Re: [Trac] Trac Versioned Documents

2010-08-13 Thread Manuel Jesús Recena Soto
Hi Ryan,

We use this plugin in our software ecosystem [1].
You have some screenshots available [2]. We tested the plugin with Alfresco.

This plugin can be used by non-software engineers. ;)

Regards,

[1] http://clinker.klicap.es/projects/clinker
[2] http://www.flickr.com/photos/klicap/sets/72157624100604196

2010/8/13 Ryan J Ollos ry...@physiosonics.com:


 Manuel Jesús Recena Soto-2 wrote:

 Hi Mathew:

 Maybe CMIS Trac Plugin [1] can help you.
 If you need community support, you can visit our platform support [2].


 This plugin looks very interesting. If anyone has experience using any of
 the CIMS compliant platforms, I'd really like to hear your experiences.

 We currently keep our docs in SVN because the non-software engineers don't
 like working on the wiki. However, using SVN proves to be very difficult for
 non-software engineers and problems / questions eat up time I should spend
 developing, so I'm always looking for a better solution for versioned
 document storage and sharing.
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Re: [Trac] Trac Versioned Documents

2010-08-12 Thread Ryan J Ollos


Manuel Jesús Recena Soto-2 wrote:
 
 Hi Mathew:
 
 Maybe CMIS Trac Plugin [1] can help you.
 If you need community support, you can visit our platform support [2].
 

This plugin looks very interesting. If anyone has experience using any of
the CIMS compliant platforms, I'd really like to hear your experiences.

We currently keep our docs in SVN because the non-software engineers don't
like working on the wiki. However, using SVN proves to be very difficult for
non-software engineers and problems / questions eat up time I should spend
developing, so I'm always looking for a better solution for versioned
document storage and sharing.
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Re: [Trac] Trac Versioned Documents

2010-08-11 Thread Olemis Lang
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 11:51 AM, W. Martin Borgert deba...@debian.org wrote:
 Quoting Clemens Feige c.fe...@osypkamed.com:

 Why don't you put those documents under SVN (sub-version) version control
 instead of attachhing them to the wiki page. There is a wiki command for
 linking to SVN controlled files.

 This is the way to go, indeed.

Recently I've tried some other approaches . In my case many documents
(e.g. use cases , specs , ...) were stored in an MS VSS repository
(which lead many problems , PITAs ...) . Someone migrated those
documents to the wiki (some are just WikiFormatting , some others have
embedded LaTeX statements) . We use built-in WikiSystem version
tracking . I implemented TracBasicMacros plugin to embed
auto-magically information and wiki history in those pages. Finally we
deployed TracWikiPrint to download those files in PDF format as well
as two other plugin to download them in LaTeX , ODF,  DOC format .

This way collaborative as well as private edits are possible (which
was a req for dev teams ;o) . We also use Graphviz , FreeMind , and
other plugins . In all cases the pages are rendered OK . Surely there
are many more things to improve, with time they will come ;o).

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Re: [Trac] Trac Versioned Documents

2010-08-10 Thread Manuel Jesús Recena Soto
Hi Mathew:

Maybe CMIS Trac Plugin [1] can help you.
If you need community support, you can visit our platform support [2].

Regards

[1] http://clinker.klicap.es/projects/alfrescointegration
[2] http://support.klicap.es

2010/8/5 Mathew Phillips mathew.phill...@wartburg.edu:
 I've searched the Trac Hacks and the normal Trac plugin site and I can't
 quite seem to find a plugin that meets what I'm looking for. I love trac and
 the way it functions so far. I would like to use the wiki to manage some of
 the documents for my project like business requirements and models and
 documentation. The default to me seems to be just to be able to attach
 documents to a particular page. I see that you can overwrite them with
 another document so if you make changes to the document you can update what
 is stored on the page. But it would make more sense to only have one copy of
 the document that is stored as the attachment to the page and you can edit
 it and save it automatically. Does anyone know of a particular plugin that
 adds this functionality? Thank you for anyone who takes time to respond!

 Matt

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Re: [Trac] Trac Versioned Documents

2010-08-05 Thread Olemis Lang
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 10:44 PM, Mathew Phillips
mathew.phill...@wartburg.edu wrote:
 I've searched the Trac Hacks and the normal Trac plugin site and I can't
 quite seem to find a plugin that meets what I'm looking for. I love trac and
 the way it functions so far. I would like to use the wiki to manage some of
 the documents for my project like business requirements and models and
 documentation. The default to me seems to be just to be able to attach
 documents to a particular page. I see that you can overwrite them with
 another document so if you make changes to the document you can update what
 is stored on the page. But it would make more sense to only have one copy of
 the document that is stored as the attachment to the page and you can edit
 it and save it automatically.

AFAICS this looks very similar to Sharepoint CMS (i.e. document
libraries contain only have one copy of documents, each having it's
own history with major  minor version numbers and -MS Office files-
may be edited directly from web page and updated auto-magically via
WebDav , ...) .

The fact is that Trac isn't exactly a CMS . It's possible to implement
such extension on top of it but it's not a trivial task . OTOH ,
TracCMIS plugin offers some kind of integration for CMS implementing
CMIS standard , so you could deploy a CMS together with Trac and
integrate both (like someone said once es_ES «zapatero a tus zapatos»
...) . See links below for further details about CMIS implementors

http://www.cmswire.com/cms/enterprise-cms/update-cms-interoperability-project-cmis-making-solid-progress-005003.php
http://xml.coverpages.org/cmis.html#supportingEntities
http://www.cmswatch.com/Blog/1368-Microsoft-SharePoint-and-the-CMIS-standard
http://groups.google.com/group/django-cms/browse_thread/thread/31dd071b4f7da6f0/127641ff8c65253b?lnk=raotpli=1

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Re: [Trac] Trac Versioned Documents

2010-08-05 Thread Clemens Feige

Hi Matt.

Why don't you put those documents under SVN (sub-version) version 
control instead of attachhing them to the wiki page. There is a wiki 
command for linking to SVN controlled files.


Link to an attached file of a wiki page: attachment:my_doc.pdf

Link to a SVN version controlled file: source:path/my_doc.pdf or even 
source:path/my_doc@123 where 123 is the version number. Of course 
this needs a SVN server. But Trac is made to cooperate tightly with SVN.


Clemens

Mathew Phillips:

I've searched the Trac Hacks and the normal Trac plugin site and I can't quite 
seem to find a plugin that meets what I'm looking for. I love trac and the way 
it functions so far. I would like to use the wiki to manage some of the 
documents for my project like business requirements and models and 
documentation. The default to me seems to be just to be able to attach 
documents to a particular page. I see that you can overwrite them with another 
document so if you make changes to the document you can update what is stored 
on the page. But it would make more sense to only have one copy of the document 
that is stored as the attachment to the page and you can edit it and save it 
automatically. Does anyone know of a particular plugin that adds this 
functionality? Thank you for anyone who takes time to respond!

Matt


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Re: [Trac] Trac Versioned Documents

2010-08-05 Thread W. Martin Borgert

Quoting Clemens Feige c.fe...@osypkamed.com:
Why don't you put those documents under SVN (sub-version) version  
control instead of attachhing them to the wiki page. There is a wiki  
command for linking to SVN controlled files.


This is the way to go, indeed. It would be nice, however, to have
a Trac plugin to do an SVN commit, at least to checkin a new version
of an existing file. This has been discussed multiple times, but
nobody so far stepped forward with an implementation, AFAIK. Without
such a plugin users have to have an SVN client, which can be a
problem in some cases (e.g. if you are in a company with a paranoid
policy about which software is allowed on desktop PCs etc.).

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[Trac] Trac Versioned Documents

2010-08-04 Thread Mathew Phillips
I've searched the Trac Hacks and the normal Trac plugin site and I can't quite 
seem to find a plugin that meets what I'm looking for. I love trac and the way 
it functions so far. I would like to use the wiki to manage some of the 
documents for my project like business requirements and models and 
documentation. The default to me seems to be just to be able to attach 
documents to a particular page. I see that you can overwrite them with another 
document so if you make changes to the document you can update what is stored 
on the page. But it would make more sense to only have one copy of the document 
that is stored as the attachment to the page and you can edit it and save it 
automatically. Does anyone know of a particular plugin that adds this 
functionality? Thank you for anyone who takes time to respond!

Matt

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Re: [Trac] Trac Versioned Documents

2010-08-04 Thread Noah Kantrowitz
This is not something Trac is really built for, and making a document control 
system plugin would be quite an undertaking. On the other hand, why not just 
make each document into a wiki page? If that isn't an option, your next best 
bet is to use a real version control tool like Subversion, Mercurial, or Git.

--Noah

On Aug 4, 2010, at 8:44 PM, Mathew Phillips wrote:

 I've searched the Trac Hacks and the normal Trac plugin site and I can't 
 quite seem to find a plugin that meets what I'm looking for. I love trac and 
 the way it functions so far. I would like to use the wiki to manage some of 
 the documents for my project like business requirements and models and 
 documentation. The default to me seems to be just to be able to attach 
 documents to a particular page. I see that you can overwrite them with 
 another document so if you make changes to the document you can update what 
 is stored on the page. But it would make more sense to only have one copy of 
 the document that is stored as the attachment to the page and you can edit it 
 and save it automatically. Does anyone know of a particular plugin that adds 
 this functionality? Thank you for anyone who takes time to respond!
 
 Matt
 
 
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