Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 3.0TB USB drive on Touch?

2010-04-07 Thread awy

I would go for ext3 if you are comfortable with that.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Release date touch 10th of april

2010-04-07 Thread bonze

agentsmith;530955 Wrote: 
 The silence from Slim is deafening. 
 
 I for one has given up the Touch and ordered back a Transporter which I
 have sold previously.

Slim?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Release date touch 10th of april

2010-04-07 Thread maggior

agentsmith;530955 Wrote: 
 The silence from Slim is deafening. 
 

I think they are all nursing their hangovers from the big party last
night to celebrate the release of 7.5.  ;-)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Release date touch 10th of april

2010-04-07 Thread tomasito

3 days more to go! exciting
Like an Ipad release...is there anybody who is going to campout at the
logitech building?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Release date touch 10th of april

2010-04-07 Thread mr-b

Logitech Europe support just said that the Touch was released yesterday
lunchtime - express delivery orders get priority shipment with expected
delivery by the end of this week. Pennypinching misers get theirs next
week. ;)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Release date touch 10th of april

2010-04-07 Thread maggior

It's official:

http://forums.slimdevices.com/announcement.php?f=34

Congrats Logitech.  Hopefully it'll turn out to have been worth the
wait!!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Release date touch 10th of april

2010-04-07 Thread maggior

bpa;531146 Wrote: 
 See MickeyG post
 http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=530760postcount=6

Is this post in some secret forum?  When I click your link, I'm told I
don't have permission.


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[SlimDevices: Touch] Congrats on the Touch and 7.5!

2010-04-07 Thread gfuchs

A big congratulation to everyone involved in the Touch and 7.5
development.
I know it's an understatement that the past year has been challenging
for all.

Looking forward to getting my Touch.
I've been happy as a pig in slop with my two Radios.

Good job!

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Release date touch 10th of april

2010-04-07 Thread iPhone

maggior;531148 Wrote: 
 Is this post in some secret forum?  When I click your link, I'm told I
 don't have permission.

I hope this is OK with Mickey and Logitech, if not, an admin/moderator
please delete this post.

It is from the Touch Beta Forum.

Posting to Mickey G from iPhone about the Touch Release: 

-Great news Mickey! Congratulations to the whole team. I have enjoyed
this Beta Program and was glad to be invited and involved. Any idea
when it will be in retail stores?-

Reply from Mickey:

-No idea. From what we can tell from pre-orders, it's a big hit in
Europe. It will probably be available from those retailers in a few
days.

In the United States, it will be available on the web and not at Best
Buy. US retailers seem to want an iPod dock on anything in their
stores. :-(

Mickey-

So web wise I would say Amazon. US Retailers looks like it might be a
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Release date touch 10th of april

2010-04-07 Thread maggior

SteveEast;531156 Wrote: 
 Try:
 
 http://forums.slimdevices.com/announcement.php?f=2
 
 Steve.

I got that - he doesn't say anything about availability from other
retailers in that posting.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Release date touch 10th of april

2010-04-07 Thread maggior

iPhone;531158 Wrote: 
 I hope this is OK with Mickey and Logitech, if not, an admin/moderator
 please delete this post.
 
 It is from the Touch Beta Forum.
 
 Posting to Mickey G from iPhone about the Touch Release: 
 
 -Great news Mickey! Congratulations to the whole team. I have enjoyed
 this Beta Program and was glad to be invited and involved. Any idea
 when it will be in retail stores?-
 
 Reply from Mickey:
 
 -No idea. From what we can tell from pre-orders, it's a big hit in
 Europe. It will probably be available from those retailers in a few
 days.
 
 In the United States, it will be available on the web and not at Best
 Buy. US retailers seem to want an iPod dock on anything in their
 stores. :-(
 
 Mickey-
 
 So web wise I would say Amazon. US Retailers looks like it might be a
 while before its is seen there if at all.


Thanks iPhone.  I'd rather give Amazon my business anyway - I don't
have much love for Best Buy.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] VU Meter Visualiser and viewing from a distance..

2010-04-07 Thread bklaas

That's a bug I should be able to address pretty easily. Someone
internally had mentioned that there was a layout problem with the
visualizers, but hadn't specified that it was using the remote skin so
I hadn't seen the problem until now. 

I'll open a bug and assign it to myself. Thanks for the input.

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[SlimDevices: Touch] Couple of questions from a soon to be Touch owner

2010-04-07 Thread craiglester

I just ordered a touch from logitech  :) yay.

Anyway.. I have a couple of questions..

(I'll be using the touch as a server btw, for itself and 1 SB3, with
approx 20,000 tracks - about 300 Gb of FLAC and MP3)

1. Does anyone have a recommendation for a small portable HDD that
comes with a psu (as the touch can't provide the required power). Seems
all the 2.5 drives are exclusively bus powered. I have a 3.5 but it's
a little whiney, and I dont like the idea of having to buy a powered
usb hub just for a small HDD.

2. On the limitations wiki it states that FLAC encoded  48Khz and
compressed with Best or -8 won't work. Does this mean if the file is
over 48 Khz AND encoded at -8, or is it either condition? I have a lot
of flac encoded at -8 (16/44.1, do I need to re encode all this to -5?

3. I can't seem to find what apps work on the touch.. Is there enything
like superdatetime? I really like the weather forecast on the clock.

oh and good work getting this out right now.. had a bad day yesterday,
then Saw in stock on the logitech site.. brightened my day
immeasurably :)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Couple of questions from a soon to be Touch owner

2010-04-07 Thread Phil Leigh

craiglester;531197 Wrote: 
 I just ordered a touch from logitech  :) yay.
 
 Anyway.. I have a couple of questions..
 
 (I'll be using the touch as a server btw, for itself and 1 SB3, with
 approx 20,000 tracks - about 300 Gb of FLAC and MP3)
 
 1. Does anyone have a recommendation for a small portable HDD that
 comes with a psu (as the touch can't provide the required power). Seems
 all the 2.5 drives are exclusively bus powered. I have a 3.5 but it's
 a little whiney, and I dont like the idea of having to buy a powered
 usb hub just for a small HDD.
 
 2. On the limitations wiki it states that FLAC encoded  48Khz and
 compressed with Best or -8 won't work. Does this mean if the file is
 over 48 Khz AND encoded at -8, or is it either condition? I have a lot
 of flac encoded at -8 (16/44.1, do I need to re encode all this to -5?
 
 3. I can't seem to find what apps work on the touch.. Is there enything
 like superdatetime? I really like the weather forecast on the clock.
 
 oh and good work getting this out right now.. had a bad day yesterday,
 then Saw in stock on the logitech site.. brightened my day
 immeasurably :)

16/44.1 @-8 works fine. 48 and above should use -5 (it's easy to reflac
any files you might have that fit this category).

There's very little difference in disk space anyway - I switched to -5
2 years ago


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[SlimDevices: Touch] Exactly where can I buy a Touch?

2010-04-07 Thread maggior

I went to Logitech's main website and found the Touch, but it shows out
of stock.  Amazon still shows it as a preorder.  Clicking on buy now
at the top of these forums takes me to a dead link.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Release date touch 10th of april

2010-04-07 Thread Ikabob

What about the pre-orders in the US. Anyone know when they might be
going out? My order still says in process. I would like to see that
change. Anyone?


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[SlimDevices: Touch] Touch released or not?

2010-04-07 Thread mlsstl

Called Logitech Sales (1-800-231-7717) to inquire about the status of my
preorder. 

The status indicator on the website shows my order is in-process -
this is what it has shown for quite some time.

When I reached Ben on the phone, he said the Touch has not been
released and his sales manager says it won't be released until July. 

When I checked the Logitech web sales site earlier today, it showed the
Touch was in-stock. When I looked at it while talking to Ben, it
showed out-of-stock. 

I explained that MickyG, the program manager, just posted a release
announcement for the Touch on the Slimdevices forum. Ben didn't
believe me and he didn't particularly care what others at Logitech were
saying. 

I can see the left hand still doesn't know what the right hand is up
to. 

Why do I have this bad feeling that having pre-ordered a Touch may turn
out to have only been a sure way to place one's self at the bottom of
the list? 

Radio battery anyone?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Exactly where can I buy a Touch?

2010-04-07 Thread iPhone

maggior;531209 Wrote: 
 I went to Logitech's main website and found the Touch, but it shows out
 of stock.  Amazon still shows it as a preorder.  Clicking on buy now
 at the top of these forums takes me to a dead link.
 
 Where exactly are people buying these?

I have the same question. Both the Accessory and Online Store pages
just time out. When I click on the Logitech.com link at the bottom of
the Logitechsqueezebox.com page, it takes me to the French Logitech
site. I speak French and read it fairly good so I followed the Produits
links to the Squeezeboxes and its just a white page. So I type in
Logitech.com/en-us and the Squeezebox page is a white page.

Just read another post that somebody just ordered their Touch, from
what URL? Is there a phone number to do a phone order?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch released or not?

2010-04-07 Thread MickeyG

Yes, it's been released. Looks like the news hasn't filtered through the
entire chain.

Thank you for the report. I'll try to get this fixed.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch released or not?

2010-04-07 Thread MickeyG

I am also working on the Out of Stock notification you get when you try
to buy a Squeezebox Touch from Logitech.com.

Some computers didn't get the word, either! :-)

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Release date touch 10th of april

2010-04-07 Thread dave77

Ikabob;531213 Wrote: 
 What about the pre-orders in the US. Anyone know when they might be
 going out? My order still says in process. I would like to see that
 change. Anyone?

Same for my UK order, what's going on with them, they're showing in
stock now, get them sent out!!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Exactly where can I buy a Touch?

2010-04-07 Thread bklaas

It's being worked on right now. In a perfect world all of the wheels of
big corporate ecommerce would be in sync. It is not a perfect world.
:)

Touch is in stock, it's just a matter of getting the ecommerce sites
updated.

If you call a Sales person and they tell you July, they have bad
information.
If you try to buy and it says out of stock, give it a little time.
There is stock.

Finally, sorry. It's a good product worth waiting for. I feel your
pain, I really do.

If I had to guess, Logi.com will be working before Amazon, but it's
really just a guess.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Release date touch 10th of april

2010-04-07 Thread toby10

maggior;531148 Wrote: 
 Is this post in some secret forum?  When I click your link, I'm told I
 don't have permission.

I don't think the Touch beta forums have been unlocked yet.
This is where MickeyG posted his comment.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Release date touch 10th of april

2010-04-07 Thread Kevint

dave77;531225 Wrote: 
 Same for my UK order, what's going on with them, they're showing in
 stock now, get them sent out!!

On the UK site I can 'Add to cart' but then it shows as Out of Stock,
so infuriating having waited this long.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Release date touch 10th of april

2010-04-07 Thread krochat

Ikabob;531213 Wrote: 
 What about the pre-orders in the US. Anyone know when they might be
 going out? My order still says in process. I would like to see that
 change. Anyone?

FWIW, I've had a pre-order with Crutchfield since November. Today the
order status has gone from preorder to backorder. I contacted them
and they said they had no ETA for delivery.

Birthday in 2 weeks and fingers crossed,
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Release date touch 10th of april

2010-04-07 Thread krochat

Ikabob;531213 Wrote: 
 What about the pre-orders in the US. Anyone know when they might be
 going out? My order still says in process. I would like to see that
 change. Anyone?

FWIW, I've had a pre-order with Crutchfield since November. Today the
order status has gone from preorder to backorder. I contacted them
and they said they had no ETA for delivery.

Birthday in 2 weeks and fingers crossed,
Kim


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Release date touch 10th of april

2010-04-07 Thread Kevint

dave77;531225 Wrote: 
 Same for my UK order, what's going on with them, they're showing in
 stock now, get them sent out!!

On the UK site I can 'Add to cart' but then it shows as Out of Stock,
so infuriating having waited this long.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] March Madness: Touch Release Pool

2010-04-07 Thread bklaas


A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the
results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76494

Question: March Madness Pool: When do you believe the Touch will be
released?

- April 15-30 2010
- May 1-15 2010
- May 16-31 2010
- Summer of 2010
- Fall of 2010
- Right before Christmas 2010


Where's the option on the poll for April 6th :)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Release date touch 10th of april

2010-04-07 Thread testmatch

dave77;531225 Wrote: 
 Same for my UK order, what's going on with them, they're showing in
 stock now, get them sent out!!

I contacted Logitech UK about my October pre-order and they assured me
that mine will be despatched from Holland tomorrow. So with the 3/4
business days free delivery option I picked last year, it should reach
me in England on Monday or Tuesday.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Exactly where can I buy a Touch?

2010-04-07 Thread gfuchs

Thanks for the update.
Hopefully they will be rolling out the door soon.

I am sure they will be worth the wait.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch released or not?

2010-04-07 Thread kesey

MickeyG;531223 Wrote: 
 I am also working on the Out of Stock notification you get when you try
 to buy a Squeezebox Touch from Logitech.com. The Squeezebox Touch is
 definitely in stock.
 
 Some computers didn't get the word, either! :-)
 
 Mickey

Mickey, well done to you, to Michael Herger, to AndyG and to Ben. You
all did your best, as I'm sure did many others, to move things along
and to keep things sane since last October.

The problem now is that our toys are in process somewhere. When a guy
knows his toys are available, but just not now, soon, he reverts to
his infanthood again. Mind you. my wife would probably say I've never
left mine.

Thanks for all the work, and for keeping us as informed as it was
possible to do.

I enjoy my music much more via the use of the Squeezebox family, and I
very much look forward to my Touch.

kesey.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Exactly where can I buy a Touch?

2010-04-07 Thread jstraw

bklaas;531231 Wrote: 
 It's being worked on right now. In a perfect world all of the wheels of
 big corporate ecommerce would be in sync. It is not a perfect world.
 :)
 #!/ben

It's not that big of a deal. It's a plaything after all and I'll have
mine in good time.

But let's be serious here...for a product launch for a fifth item in a
current product line to fly below the radar inside the division is a
bit odd. This would be like having to convince an Apple employee that
the iPad really has been released. With a line as small as
Squeezebox's, how can the latest product sneak out the door? Is there
no internal cheerleading going on?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] March Madness: Touch Release Pool

2010-04-07 Thread iPhone


A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the
results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76494

Question: March Madness Pool: When do you believe the Touch will be
released?

- April 15-30 2010
- May 1-15 2010
- May 16-31 2010
- Summer of 2010
- Fall of 2010
- Right before Christmas 2010


maggior;531269 Wrote: 
 Since I voted between April 1 and April 15
 (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=527519postcount=3), do I
 win a free Touch :-).

Maybe you already did, but most of the websites are down and the Touch
shows out of stock. No way to tell ;=}


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[SlimDevices: Touch] Availability of the Wall Mount accessory?

2010-04-07 Thread chrislemasters

Anyone know when the wall mount accessory might be available for the
Touch?  Any word on pricing beyond initial speculation of $50+?  The
pictures posted by a beta tester of the product mounted on the wall
were pretty spectacular.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch released or not?

2010-04-07 Thread gfuchs

While you are at it, maybe wonder by the people that process orders.
Let them know to start shipping them? ;)
(You know the dusty boxes in the warehouse)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch released or not?

2010-04-07 Thread gfuchs

While you are at it, maybe wonder by the people that process orders.
Let them know to start shipping them? ;)
(You know the dusty boxes in the warehouse)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Availability of the Wall Mount accessory?

2010-04-07 Thread iPhone

chrislemasters;531281 Wrote: 
 Anyone know when the wall mount accessory might be available for the
 Touch?  Any word on pricing beyond initial speculation of $50+?  The
 pictures posted by a beta tester of the product mounted on the wall
 were pretty spectacular.

I think the last speculated price was '$99'
(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68046highlight=Touch+wallmount).
If you can believe that.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Availability of the Wall Mount accessory?

2010-04-07 Thread iPhone

chrislemasters;531281 Wrote: 
 Anyone know when the wall mount accessory might be available for the
 Touch?  Any word on pricing beyond initial speculation of $50+?  The
 pictures posted by a beta tester of the product mounted on the wall
 were pretty spectacular.

I think the last speculated price was '$99'
(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68046highlight=Touch+wallmount).
If you can believe that.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Why Purchase a Touch??

2010-04-07 Thread Subarctic Audiophile

There are now lots of options for streaming music from a computer or
directly from a hard drive, so this is a very timely question.

I originally purchased an SB3 in 2006 primarily for its Internet radio
abilities. But I also experimented with using Slimserver (now
Squeezeserver) to stream FLAC files from a computer on my network. I
have now ripped my music collection to FLAC using XLD and have done
lots of re-tagging using Sbooth's Tag.

After experimenting with a direct connection from the computer to my
DAC via USB, I've realized (1) that having an intermediary layer such
as SS/Squeezebox allows a lot more flexibility in the control of the
system (i.e. it can be controlled from any computer on the network and
via iPeng), and (2) I can use my music server as a central repository
of files for playback on a second system in my house.

I'm looking forward to purchasing a Touch primarily for its ability to
stream 24/96 files. My SB3 will then be used in my office/studio.

Although there are many other good options for streaming music files, I
think that - for my purposes - the squeezebox concept works well. My
guess is that this stuff will mature and become much more standardized
and easier to use in the near future!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch released or not?

2010-04-07 Thread BrianB

I think this latest confusion is just because they were trying to get it
out as soon as they could. Right after 7.5 was done, someone pushed the
go button and didn't tell everyone in the chain. They never really
had a release date, which is why I found another solution, but I think
this one came down to wait another week or so to get all the ducks in
a row or just release it. Someone decided to just release it. In the
end, this way is probably faster, at least for the for the pre-order
folks, even if the sales side and the retail channels are now
scrambling to put resources towards actually delivering the product.
You have to remember that until about 48 hours ago, I don't think
anyone, including their own sales staff, had any idea when this thing
was going to come out.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Why Purchase a Touch??

2010-04-07 Thread sawdin

More questions, TIA, once again:

1) Does the SB server software enable a person to access playlists
(i.e., actually just links to tracks) in a music service such as MOG? 
I do not use Rhapsody/Napster, and would like to continue to use MOG as
most of the tracks stream at 320kbps, a few at 256.

2) If the Vortebox Appliance is set up to rip CD's and tag, does the
software also provide catalog/library management capabilities similar
to products like JRiver Media Center or Foobar, or does it just provide
for ripping and tagging of CD's?

Thanks,
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Why Purchase a Touch??

2010-04-07 Thread agillis

sawdin;531309 Wrote: 
 More questions, TIA, once again:
 
 1) Does the SB server software enable a person to access playlists
 (i.e., actually just links to tracks) in a music service such as MOG? 
 I do not use Rhapsody/Napster, and would like to continue to use MOG as
 most of the tracks stream at 320kbps, a few at 256.
 
 2) If the Vortebox Appliance is set up to rip CD's and tag, does the
 software also provide catalog/library management capabilities similar
 to products like JRiver Media Center or Foobar, or does it just provide
 for ripping and tagging of CD's?
 
 Thanks,
 Dino

1. SBS allows you to listen to you own music, playlists, and streaming
music. I'm not sure Squeezebox has MOG integration but it might be a
future feature.

2. It does provide music management but I'm not sure it's like jRiver
or Foobar.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch released or not?

2010-04-07 Thread mlsstl

Well, released or not, I think I'm still in the I'll believe it when
it arrives category

;-)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch released or not?

2010-04-07 Thread Ikabob

kesey;531264 Wrote: 
 Mickey, well done to you, to Michael Herger, to AndyG and to Ben. You
 all did your best, as I'm sure did many others, to move things along
 and to keep things sane since last October.
 
 The problem now is that our toys are in process somewhere. When a guy
 knows his toys are available, but just not now, soon, he reverts to
 his infanthood again. Mind you. my wife would probably say I've never
 left mine.
 
 Thanks for all the work, and for keeping us as informed as it was
 possible to do.
 
 I enjoy my music much more via the use of the Squeezebox family, and I
 very much look forward to my Touch.
 
 kesey.




DITTO (including the wife thing)   Thank you!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Exactly where can I buy a Touch?

2010-04-07 Thread active_mann

On the thread's initial topic:  I just saw in stock for the Touch on
logitech.com and placed an order.  Woo hoo!  Can't wait!
Amazon still shows not yet released (as of 4:25 pm ET in USA).


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] New to Squeezbox/ touch need advice

2010-04-07 Thread active_mann

Hi Gellie,

The Western Digital My Book Essential Edition USB hard drives use a
vertical fanless case; they are silent and inexpensive.  I've been
ripping to one for several months and it's worked perfectly. 

Good luck with your project.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch released or not?

2010-04-07 Thread MickeyG

The incorrect Out of Stock message when buying a Squeezebox Touch from
US and Canada Logitech.com web sites has been fixed. As I suspected,
it's a computer glitch. Took a few hours to get it resolved.

I've not been able to help out with the Out of Stock message on the
European Logitech.com web sites. They're asleep right now, and I'll get
in touch with them to straighten it out. Hopefully it will be
straightened out tomorrow.

Mickey


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch released or not?

2010-04-07 Thread MickeyG

kesey;531264 Wrote: 
 Mickey, well done to you, to Michael Herger, to AndyG and to Ben. You
 all did your best, as I'm sure did many others, to move things along
 and to keep things sane since last October.
 
 The problem now is that our toys are in process somewhere. When a guy
 knows his toys are available, but just not now, soon, he reverts to
 his infanthood again. Mind you. my wife would probably say I've never
 left mine.
 
 Thanks for all the work, and for keeping us as informed as it was
 possible to do.
 
 I enjoy my music much more via the use of the Squeezebox family, and I
 very much look forward to my Touch.
 
 kesey.

Thank you very much for your support.

We have warehouses in the US and Europe. None of them are in
California, where I am, so I can't go down and investigate.

But all of the things we can do to get them to ship Squeezebox Touch
units that were pre-ordered have been done. They should be shipping
pretty soon, and may already be in a truck leaving the warehouse.

Please post back here when you receive your unit.

Mickey


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] New to Squeezbox/ touch need advice

2010-04-07 Thread JJZolx

gellie;531314 Wrote: 
 not that the release seems pending, I need advice on a good 500gb+usb
 drive to connect to the Touch. Also how do i move my ripped music
 from my mac to the usb drive? Thanks

If you want to avoid another plug and power adapter, you'll want to use
a 2.5 drive, most of which can be powered by the Touch's USB port.  If
you want a larger 3.5 drive then it must power itself.  If you can, I
would recommend waiting a while for feedback from other users as to
which currently produced external USB drives are known work with the
Touch.  I was in on the beta testing and have a 2.5 drive (Apricorn)
that only sometimes works.

If you want to leave the USB drive attached to the Touch, the Touch
will share the music folder over the network so that you can add,
delete and modify music files in your library across your home network.
Of course you also just plug the drive into another computer to manage
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Exactly where can I buy a Touch?

2010-04-07 Thread jeanwedding

Hope I can order thru Best Buy. wanna use the free no interest finacing
Thanks 
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] New to Squeezbox/ touch need advice

2010-04-07 Thread cooppw02

Those are 2 good questions.  Most current model external drives seem to
be 1TB and up.  Lacie models seem to be well-regarded and also look
pretty.  

Personally, I buy a bare drive and enclosures separately.  It's a good
way to get some decent features, ensure you get a quality drive, and
keep the price down.  The only difference from buying off the shelf is
that you'll also have to format it, which isn't difficult.  Newegg has
a ton of options.

As for tools for copying, I use Grsync.  It's perfect for this use: 
you specify a source directory and a destination directory, and it
takes care of the rest.  It compares the source and destination, and
only copies those files that don't exist in the destination folder.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch released or not?

2010-04-07 Thread ste1

MickeyG;531343 Wrote: 
 Thank you very much for your support.
 
 We have warehouses in the US and Europe. None of them are in
 California, where I am, so I can't go down and investigate.
 
 But all of the things we can do to get them to ship Squeezebox Touch
 units that were pre-ordered have been done. They should be shipping
 pretty soon, and may already be in a truck leaving the warehouse.
 
 Please post back here when you receive your unit.
 
 Mickey

Hi

Any news on UK availability? - Logitech website still saying 'out of
stock' as of 21.30 GMT today 7th April.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Exactly where can I buy a Touch?

2010-04-07 Thread SuperQ

I wonder if it's still possible to buy them and pick them up from the
office in mountain view. :)

Anybody know?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch released or not?

2010-04-07 Thread Kevint

ste1;531363 Wrote: 
 Hi
 
 Any news on UK availability? - Logitech website still saying 'out of
 stock' as of 21.30 GMT today 7th April.
 
 Cheers

Mickey said  I've not been able to help out with the Out of Stock
message on the European Logitech.com web sites. They're asleep right
now, and I'll get in touch with them to straighten it out. Hopefully it
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Exactly where can I buy a Touch?

2010-04-07 Thread aubuti

SuperQ;531364 Wrote: 
 I wonder if it's still possible to buy them and pick them up from the
 office in mountain view. :)
I strongly doubt it, since they've moved all sales to the mother ship.
Also, a while ago it was posted that the MV office would be closing,
and that the staff in MV would move to Logitech's facility in Fremont,
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Couple of questions from a soon to be Touch owner

2010-04-07 Thread peterw

craiglester;531197 Wrote: 
 
 (I'll be using the touch as a server btw, for itself and 1 SB3, with
 approx 20,000 tracks - about 300 Gb of FLAC and MP3)
 
 1. Does anyone have a recommendation for a small portable HDD that
 comes with a psu (as the touch can't provide the required power).

I can't speak about larger (300-500 GB) drives, but I've tested a
number of 2.5 drives in the 80-160 GB range, and all worked fine with
bus power. I only know of one user who had trouble with bus power.
Alas, that was a ~300 GB Western Digital blue (not black) drive...

Note: my Touch is a pre-release hardware build; I don't know how many
beta testers have the final build, and it is conceivable, though I
think unlikely, that the final hardware design might behave
differently.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Couple of questions from a soon to be Touch owner

2010-04-07 Thread mherger

You might be interested in this table:

http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/USB_Compatibility

I've been running a 2.5 disk usb powered for months now. Not very
recent disks though...


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Couple of questions from a soon to be Touch owner

2010-04-07 Thread JJZolx

craiglester;531197 Wrote: 
 2. On the limitations wiki it states that FLAC encoded  48Khz and
 compressed with Best or -8 won't work. Does this mean if the file is
 over 48 Khz AND encoded at -8, or is it either condition? I have a lot
 of flac encoded at -8 (16/44.1, do I need to re encode all this to -5?

It's AND.  I'm pretty certain 16/44.1 compressed at -8 will play
without a problem.  It's high bitrate files with high compression that
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Why Purchase a Touch??

2010-04-07 Thread sawdin

Thanks for the information!  MOG claims they are planning on integrating
w/ SB, but they do not have any timeframe.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch released or not?

2010-04-07 Thread reselin

MickeyG;531343 Wrote: 
 Thank you very much for your support.
 
 We have warehouses in the US and Europe. None of them are in
 California, where I am, so I can't go down and investigate.
 
 But all of the things we can do to get them to ship Squeezebox Touch
 units that were pre-ordered have been done. They should be shipping
 pretty soon, and may already be in a truck leaving the warehouse.
 
 Please post back here when you receive your unit.
 
 Mickey

I had to call in because I've moved since I placed the preorder last
year and needed to make sure that they would deliver my order to my new
location.

The lady I spoke to said that she couldn't update my address at this
time because they would have to cancel the order and place a new one,
and didn't want to do that because I would lose my place in line and to
call back after I get the email stating it had been shipped and then
they would call UPS and provide them with a new shipping address.

I asked her when that should happen, and she said that this afternoon
they were all updated that shipments were probably not going to happen
until the end of this month, or the beginning of next month at the
latest, and so I should just watch my email account for the next few
weeks until I get that email confirmation of shipping.

So, it sounds like they may be allowing more orders by placing it to
in-stock but that actual shipments may not be happening for several
more weeks???

Is there any update on when the first shipments are going to start
happening?

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Couple of questions from a soon to be Touch owner

2010-04-07 Thread peterw

mherger;531380 Wrote: 
 You might be interested in this table:
 
 http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/USB_Compatibility

Thanks for digging that up. Clearly my memory is no good, as that shows
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch released or not?

2010-04-07 Thread Dbalt

Just FYI.  Logitech site says out of stock.  Maybe with the release they
all sold out.  

Just glad it's released and I got a great price ($229).  I'd originally
ordered on Amazon (wife got it for me for Christmas) but when someone
posted two super coupons on this forum I switched my order.  It's still
in process.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Couple of questions from a soon to be Touch owner

2010-04-07 Thread iPhone

Why do people use -8 anymore? Large drives are readily available and
cheap for that matter. And the average savings on an album between -5
and -8 is not worth the processor overhead or even the saved space on a
2TB drive. Even on a huge 2TB drive, I don't think using -8 versus -5
will save enough safe to allow one to get just one more album on the
drive.

Speaking of drives, if anybody is having issues or starting to see odd
things, check your remaining drive space. Don't fill a drive all the
way up even if its only going to be write once then read only
afterwards.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch released or not?

2010-04-07 Thread Interzone

Dbalt;531393 Wrote: 
  I got a great price ($229).

Ouch, it's $400 in the UK.


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[SlimDevices: Touch] Headphones/Touch

2010-04-07 Thread Dbalt

Does anyone know if I can leave wireless headphones connected to the
Touch (and powered speakers) and switch between the two without
unplugging the headphones?  I would think so.  Then I could just leave
headphones connected all the time and turn them on when I like.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Headphones/Touch

2010-04-07 Thread JohnSwenson

Plugging headphones into the headphone jack does not turn off anything
else. You can have headphones, analog out and digital out all running
simultaneously. 

The one thing you can't do is have separate volumes between them, the
headphones get the same volume as the analog outs. 

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Headphones/Touch

2010-04-07 Thread Dbalt

It would be good if you could switch (via duet controller or web remote)
between headphone output and other outputs, sort of like the headphone
switcher app for the duet controller.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Couple of questions from a soon to be Touch owner

2010-04-07 Thread krochat

JJZolx;531412 Wrote: 
 An explanation of why may be in order...  Squeezebox Server running on
 the Touch will store its library database and its resized artwork (also
 a database) on the drive itself.  So leave some room for these files. 
 This is kind of a nice feature, as each drive can be considered to be
 an autonomous 'library'.  Changing libraries is as simple as swapping
 disk drives.

I was assuming that if you switched drives that the Touch would rescan
everything on the new drive, causing delays and extra drive wear. 

If switching drives really works without excessive overhead and music
on the new drive is available in a few seconds, I may just do that with
my current USB enclosures rather than trying to build that 3.0TB USB
disk array I was asking about on another thread.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Couple of questions from a soon to be Touch owner

2010-04-07 Thread JJZolx

krochat;531427 Wrote: 
 I was assuming that if you switched drives that the Touch would rescan
 everything on the new drive, causing delays and extra drive wear.

It does rescan when you plug in the drive, but it only looks for
changes so is pretty fast when there are no or few changes.  I don't
think it delays the availability of the server very much.  If you plug
in a drive that doesn't have a library database on it yet then it does
have to do an in-depth scan of all the audio files.  I think maybe the
library can begin to be used, though, while it's still scanning.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Couple of questions from a soon to be Touch owner

2010-04-07 Thread Pat Farrell
iPhone wrote:
 Why do people use -8 anymore? Large drives are readily available and
 cheap for that matter. And the average savings on an album between -5
 and -8 is not worth the processor overhead or even the saved space on a
 2TB drive. 

Its only overhead on compression. The expansion time is the same. Since
you only do it once, why not crank it up. Sure, it saves nothing, but
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[SlimDevices: Touch] can order the touch on line now!

2010-04-07 Thread tomasito

The touch is now avialable for on line purchase at the logitech
website.
The CS told me it will be available by the end of the month with other
on line site


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch released or not?

2010-04-07 Thread kllngtme

any idea when amazon might get some in stock to send to customers who
preordered it? :)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Headphones/Touch

2010-04-07 Thread jstraw

JohnSwenson;531418 Wrote: 
 Plugging headphones into the headphone jack does not turn off anything
 else. You can have headphones, analog out and digital out all running
 simultaneously. 
 
 The one thing you can't do is have separate volumes between them, the
 headphones get the same volume as the analog outs. 
 
 John S.

Is having the line and/or digital outs not be subject to volume control
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Headphones/Touch

2010-04-07 Thread JohnSwenson

jstraw;531459 Wrote: 
 Is having the line and/or digital outs not be subject to volume control
 a user configurable setting?

No its not. The way its setup right now both the digital and analog
outs are fed from the same stream. It would take a rewrite of the
squeezeplay output code to generate two streams, one full volume and
one attenuted. 

The hardware can handle it, they get fed from separate ports on the
processor, but I'm not sure if squeezeplay was designed for that. 

I think there is already an enhancement request for this. 

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Headphones/Touch

2010-04-07 Thread JohnSwenson

Dbalt;531426 Wrote: 
 It would be good if you could switch (via duet controller or web remote)
 between headphone output and other outputs, sort of like the headphone
 switcher app for the duet controller.

I'm pretty sure its theoretically possible to turn off the headphone
output because it has to be turned off when the jack is used for IR
blasting. But there is no way to turn off the analog outs AND still
have signal going to the headphone jack. The same DAC chip drives both
and there is no switch between the DAC and the analog outs, thus you
can't turn them off. 

It should be possible to switch between the digital out and the
headphone jack because the digital out and the DAC come from different
hardware ports, but that would take some significant rewrite of
squeezeplay. 

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Headphones/Touch

2010-04-07 Thread jstraw

JohnSwenson;531481 Wrote: 
 No its not. The way its setup right now both the digital and analog outs
 are fed from the same stream. It would take a rewrite of the squeezeplay
 output code to generate two streams, one full volume and one attenuted.
 
 
 The hardware can handle it, they get fed from separate ports on the
 processor, but I'm not sure if squeezeplay was designed for that. 
 
 I think there is already an enhancement request for this. 
 
 John S.

I would just prefer the option to send an external amplifier a
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch released or not?

2010-04-07 Thread amcluesent

We'll know when they've shipped when mysqueezebox.com crashes due to
'unexpected demand' :)


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