[Trac] Re: Logout

2009-04-07 Thread Emmanuel Blot

 Still: there should not be a logout button if not log out action is 
 available.
 Logout is sometimes possible by clicking logout and restarting the browser.

Sure, but this was not my point ;-)
(btw: A browser with a clear HTTP credential option is even better)

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[Trac] Re: Logout

2009-04-07 Thread Mihamina Rakotomandimby (R12y)

Emmanuel Blot wrote:
 That is why I think it is _NOT_ an issue. It's just the way HTTP is.
 Still: there should not be a logout button if not log out action is 
 available.

Logout is sometimes possible by clicking logout and restarting the browser.

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[Trac] Re: Logout

2009-04-06 Thread Olemis Lang

On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Steve Strobel skstro...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Apr 3, 12:43 pm, Mihamina Rakotomandimby miham...@lab.vectoris.fr
 wrote:
 John Hampton wrote:

 That is why I think it is _NOT_ an issue. It's just the way HTTP is.

 It was a real issue for me, just minutes ago.  I was working on
 someone else's computer and was unable to log into Trac as myself.


Oh ! I cant believe it !
Am I hearing what I'm hearing ?
:)

 Impractical workaround:  temporarily delete the password for the user
 that is logged on.  Restart Trac.  Log out and try to log back in.
 Trac will then prompt for the username/password again, allowing you to
 log in as a different user.  Restore the password.  Restart Trac.


Well, also closing the browser window should work ;)

 Better workaround (maybe could be done with a plugin):  when click
 logout, rather than staying on the current screen display a logout
 screen with the option to log in as a different user.  I don't know if
 implementing that is practical or not (I don't understand the way
 HTTP is well enough).


I'm in the process of writing something like that, but its not ready yet ... ;o)

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[Trac] Re: Logout

2009-04-04 Thread Ice Polar
Hi Ted,

I dont think so. Use the AccountManagerPlugin with all the very goog
features which goes further than just giving a function to that
'Logout'-Link.

You controle the access of anonymous-users (e.g. restrikt everything but
register). Users can register on the trac-side. The Administrator is
notified about such an event and can give some more rights.

What is the reason against that? i can't see any good reason to not use this
plugin except for using some ldap-authentication.

Ice


2009/4/4 Ted Gifford tedford...@gmail.com

 Why not remove the logout link when using HTTP Auth, i.e. by default?

 Probably would want to add an interface that plugins could implement when
 they do want to show the link, or some better idea from someone more
 cultured in the ways of Trac.

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[Trac] Re: Logout

2009-04-04 Thread Steve Strobel

On Apr 3, 12:43 pm, Mihamina Rakotomandimby miham...@lab.vectoris.fr
wrote:
 John Hampton wrote:
  Can you explain this?  Every other site that I have used that uses HTTP
  Auth via the browser has suffered from this problem.  Can you show me
  one that doesn't

 That is why I think it is _NOT_ an issue. It's just the way HTTP is.

It was a real issue for me, just minutes ago.  I was working on
someone else's computer and was unable to log into Trac as myself.

Impractical workaround:  temporarily delete the password for the user
that is logged on.  Restart Trac.  Log out and try to log back in.
Trac will then prompt for the username/password again, allowing you to
log in as a different user.  Restore the password.  Restart Trac.

Better workaround (maybe could be done with a plugin):  when click
logout, rather than staying on the current screen display a logout
screen with the option to log in as a different user.  I don't know if
implementing that is practical or not (I don't understand the way
HTTP is well enough).

Steve

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[Trac] Re: Logout

2009-04-04 Thread Ice Polar
Hi Steve,

it is much more simpler: Delete the Private Data in FireFox and there you go
an login as another user...
No need to delete someones password and restart trac over and over again.

If IE is used then go for deleting Cookies and thats all.

sincerely
  Ice



2009/4/3 Steve Strobel skstro...@gmail.com


 On Apr 3, 12:43 pm, Mihamina Rakotomandimby miham...@lab.vectoris.fr
 wrote:
  John Hampton wrote:
   Can you explain this?  Every other site that I have used that uses HTTP
   Auth via the browser has suffered from this problem.  Can you show me
   one that doesn't
 
  That is why I think it is _NOT_ an issue. It's just the way HTTP is.

 It was a real issue for me, just minutes ago.  I was working on
 someone else's computer and was unable to log into Trac as myself.

 Impractical workaround:  temporarily delete the password for the user
 that is logged on.  Restart Trac.  Log out and try to log back in.
 Trac will then prompt for the username/password again, allowing you to
 log in as a different user.  Restore the password.  Restart Trac.

 Better workaround (maybe could be done with a plugin):  when click
 logout, rather than staying on the current screen display a logout
 screen with the option to log in as a different user.  I don't know if
 implementing that is practical or not (I don't understand the way
 HTTP is well enough).

 Steve

 


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[Trac] Re: Logout

2009-04-04 Thread Ted Gifford
On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 6:47 AM, Ice Polar ice.po...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Ted,

 I dont think so. Use the AccountManagerPlugin with all the very goog
 features which goes further than just giving a function to that
 'Logout'-Link.


I guess I wasn't clear--I'm not arguing against using AccountManagerPlugin.
I'm saying remove the logout link for the people that _are_ using HTTP Auth.
In practice, the logout link does nothing for them.


 You controle the access of anonymous-users (e.g. restrikt everything but
 register). Users can register on the trac-side. The Administrator is
 notified about such an event and can give some more rights.

 What is the reason against that? i can't see any good reason to not use
 this plugin except for using some ldap-authentication.


Or maybe a legacy requirement to use HTTP Auth? It doesn't matter what the
reason is--people continue to have reasons to use it. But even for the case
of ldap, or any other custom authentication provider/plugin, they could show
the logout link, as I mentioned. One of the fundamentals of Trac seems to be
giving people choices, so perhaps logout link visibility should just be a
configurable parameter for HTTP Auth (i.e. the case when no other providers
are configured), which a default of hidden.

Ted

2009/4/4 Ted Gifford tedford...@gmail.com

 Why not remove the logout link when using HTTP Auth, i.e. by default?

 Probably would want to add an interface that plugins could implement when
 they do want to show the link, or some better idea from someone more
 cultured in the ways of Trac.

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[Trac] Re: Logout

2009-04-04 Thread John Hampton

Steve Strobel wrote:
 It was a real issue for me, just minutes ago.  I was working on
 someone else's computer and was unable to log into Trac as myself.
 
 Impractical workaround:  temporarily delete the password for the user
 that is logged on.  Restart Trac.  Log out and try to log back in.
 Trac will then prompt for the username/password again, allowing you to
 log in as a different user.  Restore the password.  Restart Trac.

Closing the browser and then restarting it would have worked.

-John

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[Trac] Re: Logout

2009-04-03 Thread Remy Blank
Andrew Gehring wrote:
 Clear your cache Junior...

Actually, he would have to clear his HTTP authentication cache, which is
often not quite obvious to do.

This is a long-standing issue that doesn't seem to have a proper
solution. See:

  http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/791

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[Trac] Re: Logout

2009-04-03 Thread Mihamina Rakotomandimby

Remy Blank wrote:
 This is a long-standing issue 

May we call this an issue?
It's just HTTP, that's all.

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[Trac] Re: Logout

2009-04-03 Thread Floriano Junior
I'm beginner, I do not know how to apply these patches ( .py,  .diff,
.patch) might indicate where he teaches me to install or even give a hint on
how to do this?

Thanks

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 Andrew Gehring wrote:
  Clear your cache Junior...

 Actually, he would have to clear his HTTP authentication cache, which is
 often not quite obvious to do.

 This is a long-standing issue that doesn't seem to have a proper
 solution. See:

  http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/791

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[Trac] Re: Logout

2009-04-03 Thread Olemis Lang

On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Floriano Junior
florianojun...@gmail.com wrote:
 When I click on logout, firefox or IE 7, it runs out but when you click
 Login again log it automatically without asking password. He log with last
 name entered in the system. How to fix it?


What the hell ... Yet Another Question About Trac Logout *ISSUE* ...

... and yes it is an issue since people expect to logout off the site,
and most of the time (... specially when using browsers with tabs ;)
dont want to | cant close the browser window ... Everybody else doing
it and we dont ... wel ... :-§

I think somebody will grant this issue the Trac ISSUE OF THE YEAR awards ...

Clearing the cache doesnt help, especially with MSIE ... I'm wondering
why ? Mainly because there is no std ... secondly because ... I
already talked about this ... not anymore ... :P

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[Trac] Re: Logout

2009-04-03 Thread John Hampton

Olemis Lang wrote:
 ... and yes it is an issue since people expect to logout off the site,
 and most of the time (... specially when using browsers with tabs ;)
 dont want to | cant close the browser window ... Everybody else doing
 it and we dont ... wel ... :-§

Can you explain this?  Every other site that I have used that uses HTTP
Auth via the browser has suffered from this problem.  Can you show me
one that doesn't

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[Trac] Re: Logout

2009-04-03 Thread Mihamina Rakotomandimby

John Hampton wrote:
 Can you explain this?  Every other site that I have used that uses HTTP
 Auth via the browser has suffered from this problem.  Can you show me
 one that doesn't

That is why I think it is _NOT_ an issue. It's just the way HTTP is.

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[Trac] Re: Logout

2009-04-03 Thread Jeff Hammel

I agree.  If people want real logout, IMHO they should use AccountManager and 
form-based auth.

Jeff

On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 09:43:35PM +0300, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
 
 John Hampton wrote:
  Can you explain this?  Every other site that I have used that uses HTTP
  Auth via the browser has suffered from this problem.  Can you show me
  one that doesn't
 
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[Trac] Re: Logout

2009-04-03 Thread Chris Mulligan
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Jeff Hammel jham...@openplans.org wrote:


 I agree.  If people want real logout, IMHO they should use AccountManager
 and form-based auth.

 Jeff

 On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 09:43:35PM +0300, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
 
  John Hampton wrote:
   Can you explain this?  Every other site that I have used that uses HTTP
   Auth via the browser has suffered from this problem.  Can you show me
   one that doesn't
 
  That is why I think it is _NOT_ an issue. It's just the way HTTP is.
 


I think this is why almost all sites do not use HTTP auth. It does not
deliver a good end user experience.

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[Trac] Re: Logout

2009-04-03 Thread zhang zhengquan

2009/4/3 Floriano Junior florianojun...@gmail.com:
 When I click on logout, firefox or IE 7, it runs out but when you click
 Login again log it automatically without asking password. He log with last
 name entered in the system. How to fix it?

 Thanks
 



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[Trac] Re: Logout

2009-04-03 Thread Olemis Lang

On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 2:31 PM, zhang zhengquan
zhang.zhengq...@gmail.com wrote:

 2009/4/3 Floriano Junior florianojun...@gmail.com:
 When I click on logout, firefox or IE 7, it runs out but when you click
 Login again log it automatically without asking password. He log with last
 name entered in the system. How to fix it?

 Thanks

 I thought I was the only one to have this.


Thousands of people ... indeed everybody installing and trying Trac
for the first time says that then comes here and ask the same question
(take a look at the archives ;) ... no to mention that AccountManager
is not part of trac core ... unless it is now ... I'm not very up to
date about that ... have you already incorporated that inside Trac
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[Trac] Re: Logout

2009-04-03 Thread Ice Polar
Hi there,

why bother with that http login/logout-stuff?

I use this Account Manager Plugin and have no Questions left:
 http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/AccountManagerPlugin

It just works as expected. The only issue could be that it is not in
trac-kernel but so what - install the Plugin and forget it.

I drive two separate 0.11.2 trac's and they both do very well.

Just my 2 cents,
lefthanded greetings
  Ice



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 On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 2:31 PM, zhang zhengquan
 zhang.zhengq...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  2009/4/3 Floriano Junior florianojun...@gmail.com:
  When I click on logout, firefox or IE 7, it runs out but when you click
  Login again log it automatically without asking password. He log with
 last
  name entered in the system. How to fix it?
 
  Thanks
 
  I thought I was the only one to have this.
 

 Thousands of people ... indeed everybody installing and trying Trac
 for the first time says that then comes here and ask the same question
 (take a look at the archives ;) ... no to mention that AccountManager
 is not part of trac core ... unless it is now ... I'm not very up to
 date about that ... have you already incorporated that inside Trac
 after PyCon '09 ... ?

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[Trac] Re: Logout

2009-04-03 Thread Ted Gifford
Why not remove the logout link when using HTTP Auth, i.e. by default?

Probably would want to add an interface that plugins could implement when
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[Trac] Re: Logout button not working

2009-03-16 Thread Olemis Lang

On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 12:02 AM, jan gestre plugger.l...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 3:50 AM, Emmanuel Blot manu.b...@gmail.com wrote:

  Any ideas?

 Yeah, it is extensively documented in Mailing List, tickets and Trac wiki

 Thanks for the heads up Manu, I guess I'm too tired to browse the mailing
 list :)

Well, there are actually a lot of «recent» threads about this ... is
this a sign of somethin'?

Almost everbody that tries Trac for the first time experiences this
kind of issues ... so at least I am already used to this kind of msgs
... ;)

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[Trac] Re: Logout button not working

2009-03-16 Thread Olemis Lang

On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 7:42 AM, Olemis Lang ole...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 12:02 AM, jan gestre plugger.l...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 3:50 AM, Emmanuel Blot manu.b...@gmail.com wrote:

  Any ideas?

 Yeah, it is extensively documented in Mailing List, tickets and Trac wiki

 Thanks for the heads up Manu, I guess I'm too tired to browse the mailing
 list :)

 Well, there are actually a lot of «recent» threads about this ... is
 this a sign of somethin'?

 Almost everbody that tries Trac for the first time experiences this
 kind of issues ... so at least I am already used to this kind of msgs
 ... ;)

 The solution seems to b AccountManager + form-based auth


... but still you may find some issues in MSIE ... however as Jon S.
von Tetzchner, PDG d'Opera Software points out [1]_

«Nous voulons que Microsoft tienne sa promesse et adopte finalement
les standards du web.»

... no further comments ... preparing to hibernate ...

.. [1] Opera Software : « le web doit être ouvert pour tous »
 (http://www.neteco.com/264184-opera-software-web-ouvert-tetzchner.html)

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[Trac] Re: Logout button not working

2009-03-14 Thread Emmanuel Blot

 Any ideas?

Yeah, it is extensively documented in Mailing List, tickets and Trac wiki:
HTTP-based authentication does *not* allow to log out. There's nothing
Trac can do about it, except avoid HTTP authentication altogether.
You either need to use an alternative authentication system (such as
the ones provided with the AccountManagerPlugin), or use a browser
that can clear out the HTTP credentials, or close and re-open your
browser.

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[Trac] Re: Logout button not working

2009-03-14 Thread jan gestre
On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 3:50 AM, Emmanuel Blot manu.b...@gmail.com wrote:


  Any ideas?

 Yeah, it is extensively documented in Mailing List, tickets and Trac wiki:
 HTTP-based authentication does *not* allow to log out. There's nothing
 Trac can do about it, except avoid HTTP authentication altogether.
 You either need to use an alternative authentication system (such as
 the ones provided with the AccountManagerPlugin), or use a browser
 that can clear out the HTTP credentials, or close and re-open your
 browser.

 Cheers,
 Manu


Thanks for the heads up Manu, I guess I'm too tired to browse the mailing
list :)

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[Trac] Re: logout problem

2009-02-19 Thread Olemis Lang

On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 1:56 AM, Jani Tiainen rede...@gmail.com wrote:
 Olemis Lang kirjoitti:
 On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Erik Bray hyugaricd...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Yunior Armando Hernandez Andrade
 yahernan...@estudiantes.uci.cu wrote:

 PD: «the dozens of other posts on that topic.» only point out to the
 fact that users want to logout off Trac site (e.g. switch to other
 user ...) and also that this is a very important feature, so ... give
 users what they want ... ;)

 You can't do that with HTTP auth. quote from
 http://www.w3.org/TR/NOTE-authentform

[...]

 So, you can't really logout with HTTP authentication, would it be basic
 or digest.

[...]

+0.5 ... «human beings have ontological memory in praxis» ... and yes
I know you are right, there is no *standard* way of doing that ... ;)

 There exists few error code tricks that can some times work, but they
 are not guaranteed to work with different browsers.


... recently I attended a conference where the Chairman of ISO JTC 1
mentioned different types of standards ... there exist industry
standards, national standards, international standards ... and «de
facto» standards ... so if a compatibility matrix reveals that
everybody is doing it ... «so why cant we» ? ... ;)

In fact they are not guaranteed to work with MSIE ... but I am not
pretty sure about whether it is a browser or not :P ... IMO it should
have completely disappeared since long time ago ... and MS insists in
being incompatible with multiples stds (does it contribute to HTML 5 ?
... and so on ...)

The way I see it ... «if a compatibility matrix reveals that everybody
is doing it» except MSIE ;) ... then I'd be very satisfied ... And for
MSIE, well I'd recommend one of three things:

- Use «a serious» browser ... (e.g. Opera, Mozilla, G Chrome, ...)

- Contact MS so that they release MSIE source code, so that we can
«fix» it ... ;)

Most of this is IMO ...

PD: ... sorry if most of this is also OT ... and yes, I know, MSIE is
the browser people use the most ... today ... ;)

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[Trac] Re: logout problem

2009-02-19 Thread Olemis Lang

On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Olemis Lang ole...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 1:56 AM, Jani Tiainen rede...@gmail.com wrote:
 Olemis Lang kirjoitti:
 On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Erik Bray hyugaricd...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Yunior Armando Hernandez Andrade
 yahernan...@estudiantes.uci.cu wrote:

 ... recently I attended a conference where the Chairman of ISO JTC 1

JFYI ... I was talking about :

Dr. François Coallier
President of ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC7 – Software and Systems Engineering,
École Technique Supérieure, ETS, Canada ... ;)


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[Trac] Re: logout problem

2009-02-19 Thread Noah Kantrowitz


On Feb 19, 2009, at 5:44 AM, Olemis Lang wrote:


 On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 1:56 AM, Jani Tiainen rede...@gmail.com  
 wrote:
 Olemis Lang kirjoitti:
 On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Erik Bray  
 hyugaricd...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Yunior Armando Hernandez Andrade
 yahernan...@estudiantes.uci.cu wrote:

 PD: «the dozens of other posts on that topic.» only point out to the
 fact that users want to logout off Trac site (e.g. switch to other
 user ...) and also that this is a very important feature, so ...  
 give
 users what they want ... ;)

 You can't do that with HTTP auth. quote from
 http://www.w3.org/TR/NOTE-authentform

 [...]

 So, you can't really logout with HTTP authentication, would it be  
 basic
 or digest.

 [...]

 +0.5 ... «human beings have ontological memory in praxis» ... and yes
 I know you are right, there is no *standard* way of doing that ... ;)

 There exists few error code tricks that can some times work, but they
 are not guaranteed to work with different browsers.


 ... recently I attended a conference where the Chairman of ISO JTC 1
 mentioned different types of standards ... there exist industry
 standards, national standards, international standards ... and «de
 facto» standards ... so if a compatibility matrix reveals that
 everybody is doing it ... «so why cant we» ? ... ;)

 In fact they are not guaranteed to work with MSIE ... but I am not
 pretty sure about whether it is a browser or not :P ... IMO it should
 have completely disappeared since long time ago ... and MS insists in
 being incompatible with multiples stds (does it contribute to HTML 5 ?
 ... and so on ...)

 The way I see it ... «if a compatibility matrix reveals that everybody
 is doing it» except MSIE ;) ... then I'd be very satisfied ... And for
 MSIE, well I'd recommend one of three things:

 - Use «a serious» browser ... (e.g. Opera, Mozilla, G Chrome, ...)

 - Contact MS so that they release MSIE source code, so that we can
 «fix» it ... ;)

 Most of this is IMO ...

 PD: ... sorry if most of this is also OT ... and yes, I know, MSIE is
 the browser people use the most ... today ... ;)


This email annoyed me, so I am going out of my way to call you on  
this. There has been a patch on trac-hacks for almost 2 years now  
showing how to setup HTTP auth logout, and we have pretty unilaterally  
agreed to not add it to Trac core because it isn't supportable in any  
useful way. This applies to all browsers, so you can please take the  
IE bashing elsewhere. There is no vaguely standardized way to do HTTP  
auth invalidation cleanly, trust me. Heck, there isn't even a non- 
standard way to do is cleanly in most cases.

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[Trac] Re: logout problem

2009-02-18 Thread Erik Bray

On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 11:05 AM, eri x ermalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi, i istalled Account manager plugin but i have 2 problems.
 1)I changed the httpd.conf and trac.ini to avoid apache login and to use
 track login but apache continue to did the login and i don't know what to do
 in trac.ini i put in components this  trac.web.auth.LoginModule=disabled
 and in apache i have this config
 Location /trac/tesi
SetHandler mod_python
PythonHandler trac.web.modpython_frontend
PythonOption TracLocale it_IT.UTF-8
PythonOption TracEnv /home/svntest01/TRAC/tesi
PythonOption TracUriRoot /trac/tesi
#AuthType Basic
#AuthName Tesi
#AuthUserFile /home/svntest01/TRAC/trac.htpasswd
#Require valid-user
 /Location
 2)i can't do dhe logout from the track menu, when i click on the tab nothing
 happens

Do you have AccountManager otherwise set up correctly?  Does the
form-based login work?  Did you remember to set
acct_mgr.web_ui.LoginModule = enabled?

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[Trac] Re: logout problem

2009-02-18 Thread Yunior Armando Hernandez Andrade
I got this same problem in trac but without any plug-in , don't know why when I 
set the authentication to be tested when accessing trac's location then I 
could't logout. I solved by moving the authentication part to the location of 
the login page in trac and all solved.

In your example I would do this way:

Location /trac/tesi 
 SetHandler mod_python
 PythonHandler trac.web.modpython_frontend
 PythonOption TracLocale it_IT.UTF-8
 PythonOption TracEnv /home/svntest01/TRAC/tesi
 PythonOption TracUriRoot /trac/tesi
/Location

LocationMatch /trac/tesi/[^/]+/login
 AuthType Basic
 AuthName Tesi
 AuthUserFile /home/svntest01/TRAC/trac.htpasswd
 Require valid-user
/LocationMatch


-Mensaje original-
De: trac-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:trac-us...@googlegroups.com] En nombre 
de Erik Bray
Enviado el: miércoles, 18 de febrero de 2009 10:52
Para: trac-users@googlegroups.com
Asunto: [Trac] Re: logout problem


On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 11:05 AM, eri x ermalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi, i istalled Account manager plugin but i have 2 problems.
 1)I changed the httpd.conf and trac.ini to avoid apache login and to use
 track login but apache continue to did the login and i don't know what to do
 in trac.ini i put in components this  trac.web.auth.LoginModule=disabled
 and in apache i have this config
 Location /trac/tesi
SetHandler mod_python
PythonHandler trac.web.modpython_frontend
PythonOption TracLocale it_IT.UTF-8
PythonOption TracEnv /home/svntest01/TRAC/tesi
PythonOption TracUriRoot /trac/tesi
#AuthType Basic
#AuthName Tesi
#AuthUserFile /home/svntest01/TRAC/trac.htpasswd
#Require valid-user
 /Location
 2)i can't do dhe logout from the track menu, when i click on the tab nothing
 happens

Do you have AccountManager otherwise set up correctly?  Does the
form-based login work?  Did you remember to set
acct_mgr.web_ui.LoginModule = enabled?



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[Trac] Re: logout problem

2009-02-18 Thread Erik Bray

On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Yunior Armando Hernandez Andrade
yahernan...@estudiantes.uci.cu wrote:
 I got this same problem in trac but without any plug-in , don't know why when 
 I set the authentication to be tested when accessing trac's location then I 
 could't logout. I solved by moving the authentication part to the location of 
 the login page in trac and all solved.

You couldn't log out because HTTP authentication has no notion of
logging out.  You can search this mailing list for the dozens of other
posts on that topic.

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[Trac] Re: logout problem

2009-02-18 Thread Olemis Lang

On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Erik Bray hyugaricd...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Yunior Armando Hernandez Andrade
 yahernan...@estudiantes.uci.cu wrote:
 I got this same problem in trac but without any plug-in , don't know why 
 when I set the authentication to be tested when accessing trac's location 
 then I could't logout. I solved by moving the authentication part to the 
 location of the login page in trac and all solved.

 You couldn't log out because HTTP authentication has no notion of
 logging out.  You can search this mailing list for the dozens of other
 posts on that topic.


Or alternately ... you could wait a little until the next release (...
hopefully soon ... :) of the log out modules I am working on (nowadays
testing Digest Auth ...)

PD: «the dozens of other posts on that topic.» only point out to the
fact that users want to logout off Trac site (e.g. switch to other
user ...) and also that this is a very important feature, so ... give
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[Trac] Re: logout problem

2009-02-18 Thread Jani Tiainen

Olemis Lang kirjoitti:
 On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Erik Bray hyugaricd...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Yunior Armando Hernandez Andrade
 yahernan...@estudiantes.uci.cu wrote:
 I got this same problem in trac but without any plug-in , don't know why 
 when I set the authentication to be tested when accessing trac's location 
 then I could't logout. I solved by moving the authentication part to the 
 location of the login page in trac and all solved.
 You couldn't log out because HTTP authentication has no notion of
 logging out.  You can search this mailing list for the dozens of other
 posts on that topic.

 
 Or alternately ... you could wait a little until the next release (...
 hopefully soon ... :) of the log out modules I am working on (nowadays
 testing Digest Auth ...)
 
 PD: «the dozens of other posts on that topic.» only point out to the
 fact that users want to logout off Trac site (e.g. switch to other
 user ...) and also that this is a very important feature, so ... give
 users what they want ... ;)

You can't do that with HTTP auth. quote from 
http://www.w3.org/TR/NOTE-authentform

HTTP Authentication has the addition problem that there is no mechanism 
available to the server to cause the browser to 'logout'; that is, to 
discard its stored credentials for the user.


And using digest doesn't resolve problem as on very same article:

As a part of the development of HTTP/1.1, a new scheme for passing 
authentication information, called 'Digest', has been developed. Digest 
authentication can mutually authenticate the user and server without 
passing the actual credentials on the network in a way usable by an 
attacker (the details are beyond the scope of this note; see [2]). This 
overcomes the worst security weakness of HTTP authentication and makes 
it possible to meet the guidelines for an Internet Standard protocol, 
but does not help with its poor user interface nor the problem of 
discarding credentials that are no longer needed.

So, you can't really logout with HTTP authentication, would it be basic 
or digest.

There exists few error code tricks that can some times work, but they 
are not guaranteed to work with different browsers.

-- 
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[Trac] Re: logout

2008-05-14 Thread Dominik Riva

Am 14.05.2008 um 16:42 schrieb Noah Kantrowitz:

 Dominik Riva wrote:
 Hi
 I can't logout of Trac 0.11b1, better yet I should not even be  
 logged  in!
 The whole trac (multi projects) runs in one wsgi instance that is   
 protected by a .htpasswd file.  One project I changed to use the   
 AccountManagerPlugin 0.2dev-r3111 (disabled  
 trac.web.auth.loginmodule)  but this enables only the  
 administration of the .htpasswd file, as the  user is still logged  
 in only by authentication with the server :(

 You also need to remove the authentication config from your server.

 --Noah

Not possible as it needs to be a secret on what projects we are  
working or does the AccountManagerPlugin protect the project listing?

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[Trac] Re: logout

2008-05-14 Thread Noah Kantrowitz

Dominik Riva wrote:

Am 14.05.2008 um 16:42 schrieb Noah Kantrowitz:


Dominik Riva wrote:

Hi
I can't logout of Trac 0.11b1, better yet I should not even be  
logged  in!
The whole trac (multi projects) runs in one wsgi instance that is   
protected by a .htpasswd file.  One project I changed to use the   
AccountManagerPlugin 0.2dev-r3111 (disabled  
trac.web.auth.loginmodule)  but this enables only the  
administration of the .htpasswd file, as the  user is still logged  
in only by authentication with the server :(

You also need to remove the authentication config from your server.

--Noah


Not possible as it needs to be a secret on what projects we are  
working or does the AccountManagerPlugin protect the project listing?


Then you are still using HTTP authentication, and therefore have no 
logout ability. You can look into using TracForge, as its enhanced 
project listing page supports hiding projects based on permissions.


--Noah




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[Trac] Re: logout

2008-05-14 Thread Dominik Riva

Am 14.05.2008 um 17:00 schrieb Noah Kantrowitz:

 Then you are still using HTTP authentication, and therefore have no  
 logout ability. You can look into using TracForge, as its enhanced  
 project listing page supports hiding projects based on permissions.

 --Noah


So trac.web.auth.loginmodule is as useful as an vermiform appendix or  
do I miss some thing?

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[Trac] Re: logout

2008-05-14 Thread Noah Kantrowitz

Dominik Riva wrote:

Am 14.05.2008 um 17:00 schrieb Noah Kantrowitz:
Then you are still using HTTP authentication, and therefore have no  
logout ability. You can look into using TracForge, as its enhanced  
project listing page supports hiding projects based on permissions.


--Noah



So trac.web.auth.loginmodule is as useful as an vermiform appendix or  
do I miss some thing?


LoginModule is what grants you a session cookie based on the value of 
REMOTE_USER. If in future requests REMOTE_USER isn't set, the session 
cookie can provide the username. You have authentication enforced 
everywhere, not just /login, so REMOTE_USER will always be available, 
and the session cookies are superfluous. AccountManager's form-based 
LoginModule inherits from the core one, and so follows the same 
behavior. If REMOTE_USER is set, it will always be used before anything 
else.


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[Trac] Re: logout

2008-05-14 Thread Dominik Riva

Am 14.05.2008 um 17:40 schrieb Noah Kantrowitz:

 Dominik Riva wrote:
 Am 14.05.2008 um 17:00 schrieb Noah Kantrowitz:
 Then you are still using HTTP authentication, and therefore have  
 no  logout ability. You can look into using TracForge, as its  
 enhanced  project listing page supports hiding projects based on  
 permissions.

 --Noah
 So trac.web.auth.loginmodule is as useful as an vermiform appendix  
 or  do I miss some thing?

 LoginModule is what grants you a session cookie based on the value  
 of REMOTE_USER. If in future requests REMOTE_USER isn't set, the  
 session cookie can provide the username. You have authentication  
 enforced everywhere, not just /login, so REMOTE_USER will always be  
 available, and the session cookies are superfluous. AccountManager's  
 form-based LoginModule inherits from the core one, and so follows  
 the same behavior. If REMOTE_USER is set, it will always be used  
 before anything else.

 --Noah


Thank you for the explanation. How stable is this TracForge?

I don't want to risk any thing on this Trac beta on OS X 10.4 Client -  
needs a reboot to find plugins - needed a week of fiddling before it  
worked -  system in production (don't ask).

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[Trac] Re: logout

2008-05-14 Thread Noah Kantrowitz

Dominik Riva wrote:

Am 14.05.2008 um 17:40 schrieb Noah Kantrowitz:


Dominik Riva wrote:

Am 14.05.2008 um 17:00 schrieb Noah Kantrowitz:
Then you are still using HTTP authentication, and therefore have  
no  logout ability. You can look into using TracForge, as its  
enhanced  project listing page supports hiding projects based on  
permissions.


--Noah
So trac.web.auth.loginmodule is as useful as an vermiform appendix  
or  do I miss some thing?
LoginModule is what grants you a session cookie based on the value  
of REMOTE_USER. If in future requests REMOTE_USER isn't set, the  
session cookie can provide the username. You have authentication  
enforced everywhere, not just /login, so REMOTE_USER will always be  
available, and the session cookies are superfluous. AccountManager's  
form-based LoginModule inherits from the core one, and so follows  
the same behavior. If REMOTE_USER is set, it will always be used  
before anything else.


--Noah



Thank you for the explanation. How stable is this TracForge?

I don't want to risk any thing on this Trac beta on OS X 10.4 Client -  
needs a reboot to find plugins - needed a week of fiddling before it  
worked -  system in production (don't ask).


It is not considered production-ready for 0.11. That particular feature 
works fine, however others have issues and there is no documentation for 
the 0.11 branch yet.


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[Trac] Re: logout then trying to login with a new still shows the old user logged in - can't I log out?

2007-11-09 Thread softwaretest1

Manu - Thanks, I'll check out the discussion in the ML archive --- also will 
check out the AccountManagerPlugin.



Thanks a bunch.



M.


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Subject: [Trac] Re: logout then trying to login with a new still shows the old 
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  So the question is -- how do I log out? I am running Trac standalone/server
 tracd currently.

Either close your web browser (that is ALL your browser windows), use
a browser with 'Clear HTTP authentication' menu such as Firefox, or
install the AccountManagerPlugin.

The way HTTP authentication works prevent the browser from logging
out, there's nothing that can be done at Trac level as long as HTTP
authentication is used.

You can find details in the ML archive, this is one of the most
discussed topic ;-)

HTH,
Manu





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[Trac] Re: logout then trying to login with a new still shows the old user logged in - can't I log out?

2007-11-09 Thread Emmanuel Blot

  So the question is -- how do I log out? I am running Trac standalone/server
 tracd currently.

Either close your web browser (that is ALL your browser windows), use
a browser with 'Clear HTTP authentication' menu such as Firefox, or
install the AccountManagerPlugin.

The way HTTP authentication works prevent the browser from logging
out, there's nothing that can be done at Trac level as long as HTTP
authentication is used.

You can find details in the ML archive, this is one of the most
discussed topic ;-)

HTH,
Manu

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[Trac] Re: Logout Problem

2007-10-09 Thread netizens




 Chances are you are using HTTP authentication. Browsers cache HTTP auth
 credentials for as long as the browser is open.

yes i m using http authentication with some certificate.

 If you mistakenly have authentication forced on / instead of /login, this 
 results in never
 being able to log out.

i didn't understatnd,

 For true logout, look at the AccountManager plugin.


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[Trac] Re: Logout Problem

2007-10-09 Thread Rainer Sokoll

On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 11:54:33PM -0700, netizens wrote:

  If you mistakenly have authentication forced on / instead of /login, this 
  results in never
  being able to log out.
 
 i didn't understatnd,

See http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/791

Rainer

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[Trac] Re: Logout Problem

2007-10-08 Thread Noah Kantrowitz
Chances are you are using HTTP authentication. Browsers cache HTTP auth
credentials for as long as the browser is open. If you mistakenly have
authentication forced on / instead of /login, this results in never
being able to log out. For true logout, look at the AccountManager plugin.

--Noah

netizens wrote:
 Hai Members,

 I m new to the trac,
 I m having the issue, i cann't logout from trac, after clik the logout
 i m always inside the trac.

 any one can help me

 Regards
 Vijaya Chandran.M


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[Trac] Re: logout

2007-09-19 Thread Pim Bliek

You see that cute little links at the bottom of every message on the  
group??


On 19-sep-2007, at 21:35, Jesus wrote:


 Mister Trac-User Admin,

 I'm getting crazy 'cause i've loged me in your group - i just want to
 get information about trac- and now i get 20 or 30 email everyday. I
 want to log me out, but i don't find it which it's the way to do it.
 Please, help me before i take the decision to change me email.


 Thank you


 



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[Trac] Re: logout

2007-09-19 Thread Yee, Patty (Patty)

 I am trying to unsubscribe to Trac Users group too 


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-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 3:35 PM
To: trac-users@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Trac] logout


Mister Trac-User Admin, 

I'm getting crazy 'cause i've loged me in your group - i just want to
get information about trac- and now i get 20 or 30 email everyday. I
want to log me out, but i don't find it which it's the way to do it. 
Please, help me before i take the decision to change me email. 


Thank you 



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[Trac] Re: logout

2007-09-19 Thread Maggie Kathwaroon

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-Original Message-
From: trac-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Jesus
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 3:35 PM
To: trac-users@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Trac] logout



Mister Trac-User Admin, 

I'm getting crazy 'cause i've loged me in your group - i just want to
get information about trac- and now i get 20 or 30 email everyday. I
want to log me out, but i don't find it which it's the way to do it. 
Please, help me before i take the decision to change me email. 


Thank you 





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[Trac] Re: Logout button does nothing

2006-09-28 Thread Emmanuel Blot

 This is a known problem. To really logout, you'll need to close the
 browser.

... or a browser (or an extension) that offers an option to clear out
http authentication data.
Firefox does, for example.

Another option is to use an alternative way to authenticate (a Trac plugin).

Cheers,
Manu

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[Trac] Re: Logout button does nothing

2006-09-27 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves


On 28-Sep-06, at 7:04 AM, Steve Pole wrote:

 when a user is logged into Trac and hits the 'Logout' button,  
 nothing happens, the user just stays logged in.

works for me


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[Trac] Re: Logout button does nothing

2006-09-27 Thread Alistair Campbell

This issue is due to the browser caching authentication information on
the behalf of the user. Unless the mechanism has been changed in more
recent versions of trac, I'd imagine this is still the case.

On 28/09/06, Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On 28-Sep-06, at 7:04 AM, Steve Pole wrote:

  when a user is logged into Trac and hits the 'Logout' button,
  nothing happens, the user just stays logged in.

 works for me


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[Trac] Re: Logout button does nothing

2006-09-27 Thread Sid Wiesner

Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
 On 28-Sep-06, at 7:04 AM, Steve Pole wrote:
 
 when a user is logged into Trac and hits the 'Logout' button,  
 nothing happens, the user just stays logged in.
 
 works for me

This is a known problem. To really logout, you'll need to close the 
browser.

The Trac roadmap currently lists the fix for this as happening in the 
0.12 release.

Sid

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[Trac] Re: Logout button does nothing

2006-09-27 Thread Sid Wiesner

z00m1n wrote:
 If this is a known problem, why couldn't I find anything in this group
 searching for 'log out', logout ? What resources should I tap in the
 future before asking here ?

This list was just recently moved to googlegroups, so the archives on 
google only go back 1 month. If you want to access the archives from 
the previous list address, try searching here:

http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.subversion.trac.general

Sid


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[Trac] Re: Logout button does nothing

2006-09-27 Thread Brad Anderson

John Hampton wrote:
 Sid Wiesner wrote:
 Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
 On 28-Sep-06, at 7:04 AM, Steve Pole wrote:

 when a user is logged into Trac and hits the 'Logout' button,  
 nothing happens, the user just stays logged in.
 works for me
 This is a known problem. To really logout, you'll need to close the 
 browser.

 The Trac roadmap currently lists the fix for this as happening in the 
 0.12 release.
 
 FYI, of one uses the AccountManager plugin from trac-hacks.org and uses 
 it's form based login, then logout works just fine.

Ditto with DbAuthPlugin

BA

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