(anonymous) wrote:

> I would vote strongly to keep the wiki and also JIRA somewhere
> accessible. Both contain a serious amount of history and documentation.

> Can that be done?

> [...]

These are two very different problems.

AFAICS the wiki can be moved rather easily; your mail trig-
gered me to finally create the bug from my notes written
long ago :-) (cf. https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/60220).
The Toolserver admins need to decouple the wiki from the
Toolserver SSO and dump users and data, the WMF admins need
to set up a (= just another) wiki without CentralAuth
(wmgUseCentralAuth = false IIRC), load users and data, reset
the/mail out new users' passwords and then
wiki.toolserver.org needs to be set as a CNAME for text-lb.

JIRA however is much more complicated.  You know from your
own experience (https://jira.toolserver.org/browse/TS-748
has now been unresolved for over three years) that few of
the Toolserver admins have time and knowledge with regard to
JIRA, while in the WMF camp they have probably zero.  So
compared with MediaWiki where (security) updates will be
regularly deployed with the rest of the cluster, someone
would have to keep a dedicated eye on a totally foreign sys-
tem.  And we only have a free licence from Atlassian which
could at some point be discontinued.  On the other hand the
benefits are very small as Merlijn wrote the fantastic JIRA/
Bugzilla importer which handles almost all cases.

Tim


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