Re: Auto start scripts

2003-12-03 Thread Nikola Milutinovic
Robin Rigby wrote:
Have very limited experience of Linux or Tomcat.  Not even really sure
if this is a Tomcat issue or a Linux issue.
Main question:  How do I run a Tomcat4 script from /etc/rc.d/init.d so
that Tomcat starts automatically?
Tomcat works fine when I run startup.sh as root.  However, common sense
and many passing references on the mailing list suggest that root is not
the best choice.  

- What user do people normally use?
- Should I create a user for the purpose?
- What attributes and permissions should it have?
- Is this related to the tomcat tomcat element in the default
tomcat-users.xml?
I'd sugest:

- download TC-4.1.24 RPMs and install them
- study it, see how it arranges files, permissions, etc...
- configure your own TC 4.1.29 accordingly
- or just (carefully) paste 4.1.29 over existing 4.1.24 RPM install
Setting up TC correctly or, even more, building your own RPMs can be very time 
consuming. The layout of 4.1.24 RPMs seams OK to me. There is a site, JPackage, 
I think, which has newer RPMs, but they have moved other packages from TC into 
separate ones (JavaMail, JDBC-ext,...), so getting it all together is not easy. 
Plus they have their own dependencies, which I couldn't provide on Mandrake.

Nixie.

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RE: Auto start scripts

2003-12-03 Thread Robin Rigby
Thanks.  I tried to to find the 4.1.24 RPM under

http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-tomcat-4.0/release/

but this redirects me to

http://jakarta.apache.org/site/binindex.cgi

which offers 4.1.29 and no RPM.

Where should I really be looking?

Robin


-Original Message-
From: Nikola Milutinovic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 03 December 2003 13:01
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Auto start scripts


Robin Rigby wrote:
 Have very limited experience of Linux or Tomcat.  Not even really sure
 if this is a Tomcat issue or a Linux issue.
 
 Main question:  How do I run a Tomcat4 script from /etc/rc.d/init.d so
 that Tomcat starts automatically?
 
 Tomcat works fine when I run startup.sh as root.  However, common
sense
 and many passing references on the mailing list suggest that root is
not
 the best choice.  
 
 - What user do people normally use?
 - Should I create a user for the purpose?
 - What attributes and permissions should it have?
 - Is this related to the tomcat tomcat element in the default
 tomcat-users.xml?

I'd sugest:

- download TC-4.1.24 RPMs and install them
- study it, see how it arranges files, permissions, etc...
- configure your own TC 4.1.29 accordingly
- or just (carefully) paste 4.1.29 over existing 4.1.24 RPM install

Setting up TC correctly or, even more, building your own RPMs can be
very time 
consuming. The layout of 4.1.24 RPMs seams OK to me. There is a site,
JPackage, 
I think, which has newer RPMs, but they have moved other packages from
TC into 
separate ones (JavaMail, JDBC-ext,...), so getting it all together is
not easy. 
Plus they have their own dependencies, which I couldn't provide on
Mandrake.

Nixie.


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RE: Auto start scripts

2003-12-03 Thread Shapira, Yoav

Howdy,
RPMs are not packaged on the jakarta site for tomcat.  They're done by
external parties on their sites.  Google ;)

Yoav Shapira
Millennium ChemInformatics


-Original Message-
From: Robin Rigby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:16 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Auto start scripts

Thanks.  I tried to to find the 4.1.24 RPM under

http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-tomcat-4.0/release/

but this redirects me to

http://jakarta.apache.org/site/binindex.cgi

which offers 4.1.29 and no RPM.

Where should I really be looking?

Robin


-Original Message-
From: Nikola Milutinovic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 03 December 2003 13:01
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Auto start scripts


Robin Rigby wrote:
 Have very limited experience of Linux or Tomcat.  Not even really
sure
 if this is a Tomcat issue or a Linux issue.

 Main question:  How do I run a Tomcat4 script from /etc/rc.d/init.d
so
 that Tomcat starts automatically?

 Tomcat works fine when I run startup.sh as root.  However, common
sense
 and many passing references on the mailing list suggest that root is
not
 the best choice.

 - What user do people normally use?
 - Should I create a user for the purpose?
 - What attributes and permissions should it have?
 - Is this related to the tomcat tomcat element in the default
 tomcat-users.xml?

I'd sugest:

- download TC-4.1.24 RPMs and install them
- study it, see how it arranges files, permissions, etc...
- configure your own TC 4.1.29 accordingly
- or just (carefully) paste 4.1.29 over existing 4.1.24 RPM install

Setting up TC correctly or, even more, building your own RPMs can be
very time
consuming. The layout of 4.1.24 RPMs seams OK to me. There is a site,
JPackage,
I think, which has newer RPMs, but they have moved other packages from
TC into
separate ones (JavaMail, JDBC-ext,...), so getting it all together is
not easy.
Plus they have their own dependencies, which I couldn't provide on
Mandrake.

Nixie.


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Re: Auto start scripts

2003-12-03 Thread Tomas Wredendal
Robin Rigby wrote:
Thanks.  I tried to to find the 4.1.24 RPM under

http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-tomcat-4.0/release/

but this redirects me to

http://jakarta.apache.org/site/binindex.cgi

which offers 4.1.29 and no RPM.

Where should I really be looking?

Robin




Try this...

http://archive.apache.org/dist/jakarta/tomcat-4/archive/v4.1.24/rpms/

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RE: Auto start scripts

2003-12-03 Thread Robin Rigby
Got it.  Thank you.  :-)

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From: Tomas Wredendal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 03 December 2003 14:40
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Auto start scripts


Robin Rigby wrote:
 Thanks.  I tried to to find the 4.1.24 RPM under
 
 http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-tomcat-4.0/release/
 
 but this redirects me to
 
 http://jakarta.apache.org/site/binindex.cgi
 
 which offers 4.1.29 and no RPM.
 
 Where should I really be looking?
 
 Robin
 
 


Try this...

http://archive.apache.org/dist/jakarta/tomcat-4/archive/v4.1.24/rpms/

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Re: Auto start scripts

2003-12-03 Thread Adam Hardy
Robin Rigby wrote:

Thanks.  I tried to to find the 4.1.24 RPM under

http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-tomcat-4.0/release/

but this redirects me to

http://jakarta.apache.org/site/binindex.cgi

which offers 4.1.29 and no RPM.

Where should I really be looking?
Robin,
I don't think you really need to have tomcat installed by rpm just to 
get the daemon working. From what I have managed to work out by a quick 
look today, if you want to run tomcat as a non-root user, and you want 
tomcat 4, you have to do some extra steps because it won't bind to port 
80 unless it's running as root.

Check out the thread mentioned in the tomcat website: 
http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/faq/security.html#root

Adam

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