Re: [Trac] two-way e-mail conversation from within Trac (was: New email2trac version)

2013-06-20 Thread Bas van der Vlies

On 19 jun. 2013, at 10:05, W. Martin Borgert deba...@debian.org wrote:

 On 2013-06-19 05:54, Bas van der Vlies wrote:
 What i
 really want is described in ticket:
  * https://oss.trac.surfsara.nl/email2trac/ticket/297
 
 There is a feature request for the AnnouncerPlugin to support this:
 * https://trac-hacks.org/ticket/10044
 
 This sounds useful, indeed. The Debian bug tracker has one mail
 address per bug, too: email to 712...@bugs.debian.org will be
 appended to the bugs web page http://bugs.debian.org/712750
 

Thanks. If more people file a request or say i want this feature. Maybe it will 
be done ;-)



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Re: [Trac] two-way e-mail conversation from within Trac (was: New email2trac version)

2013-06-19 Thread Bas van der Vlies
 
 Could the WorkflowNotificationPlugin be of use here?  
 (https://www.trac-hacks.org/wiki/WorkflowNotificationPlugin)  I've been using 
 it pretty happily in a helpdesk-type configuration, with custom notifications 
 tied to workflow actions for triage/review, info-needed and verification.  
 Using conditional notifications you could conceivably set it up independent 
 of workflow states.
 
 I haven't yet installed email2trac on my setup, but I've been meaning to -- I 
 definitely had it mind to complement email2trac when I was first developing 
 WorkflowNotificationPlugin.
 

Ethan WorkflowNotificationPlugin is a nice plugin. What i really want is 
described in this tickets.  The bottom line is that each ticket get it's own 
address. Most MTA can handle this.
 * 
https://oss.trac.surfsara.nl/email2trac/ticket/297https://oss.trac.surfsara.nl/email2trac/ticket/297
 * https://trac-hacks.org/ticket/10044

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Re: [Trac] two-way e-mail conversation from within Trac (was: New email2trac version)

2013-06-19 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2013-06-19 05:54, Bas van der Vlies wrote:
 What i
 really want is described in ticket:
   * https://oss.trac.surfsara.nl/email2trac/ticket/297

 There is a feature request for the AnnouncerPlugin to support this:
  * https://trac-hacks.org/ticket/10044

This sounds useful, indeed. The Debian bug tracker has one mail
address per bug, too: email to 712...@bugs.debian.org will be
appended to the bugs web page http://bugs.debian.org/712750

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[Trac] two-way e-mail conversation from within Trac (was: New email2trac version)

2013-06-18 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Hi,

many thanks for constantly working on email2trac! I'm using it
since some years now and I'm very satisfied with it.

There is one thing, I'm missing however: When support staff is
answering a ticket, they still use their e-mail client (MUA) and
have to cc the Trac address to update the ticket at the same
time. They have to take care to put the ticket number in the
subject. It would be nice, to answer directly from within Trac
and let Trac send out the email to the client.

One can, of course, put the client into cc of the ticket, but
that would potentially generate a flood of mails to the client,
e.g. if the ticket is re-assigned or some internal fields, not
of interest to the client, are changed.

This is a typical use case for e-mail based issue trackers, or
CRM systems and I already found a very nice solution the with
OpenERP issue tracker. But maybe Trac can to the trick, too?

TIA, Cheers


On 2013-06-18 11:07, Bas van der Vlies wrote:
 2.7.0

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Re: [Trac] two-way e-mail conversation from within Trac (was: New email2trac version)

2013-06-18 Thread Ethan Jucovy
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 5:53 PM, W. Martin Borgert deba...@debian.orgwrote:

 There is one thing, I'm missing however: When support staff is
 answering a ticket, they still use their e-mail client (MUA) and
 have to cc the Trac address to update the ticket at the same
 time. They have to take care to put the ticket number in the
 subject. It would be nice, to answer directly from within Trac
 and let Trac send out the email to the client.

 One can, of course, put the client into cc of the ticket, but
 that would potentially generate a flood of mails to the client,
 e.g. if the ticket is re-assigned or some internal fields, not
 of interest to the client, are changed.


Could the WorkflowNotificationPlugin be of use here?  (
https://www.trac-hacks.org/wiki/WorkflowNotificationPlugin)  I've been
using it pretty happily in a helpdesk-type configuration, with custom
notifications tied to workflow actions for triage/review, info-needed and
verification.  Using conditional notifications you could conceivably set it
up independent of workflow states.

I haven't yet installed email2trac on my setup, but I've been meaning to --
I definitely had it mind to complement email2trac when I was first
developing WorkflowNotificationPlugin.

-Ethan

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Re: [Trac] two-way e-mail conversation from within Trac (was: New email2trac version)

2013-06-18 Thread Bas van der Vlies

On 18 jun. 2013, at 23:53, W. Martin Borgert deba...@debian.org wrote:

 Hi,
 
 many thanks for constantly working on email2trac! I'm using it
 since some years now and I'm very satisfied with it.
 
 There is one thing, I'm missing however: When support staff is
 answering a ticket, they still use their e-mail client (MUA) and
 have to cc the Trac address to update the ticket at the same
 time. They have to take care to put the ticket number in the
 subject. It would be nice, to answer directly from within Trac
 and let Trac send out the email to the client.
 
 One can, of course, put the client into cc of the ticket, but
 that would potentially generate a flood of mails to the client,
 e.g. if the ticket is re-assigned or some internal fields, not
 of interest to the client, are changed.
 
 This is a typical use case for e-mail based issue trackers, or
 CRM systems and I already found a very nice solution the with
 OpenERP issue tracker. But maybe Trac can to the trick, too?
 
 TIA, Cheers
 

Martin at our site we have setup an email list for support staff (the staff are 
members or alias). This list is independent for trace tickets, e.g.: 
helpd...@company.nl
and the ticket address: i...@company.nl

With this settings you can configure the notification section in trace.ini

[notification]
always_notify_owner = true
always_notify_reporter = true
smtp_always_cc = helpd...@company.nl
smtp_enabled = true
smtp_from = i...@company.nl
smtp_replyto = i...@company.nl

And the can now it the reply button on email send to 'helpd...@company.nl' it 
is still dependent on the subject or keyword in the body mail. What i
really want is described in ticket:
  * https://oss.trac.surfsara.nl/email2trac/ticket/297

There is a feature request for the AnnouncerPlugin to support this:
 * https://trac-hacks.org/ticket/10044


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