Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Membership
I decided to make the move of improving my life. This meant I would have to work on a few things, and on of the biggest is security. Without security, you have nothing, not even your health (which is almost everything). It is essential. As with many things in life, there are more ways to be paid that just money, and there is more to security than a lock on your door. Society, i.e. your direct environment, and yet also even the whole world determines your security. We are all in this together, whether we acknowledge it or not. Only libre software is truly secure. As another thread-maker here stated, the only practical distros that I know of from GNU.org is gNewSense and Trisquel. Only if people are presented the opportunity, will they act on something. And for that, Ruben I can't tell you how thankful I am that you have worked so hard on Trisquel. I have to give credit where it is due, so I also thank the people that work on all aspects of what makes Ubuntu, good stuff, as Trisquel is based on it. Without it, Trisquel wouldn't be possible. However, in short, Trisquel embodies what Ubuntu should be. I have used enough software to know how hard you work on the polish and appreciate it. It is the often small details in life that can sometimes actually make the most difference. It is the Premier OS right now, and I foresee it will continue to gain momentum and grow in its awesomeness. Without my life story, I don't have money to donate at the moment. But I want to help make change myself and make it my full time job. Perhaps I can help with Trisquel, at least for now. As mentioned above, time is priceless, and I do have at least some of that to give. So, to avoid highjacking the thread further if I have... I will start by giveing my insight now on the main discussion. :) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Reoccurring is a good idea, always nice to have options for benefactors. It works for many Non-Profits. Looking at it that way is probably best as well, I think. As far as making money, I think most libre software makers look at it wrong. Most try to make money off of the service, like Ubuntu does for commercial customers. I like how RMS envisioned it, where people write requested software, and the programmers get paid for their work. After that, the requesters will hopefully make the software available to all, for their own security. Now, how do you do this? I have some ideas, but that is another discussion. For now, I think we should look at it for Trisquel like this. When you go to download it, you are given the option to make a donation at the time of download, like the Humble Indie Bundle. (which went to the non-profits FSF and Childsplay) There may be more exposure by pointing people to a shopping cart, however it may turn some people away. So perhaps two options would be nice. Two medium buttons in the middle of the page, one that says add to cart, with an .img that says something like price ?.00 beside it and another that just says download now (next/later page points to direct download and torrent links for both options). If you select the add to cart option, a choice to make it reoccurring, maybe monthly or annually could be there on a later page. Of course, I feel it should and legally will (due to non-profit?) have to remain completely free. But the Humble Indie Bundle and even the band
Re: [Trisquel-users] Revival of Triskel
I haven't yet used Libre Office. But having used OpenOffice.org, and soon planning to try Libre Office as it is mainly a fork, I would say that I like it. I haven't used Koffice, but, I think my vote may still swing toward Libre for the following reason. Libre Office has as far as I am aware more developers, and possible exposure that would be mutually shared. In other words, using it would likely get more attention for Trisquel, and also for Libre as well. Helping Libre is great, for reasons I hope are obvious. But by all means, it isn't a game changing reason for just disregarding any free software. But still something to consider. Is there any possible way to compress the files down by 60 megs more? I like the idea of KDE, but haven't used it in a long time since when it was mucho buggy. Good idea/job! Oh, one last thing, how can I get the iso?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Membership
like the Humble Indie Bundle. (which went to the non-profits FSF and Childsplay) Just a note: It was EFF (Electronic Frontier Foundation) instead of FSF. Of course, I feel it should and legally will (due to non-profit?) have to remain completely free. But the Humble Indie Bundle and even the band It is the end of the email for me. I think that you had a problem copy-pasting your email (or I have a cut piece of the comlete one for some reason). Please, let me follow reading this emotive mail!
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Membership
I am posting to the site forums. There may be a limit to the transfer to the mailing list... Here is the rest, hopefully, ending with the words foundation built here. Of course, I feel it should and legally will (due to non-profit?) have to remain completely free. But the Humble Indie Bundle and even the band Radio Head gained a lot of exposure and funds with the pay what you want/can idea. Makes people feel warm and fuzzy inside, even if only, 'Wow, I can get this for free! lol. In conclusion, I see nothing wrong with charging for free software. Again, I think it should be a non-profit donation situation, but only through bold moves are people ever going to allowed free themselves from the slavery that is proprietary software. Paradigm shifts must take place. And Trisquel is so valuable to me because not only does it do so by just working, but represents an opportunity to be truly free, and truly progress society by offering the opportunity in other aspects of society. Present opportunities to donate, make it simple, easy, and always consider your audience, your users. Keep it exciting, as life should be. Thank you Ruben, and everyone here. You will change my life through your work, simply by presenting not only myself, but everyone with the opportunity for security. I hope to be able to help spread open philosophy and education in big ways for the world, expanding them on the foundation built here.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Another U.S. vendor selling Trisquel pre-installed
This. Is. Awesome.
[Trisquel-users] Why does telepathy on Trisquel 4.1-sugar Live CD telepathy segfaults as a booted CD but not when installed and run from VirtualBox
Any one have an idea why Trisquel 4.1-sugar (Ubuntu 10.04 based) telepathy segfaults as a booted live CD but not when installed to VirtualBox. Both have a network connetion on Browse and IRC. Tom Gilliard satellit quidam: any idea why live booted 4.1 CD-sugar segfaults on telepathy? quidam I'm not sure updating will remove it quidam satellit_Tris41: I've been trying to reproduce that, no luck satellit-6168 Here is 4.1 CD on ACER satellit-6168 1299803879.368790 WARNING s-p-s.telepathy_plugin: D-Bus name org.freedesktop.Telepathy.Connection.gabble.jabber._36168fef98b9a9b26a559c3266b76c207e68cf339_40jabber_2esugarlabs_2eorg_2f4504cce2 disappeared, this probably means gabble crashed satellit-6168 446.980864] telepathy-gabbl[3573]: segfault at 726f2dd0 ip 00878a29 sp bfe306d0 error 6 in libloudmouth-1.so.0.1.0[86c000+17000] quidam satellit_Tris41: it puzzles me quidam :/ satellit_Tris41 from Tris 4.1-sugar satellit_Tris41 finally draged to IRC from log via sugar clipboard.hard to do satellit-6168 error from booted CD satellit-6168 hope that helps * satellit-6168 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) satellit_Tris41 there is no telepathy on the booted CD but this VB4 works? (Installed)
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 4.5 Beta testing reports (pt. 2)
I'm glad Gwibber was added, though I won't need it myself. I do miss the mail notification icon at the bottom-right. I found it quite useful, and I don't think I am the only one.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Kudos, and a minor suggestion.
I actually like Web Browser. Who knows, perhaps one day it will be a real fork... Design is tough, yet important and often overlooked. I envision a day where most everyone uses libre software, and it is just the web browser. Simple, tells you what it does, even the computer illiterate will get it and what it means. As mentioned, it DID work for MS, even they luck up and get it right sometimes. What is a FireFox, and what does it have to do with anything, let alone freedom? Maybe you see what I mean. We should not get caught up for branding for the sake of branding, but branding is important. Focus should be on Trisquel itself, imho.
Re: [Trisquel-users] gnome global menu
Agreed, beautiful in it's simplicity and usefulness, and doesn't get in your way while intuitive.
Re: [Trisquel-users] DuckDuckGo?
How about something like Trisearch.com? ;) Let's show them all how to do it right. Take the zing out of the bing.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Membership
I have another idea. The Slashdot.org crowd seems to really love open source, and often libre software. You usually are better getting an article accepted if you can summarize, i.e. post the interesting parts of the press release. I have to say, the main page of Trisquel.info helped catch my eye, so kudos to quidam and whoever is behind whole page layout. I think it is a little late to post the last announcement, but perhaps lamenting on the libre part will peak interest with Slaine's release. I have had an article or to accepted, and would be glad to do it. Also mentioned was that Sugar will be on an education version. Sugar has been talked about before often as well...
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Membership
Hi jason; I think we talked tonight Tom Gilliard satellit on IRC #sugar and #trisquel Bend Oregon volunteer with sugarlabs.org (retired) : ) I think quidam is in spain? jason.alden.ben...@gmail.com wrote: I have another idea. The Slashdot.org crowd seems to really love open source, and often libre software. You usually are better getting an article accepted if you can summarize, i.e. post the interesting parts of the press release. I have to say, the main page of Trisquel.info helped catch my eye, so kudos to quidam and whoever is behind whole page layout. I think it is a little late to post the last announcement, but perhaps lamenting on the libre part will peak interest with Slaine's release. I have had an article or to accepted, and would be glad to do it. Also mentioned was that Sugar will be on an education version. Sugar has been talked about before often as well...
