RE: Tomcat 4.1.x Vs 5.0.x

2004-05-13 Thread dawg fan
From personal experience in testing on Suse 8.2 and tomcat 4.1.30 using a load of 
1000 concurrent connections pulling continuous pages from the webserver, the 
following was found:
- using ibm jdk and blackdown jdk (basically same thing) gave the fastest serve times 
for the first hour of testing.  unfortunately the serve times slowed drastically after 
1 hour under load.
- sun jdk server time results remained the same under the load for the length of the 
test (5 hours)


We concluded the sun jdk was best for our environment.  However it can be concluded 
that the ibm version is good if you do not need to handle that much load.


-joe

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From: Shapira, Yoav [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 15:31:37 -0400
To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Tomcat 4.1.x Vs 5.0.x

 
 Hi,
 
 Sun 1.4.2
 IBM 1.4.1
 Bea 1.4.2 (JRockit)
 
 Which one would be better?
 I am running RH Enterprise Linux 3 on a Dell PowerEdge 1655MC: dual
 1.4Ghz PIII and 2GB of RAM.
 
 The reason people cite for shifting away from the Sun JVM are
 performance-oriented.  The problems cited with others often revolve
 around bad stability.  So if you want stability (which I think is the
 case for a service host), start out using the Sun JDK.
 
 BTW, I'm not convinced on the performance front either, so definitely
 IMHO start with the Sun JDK.
 
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RE: Tomcat 4.1.x Vs 5.0.x

2004-05-12 Thread Shapira, Yoav

Hi,

Is it better to use Tomcat 4.1.x or 5.0.x for such scenario?
Which version is faster and stabler?

The tomcat 5.0.x versions are faster and at least as stable.

Will applications designed for Tomcat 4 work fine with version 5?

Applications designed for the Servlet Specification will work fine with
tomcat 4 and tomcat 5.  Applications whose designers were bad enough to
include tomcat 4 - specific code will not work with tomcat 5 obviously.

What is the recommended JVM for production use on Linux? Sun or IBM?
Which version?

Again, the latest stable version is what you want.  We have people using
Sun, IBM, Blackdown, and JRockit on this list.

To answer one of your other questions: the typical hardware
requirements for tomcat would be any old processor and 64MB of RAM.
This varies greatly depending on the user application's memory and CPU
needs.

Yoav Shapira



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Re: Tomcat 4.1.x Vs 5.0.x

2004-05-12 Thread wsedio
On 12-05-2004 20:14, Shapira, Yoav wrote:

The tomcat 5.0.x versions are faster and at least as stable.
Ok, I am going to install Tomcat 5.0.24.

Again, the latest stable version is what you want.  We have people using
Sun, IBM, Blackdown, and JRockit on this list.
I can choose between the following JVMs:
Sun 1.4.2
IBM 1.4.1
Bea 1.4.2 (JRockit)
Which one would be better?
I am running RH Enterprise Linux 3 on a Dell PowerEdge 1655MC: dual 
1.4Ghz PIII and 2GB of RAM.

Thanks.

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RE: Tomcat 4.1.x Vs 5.0.x

2004-05-12 Thread Shapira, Yoav

Hi,

Sun 1.4.2
IBM 1.4.1
Bea 1.4.2 (JRockit)

Which one would be better?
I am running RH Enterprise Linux 3 on a Dell PowerEdge 1655MC: dual
1.4Ghz PIII and 2GB of RAM.

The reason people cite for shifting away from the Sun JVM are
performance-oriented.  The problems cited with others often revolve
around bad stability.  So if you want stability (which I think is the
case for a service host), start out using the Sun JDK.

BTW, I'm not convinced on the performance front either, so definitely
IMHO start with the Sun JDK.

Yoav




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Re: Tomcat 4.1.x Vs 5.0.x

2004-05-12 Thread Wade Chandler
Shapira, Yoav wrote:

Hi,


Sun 1.4.2
IBM 1.4.1
Bea 1.4.2 (JRockit)
Which one would be better?
I am running RH Enterprise Linux 3 on a Dell PowerEdge 1655MC: dual
1.4Ghz PIII and 2GB of RAM.


The reason people cite for shifting away from the Sun JVM are
performance-oriented.  The problems cited with others often revolve
around bad stability.  So if you want stability (which I think is the
case for a service host), start out using the Sun JDK.
BTW, I'm not convinced on the performance front either, so definitely
IMHO start with the Sun JDK.
Yoav



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I agree with Yoav.  I find Sun to be the better of all the JVMs I have 
tried in both cases: performance and stability.  If someone can show me 
something working and prove their points, then I'll have reason to 
believe, but from my own experiences Sun's VM is usually less buggy and 
runs very well and the others including IBM and Blackdown don't really 
compare (at least on Intel and Linux anyways).

Wade



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Re: Tomcat 4.1.x Vs 5.0.x

2004-04-20 Thread wsedio
On 4/17/04 4:36 PM, wsedio wrote:

Hi,
I've a web hosting server running Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3 ES and I am 
planning to install Tomcat on it.

I would like to give dedicated Tomcat instances to some clients and to 
keep a shared instance for smaller web sites.

Is it better to use Tomcat 4.1.x or 5.0.x for such scenario?
Which version is faster and stabler?
Will applications designed for Tomcat 4 work fine with version 5?

What is the recommended JVM for production use on Linux? Sun or IBM? 
Which version?
Anyone?

Thanks.

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