RE : [offtopic] Architecture Question

2003-12-05 Thread Laurent Michenaud
What do u use to run the web services ?

Jonas ? Jboss ?

Is there a component that just do Web Services ? I don't need
all the functionnalies of Jboss or Jonas.

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At 05:51 AM 12/4/2003, you wrote:

Howdy,
In a similar situation we use a web service running on another (3rd)
tomcat server.  It's worked well, especially as we've added more
applications beyond our original two.

Agreed.  This is the cleanest long-term solution I've come across as it 
clearly defines responsibility boundaries between your 
apps/components.  It's more work than other (IMO hackish) solutions, but 
opens up so many more possibilities once you've got it up and running.

Yoav Shapira
Millennium ChemInformatics

justin



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 Subject: Re: [offtopic] Architecture Question
 
 Laurent Michenaud wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 
 Hi laurent,
 
 
 We have two tomcat servers.
 One is located at our enterprise.
 The other is located at our hosting provider.
 They can see each other by Internet.
 
 We would like to set up an unique authentification system for both
 server.
 The authentification system will be on the server at our entreprise.
 The web applications on both servers will query the authentification
 system.
 
 What's the best/clean/nice way to do this ?
 JAAS ? Web services ? SSL keys ?
 
 


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Re: RE : [offtopic] Architecture Question

2003-12-05 Thread Ben Souther
Have you looked at Axis?
http://xml.apache.org/axis



On Friday 05 December 2003 05:22 am, you wrote:
 What do u use to run the web services ?

 Jonas ? Jboss ?

 Is there a component that just do Web Services ? I don't need
 all the functionnalies of Jboss or Jonas.

 -Message d'origine-
 De : Justin Ruthenbeck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Envoyé : jeudi 4 décembre 2003 19:42
 À : Tomcat Users List
 Objet : RE: [offtopic] Architecture Question

 At 05:51 AM 12/4/2003, you wrote:
 Howdy,
 In a similar situation we use a web service running on another (3rd)
 tomcat server.  It's worked well, especially as we've added more
 applications beyond our original two.

 Agreed.  This is the cleanest long-term solution I've come across as it
 clearly defines responsibility boundaries between your
 apps/components.  It's more work than other (IMO hackish) solutions, but
 opens up so many more possibilities once you've got it up and running.

 Yoav Shapira
 Millennium ChemInformatics

 justin

  -Original Message-
  From: jerome moliere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 6:51 AM
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  Subject: Re: [offtopic] Architecture Question
  
  Laurent Michenaud wrote:
  Hi,
  
  Hi laurent,
  
  We have two tomcat servers.
  One is located at our enterprise.
  The other is located at our hosting provider.
  They can see each other by Internet.
  
  We would like to set up an unique authentification system for both
  server.
  The authentification system will be on the server at our entreprise.
  The web applications on both servers will query the authentification
  system.
  
  What's the best/clean/nice way to do this ?
  JAAS ? Web services ? SSL keys ?

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RE: RE : [offtopic] Architecture Question

2003-12-05 Thread Shapira, Yoav

Howdy,
I use Axis on Tomcat, of course ;)

Yoav Shapira
Millennium ChemInformatics


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From: Ben Souther [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 6:24 AM
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Subject: Re: RE : [offtopic] Architecture Question

Have you looked at Axis?
http://xml.apache.org/axis



On Friday 05 December 2003 05:22 am, you wrote:
 What do u use to run the web services ?

 Jonas ? Jboss ?

 Is there a component that just do Web Services ? I don't need
 all the functionnalies of Jboss or Jonas.

 -Message d'origine-
 De : Justin Ruthenbeck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Envoyé : jeudi 4 décembre 2003 19:42
 À : Tomcat Users List
 Objet : RE: [offtopic] Architecture Question

 At 05:51 AM 12/4/2003, you wrote:
 Howdy,
 In a similar situation we use a web service running on another (3rd)
 tomcat server.  It's worked well, especially as we've added more
 applications beyond our original two.

 Agreed.  This is the cleanest long-term solution I've come across as it
 clearly defines responsibility boundaries between your
 apps/components.  It's more work than other (IMO hackish) solutions, but
 opens up so many more possibilities once you've got it up and running.

 Yoav Shapira
 Millennium ChemInformatics

 justin

  -Original Message-
  From: jerome moliere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 6:51 AM
  To: Tomcat Users List
  Subject: Re: [offtopic] Architecture Question
  
  Laurent Michenaud wrote:
  Hi,
  
  Hi laurent,
  
  We have two tomcat servers.
  One is located at our enterprise.
  The other is located at our hosting provider.
  They can see each other by Internet.
  
  We would like to set up an unique authentification system for both
  server.
  The authentification system will be on the server at our entreprise.
  The web applications on both servers will query the authentification
  system.
  
  What's the best/clean/nice way to do this ?
  JAAS ? Web services ? SSL keys ?

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RE: RE : [offtopic] Architecture Question

2003-12-05 Thread Yiannis Mavroukakis

Amen brother :)

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Howdy,
I use Axis on Tomcat, of course ;)

Yoav Shapira
Millennium ChemInformatics


-Original Message-
From: Ben Souther [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 6:24 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: RE : [offtopic] Architecture Question

Have you looked at Axis?
http://xml.apache.org/axis



On Friday 05 December 2003 05:22 am, you wrote:
 What do u use to run the web services ?

 Jonas ? Jboss ?

 Is there a component that just do Web Services ? I don't need
 all the functionnalies of Jboss or Jonas.

 -Message d'origine-
 De : Justin Ruthenbeck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Envoyé : jeudi 4 décembre 2003 19:42
 À : Tomcat Users List
 Objet : RE: [offtopic] Architecture Question

 At 05:51 AM 12/4/2003, you wrote:
 Howdy,
 In a similar situation we use a web service running on another (3rd)
 tomcat server.  It's worked well, especially as we've added more
 applications beyond our original two.

 Agreed.  This is the cleanest long-term solution I've come across as it
 clearly defines responsibility boundaries between your
 apps/components.  It's more work than other (IMO hackish) solutions, but
 opens up so many more possibilities once you've got it up and running.

 Yoav Shapira
 Millennium ChemInformatics

 justin

  -Original Message-
  From: jerome moliere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 6:51 AM
  To: Tomcat Users List
  Subject: Re: [offtopic] Architecture Question
  
  Laurent Michenaud wrote:
  Hi,
  
  Hi laurent,
  
  We have two tomcat servers.
  One is located at our enterprise.
  The other is located at our hosting provider.
  They can see each other by Internet.
  
  We would like to set up an unique authentification system for both
  server.
  The authentification system will be on the server at our entreprise.
  The web applications on both servers will query the authentification
  system.
  
  What's the best/clean/nice way to do this ?
  JAAS ? Web services ? SSL keys ?

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[offtopic] Architecture Question

2003-12-04 Thread Laurent Michenaud
Hi,
 
We have two tomcat servers.
One is located at our enterprise.
The other is located at our hosting provider.
They can see each other by Internet.
 
We would like to set up an unique authentification system for both
server.
The authentification system will be on the server at our entreprise.
The web applications on both servers will query the authentification
system.
 
What's the best/clean/nice way to do this ?
JAAS ? Web services ? SSL keys ?
 
 
Thanks


Re: [offtopic] Architecture Question

2003-12-04 Thread jerome moliere
Laurent Michenaud wrote:

Hi,
 

Hi laurent,

We have two tomcat servers.
One is located at our enterprise.
The other is located at our hosting provider.
They can see each other by Internet.
We would like to set up an unique authentification system for both
server.
The authentification system will be on the server at our entreprise.
The web applications on both servers will query the authentification
system.
What's the best/clean/nice way to do this ?
JAAS ? Web services ? SSL keys ?
 

JAAS is obviously a good way (the smartest one maybe ? :) )
But using the configuration file with the same authentication 
configuration could be enough...
That is to say using Realm tags in your server.xml config files 
(JDBCRealm or JNDIREalm if you set up LDAP ) are valuable solutions
HTH
Jerome

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RE: [offtopic] Architecture Question

2003-12-04 Thread Shapira, Yoav

Howdy,
In a similar situation we use a web service running on another (3rd)
tomcat server.  It's worked well, especially as we've added more
applications beyond our original two.

Yoav Shapira
Millennium ChemInformatics


-Original Message-
From: jerome moliere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 6:51 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: [offtopic] Architecture Question

Laurent Michenaud wrote:

Hi,


Hi laurent,


We have two tomcat servers.
One is located at our enterprise.
The other is located at our hosting provider.
They can see each other by Internet.

We would like to set up an unique authentification system for both
server.
The authentification system will be on the server at our entreprise.
The web applications on both servers will query the authentification
system.

What's the best/clean/nice way to do this ?
JAAS ? Web services ? SSL keys ?


JAAS is obviously a good way (the smartest one maybe ? :) )
But using the configuration file with the same authentication
configuration could be enough...
That is to say using Realm tags in your server.xml config files
(JDBCRealm or JNDIREalm if you set up LDAP ) are valuable solutions
HTH
Jerome

--
Auteur cahier du programmeur Java tome 2 - Eyrolles 10/2003
http://www.eyrolles.com/php.informatique/Ouvrages/ouvrage.php3?ouv_ean1
3=97
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RE: [offtopic] Architecture Question

2003-12-04 Thread Justin Ruthenbeck
At 05:51 AM 12/4/2003, you wrote:

Howdy,
In a similar situation we use a web service running on another (3rd)
tomcat server.  It's worked well, especially as we've added more
applications beyond our original two.
Agreed.  This is the cleanest long-term solution I've come across as it 
clearly defines responsibility boundaries between your 
apps/components.  It's more work than other (IMO hackish) solutions, but 
opens up so many more possibilities once you've got it up and running.

Yoav Shapira
Millennium ChemInformatics
justin



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From: jerome moliere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 6:51 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: [offtopic] Architecture Question

Laurent Michenaud wrote:

Hi,


Hi laurent,


We have two tomcat servers.
One is located at our enterprise.
The other is located at our hosting provider.
They can see each other by Internet.

We would like to set up an unique authentification system for both
server.
The authentification system will be on the server at our entreprise.
The web applications on both servers will query the authentification
system.

What's the best/clean/nice way to do this ?
JAAS ? Web services ? SSL keys ?




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Re: [offtopic] Architecture Question

2003-12-04 Thread Robert Hall
Hi Yoav,

We are considering setting up a similar service here.
Would it be possible to get some architectural details
info for your Authentication Web Service?  Is it home
grown?
Regards,
Robert
Shapira, Yoav wrote:

Howdy,
In a similar situation we use a web service running on another (3rd)
tomcat server.  It's worked well, especially as we've added more
applications beyond our original two.
Yoav Shapira
Millennium ChemInformatics
 

-Original Message-
From: jerome moliere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 6:51 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: [offtopic] Architecture Question
Laurent Michenaud wrote:

   

Hi,

 

Hi laurent,

   

We have two tomcat servers.
One is located at our enterprise.
The other is located at our hosting provider.
They can see each other by Internet.
We would like to set up an unique authentification system for both
server.
The authentification system will be on the server at our entreprise.
The web applications on both servers will query the authentification
system.
What's the best/clean/nice way to do this ?
JAAS ? Web services ? SSL keys ?
 

JAAS is obviously a good way (the smartest one maybe ? :) )
But using the configuration file with the same authentication
configuration could be enough...
That is to say using Realm tags in your server.xml config files
(JDBCRealm or JNDIREalm if you set up LDAP ) are valuable solutions
HTH
Jerome
--
Auteur cahier du programmeur Java tome 2 - Eyrolles 10/2003
http://www.eyrolles.com/php.informatique/Ouvrages/ouvrage.php3?ouv_ean1
   

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RE: [offtopic] Architecture Question

2003-12-04 Thread Shapira, Yoav

Howdy,
It's home grown and simple.  I can't discuss its details for a few
reasons...

Yoav Shapira
Millennium ChemInformatics


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From: Robert Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 3:22 PM
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Subject: Re: [offtopic] Architecture Question

Hi Yoav,

We are considering setting up a similar service here.
Would it be possible to get some architectural details
info for your Authentication Web Service?  Is it home
grown?

Regards,
Robert

Shapira, Yoav wrote:

Howdy,
In a similar situation we use a web service running on another (3rd)
tomcat server.  It's worked well, especially as we've added more
applications beyond our original two.

Yoav Shapira
Millennium ChemInformatics




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From: jerome moliere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 6:51 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: [offtopic] Architecture Question

Laurent Michenaud wrote:



Hi,




Hi laurent,



We have two tomcat servers.
One is located at our enterprise.
The other is located at our hosting provider.
They can see each other by Internet.

We would like to set up an unique authentification system for both
server.
The authentification system will be on the server at our entreprise.
The web applications on both servers will query the authentification
system.

What's the best/clean/nice way to do this ?
JAAS ? Web services ? SSL keys ?




JAAS is obviously a good way (the smartest one maybe ? :) )
But using the configuration file with the same authentication
configuration could be enough...
That is to say using Realm tags in your server.xml config files
(JDBCRealm or JNDIREalm if you set up LDAP ) are valuable solutions
HTH
Jerome

--
Auteur cahier du programmeur Java tome 2 - Eyrolles 10/2003
http://www.eyrolles.com/php.informatique/Ouvrages/ouvrage.php3?ouv_ea
n1


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