RE: jar versions

2004-03-01 Thread Shapira, Yoav

Howdy,
Please let's not start another flamewar on this topic of eternal debate,
this mailing list is voluminous enough as it is.  There are pros and
cons to each side, and many debates have taken place on this and other
list on this topic.  Suffice it to say it's a choice the developers
make.  For example see
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10243459103r=1w=2.

Yoav Shapira
Millennium ChemInformatics


-Original Message-
From: Charles N. Harvey III [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 11:27 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: jar versions

I have one little thing that sometimes drives me crazy about most
products
that I download off of the internet - jar versions.  There aren't any.
Its
not just Tomcat, its Sun.  How come the j2ee.jar never has a version?
Does
that bother anyone else?

This never really bothered me that much before, because I was still a
beginner
and which version I was using never really came into play.  But now
that I
try to keep up on the latest versions of freely available classes the
version
numbers matter.  And, with the advent of Maven, it becomes slightly
annoying
to change my project.xml file because the jar does not have a version,
or
to
rename my jars and add in a number.

Recently I had issues with my classloader because there were jars in
there
that I could not override.  What made it really difficult was finding
out
which version was used.  But the /tomcat/common/lib/ directory does the
same
thing.  Not one of the jars has a version number.  Can this be changed?
Can
a 1.3 or 0.4 be added to the end of each of the jars so that everyone
can
know which version their system is loading?

Just my $0.02.  I am trying to get everyone at my company to make sure
everything
is numbered, so I thought I'd throw my opinion around at everyone else.
:)

Big fan of the product, thanks for all the years of great work.


Charlie


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Re: jar versions

2004-03-01 Thread Charles N. Harvey III
Didn't realize it was such a heated subject.  Thanks for the reference,
it made some good sense.  I'm definately not the type to want to start
an argument, so I can live with it as is.
Thanks again.

Charlie



Shapira, Yoav wrote:

Howdy,
Please let's not start another flamewar on this topic of eternal debate,
this mailing list is voluminous enough as it is.  There are pros and
cons to each side, and many debates have taken place on this and other
list on this topic.  Suffice it to say it's a choice the developers
make.  For example see
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10243459103r=1w=2.
Yoav Shapira
Millennium ChemInformatics
 

-Original Message-
From: Charles N. Harvey III [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 11:27 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: jar versions
I have one little thing that sometimes drives me crazy about most
   

products
 

that I download off of the internet - jar versions.  There aren't any.
   

Its
 

not just Tomcat, its Sun.  How come the j2ee.jar never has a version?
   

Does
 

that bother anyone else?

This never really bothered me that much before, because I was still a
beginner
and which version I was using never really came into play.  But now
   

that I
 

try to keep up on the latest versions of freely available classes the
version
numbers matter.  And, with the advent of Maven, it becomes slightly
annoying
to change my project.xml file because the jar does not have a version,
   

or
 

to
rename my jars and add in a number.
Recently I had issues with my classloader because there were jars in
   

there
 

that I could not override.  What made it really difficult was finding
   

out
 

which version was used.  But the /tomcat/common/lib/ directory does the
same
thing.  Not one of the jars has a version number.  Can this be changed?
Can
a 1.3 or 0.4 be added to the end of each of the jars so that everyone
   

can
 

know which version their system is loading?

Just my $0.02.  I am trying to get everyone at my company to make sure
everything
is numbered, so I thought I'd throw my opinion around at everyone else.
   

:)
 

Big fan of the product, thanks for all the years of great work.

Charlie

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Re: jar versions

2004-03-01 Thread Tarik El Berrak
hi
excuse me, can you tell me can i unsubscribe from this mailig list
thanks a lot
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Subject: Re: jar versions


 Didn't realize it was such a heated subject.  Thanks for the reference,
 it made some good sense.  I'm definately not the type to want to start
 an argument, so I can live with it as is.

 Thanks again.


 Charlie



 Shapira, Yoav wrote:

 Howdy,
 Please let's not start another flamewar on this topic of eternal debate,
 this mailing list is voluminous enough as it is.  There are pros and
 cons to each side, and many debates have taken place on this and other
 list on this topic.  Suffice it to say it's a choice the developers
 make.  For example see
 http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10243459103r=1w=2.
 
 Yoav Shapira
 Millennium ChemInformatics
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Charles N. Harvey III [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 11:27 AM
 To: Tomcat Users List
 Subject: jar versions
 
 I have one little thing that sometimes drives me crazy about most
 
 
 products
 
 
 that I download off of the internet - jar versions.  There aren't any.
 
 
 Its
 
 
 not just Tomcat, its Sun.  How come the j2ee.jar never has a version?
 
 
 Does
 
 
 that bother anyone else?
 
 This never really bothered me that much before, because I was still a
 beginner
 and which version I was using never really came into play.  But now
 
 
 that I
 
 
 try to keep up on the latest versions of freely available classes the
 version
 numbers matter.  And, with the advent of Maven, it becomes slightly
 annoying
 to change my project.xml file because the jar does not have a version,
 
 
 or
 
 
 to
 rename my jars and add in a number.
 
 Recently I had issues with my classloader because there were jars in
 
 
 there
 
 
 that I could not override.  What made it really difficult was finding
 
 
 out
 
 
 which version was used.  But the /tomcat/common/lib/ directory does the
 same
 thing.  Not one of the jars has a version number.  Can this be changed?
 Can
 a 1.3 or 0.4 be added to the end of each of the jars so that everyone
 
 
 can
 
 
 know which version their system is loading?
 
 Just my $0.02.  I am trying to get everyone at my company to make sure
 everything
 is numbered, so I thought I'd throw my opinion around at everyone else.
 
 
 :)
 
 
 Big fan of the product, thanks for all the years of great work.
 
 
 Charlie
 
 
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