[Trac] Re: TracHacks will be down until August 27th

2012-09-04 Thread Iain Argent
Looks like it is back up, but I'm not sure if it is fully restored yet. I 
was checking for the latest colormacro:

http://trac-hacks.org/svn/colormacro/0.12/Color.py


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Re: [Trac] Re: TracHacks will be down until August 27th

2012-09-04 Thread Steffen Hoffmann
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On 04.09.2012 17:19, Iain Argent wrote:
 Looks like it is back up, but I'm not sure if it is fully restored yet.
 I was checking for the latest colormacro:
 
 http://trac-hacks.org/svn/colormacro/0.12/Color.py

Yes, why not? Should be fine now. There was an issue with services,
never with the data.

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RE: [Trac] Re: TracHacks will be down until August 27th

2012-08-31 Thread Cooke, Mark
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 From: trac-users@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of osimons
 Sent: 31 August 2012 01:58
 To: trac-users@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [Trac] Re: TracHacks will be down until August 27th
 
snip
 
 However; to add to the possible options for Trac-Hacks, I 
 would like to propose moving it to the Edgewall 
 infrastructure. There we can manage it in much the same way 
 as we do for the other projects - including Trac, Genshi and 
 Babel. Current maintainers are welcome to continue their 
 efforts there, but will additionally be able to also utilize 
 others if needed.
 
snip

That makes a lot of sense to me.  Great though the other offers are, to have 
both t.e.o and t-h.o co-hosted seems close to ideal.  Not that my vote counts 
for much but +1 from me.

Regards,

~ mark c

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[Trac] Re: TracHacks will be down until August 27th

2012-08-30 Thread osimons

On Tuesday, August 14, 2012 2:43:36 PM UTC+2, RjOllos wrote:

 A few of us had a brief email exchange with the trac-hacks server admin 
 about the site being down. He is currently on vacation and can't do 
 anything to bring the server online until August 27th when he'll be able to 
 get onsite and fix the issue.
 At that point, we'll be discussing what can be done in the future to avoid 
 a situation like this again. I'm not sure if that might include alernative 
 hosting for trac-hacks.


Server/service downtime is just an unavoidable aspect og hosting, and no 
doubt there will be pros and cons regardless of what we do. No guarantees. 
Mike  helpers have done a terrific job keeping it running for many years, 
but ironically that change was also partly due to an extended blackout 
during a personal holiday... Hardware, networks, software, companies and 
people cannot always work. Particularly remembering that everything around 
Trac is based on voluntary labour and run on shoestring budgets.

However; to add to the possible options for Trac-Hacks, I would like to 
propose moving it to the Edgewall infrastructure. There we can manage it in 
much the same way as we do for the other projects - including Trac, Genshi 
and Babel. Current maintainers are welcome to continue their efforts there, 
but will additionally be able to also utilize others if needed.

I have had a brief initial exchange with Jonas, Christian and Remy about 
this, and they are all positive to the idea of bringing the Hacks/Plugins 
site closer to the Trac project itself. Plugins are important for nearly 
all Trac installations, and judging by the level of plugin-related tickets 
and mailing list discussions it is quite clear that most users regard it as 
two sides of the same coin. Keeping the projects closer together, we as 
developers are more likely to remember this as well.

Additionally Trac-Hacks poses some interesting challenges and possibilities 
with regards to its extensive multiproject/multiproject aspects, so perhaps 
this will also be a great opportunity to re-think and improve some of the 
site features - hopefully done by improving Trac itself whenever feasible. 
I know this thought process is started already, so I look forward to 
reading though these ideas again - as soon as the wiki is back up again ;-) 



:::simon


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[Trac] Re: TracHacks will be down until August 27th

2012-08-30 Thread RjOllos
On Thursday, August 30, 2012 5:58:28 PM UTC-7, osimons wrote:

 Server/service downtime is just an unavoidable aspect og hosting, and no 
 doubt there will be pros and cons regardless of what we do. No guarantees. 
 Mike  helpers have done a terrific job keeping it running for many years, 
 but ironically that change was also partly due to an extended blackout 
 during a personal holiday... Hardware, networks, software, companies and 
 people cannot always work. Particularly remembering that everything around 
 Trac is based on voluntary labour and run on shoestring budgets.


I hope I am just reading too much into your post and you didn't take what I 
said as criticism of Mike or any other volunteer. I was just passing along 
what Mike said to me over email: Once this issue is solved, we should 
(virtually) get together and consider which options exist to prevent 
something like this to happen again.

Certainly, weeks of downtime is avoidable, and that seems to be everyone's 
intent. As you suggest, we have the possibility to spread the 
administration work across multiple people, and pass the infrastructure 
burden onto others. We have 4 offers to host trac-hacks and free Mike from 
the mundane work of maintaining and fixing server hardware, so shoestring 
budgets doesn't seem to be a limiting factor in getting reliable hosting 
for trac-hacks in the future.

I just hope we can make a decision soon about which offer we will take to 
host trac-hacks. I'm eager to help as much as I can and get trac-hacks 
upgraded to 1.0.

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