLogic when needed.)

Our largest use of Tomcat is with our webmail cluster. You can find
some stats for that at: http://webstats.ufl.edu/webmail.ufl.edu/ (Note:
that the monthly reports are behind because of problems with analog on
AIX.)

Yesterday during peak usage we were handling 55 request per second:
http://webstats.ufl.edu/webmail.ufl.edu/daily-2004-08-30.html#hoursum

Our setup is 3 machines running Apache HTTPD with mod_jk load balancing
to 4 machines running Tomcat 5. While all of those machines are beefy
quad CPU boxes with between 2 to 8 gig of ram none of them are single
purpose machines.

Our Apache HTTPD machines serve over a hundred virtual hosts, so there
are a lot of other factors which makes it hard for me to assert any
performance numbers of our tomcat setup. I can say our last problems
with our webmail setup stemmed from running out of simultaneous
connections in apache httpd when all the students returned this past
fall. The 4 boxes running tomcat is overpowered to handle any surge in
usage and I haven't seen their CPU load cross 33%.

On Aug 31, 2004, at 9:39 AM, Gaurav Vaish wrote:

 Can you please name a few?

 On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 08:11:50 -0500, Peter Lin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 there's plenty of big sites using tomcat. They just don't say it. I
 know several sites getting millions of page views a day using tomcat
 just fine.

--
Sandy McArthur

Government big enough to supply everything you
need is big enough to take everything you have ...
The course of history shows that as a government
grows, liberty decreases. -- Thomas Jefferson



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Re: Tomcat Benchmarking / Load Testing

2004-08-31 Thread Gaurav Vaish
Hello Sandy,

  Great thanks for sharing this piece of information. I am pretty
confident that this would definitely assist me in my work.

  However, I just wonder what tool did you use to create this
statistics which is simply awsome!


Happy Hacking,
Gaurav Vaish
http://gallery.mastergaurav.net
---



On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 11:19:26 -0400, Sandy McArthur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 We, University of Florida, use Tomcat 5 for our webapps when we can.
 (We also use WebSphere and WebLogic when needed.)
 
 Our largest use of Tomcat is with our webmail cluster. You can find
 some stats for that at: http://webstats.ufl.edu/webmail.ufl.edu/ (Note:
 that the monthly reports are behind because of problems with analog on
 AIX.)
 
 Yesterday during peak usage we were handling 55 request per second:
 http://webstats.ufl.edu/webmail.ufl.edu/daily-2004-08-30.html#hoursum
 
 Our setup is 3 machines running Apache HTTPD with mod_jk load balancing
 to 4 machines running Tomcat 5. While all of those machines are beefy
 quad CPU boxes with between 2 to 8 gig of ram none of them are single
 purpose machines.
 
 Our Apache HTTPD machines serve over a hundred virtual hosts, so there
 are a lot of other factors which makes it hard for me to assert any
 performance numbers of our tomcat setup. I can say our last problems
 with our webmail setup stemmed from running out of simultaneous
 connections in apache httpd when all the students returned this past
 fall. The 4 boxes running tomcat is overpowered to handle any surge in
 usage and I haven't seen their CPU load cross 33%.
 
 On Aug 31, 2004, at 9:39 AM, Gaurav Vaish wrote:
 
  Can you please name a few?
 
  On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 08:11:50 -0500, Peter Lin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
  there's plenty of big sites using tomcat. They just don't say it. I
  know several sites getting millions of page views a day using tomcat
  just fine.
 
 --
 Sandy McArthur
 
 Government big enough to supply everything you
 need is big enough to take everything you have ...
 The course of history shows that as a government
 grows, liberty decreases. -- Thomas Jefferson
 
 


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Re: Tomcat Benchmarking / Load Testing

2004-08-30 Thread Remy Maucherat
Gaurav Vaish wrote:
Hi,
 I am looking for some good case-study on Tomcat loadtest and benchmarking.
 It may or may not be with mod_jk(2) however a study with the
following paramters would be useful:
 - JDK Version
 - Tomcat version
 - OS (with version and SPs)
 - Apache Version (if not standalone)
 - Concurrent Users (Threads)
 - Response Time
 The problem is that we have a e-Learning application running on
Tomcat 4.x (planning to migrate to 5.x) which faced severe problems
when put on production server. Stress testing in labs were passed
gracefully, however it gives several issues with around 500 concurrent
users on the production server.
 In anycase, which would be more scalable (load) - standalone Tomcat
or with Apache/mod_jk?
  The details of the production server are:
 - Red Hat Enterprise Server 9.0
 - Kernel 2.4.9
 - JDK 1.4.2 (Sun JDK)
 - Tomcat 4.0 (Standalone)
 - 2048MB RAM
 - 4-Processor CPU (2GHz each), Intel 386
 

Tomcat 5.0 is faster than 4.1 which is faster than 4.0, but we don't 
have any numbers to give you.
Feel free to contribute results.

Rémy
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Re: Tomcat Benchmarking / Load Testing

2004-08-30 Thread Gaurav Vaish
Hi Rémy,

  Thanks for your response.

  In anycase, is there a list of people / companies using Tomcat
(standalone or with Apache)?



Happy Hacking,
Gaurav Vaish
http://gallery.mastergaurav.net
--


On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 23:51:22 +0200, Remy Maucherat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 Gaurav Vaish wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
   I am looking for some good case-study on Tomcat loadtest and benchmarking.
 
   It may or may not be with mod_jk(2) however a study with the
 following paramters would be useful:
 
   - JDK Version
   - Tomcat version
   - OS (with version and SPs)
   - Apache Version (if not standalone)
   - Concurrent Users (Threads)
   - Response Time
 
   The problem is that we have a e-Learning application running on
 Tomcat 4.x (planning to migrate to 5.x) which faced severe problems
 when put on production server. Stress testing in labs were passed
 gracefully, however it gives several issues with around 500 concurrent
 users on the production server.
 
   In anycase, which would be more scalable (load) - standalone Tomcat
 or with Apache/mod_jk?
 
 
The details of the production server are:
 
   - Red Hat Enterprise Server 9.0
   - Kernel 2.4.9
   - JDK 1.4.2 (Sun JDK)
   - Tomcat 4.0 (Standalone)
   - 2048MB RAM
   - 4-Processor CPU (2GHz each), Intel 386
 
 
 Tomcat 5.0 is faster than 4.1 which is faster than 4.0, but we don't
 have any numbers to give you.
 Feel free to contribute results.
 
 Rémy
 
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