[Touch-packages] [Bug 1861340] Re: All bitmap fonts no longer visible after upgrade 19.10 -> Focal (development)
For others with similar problems, I'm keeping my findings up to date here: https://www.tartley.com/dina-as-otf -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to pango1.0 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1861340 Title: All bitmap fonts no longer visible after upgrade 19.10 -> Focal (development) Status in Pango: Fix Released Status in pango1.0 package in Ubuntu: Triaged Bug description: For years I've installed a bitmap font for my terminals, but since I upgraded to Focal (development branch) today, it (and other bitmap fonts) no longer work. The font is 'Dina', from here: http://www.dcmembers.com/jibsen/download/61/?unapproved=504=f1abb9d89caafa881dcfc05cd32372e7 I have always installed it using a script: # install dina sudo mkdir -p /usr/share/fonts/Dina cd /usr/share/fonts/Dina sudo unzip ~/Downloads/Dina.zip # enable bitmap fonts sudo rm -f /etc/fonts/conf.d/70-no-bitmaps.conf # rebuild the cache fc-cache -f -v # Set as default mono font gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface monospace-font-name "Dina 8" This has always worked in the past, through many versions of Ubuntu, including 19.10. I installed Focal today, using `sudo do-release-upgrade -d`. Now the above script does not make Dina visible in font selectors such as that produced by the Tweaks / Fonts / [Monospace Text] button. Terminals that were previously configured to use that font now display the "box of hex digits" characters (what are they called?) gnome-font-viewer does not list any of the installed bitmap fonts. While trying to find a fix, I tried a few changes to the above script, which did not help: * Unzip to "$HOME/.fonts" instead * Trying other symlinks in the fonts config.d: ( cd /etc/fonts/conf.d sudo rm -f 70-no-bitmaps.conf sudo ln -sf ../conf.avail/70-yes-bitmaps.conf ) (tried with both 'yes-bitmaps' and 'force-bitmaps') * fc-cache -r # "really" force cache re-creation To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/pango/+bug/1861340/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 1861340] Re: All bitmap fonts no longer visible after upgrade 19.10 -> Focal (development)
I succeeded with the process of converting a bitmap font into a vector format with embedded bitmaps, which Pango will display. It took me hours to figure out, so for anyone else: Use fontforge, as described here: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/pango/issues/386#note_570411 The gotcha is that once you've installed the resulting font, then it displays invisibly in font selection dialogs. However, don't give up there! If you click around blindly to select the font you want, then the font displays correctly in gnome-terminal, including all size variations, with bold and italic variants. There is some residual weirdness in that selecting a font size that is not defined in the bitmap (e.g. when using 'ctrl-+'), the terminal goes completely blank instead of falling back to another font. For me, using fonttosfnt, as also described in that thread, had many serious issues (eg the resulting font only preserved the bitmap's smallest size variant) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to pango1.0 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1861340 Title: All bitmap fonts no longer visible after upgrade 19.10 -> Focal (development) Status in Pango: Fix Released Status in pango1.0 package in Ubuntu: Triaged Bug description: For years I've installed a bitmap font for my terminals, but since I upgraded to Focal (development branch) today, it (and other bitmap fonts) no longer work. The font is 'Dina', from here: http://www.dcmembers.com/jibsen/download/61/?unapproved=504=f1abb9d89caafa881dcfc05cd32372e7 I have always installed it using a script: # install dina sudo mkdir -p /usr/share/fonts/Dina cd /usr/share/fonts/Dina sudo unzip ~/Downloads/Dina.zip # enable bitmap fonts sudo rm -f /etc/fonts/conf.d/70-no-bitmaps.conf # rebuild the cache fc-cache -f -v # Set as default mono font gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface monospace-font-name "Dina 8" This has always worked in the past, through many versions of Ubuntu, including 19.10. I installed Focal today, using `sudo do-release-upgrade -d`. Now the above script does not make Dina visible in font selectors such as that produced by the Tweaks / Fonts / [Monospace Text] button. Terminals that were previously configured to use that font now display the "box of hex digits" characters (what are they called?) gnome-font-viewer does not list any of the installed bitmap fonts. While trying to find a fix, I tried a few changes to the above script, which did not help: * Unzip to "$HOME/.fonts" instead * Trying other symlinks in the fonts config.d: ( cd /etc/fonts/conf.d sudo rm -f 70-no-bitmaps.conf sudo ln -sf ../conf.avail/70-yes-bitmaps.conf ) (tried with both 'yes-bitmaps' and 'force-bitmaps') * fc-cache -r # "really" force cache re-creation To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/pango/+bug/1861340/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 1861340] Re: All bitmap fonts no longer visible after upgrade 19.10 -> Focal (development)
Thanks for talking me through it Sebastien. Fair enough, I defer to your experience on that. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to pango1.0 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1861340 Title: All bitmap fonts no longer visible after upgrade 19.10 -> Focal (development) Status in Pango: Fix Released Status in pango1.0 package in Ubuntu: Triaged Bug description: For years I've installed a bitmap font for my terminals, but since I upgraded to Focal (development branch) today, it (and other bitmap fonts) no longer work. The font is 'Dina', from here: http://www.dcmembers.com/jibsen/download/61/?unapproved=504=f1abb9d89caafa881dcfc05cd32372e7 I have always installed it using a script: # install dina sudo mkdir -p /usr/share/fonts/Dina cd /usr/share/fonts/Dina sudo unzip ~/Downloads/Dina.zip # enable bitmap fonts sudo rm -f /etc/fonts/conf.d/70-no-bitmaps.conf # rebuild the cache fc-cache -f -v # Set as default mono font gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface monospace-font-name "Dina 8" This has always worked in the past, through many versions of Ubuntu, including 19.10. I installed Focal today, using `sudo do-release-upgrade -d`. Now the above script does not make Dina visible in font selectors such as that produced by the Tweaks / Fonts / [Monospace Text] button. Terminals that were previously configured to use that font now display the "box of hex digits" characters (what are they called?) gnome-font-viewer does not list any of the installed bitmap fonts. While trying to find a fix, I tried a few changes to the above script, which did not help: * Unzip to "$HOME/.fonts" instead * Trying other symlinks in the fonts config.d: ( cd /etc/fonts/conf.d sudo rm -f 70-no-bitmaps.conf sudo ln -sf ../conf.avail/70-yes-bitmaps.conf ) (tried with both 'yes-bitmaps' and 'force-bitmaps') * fc-cache -r # "really" force cache re-creation To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/pango/+bug/1861340/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 1861340] Re: All bitmap fonts no longer visible after upgrade 19.10 -> Focal (development)
The status is just a mapping launchpad does from the gitlab closed state, if you look carrefully you will notice that the Ubuntu line is set as 'triaged'. I'm not sure we want to stay on an older serie for the LTS only to workaround that issue though... -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to pango1.0 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1861340 Title: All bitmap fonts no longer visible after upgrade 19.10 -> Focal (development) Status in Pango: Fix Released Status in pango1.0 package in Ubuntu: Triaged Bug description: For years I've installed a bitmap font for my terminals, but since I upgraded to Focal (development branch) today, it (and other bitmap fonts) no longer work. The font is 'Dina', from here: http://www.dcmembers.com/jibsen/download/61/?unapproved=504=f1abb9d89caafa881dcfc05cd32372e7 I have always installed it using a script: # install dina sudo mkdir -p /usr/share/fonts/Dina cd /usr/share/fonts/Dina sudo unzip ~/Downloads/Dina.zip # enable bitmap fonts sudo rm -f /etc/fonts/conf.d/70-no-bitmaps.conf # rebuild the cache fc-cache -f -v # Set as default mono font gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface monospace-font-name "Dina 8" This has always worked in the past, through many versions of Ubuntu, including 19.10. I installed Focal today, using `sudo do-release-upgrade -d`. Now the above script does not make Dina visible in font selectors such as that produced by the Tweaks / Fonts / [Monospace Text] button. Terminals that were previously configured to use that font now display the "box of hex digits" characters (what are they called?) gnome-font-viewer does not list any of the installed bitmap fonts. While trying to find a fix, I tried a few changes to the above script, which did not help: * Unzip to "$HOME/.fonts" instead * Trying other symlinks in the fonts config.d: ( cd /etc/fonts/conf.d sudo rm -f 70-no-bitmaps.conf sudo ln -sf ../conf.avail/70-yes-bitmaps.conf ) (tried with both 'yes-bitmaps' and 'force-bitmaps') * fc-cache -r # "really" force cache re-creation To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/pango/+bug/1861340/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 1861340] Re: All bitmap fonts no longer visible after upgrade 19.10 -> Focal (development)
I don't think 'fix released' is the right status. Could Focal use a slightly older version of Pango, to keep bitmap fonts working for another 6 months, hoping it becomes clearer how to continue supporting them going forward? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to pango1.0 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1861340 Title: All bitmap fonts no longer visible after upgrade 19.10 -> Focal (development) Status in Pango: Fix Released Status in pango1.0 package in Ubuntu: Triaged Bug description: For years I've installed a bitmap font for my terminals, but since I upgraded to Focal (development branch) today, it (and other bitmap fonts) no longer work. The font is 'Dina', from here: http://www.dcmembers.com/jibsen/download/61/?unapproved=504=f1abb9d89caafa881dcfc05cd32372e7 I have always installed it using a script: # install dina sudo mkdir -p /usr/share/fonts/Dina cd /usr/share/fonts/Dina sudo unzip ~/Downloads/Dina.zip # enable bitmap fonts sudo rm -f /etc/fonts/conf.d/70-no-bitmaps.conf # rebuild the cache fc-cache -f -v # Set as default mono font gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface monospace-font-name "Dina 8" This has always worked in the past, through many versions of Ubuntu, including 19.10. I installed Focal today, using `sudo do-release-upgrade -d`. Now the above script does not make Dina visible in font selectors such as that produced by the Tweaks / Fonts / [Monospace Text] button. Terminals that were previously configured to use that font now display the "box of hex digits" characters (what are they called?) gnome-font-viewer does not list any of the installed bitmap fonts. While trying to find a fix, I tried a few changes to the above script, which did not help: * Unzip to "$HOME/.fonts" instead * Trying other symlinks in the fonts config.d: ( cd /etc/fonts/conf.d sudo rm -f 70-no-bitmaps.conf sudo ln -sf ../conf.avail/70-yes-bitmaps.conf ) (tried with both 'yes-bitmaps' and 'force-bitmaps') * fc-cache -r # "really" force cache re-creation To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/pango/+bug/1861340/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 1861340] Re: All bitmap fonts no longer visible after upgrade 19.10 -> Focal (development)
** Changed in: pango Status: Unknown => Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to pango1.0 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1861340 Title: All bitmap fonts no longer visible after upgrade 19.10 -> Focal (development) Status in Pango: Fix Released Status in pango1.0 package in Ubuntu: Triaged Bug description: For years I've installed a bitmap font for my terminals, but since I upgraded to Focal (development branch) today, it (and other bitmap fonts) no longer work. The font is 'Dina', from here: http://www.dcmembers.com/jibsen/download/61/?unapproved=504=f1abb9d89caafa881dcfc05cd32372e7 I have always installed it using a script: # install dina sudo mkdir -p /usr/share/fonts/Dina cd /usr/share/fonts/Dina sudo unzip ~/Downloads/Dina.zip # enable bitmap fonts sudo rm -f /etc/fonts/conf.d/70-no-bitmaps.conf # rebuild the cache fc-cache -f -v # Set as default mono font gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface monospace-font-name "Dina 8" This has always worked in the past, through many versions of Ubuntu, including 19.10. I installed Focal today, using `sudo do-release-upgrade -d`. Now the above script does not make Dina visible in font selectors such as that produced by the Tweaks / Fonts / [Monospace Text] button. Terminals that were previously configured to use that font now display the "box of hex digits" characters (what are they called?) gnome-font-viewer does not list any of the installed bitmap fonts. While trying to find a fix, I tried a few changes to the above script, which did not help: * Unzip to "$HOME/.fonts" instead * Trying other symlinks in the fonts config.d: ( cd /etc/fonts/conf.d sudo rm -f 70-no-bitmaps.conf sudo ln -sf ../conf.avail/70-yes-bitmaps.conf ) (tried with both 'yes-bitmaps' and 'force-bitmaps') * fc-cache -r # "really" force cache re-creation To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/pango/+bug/1861340/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 1861340] Re: All bitmap fonts no longer visible after upgrade 19.10 -> Focal (development)
Indeed, that's an upstream pango decision to drop support for bitmap fonts ** Changed in: pango1.0 (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided => Low ** Changed in: pango1.0 (Ubuntu) Status: New => Confirmed ** Changed in: pango1.0 (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed => Triaged ** Also affects: pango via https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/pango/issues/386 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to pango1.0 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1861340 Title: All bitmap fonts no longer visible after upgrade 19.10 -> Focal (development) Status in Pango: Unknown Status in pango1.0 package in Ubuntu: Triaged Bug description: For years I've installed a bitmap font for my terminals, but since I upgraded to Focal (development branch) today, it (and other bitmap fonts) no longer work. The font is 'Dina', from here: http://www.dcmembers.com/jibsen/download/61/?unapproved=504=f1abb9d89caafa881dcfc05cd32372e7 I have always installed it using a script: # install dina sudo mkdir -p /usr/share/fonts/Dina cd /usr/share/fonts/Dina sudo unzip ~/Downloads/Dina.zip # enable bitmap fonts sudo rm -f /etc/fonts/conf.d/70-no-bitmaps.conf # rebuild the cache fc-cache -f -v # Set as default mono font gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface monospace-font-name "Dina 8" This has always worked in the past, through many versions of Ubuntu, including 19.10. I installed Focal today, using `sudo do-release-upgrade -d`. Now the above script does not make Dina visible in font selectors such as that produced by the Tweaks / Fonts / [Monospace Text] button. Terminals that were previously configured to use that font now display the "box of hex digits" characters (what are they called?) gnome-font-viewer does not list any of the installed bitmap fonts. While trying to find a fix, I tried a few changes to the above script, which did not help: * Unzip to "$HOME/.fonts" instead * Trying other symlinks in the fonts config.d: ( cd /etc/fonts/conf.d sudo rm -f 70-no-bitmaps.conf sudo ln -sf ../conf.avail/70-yes-bitmaps.conf ) (tried with both 'yes-bitmaps' and 'force-bitmaps') * fc-cache -r # "really" force cache re-creation To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/pango/+bug/1861340/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 1861340] Re: All bitmap fonts no longer visible after upgrade 19.10 -> Focal (development)
I'm speculating that pango 1.44 dropping support for bitmap fonts might be a cause: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/pango/issues/386 ** Package changed: fontconfig (Ubuntu) => pango1.0 (Ubuntu) ** Bug watch added: gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/pango/issues #386 https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/pango/issues/386 ** Description changed: For years I've installed a bitmap font for my terminals, but since I upgraded to Focal (development branch) today, it (and other bitmap fonts) no longer work. The font is 'Dina', from here: http://www.dcmembers.com/jibsen/download/61/?unapproved=504=f1abb9d89caafa881dcfc05cd32372e7 I have always installed it using a script: # install dina sudo mkdir -p /usr/share/fonts/Dina cd /usr/share/fonts/Dina sudo unzip ~/Downloads/Dina.zip # enable bitmap fonts sudo rm -f /etc/fonts/conf.d/70-no-bitmaps.conf # rebuild the cache fc-cache -f -v # Set as default mono font gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface monospace-font-name "Dina 8" This has always worked in the past, through many versions of Ubuntu, including 19.10. I installed Focal today, using `sudo do-release-upgrade -d`. Now the above script does not make Dina visible in font selectors such as that produced by the Tweaks / Fonts / [Monospace Text] button. Terminals that were previously configured to use that font now display the "box of hex digits" characters (what are they called?) - I cannot run 'gnome-font-viewer' to check things out, presumably due to some variant of: + ~~I cannot run 'gnome-font-viewer' to check things out, presumably due to some variant of: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-font-viewer/+bug/1375819 - (the window displays but immediately locks up.) + (the window displays but immediately locks up.)~~ + UPDATE: gnome-font-viewer runs fine today. All bitmap fonts are not present. While trying to find a fix, I tried a few changes to the above script, which did not help: * Unzip to "$HOME/.fonts" instead * Trying other symlinks in the fonts config.d: ( cd /etc/fonts/conf.d sudo rm -f 70-no-bitmaps.conf sudo ln -sf ../conf.avail/70-yes-bitmaps.conf ) (tried with both 'yes-bitmaps' and 'force-bitmaps') * fc-cache -r # "really" force cache re-creation ** Description changed: For years I've installed a bitmap font for my terminals, but since I upgraded to Focal (development branch) today, it (and other bitmap fonts) no longer work. The font is 'Dina', from here: http://www.dcmembers.com/jibsen/download/61/?unapproved=504=f1abb9d89caafa881dcfc05cd32372e7 I have always installed it using a script: # install dina sudo mkdir -p /usr/share/fonts/Dina cd /usr/share/fonts/Dina sudo unzip ~/Downloads/Dina.zip # enable bitmap fonts sudo rm -f /etc/fonts/conf.d/70-no-bitmaps.conf # rebuild the cache fc-cache -f -v # Set as default mono font gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface monospace-font-name "Dina 8" This has always worked in the past, through many versions of Ubuntu, including 19.10. I installed Focal today, using `sudo do-release-upgrade -d`. Now the above script does not make Dina visible in font selectors such as that produced by the Tweaks / Fonts / [Monospace Text] button. Terminals that were previously configured to use that font now display the "box of hex digits" characters (what are they called?) - ~~I cannot run 'gnome-font-viewer' to check things out, presumably due to some variant of: - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-font-viewer/+bug/1375819 - (the window displays but immediately locks up.)~~ - UPDATE: gnome-font-viewer runs fine today. All bitmap fonts are not present. + gnome-font-viewer does not list any of the installed bitmap fonts. While trying to find a fix, I tried a few changes to the above script, which did not help: * Unzip to "$HOME/.fonts" instead * Trying other symlinks in the fonts config.d: ( cd /etc/fonts/conf.d sudo rm -f 70-no-bitmaps.conf sudo ln -sf ../conf.avail/70-yes-bitmaps.conf ) (tried with both 'yes-bitmaps' and 'force-bitmaps') * fc-cache -r # "really" force cache re-creation -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to pango1.0 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1861340 Title: All bitmap fonts no longer visible after upgrade 19.10 -> Focal (development) Status in pango1.0 package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: For years I've installed a bitmap font for my terminals, but since I upgraded to Focal (development branch) today, it (and other bitmap fonts) no longer work. The font is 'Dina', from here:
[Touch-packages] [Bug 1861340] Re: All bitmap fonts no longer visible after upgrade 19.10 -> Focal (development)
I semi-guessed at package 'fontconfig' to associate. Advice welcome. ** Package changed: ubuntu => fontconfig (Ubuntu) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to fontconfig in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1861340 Title: All bitmap fonts no longer visible after upgrade 19.10 -> Focal (development) Status in fontconfig package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: For years I've installed a bitmap font for my terminals, but since I upgraded to Focal (development branch) today, it (and other bitmap fonts) no longer work. The font is 'Dina', from here: http://www.dcmembers.com/jibsen/download/61/?unapproved=504=f1abb9d89caafa881dcfc05cd32372e7 I have always installed it using a script: # install dina sudo mkdir -p /usr/share/fonts/Dina cd /usr/share/fonts/Dina sudo unzip ~/Downloads/Dina.zip # enable bitmap fonts sudo rm -f /etc/fonts/conf.d/70-no-bitmaps.conf # rebuild the cache fc-cache -f -v # Set as default mono font gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface monospace-font-name "Dina 8" This has always worked in the past, through many versions of Ubuntu, including 19.10. I installed Focal today, using `sudo do-release-upgrade -d`. Now the above script does not make Dina visible in font selectors such as that produced by the Tweaks / Fonts / [Monospace Text] button. Terminals that were previously configured to use that font now display the "box of hex digits" characters (what are they called?) I cannot run 'gnome-font-viewer' to check things out, presumably due to some variant of: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-font-viewer/+bug/1375819 (the window displays but immediately locks up.) While trying to find a fix, I tried a few changes to the above script, which did not help: * Unzip to "$HOME/.fonts" instead * Trying other symlinks in the fonts config.d: ( cd /etc/fonts/conf.d sudo rm -f 70-no-bitmaps.conf sudo ln -sf ../conf.avail/70-yes-bitmaps.conf ) (tried with both 'yes-bitmaps' and 'force-bitmaps') * fc-cache -r # "really" force cache re-creation To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fontconfig/+bug/1861340/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
