Re: [Trac] Share the Wisdom: What's better? Hosting trac on Windows or Linux?

2012-08-15 Thread W. Martin Borgert

Quoting ChiefEngr jwane...@gmail.com:

I'm thinking about rolling out somethng like Trac with SVN to handle
revision control (and whatever database engine is the best way to go).


SVN is OK, esp. when using the Tortoise GUI on Windows. Anyway in
the open source community most people use git nowadays, which is
much more powerful than SVN.


My question?  Well, should I host this server on a Windows box or a Linux
box?


For the end user, there is no difference at all. For the admin,
Linux is most likely the better choice than Windows, but YMMV.

As a Debian developer, I'm biased, but I would go for a Debian
server, or maybe for Ubuntu LTS.


Or, is Trac the wrong tool? Is Redmine or something else better?


Trac is just fine, but ask on the redmine list as well to get
a more balanced view.


So here is your chance -- someone is actually **asking** for your opinion!


You didn't ask, which database engine to use. I answer anyway:
Use PostgreSQL. SQLite gets slow on multiple users. You didn't
ask for the web server to use neither, but I suggest to use
Apache with mod_wsgi and the apache2-mpm-worker package.

Summary: Debian (or Ubuntu) Linux + Apache + WSGI + PostgreSQL
+ SVN (or git) + Trac, and you're fine.

Cheers

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Re: [Trac] Share the Wisdom: What's better? Hosting trac on Windows or Linux?

2012-08-15 Thread Eduard-Cristian Stefan

On 2012-08-15 12:33, W. Martin Borgert wrote:

Summary: Debian (or Ubuntu) Linux + Apache + WSGI + PostgreSQL
+ SVN (or git) + Trac, and you're fine.


Or Debian + nginx + uWSGI + PostgreSQL + git/mercurial + Trac,
at least it works on my PC.

Eduard

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[Trac] Re: Share the Wisdom: What's better? Hosting trac on Windows or Linux?

2012-08-15 Thread Craig A
Our team is doing all Windows development and we run Trac on Windows 2008 
R2 Apache + PostgreSQL (for our latest deployment we used the Bitnami 
installer with wsgi) + Subversion. We tried Mercurial and Git but found the 
polish and feature set did not fit us well. We are in a corporate setting 
and most of the advantages you see touted about DVCS [1] aren't so 
important in a corporate setting. Our server is always available, our users 
are in-house - the central model works well for us. 

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributed_revision_control

On Tuesday, August 14, 2012 2:58:21 PM UTC-5, ChiefEngr wrote:

 Hello Everyone,
  
 I'm hoping to pick your collective brain before I embark on this journey 
 and make all sorts of bad choices.  
   
 I'm thinking about rolling out somethng like Trac with SVN to handle 
 revision control (and whatever database engine is the best way to go). I 
 figure I'll also want Doxygen to plug in to this so we can take advantage 
 of what it brings to the table.



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Re: [Trac] Re: t-h.o down, but community not so much

2012-08-15 Thread Steffen Hoffmann
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Am 15.08.2012 00:42, schrieb RjOllos:
 Another item for thought ... potentially we should move th-users onto
 Google Groups in the future? 

Yes, definitely looking into alternatives.

But I'd value, if we'd not just rush for another group within the Google
domain. I feel uneasy with their privacy policy and already us Trac
mailing-list against my belief, that privacy matters much more than many
care for right now.

Are there other choices? Still I don't advocate moving to alternatives
at all costs, just for being 'not-Google'. It looks like a clever move
to strengthen competition in this area. Maybe it's just me, or not?

Sincerely,

Steffen Hoffmann
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Re: [Trac] Re: t-h.o down, but community not so much

2012-08-15 Thread RjOllos


On Wednesday, August 15, 2012 3:39:50 PM UTC-4, hasienda wrote:

 Are there other choices? Still I don't advocate moving to alternatives 
 at all costs, just for being 'not-Google'. It looks like a clever move 
 to strengthen competition in this area. Maybe it's just me, or not? 


I'm not sure about alternatives. I do think we should prefer mailing lists 
that don't require login to view. Whenever I try to access a Yahoo group 
I'm asked to login. I wouldn't have noticed for Google groups since I'm 
always logged in, but tested just now and it appears that the group is 
viewable without a login.

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Re: [Trac] Share the Wisdom: What's better? Hosting trac on Windows or Linux?

2012-08-15 Thread Rajagopal Swaminathan
Greetings,

On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 1:28 AM, ChiefEngr jwane...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello Everyone,

 I'm looking to set up a project tracking environment for a group of people
 who's primary desktop environment is Windows, but who are doing development
 under both WIndows and Linux systems. (To clarify, not a alot of
 cross-platform development going on here -- Windows based development is for
 Windows envrironments and Linux-based development is for Linux
 environments.) There's C(xx), Python, Perl, Java, and even MS Visual Studio
 work happening here.

 I'm thinking about rolling out somethng like Trac with SVN to handle
 revision control (and whatever database engine is the best way to go). I
 figure I'll also want Doxygen to plug in to this so we can take advantage of
 what it brings to the table.

 I'll probably want some kind of user-based access controls, but I'm not
 worried about having single login (although it would be very nice,
 especially from the WIndows side of things). We're not running a domain (AD,
 LDAP, et al).

 My question?  Well, should I host this server on a Windows box or a Linux
 box? Is one going to be more seamless for my users? Is one going to be more
 seamless (and more stable) for me to get going?  Which flavor of OS is more
 likely to work (on the Windows side - Windows Server (03, 08) vs a desktop
 Windows (XP, 7) [no Vista!];  on the Linux side - CentOS (5, 6), Fedora,
 Ubuntu)?

I had setup SVN+Trac on Centos 5 for about half a dozen sites with
full ACL. Yet to hear any issues. Couple of sites had 50+ devs, QA
etc. In one site they used SVN for everything -- even docs and
spreadsheets.

Mix of clients -- fedora, xp, ubuntu,  centos  et al.

In the process of setting up SVN+Trac on Centos 6 box may be this or next week.

HTH

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Regards,

Rajagopal

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