RE: unsubscribe problems - 2 comments

2001-04-26 Thread Joel Regen
Title: RE: unsubscribe problems - 2 comments




  
  First, it's very simple if you follow the instructions in the 
  welcome email. I just did it for numerous lists the morning, both 
  unsubscribing an alternate alias and re-subscribing a new. 
  Unfortunately, lots of people don't keep the welcome email, and the info isn't 
  on the site as far as I can tell (or at least it's not clearly marked). 
  
  Surely, someone managing the website could add the following 
  to the top of the lists page, put it in red, draw a box around it, and title 
  it "Subscribe/Unsubscribe":
  -- 
  There are two ways you can UNSUBSCRIBE from the list: 
  
  (1) Send a message to (where ??? is the name of the 
  list):  
  ???[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Jay,
  I 
  think most of us are doing this and it is NOT working.
  
  Joel


RE: unsubscribe problems

2001-04-25 Thread Gary Lawson

Use

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

So for me it would be
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

This works, I just tried it.

Gary

-Original Message-
From: Maura TAYLOR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 25 April 2001 11:41
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: unsubscribe problems


Seems like many of us are having problems unsubscribing using the
unsubscribe email address.  i've also tried sending mail to the list owner,
but heard nothing in response.

I've seen more than a handful who are irritated at not being able to get off
this damn list and stop receiving boatloads of unwanted mail.  Anyone got a
solution other than sending undeliverable emails to the unsubscribe address?


- m




Re: unsubscribe problems

2001-04-25 Thread Lyle H. Ward

It seems like many people are sending to 

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Try sending to

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

substituting your modified email address 

e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

No I haven't tried it yet because I'm still learning from this list. This
method  was described in the original welcome message.

At 12:41 PM 4/25/2001 +0200, you wrote:
Seems like many of us are having problems unsubscribing using the
unsubscribe email address.  i've also tried sending mail to the list owner,
but heard nothing in response. 

I've seen more than a handful who are irritated at not being able to get off
this damn list and stop receiving boatloads of unwanted mail.  Anyone got a
solution other than sending undeliverable emails to the unsubscribe address?


- m






RE: unsubscribe problems

2001-04-25 Thread Randy Layman


An additional problem is people not knowing what address they are
subscribed as - it must be exact!  When doing the translation mentioned in
the welcome message, people need to work with the address referenced in the
Delivered-To header field, not what they think their email address is!

Randy

 -Original Message-
 From: Lyle H. Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 11:00 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: unsubscribe problems
 
 
 It seems like many people are sending to 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Try sending to
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 substituting your modified email address 
 
 e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 No I haven't tried it yet because I'm still learning from 
 this list. This
 method  was described in the original welcome message.
 
 At 12:41 PM 4/25/2001 +0200, you wrote:
 Seems like many of us are having problems unsubscribing using the
 unsubscribe email address.  i've also tried sending mail to 
 the list owner,
 but heard nothing in response. 
 
 I've seen more than a handful who are irritated at not being 
 able to get off
 this damn list and stop receiving boatloads of unwanted 
 mail.  Anyone got a
 solution other than sending undeliverable emails to the 
 unsubscribe address?
 
 
 - m
 
 
 



RE: unsubscribe problems - 2 comments

2001-04-25 Thread Burgess, Jay
Title: RE: unsubscribe problems - 2 comments





First, it's very simple if you follow the instructions in the welcome email. I just did it for numerous lists the morning, both unsubscribing an alternate alias and re-subscribing a new. Unfortunately, lots of people don't keep the welcome email, and the info isn't on the site as far as I can tell (or at least it's not clearly marked). 

Surely, someone managing the website could add the following to the top of the lists page, put it in red, draw a box around it, and title it Subscribe/Unsubscribe:

--
There are two ways you can SUBSCRIBE to the list:


(1)Send a message to (where ??? is the name of the list):
 ???[EMAIL PROTECTED]


(2) To start a subscription for an alternate address (e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED]), just add a hyphen and your address (with '=' instead of '@') after the command word e.g.

 ???[EMAIL PROTECTED]


--
There are two ways you can UNSUBSCRIBE from the list:


(1) Send a message to (where ??? is the name of the list):
 ???[EMAIL PROTECTED]


(2) To stop a subscription for an alternate address, (e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED]), just add a hyphen and your address (with '=' instead of '@') after the command word e.g.

 ???[EMAIL PROTECTED]


--


Jay


-Original Message-
From: Lyle H. Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 10:00 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: unsubscribe problems



It seems like many people are sending to 


[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Try sending to


[EMAIL PROTECTED]


substituting your modified email address 


e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED]


No I haven't tried it yet because I'm still learning from this list. This
method was described in the original welcome message.


At 12:41 PM 4/25/2001 +0200, you wrote:
Seems like many of us are having problems unsubscribing using the
unsubscribe email address. i've also tried sending mail to the list owner,
but heard nothing in response. 

I've seen more than a handful who are irritated at not being able to get off
this damn list and stop receiving boatloads of unwanted mail. Anyone got a
solution other than sending undeliverable emails to the unsubscribe address?


- m







RE: unsubscribe problems - 2 comments

2001-04-25 Thread Mike Braden

I guess no one pays attention to the mail list page with the links to
unsubscribe.

I do agree that it would be nice to have the instructions on that page,
though.

Maybe along with the instructions on not sending HTML format mail.  Of
course,
of no-one actually reads them...  ;-)

Mike.
--
Mike Braden
CNE, MCP+I, MCSE, CCNA, Sun Comp 2k Enterprise
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-
From: Burgess, Jay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 11:11 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: unsubscribe problems - 2 comments


First, it's very simple if you follow the instructions in the welcome email.
I just did it for numerous lists the morning, both unsubscribing an
alternate alias and re-subscribing a new.  Unfortunately, lots of people
don't keep the welcome email, and the info isn't on the site as far as I can
tell (or at least it's not clearly marked).
Surely, someone managing the website could add the following to the top of
the lists page, put it in red, draw a box around it, and title it
Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
--
There are two ways you can SUBSCRIBE to the list:
(1)Send a message to (where ??? is the name of the list):
   ???[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(2) To start a subscription for an alternate address (e.g.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]), just add a hyphen and your address (with '=' instead of
'@') after the command word e.g.
   ???[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
There are two ways you can UNSUBSCRIBE from the list:
(1) Send a message to (where ??? is the name of the list):
   ???[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(2) To stop a subscription for an alternate address, (e.g.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]), just add a hyphen and your address (with '=' instead of
'@') after the command word e.g.
   ???[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
Jay
-Original Message-
From: Lyle H. Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 10:00 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: unsubscribe problems


It seems like many people are sending to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Try sending to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
substituting your modified email address
e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
No I haven't tried it yet because I'm still learning from this list. This
method  was described in the original welcome message.
At 12:41 PM 4/25/2001 +0200, you wrote:
Seems like many of us are having problems unsubscribing using the
unsubscribe email address.  i've also tried sending mail to the list owner,
but heard nothing in response.

I've seen more than a handful who are irritated at not being able to get
off
this damn list and stop receiving boatloads of unwanted mail.  Anyone got a
solution other than sending undeliverable emails to the unsubscribe
address?


- m






RE: unsubscribe problems - 2 comments

2001-04-25 Thread Joel Regen

of course you didn't bother to paste in the URL for that page.

-Original Message-
From: Mike Braden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 11:27 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: unsubscribe problems - 2 comments


I guess no one pays attention to the mail list page with the links to
unsubscribe.

I do agree that it would be nice to have the instructions on that page,
though.

Maybe along with the instructions on not sending HTML format mail.  Of
course,
of no-one actually reads them...  ;-)

Mike.
--
Mike Braden
CNE, MCP+I, MCSE, CCNA, Sun Comp 2k Enterprise
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-
From: Burgess, Jay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 11:11 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: unsubscribe problems - 2 comments


First, it's very simple if you follow the instructions in the welcome email.
I just did it for numerous lists the morning, both unsubscribing an
alternate alias and re-subscribing a new.  Unfortunately, lots of people
don't keep the welcome email, and the info isn't on the site as far as I can
tell (or at least it's not clearly marked).
Surely, someone managing the website could add the following to the top of
the lists page, put it in red, draw a box around it, and title it
Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
--
There are two ways you can SUBSCRIBE to the list:
(1)Send a message to (where ??? is the name of the list):
   ???[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(2) To start a subscription for an alternate address (e.g.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]), just add a hyphen and your address (with '=' instead of
'@') after the command word e.g.
   ???[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
There are two ways you can UNSUBSCRIBE from the list:
(1) Send a message to (where ??? is the name of the list):
   ???[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(2) To stop a subscription for an alternate address, (e.g.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]), just add a hyphen and your address (with '=' instead of
'@') after the command word e.g.
   ???[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
Jay
-Original Message-
From: Lyle H. Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 10:00 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: unsubscribe problems


It seems like many people are sending to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Try sending to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
substituting your modified email address
e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
No I haven't tried it yet because I'm still learning from this list. This
method  was described in the original welcome message.
At 12:41 PM 4/25/2001 +0200, you wrote:
Seems like many of us are having problems unsubscribing using the
unsubscribe email address.  i've also tried sending mail to the list owner,
but heard nothing in response.

I've seen more than a handful who are irritated at not being able to get
off
this damn list and stop receiving boatloads of unwanted mail.  Anyone got a
solution other than sending undeliverable emails to the unsubscribe
address?


- m





RE: unsubscribe problems - 2 comments

2001-04-25 Thread Burgess, Jay
Title: RE: unsubscribe problems - 2 comments





This page [http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html] doesn't say anything about how to unsubscribe an alternate email alias (unless I missing something). It was built with the assumption that:

1 - Your browser is configured to send email
2 - Your browser is configured to send email as the user under which you subscribed. 


Neither were true in my case. 


(And sorry about the HTML email. Believe me I've tried to get it fixed, but it is an issue with our Exchange server, and no one seems to be able to figure out how to turn it off.)

Jay


-Original Message-
From: Joel Regen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 11:33 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: unsubscribe problems - 2 comments



of course you didn't bother to paste in the URL for that page.


-Original Message-
From: Mike Braden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 11:27 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: unsubscribe problems - 2 comments



I guess no one pays attention to the mail list page with the links to
unsubscribe.


I do agree that it would be nice to have the instructions on that page,
though.


Maybe along with the instructions on not sending HTML format mail. Of
course,
of no-one actually reads them... ;-)


Mike.
--
Mike Braden
CNE, MCP+I, MCSE, CCNA, Sun Comp 2k Enterprise
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-
From: Burgess, Jay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 11:11 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: unsubscribe problems - 2 comments



First, it's very simple if you follow the instructions in the welcome email.
I just did it for numerous lists the morning, both unsubscribing an
alternate alias and re-subscribing a new. Unfortunately, lots of people
don't keep the welcome email, and the info isn't on the site as far as I can
tell (or at least it's not clearly marked).
Surely, someone managing the website could add the following to the top of
the lists page, put it in red, draw a box around it, and title it
Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
--
There are two ways you can SUBSCRIBE to the list:
(1)Send a message to (where ??? is the name of the list):
 ???[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(2) To start a subscription for an alternate address (e.g.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]), just add a hyphen and your address (with '=' instead of
'@') after the command word e.g.
 ???[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
There are two ways you can UNSUBSCRIBE from the list:
(1) Send a message to (where ??? is the name of the list):
 ???[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(2) To stop a subscription for an alternate address, (e.g.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]), just add a hyphen and your address (with '=' instead of
'@') after the command word e.g.
 ???[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
Jay
-Original Message-
From: Lyle H. Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 10:00 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: unsubscribe problems



It seems like many people are sending to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Try sending to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
substituting your modified email address
e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
No I haven't tried it yet because I'm still learning from this list. This
method was described in the original welcome message.
At 12:41 PM 4/25/2001 +0200, you wrote:
Seems like many of us are having problems unsubscribing using the
unsubscribe email address. i've also tried sending mail to the list owner,
but heard nothing in response.

I've seen more than a handful who are irritated at not being able to get
off
this damn list and stop receiving boatloads of unwanted mail. Anyone got a
solution other than sending undeliverable emails to the unsubscribe
address?


- m