Re: [Toolserver-l] What will happen with the Toolserver domain?
(anonymous) wrote: > I would vote strongly to keep the wiki and also JIRA somewhere > accessible. Both contain a serious amount of history and documentation. > Can that be done? > [...] These are two very different problems. AFAICS the wiki can be moved rather easily; your mail trig- gered me to finally create the bug from my notes written long ago :-) (cf. https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60220). The Toolserver admins need to decouple the wiki from the Toolserver SSO and dump users and data, the WMF admins need to set up a (= just another) wiki without CentralAuth (wmgUseCentralAuth = false IIRC), load users and data, reset the/mail out new users' passwords and then wiki.toolserver.org needs to be set as a CNAME for text-lb. JIRA however is much more complicated. You know from your own experience (https://jira.toolserver.org/browse/TS-748 has now been unresolved for over three years) that few of the Toolserver admins have time and knowledge with regard to JIRA, while in the WMF camp they have probably zero. So compared with MediaWiki where (security) updates will be regularly deployed with the rest of the cluster, someone would have to keep a dedicated eye on a totally foreign sys- tem. And we only have a free licence from Atlassian which could at some point be discontinued. On the other hand the benefits are very small as Merlijn wrote the fantastic JIRA/ Bugzilla importer which handles almost all cases. Tim ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
Re: [Toolserver-l] What will happen with the Toolserver domain?
It was (or attempted) I believe at one stage, which is why you might of had that thought (see, you're not crazy!) On 19 January 2014 11:54, Marc A. Pelletier wrote: > On 01/18/2014 08:43 PM, Marc A. Pelletier wrote: > > or Confluence on our infrastructure > > For some reason, I was convinced that Confluence was used as wiki > software on Toolserver. Given that this is in fact Mediawiki, keeping a > historical copy for historical reasons is relatively simple and quite okay. > > -- Marc > > > > ___ > Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l > Posting guidelines for this list: > https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette > ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
Re: [Toolserver-l] What will happen with the Toolserver domain?
On 01/18/2014 08:43 PM, Marc A. Pelletier wrote: > or Confluence on our infrastructure For some reason, I was convinced that Confluence was used as wiki software on Toolserver. Given that this is in fact Mediawiki, keeping a historical copy for historical reasons is relatively simple and quite okay. -- Marc ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
Re: [Toolserver-l] What will happen with the Toolserver domain?
On 01/18/2014 03:29 PM, Dr. Trigon wrote: > I would vote strongly to keep the wiki and also JIRA somewhere > accessible. Both contain a serious amount of history and documentation. There is an issue about both living on non-free platforms we have to address before that's possible (I very much doubt that we can reasonably maintain either Jira or Confluence on our infrastructure). I don't know how /useful/ they would be, but static copies might be appropriate; or we might need to find some other method by which to keep those for history. -- Marc ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
Re: [Toolserver-l] Pleasse cleanup user-store
Hello, On Sat, 18 Jan 2014, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: I reduced /mnt/user-store/git/ by about 4 GB with git gc. I doubt it helps much but there's nothing else I can do. I just wanted people to delete what they dont need anymore anyway. Thanks for your effort. Kind regards Marlen/nosy PS: the .usage file is still not complete but will be soon ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
Re: [Toolserver-l] What will happen with the Toolserver domain?
Hey, this would be very easy from the technical side. The host that does this is not part of the cluster but sits in the US. Still this host needs some sort of maintenance as long as its online so the perspective would probably be to reimport the data somewhere. Adding Coren so he can keep it in mind. Cheers Marlen/nosy On Sat, 18 Jan 2014, Dr. Trigon wrote: Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2014 21:29:27 From: Dr. Trigon Reply-To: Wikimedia Toolserver To: toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Toolserver-l] What will happen with the Toolserver domain? -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I would vote strongly to keep the wiki and also JIRA somewhere accessible. Both contain a serious amount of history and documentation. Can that be done? Greetings DrTrigon On 25.12.2013 21:05, Emilio J. RodrÃguez-Posada wrote: Hi all; I'm not sure if this has been discussed anywhere but, what will happen with the Toolserver domain? I'm not sure if ALL servers are going to be removed or a basic Apache is going to run in the domain the next years. Perhaps we can mantain a basic site, with the wiki, and a little museum? Regards, emijrp ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlLa5CYACgkQAXWvBxzBrDConACeKJlPvLQNPDMcYlC/NWyXzFVb HFQAmwd2pAy8lJiR4mX+Zh/PH3FIuVuk =OmfH -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
Re: [Toolserver-l] SGE and sql-s1-rr
I wrote: > [...] > I see that /sge/scripts/sensor/sqlslots2.pl was changed on > October 17th. Could the calculation of the DB slots be > wrong, or would changes in that file not affect the resource > sql-s1-rr? I don't know how, but this appears to be working now, so I'll add the resource requirements to my qsub calls again. Tim ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
Re: [Toolserver-l] What will happen with the Toolserver domain?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I would vote strongly to keep the wiki and also JIRA somewhere accessible. Both contain a serious amount of history and documentation. Can that be done? Greetings DrTrigon On 25.12.2013 21:05, Emilio J. RodrÃguez-Posada wrote: > Hi all; > > I'm not sure if this has been discussed anywhere but, what will > happen with the Toolserver domain? > > I'm not sure if ALL servers are going to be removed or a basic > Apache is going to run in the domain the next years. > > Perhaps we can mantain a basic site, with the wiki, and a little > museum? > > Regards, emijrp > > > ___ Toolserver-l > mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting > guidelines for this list: > https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlLa5CYACgkQAXWvBxzBrDConACeKJlPvLQNPDMcYlC/NWyXzFVb HFQAmwd2pAy8lJiR4mX+Zh/PH3FIuVuk =OmfH -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
Re: [Toolserver-l] Pleasse cleanup user-store
I reduced /mnt/user-store/git/ by about 4 GB with git gc. I doubt it helps much but there's nothing else I can do. Nemo ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette