[Touch-packages] [Bug 1574777] Re: tablet connected to monitor shows black screen - Idek Iiyama PL2409HD
** Changed in: canonical-devices-system-image Status: New => Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to mir in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1574777 Title: tablet connected to monitor shows black screen - Idek Iiyama PL2409HD Status in Canonical System Image: Confirmed Status in Mir: New Status in mir package in Ubuntu: New Status in qtmir package in Ubuntu: New Status in unity8 package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: When connecting my M10 device to my monitor (Idek Iiyama PL2409HD), the monitor shows that there is a signal on hdmi, but the screen stays black. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1574777/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 1574777] Re: tablet connected to monitor shows black screen - Idek Iiyama PL2409HD
Thanks for the clarification. That bug sounds similar but when dealing with individuals' experiences with different device types, it's best to not merge such bugs. Because we're often surprised when we find they have different root causes. And then people get upset when their duplicate bug isn't resolved with the main bug's resolution. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to mir in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1574777 Title: tablet connected to monitor shows black screen - Idek Iiyama PL2409HD Status in Canonical System Image: New Status in Mir: New Status in mir package in Ubuntu: New Status in qtmir package in Ubuntu: New Status in unity8 package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: When connecting my M10 device to my monitor (Idek Iiyama PL2409HD), the monitor shows that there is a signal on hdmi, but the screen stays black. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1574777/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 1574777] Re: tablet connected to monitor shows black screen - Idek Iiyama PL2409HD
Ok. As said, I see "0.6Hz" when connecting to my tv, which works. Can this bug report "merged" with https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1574635 Seems to me the very same problem. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to mir in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1574777 Title: tablet connected to monitor shows black screen - Idek Iiyama PL2409HD Status in Canonical System Image: New Status in Mir: New Status in mir package in Ubuntu: New Status in qtmir package in Ubuntu: New Status in unity8 package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: When connecting my M10 device to my monitor (Idek Iiyama PL2409HD), the monitor shows that there is a signal on hdmi, but the screen stays black. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1574777/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 1574777] Re: tablet connected to monitor shows black screen - Idek Iiyama PL2409HD
Yes 0.6Hz sounds bad but I'm hoping we can ignore it for a couple of reasons: 1. Mir does not use that information to change its behaviour. Only prints it out. Instead Mir will sync to vblank (60Hz or whatever). 1.1. Android drivers on the other hand might use that information, which would be bad but not if #2 is proven... 2. If other M10 owners also see "0.6Hz" but can get external displays to work fine then the 0.6Hz message is benign and is a minor bug that can be ignored. In that case it's _not_ an indication of the speed Mir is trying to render at. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to mir in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1574777 Title: tablet connected to monitor shows black screen - Idek Iiyama PL2409HD Status in Canonical System Image: New Status in Mir: New Status in mir package in Ubuntu: New Status in qtmir package in Ubuntu: New Status in unity8 package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: When connecting my M10 device to my monitor (Idek Iiyama PL2409HD), the monitor shows that there is a signal on hdmi, but the screen stays black. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1574777/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 1574777] Re: tablet connected to monitor shows black screen - Idek Iiyama PL2409HD
Sorry, I'd attached the wrong unity8.log. Now this one is the one I described above. Hmm, and why can you ignore that the mirserver logs the same wrong information about the display for two different monitors? ** Attachment added: "unity8.log" https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1574777/+attachment/4660584/+files/unity8.log -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to mir in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1574777 Title: tablet connected to monitor shows black screen - Idek Iiyama PL2409HD Status in Canonical System Image: New Status in Mir: New Status in mir package in Ubuntu: New Status in qtmir package in Ubuntu: New Status in unity8 package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: When connecting my M10 device to my monitor (Idek Iiyama PL2409HD), the monitor shows that there is a signal on hdmi, but the screen stays black. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1574777/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 1574777] Re: tablet connected to monitor shows black screen - Idek Iiyama PL2409HD
** Attachment removed: "unity8.log" https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1574777/+attachment/4660210/+files/unity8.log -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to mir in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1574777 Title: tablet connected to monitor shows black screen - Idek Iiyama PL2409HD Status in Canonical System Image: New Status in Mir: New Status in mir package in Ubuntu: New Status in qtmir package in Ubuntu: New Status in unity8 package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: When connecting my M10 device to my monitor (Idek Iiyama PL2409HD), the monitor shows that there is a signal on hdmi, but the screen stays black. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1574777/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 1574777] Re: tablet connected to monitor shows black screen - Idek Iiyama PL2409HD
Can I assume other M10 owners also see "0,60Hz" or "0.60Hz"?.. In that case we could ignore that bit. ** Changed in: mir Status: Incomplete => New ** Changed in: mir (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete => New ** Changed in: qtmir (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete => New ** Changed in: unity8 (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete => New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to mir in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1574777 Title: tablet connected to monitor shows black screen - Idek Iiyama PL2409HD Status in Canonical System Image: New Status in Mir: New Status in mir package in Ubuntu: New Status in qtmir package in Ubuntu: New Status in unity8 package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: When connecting my M10 device to my monitor (Idek Iiyama PL2409HD), the monitor shows that there is a signal on hdmi, but the screen stays black. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1574777/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 1574777] Re: tablet connected to monitor shows black screen - Idek Iiyama PL2409HD
Interesting you say the same tablet and cable works on your TV. That suggests it might be a signal/connection incompatibility in the Idek Iiyama PL2409HD rather than a software problem. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to mir in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1574777 Title: tablet connected to monitor shows black screen - Idek Iiyama PL2409HD Status in Canonical System Image: New Status in Mir: New Status in mir package in Ubuntu: New Status in qtmir package in Ubuntu: New Status in unity8 package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: When connecting my M10 device to my monitor (Idek Iiyama PL2409HD), the monitor shows that there is a signal on hdmi, but the screen stays black. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1574777/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 1574777] Re: tablet connected to monitor shows black screen - Idek Iiyama PL2409HD
Because Stephen mentioned on the mailing list that it could depend on the cable, I bought a second one, but no luck with that either. 1. sorry, the M10 is my only tablet/phone with hdmi 2. tablet+cables work on my LCD-TV. It seems my tv also wants a refresh rate of 0,60Hz [2016-05-10 22:53:54.491656] mirserver: New display configuration: [2016-05-10 22:53:54.500558] mirserver: 0.1: LVDS 10,0" 135x216mm [2016-05-10 22:53:54.500700] mirserver:Current mode 1200x1920 57,07Hz [2016-05-10 22:53:54.500730] mirserver:Preferred mode 1200x1920 57,07Hz [2016-05-10 22:53:54.500753] mirserver:Logical position +0+0 [2016-05-10 22:53:54.510085] mirserver: 0.2: DisplayPort 9,2" 203x114mm [2016-05-10 22:53:54.510203] mirserver:Current mode 1920x1080 0,60Hz [2016-05-10 22:53:54.510259] mirserver:Preferred mode 1920x1080 0,60Hz [2016-05-10 22:53:54.510330] mirserver:Logical position +1200+0 [2016-05-10 22:53:54.510371] mirserver: 0.3: unused LVDS [2016-05-10 22:54:49.797556] mirserver: New display configuration: [2016-05-10 22:54:49.832026] mirserver: 0.1: LVDS 10,0" 135x216mm [2016-05-10 22:54:49.841870] mirserver:Current mode 1200x1920 57,07Hz [2016-05-10 22:54:49.844096] mirserver:Preferred mode 1200x1920 57,07Hz [2016-05-10 22:54:49.846243] mirserver:Logical position +0+0 [2016-05-10 22:54:49.849306] mirserver: 0.2: unused DisplayPort [2016-05-10 22:54:49.850798] mirserver: 0.3: unused LVDS 3. M10's screen changes to the grey virtual touchpad immediately, after a few seconds the OSD of the monitor shows that there is something on hdmi, the backlights go on, but only black pixels. In the attach unity8.log: I made a "service lightdm restart", plugged in the tv , saw the desktop on the tv-screen, unplugged the tv, plugged in the monitor, waited a few 30 seconds, unplugged the monitor. ** Attachment added: "unity8.log" https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1574777/+attachment/4660210/+files/unity8.log ** Changed in: canonical-devices-system-image Status: Incomplete => New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to mir in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1574777 Title: tablet connected to monitor shows black screen - Idek Iiyama PL2409HD Status in Canonical System Image: New Status in Mir: Incomplete Status in mir package in Ubuntu: Incomplete Status in qtmir package in Ubuntu: Incomplete Status in unity8 package in Ubuntu: Incomplete Bug description: When connecting my M10 device to my monitor (Idek Iiyama PL2409HD), the monitor shows that there is a signal on hdmi, but the screen stays black. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1574777/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 1574777] Re: tablet connected to monitor shows black screen - Idek Iiyama PL2409HD
Well, I suppose the problem is that the monitor simply rejects refreshing at 0,60Hz. According to unity8 it does create a second screen etc., so I suspect the device screen changes to "virtual touchpad", but nothing's displayed on the external screen because of the crazy refresh rate. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to mir in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1574777 Title: tablet connected to monitor shows black screen - Idek Iiyama PL2409HD Status in Canonical System Image: Incomplete Status in Mir: Incomplete Status in mir package in Ubuntu: Incomplete Status in qtmir package in Ubuntu: Incomplete Status in unity8 package in Ubuntu: Incomplete Bug description: When connecting my M10 device to my monitor (Idek Iiyama PL2409HD), the monitor shows that there is a signal on hdmi, but the screen stays black. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1574777/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 1574777] Re: tablet connected to monitor shows black screen - Idek Iiyama PL2409HD
ch: Please try/check: 1. The same HDMI cable plugged into a different tablet/phone. 2. The same tablet+cable plugged into a different monitor. 3. Does the M10's screen change when you plug in the cable? I thought it was meant to...? ** Changed in: canonical-devices-system-image Status: New => Incomplete ** Changed in: mir Status: New => Incomplete ** Changed in: mir (Ubuntu) Status: New => Incomplete ** Changed in: qtmir (Ubuntu) Status: New => Incomplete ** Changed in: unity8 (Ubuntu) Status: New => Incomplete -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to mir in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1574777 Title: tablet connected to monitor shows black screen - Idek Iiyama PL2409HD Status in Canonical System Image: Incomplete Status in Mir: Incomplete Status in mir package in Ubuntu: Incomplete Status in qtmir package in Ubuntu: Incomplete Status in unity8 package in Ubuntu: Incomplete Bug description: When connecting my M10 device to my monitor (Idek Iiyama PL2409HD), the monitor shows that there is a signal on hdmi, but the screen stays black. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1574777/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 1574777] Re: tablet connected to monitor shows black screen - Idek Iiyama PL2409HD
I take it back. On Mir's android platform the predictive bypass optimization will never delay rendering by more than 10ms at most. So an incorrect EDID won't stop Mir from compositing. Although there might be deeper Android code that is confused by the invalid refresh rate reported by the monitor... Equally possible is a bug in Unity8/QtMir causing the black screen... ** Also affects: qtmir (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Also affects: unity8 (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Tags added: multimonitor -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to mir in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1574777 Title: tablet connected to monitor shows black screen - Idek Iiyama PL2409HD Status in Canonical System Image: New Status in Mir: New Status in mir package in Ubuntu: New Status in qtmir package in Ubuntu: New Status in unity8 package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: When connecting my M10 device to my monitor (Idek Iiyama PL2409HD), the monitor shows that there is a signal on hdmi, but the screen stays black. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1574777/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 1574777] Re: tablet connected to monitor shows black screen - Idek Iiyama PL2409HD
Mir does have some code that will throttle proportionally to the advertised refresh rate. That's the 'predictive bypass' optimization. Although even with that you should see a frames every second or two -- something would be on screen. So the monitor reporting (or Mir detecting?) an incorrect frame rate is not the main problem. As shown in comment #6, Mir did detect the external monitor but it was only connected for 26 seconds. The log appears to show Mir notifying Unity8 of this successfully so I'm not sure who is to blame for the image remaining black. One thing you can test right now is the cable itself. The biggest problem we have with external monitors on the phablet is faulty display cables. They are very common. So if you can, please test the cable on a different device, or test a different cable. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to mir in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1574777 Title: tablet connected to monitor shows black screen - Idek Iiyama PL2409HD Status in Canonical System Image: New Status in Mir: New Status in mir package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: When connecting my M10 device to my monitor (Idek Iiyama PL2409HD), the monitor shows that there is a signal on hdmi, but the screen stays black. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1574777/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 1574777] Re: tablet connected to monitor shows black screen - Idek Iiyama PL2409HD
** Tags added: black-screen -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to mir in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1574777 Title: tablet connected to monitor shows black screen - Idek Iiyama PL2409HD Status in Canonical System Image: New Status in Mir: New Status in mir package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: When connecting my M10 device to my monitor (Idek Iiyama PL2409HD), the monitor shows that there is a signal on hdmi, but the screen stays black. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1574777/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 1574777] Re: tablet connected to monitor shows black screen - Idek Iiyama PL2409HD
Here are the relevant parts of the log: [2016-04-28 23:02:17.359724] mirserver: New display configuration: [2016-04-28 23:02:17.370686] mirserver: 0.1: LVDS 10,0" 135x216mm [2016-04-28 23:02:17.370872] mirserver:Current mode 1200x1920 57,07Hz [2016-04-28 23:02:17.370953] mirserver:Preferred mode 1200x1920 57,07Hz [2016-04-28 23:02:17.371005] mirserver:Logical position +0+0 [2016-04-28 23:02:17.381173] mirserver: 0.2: DisplayPort 9,2" 203x114mm [2016-04-28 23:02:17.381298] mirserver:Current mode 1920x1080 0,60Hz [2016-04-28 23:02:17.381354] mirserver:Preferred mode 1920x1080 0,60Hz [2016-04-28 23:02:17.381406] mirserver:Logical position +1200+0 [2016-04-28 23:02:17.381464] mirserver: 0.3: unused LVDS qtmir.screens: Screen(0x800400) - id: 1 geometry: QRect(0,0 1200x1920) window: 0x14e6e90 type 7 qtmir.screens: Screen(0x12a4760) - id: 2 geometry: QRect(1200,0 1920x1080) window: 0x11ac1a0 type 10 [2016-04-28 23:02:43.188113] mirserver: New display configuration: [2016-04-28 23:02:43.198915] mirserver: 0.1: LVDS 10,0" 135x216mm [2016-04-28 23:02:43.199087] mirserver:Current mode 1200x1920 57,07Hz [2016-04-28 23:02:43.199148] mirserver:Preferred mode 1200x1920 57,07Hz [2016-04-28 23:02:43.199199] mirserver:Logical position +0+0 [2016-04-28 23:02:43.199257] mirserver: 0.2: unused DisplayPort [2016-04-28 23:02:43.199310] mirserver: 0.3: unused LVDS qtmir.screens: Screen(0x800400) - id: 1 geometry: QRect(0,0 1200x1920) window: 0x11ac1a0 type 7 I'm afraid the "Current mode 1920x1080 0,60Hz" part is the culprit. It seems the monitor tricks Mir into thinking it wants a refresh rate of... 0,6 times per second... Looking at the EDID data from Xorg.log no such mode is advertised - there is a lot of "The EDID for Idek Iiyama PL2409HD (DFP-1) contradicts itself" messages. Mir's likely less able to work around such quirks still. ** Also affects: mir Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Also affects: mir (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: canonical-devices-system-image Assignee: Michał Sawicz (saviq) => Stephen M. Webb (bregma) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to mir in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1574777 Title: tablet connected to monitor shows black screen - Idek Iiyama PL2409HD Status in Canonical System Image: New Status in Mir: New Status in mir package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: When connecting my M10 device to my monitor (Idek Iiyama PL2409HD), the monitor shows that there is a signal on hdmi, but the screen stays black. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1574777/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
