RE: Upgrading tomcat 5 on Windows
Hi, Please, never ever install any product on top of another. Install tomcat 5.0.25 to a clean directory, configure it as you need. You can try copying over configuration files if you want, but don't install on top, you risk library mismatch nightmares. Yoav Shapira Millennium Research Informatics >-Original Message- >From: Michiel Toneman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 8:22 AM >To: Tomcat Users List >Subject: Re: Upgrading tomcat 5 on Windows > >Hi Tim, > >Without giving any specific advice: > >Rule 1 of system administration: Always back up configuration files. > >Michiel > >Tim Penhey wrote: > >>Hi All, >> >>I have Tomcat 5.0.18 running on one machine with a number of configured >webapps. >>If I install the 5.0.25 over the top will all the configuration files stay >or should I >>back them up? >> >>Tim >> >> >-- >Michiel Toneman Software Engineer Bibit Global Payment Services >Regulierenring 10 3981 LB Bunnik [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Tel. +31-30-6595168 Fax +31-30-6564464 http://www.bibit.com/ > > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business communication, and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary and/or privileged. This e-mail is intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed, and may not be saved, copied, printed, disclosed or used by anyone else. If you are not the(an) intended recipient, please immediately delete this e-mail from your computer system and notify the sender. Thank you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Vedr.: Re: Upgrading tomcat 5 on Windows
Upon uninstalling Tomcat you are prompted whether you want remove any work
done. Say no to this and you should be able to install in the same
directory keeping your webapps. Not sure about the server.xml,
jk2.properties and workers2.properties though (cant remember).
Anyway I would like to add
Rule 2 of system administration: Always, always back up configuration
files
Btw think theres a 3rd rule as well...
/Thomas
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Vedr.: Re: Upgrading tomcat 5 on Windows
Hi Tim,
Without giving any specific advice:
Rule 1 of system administration: Always back up configuration files.
Michiel
Tim Penhey wrote:
>Hi All,
>
>I have Tomcat 5.0.18 running on one machine with a number of configured
webapps.
>If I install the 5.0.25 over the top will all the configuration files
stay or should I
>back them up?
>
>Tim
>
>
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Re: Upgrading tomcat 5 on Windows
Hi Tim, Without giving any specific advice: Rule 1 of system administration: Always back up configuration files. Michiel Tim Penhey wrote: Hi All, I have Tomcat 5.0.18 running on one machine with a number of configured webapps. If I install the 5.0.25 over the top will all the configuration files stay or should I back them up? Tim -- Michiel Toneman Software Engineer Bibit Global Payment Services Regulierenring 10 3981 LB Bunnik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel. +31-30-6595168 Fax +31-30-6564464 http://www.bibit.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrading Tomcat 5
Tim, For config files what about having Tomcat use variable constructions like we see in Ant scripts: $catalina.home, rather than fixed paths. Then Tomcat could write out server.xml with constructions like configFile="$catalina.home/conf/Catalina/www.vhost.com/ROOT.xml". This would make upgrading easier. Gerry Reno __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrading Tomcat 5
I haven't played (much) with the new deployer functionality yet. So I am unfamiliar with the minor details (and issues) of the path based dependencies. Running a script on config files is not a big deal for an upgrade. Most commercial software probably does that with (or without) our acknowledgement. If the script were consistent it could always be packaged with tomcat to aid in upgrades. The way apps are deployed (configured) is new and will have gotchas like this. But the code is open for anyone to say "I don't like that" and propose their change. (Or fork if you change isn't made) -Tim Gerry Reno wrote: Tim, Is this definitive? I was hoping this would not be the case. I think that requiring users to run content replacement scripts against their config files to accomplish an upgrade will definitely end up being problematic. Gerry - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Upgrading Tomcat 5
I prefer a different setup.
We separate the tomcat installation from the site.
With this approach the conf files are placed outside of
the tomcat directory tree. As long as the config files
are compatible, an upgrade is just a matter of setting a
different CATALINA_HOME.
Althoug we didn't use tomcat 5 by now the following
should be appliable:
(An updated version of a post from yesterday)
We install different versions of jdk/tomcat like this:
/usr/local/java/jdk/ibm1.3
/usr/local/java/jdk/sun1.3
/usr/local/java/jdk/sun1.3.1
/usr/local/java/jdk/sun1.4
/usr/local/java/tomcat-4.0.3
/usr/local/java/tomcat-4.1.10
For each site we have something like this:
/www/online/
the base directory for a tomcat instance (In our case typically a
site, as we don't use vhosts withe different webapps)
/www/online//log
directory for the log file
/www/online//conf
web.xml
server.xml
and other files that contain the site/instance specific setup
for tomcat (tailored versions of the files that are provided by
tomcat)
make shure that all combinations of IP and port are unique for
each instance of tomcat.
...
/www/online//work
Directory where tomcat stores the generated files and classes
/www/online//webapps
Directories for the contexts
/www/online//bin
start.sh
Script that calls the tomcat version that we want to use for
this site/instance with the environment for this site/instance:
JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/java/jdk/sun1.3.1
CATALINA_HOME=/usr/local/java/tomcat-4.0.3
CATALINA_BASE=/www/online/
export JAVA_HOME CATALINA_HOME CATALINA_BASE
${CATALINA_HOME}/bin/startup.sh
/www/online//???
Depending on the tomcat version there may be further directories
that are needed on this level
This way we can have different versions of tomcat at the same time,
all sites that use the same tomcat version use the same 'executable'
but different processes and individual configuration. If we want to
use another version of tomcat we just have to change CATALINA_HOME
in start.sh (unless the config files are incompatible between these
versions)
> -Original Message-
> From: Gerry Reno [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 4:42 AM
> To: Tomcat Users List
> Subject: Re: Upgrading Tomcat 5
>
>
> Tim,
> Is this definitive? I was hoping this would not be the case. I
> think that requiring users to run content replacement scripts against
> their config files to accomplish an upgrade will definitely end up
> being problematic.
>
> Gerry
>
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Re: Upgrading Tomcat 5
Tim, Is this definitive? I was hoping this would not be the case. I think that requiring users to run content replacement scripts against their config files to accomplish an upgrade will definitely end up being problematic. Gerry --- Tim Funk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't think it is. But it might be as easy as: > > X=/usr/local/tomcat-5.0.3/conf/Catalina/www.vhost.com > Y=/usr/local/tomcat-5.0.4/conf/Catalina/www.vhost.com > cp -r $X $Y > perl -pi -e "s|$X|$Y|" $Y/*.xml > > > -Tim > > Gerry Reno wrote: > > One problem that I see with copying the conf/Catalina tree and > these > > .xml files is with paths that are declared within the > > .xml files: For example: > > > > in ROOT.xml > > > > ... > > > configFile="/usr/local/tomcat-5.0.3/conf/Catalina/www.vhost.com/ROOT.xml" > > ... > > > > > > Does Tomcat know to adjust these paths to the current > $CATALINA_HOME > > which soon would be /usr/local/tomcat-5.0.4? > > > > Gerry Reno > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrading Tomcat 5
I don't think it is. But it might be as easy as: X=/usr/local/tomcat-5.0.3/conf/Catalina/www.vhost.com Y=/usr/local/tomcat-5.0.4/conf/Catalina/www.vhost.com cp -r $X $Y perl -pi -e "s|$X|$Y|" $Y/*.xml -Tim Gerry Reno wrote: One problem that I see with copying the conf/Catalina tree and these .xml files is with paths that are declared within the .xml files: For example: in ROOT.xml ... configFile="/usr/local/tomcat-5.0.3/conf/Catalina/www.vhost.com/ROOT.xml" ... Does Tomcat know to adjust these paths to the current $CATALINA_HOME which soon would be /usr/local/tomcat-5.0.4? Gerry Reno - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrading Tomcat 5
One problem that I see with copying the conf/Catalina tree and these .xml files is with paths that are declared within the .xml files: For example: in ROOT.xml ... configFile="/usr/local/tomcat-5.0.3/conf/Catalina/www.vhost.com/ROOT.xml" ... Does Tomcat know to adjust these paths to the current $CATALINA_HOME which soon would be /usr/local/tomcat-5.0.4? Gerry Reno --- Gerry Reno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Since Tomcat 5 will be removing vhost contexts from server.xml and > writing them out to conf/Catalina//.xml what will be > the procedure for upgrading Tomcat 5? Right now under Tomcat 4, I > install a new version, change my CATALINA_HOME, move my webapps to > the > new version and move all my vhost entries in server.xml to the new > server.xml. Under Tomcat 5 when upgrading will I also need to copy > the > conf/Catalina tree to the new version? > > thx, > Gerry Reno > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! > http://sbc.yahoo.com > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
