[Trisquel-users] Antwort: WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working
First, thanks for making my email publicly available to spam bots. I thought there were private? At least I can't see the email addresses from other people on this forum :P I have not considered purchasing an external ethernet adapter because I have read that other people ran into problems with this when running a linux distro. Most of them were related to the thunderbolt/displayport however. So, using a USB wireless adapter was my best choice and as it turns out I have a free software compatible USB wireless adapter from TP-Link. With the kind help of @lembas I have updated the libre-kernel to linux-source-3.10.0-gnu but this did not solve or help with the problem. It only added another noticable problem where my Macbook Air would not shut down anymore :( It's easy to blame some company, but I want to focus on finding a workable solution. My next computer will be purchased with free software compability in mind. But for now I want to get the dual boot working with the internal hardware if possible - there are open source drivers for my wireless chip. This is my first time using a FSF endorsed OS. I did not expect this to be easy. But completely switching my workflow 100% after 7 years of using OSX is quite demanding. The dual boot setup is my conversion phase. Hopefully, I will get it all working so that I can make the full switch to libre software in the future.
[Trisquel-users] Antwort: WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working
Your right, I should use a faster wireless adapter. My router supports 5GHz and up to 300 MBit/s and my current subscriptions offers me 50/2.5 MBit of internet bandwidth. So the real word bandwith of g networking is would be insufficient. Here are three pictures of the Asus WL-167G (V2) wireless USB adapter: Specification: http://cl.ly/image/1N0y2v1C0x2L (MAC address removed) Back: http://cl.ly/image/0l1Q0d2b2b42 Front: http://cl.ly/image/3c0Z2R2U072K
Re: [Trisquel-users] Can I recover from moronic loss of the root password?
su will not work because the root password is locked by default, one is expected to use sudo. So, to become root use sudo su, which asks for YOUR password and not root's. In case you have forgotten YOUR password, you need a live media. Or another OS which can access your /etc/shadow file. If an attacker has physical access to your box, you've lost. Only a full disk encryption can defend against that (and might also bite you in the ass should you forget that password!).
Re: [Trisquel-users] WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working
Installed and rebooted while attached. Still nothing happens on both USB ports. :( Here's a picture for confirmation: http://cl.ly/image/3P020y0j0m1a
Re: [Trisquel-users] WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working
Yes, I was also fearing that this is an issue with the USB ports. Now, I have created an ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-amd64 live USB (not the alternate iso, because that one does not offer run without installing ubuntu first). The TP-link adapter is working in this live ubuntu on my macbook air! Picture as proof: http://cl.ly/image/0n3D271g1y1M
Re: [Trisquel-users] Is there a reasonable cloud storage method?
I host everything myself; you can solve the problem with the static ip easily with a service like noip.com (it's free of charge). A small script (included in the free-debian repos, don't know about trisquel) sends the new ip to noip.com and then your domain gets linked to the new ip instead of the old. If you decide to host everything yourself, you will gain much more privacy and independence and you will learn a lot about servers; I was astonished how easy everything was.
Re: [Trisquel-users] WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working
My next computer will be purchased with free software compability in mind. Then you should definitely check out the Chromebook Pixel, which is currently the best FLOSS compatible laptop I'm aware of. It is also the only one comparable in hardware design to your MacBook Air. ...there are open source drivers for my wireless chip Most (if not all) of the wireless drivers contained within the Linux-kernel are released under a FLOSS compatible license. The real issue is that the vast majority of them relies on a proprietary firmware blob, included within the mainline kernels (like the ones used in Ubuntu), and because you have the misfortune of buying a hardware that uses a proprietary/non-standard WiFi/Bluetooth combo card (probably designed by Apple itself), your only real choice is to use some external wireless adapter, like the aforementioned TP-Link TL-WN722N, if you doesn't want to install the non-free firmware blob (not recommended, since you will need to manually update the wireless driver after every kernel upgrade). The best compromise (in my opinion) is to buy a Unex DNUA-93F/ThinkPenguin TPE-N150USB type of adapters, since they are very small, and does not hinder during daily usage.
Re: [Trisquel-users] WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working
Thank you! I'll attach those pictures to the device WikiDevi page later. You may also consider buying a fully FLOSS compatible wireless router. The only 100% pure FLOSS driven that doesn't rely on proprietary binary blobs, is currently the Buffalo WZR-HP-G300NH v1 (only the first revision is supported by LibreWRT, so make sure not to buy anything other). Look up on eBay to find one that's cheap, and in a good shape.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Antwort: WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working
On 14/07/13 17:54, fourfreedom wrote: First, thanks for making my email publicly available to spam bots. I thought there were private? At least I can't see the email addresses from other people on this forum :P There is a connected mailing list for this forum: http://listas.trisquel.info Andrew.
Re: [Trisquel-users] WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working
Ha, the 12.04.2 version does use the 3.5 series kernel series AFAIK, so that could be the reason.
[Trisquel-users] Antwort: WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working
In fact, I have considered in the past to use a fully free software compatible router. But getting this done is very difficult: 1) Limited availability of providers which also have very different pricing. 2) Some providers nowadays require you to use their router etc. This makes it easier for them to update software and troubleshoot errors. 3) My current provider is really awesome when it comes to service and pricing (Unitymedia). But their router receives automatic firmware updates and I cannot interfere with that. This is a router where TV/phone/Internet are transferred via one and the same cable. If I were to change my provider the way I connect to the internet would probably require a whole different technology. The best workable solution would probably be to use a libre router to connect to the proprietary router via LAN but encrypt all internet traffic beforehand to ensure full integrity of my internet traffic. If this is the case, the router would not require much extended functionalities.
Re: [Trisquel-users] WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working
On 14/07/13 19:46, mYself wrote: My next computer will be purchased with free software compability in mind. Then you should definitely check out the Chromebook Pixel, which is currently the best FLOSS compatible laptop I'm aware of. It is also the only one comparable in hardware design to your MacBook Air. The Chromebook Pixel is, unfortunately, rather expensive at the moment. At least for some. :-) Maybe the price will have gone down a little by next year though. Andrew.
Re: [Trisquel-users] WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working
Ok, just to be sure, can you confirm this with the output of the uname -r command?
[Trisquel-users] Antwort: WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working
So, is this the Trisquel-users mailing list that you are talking about? Do subscribers receive emails of all replies in the forum posts? I'm asking because I would very much like to receive an email notification whenever people reply to my forum post - and *only* then! Thanks for letting me know about the mailing lists.
[Trisquel-users] Antwort: WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working
The Chromebook is a bliss :) Yet, the price is really high at the moment. I have found a German hardware vendor which sells a compact, but cheap USB wireless adapter. The driver is open source, but I do not know about the firmware Source code: http://www.edimax.com/images/Image/Driver_Utility/Wireless/NIC/EW-7811Un/rtl8192CU_8188CU_linux_v2.0.939.20100726.zip Product information: http://www.edimax.eu/en/produce_detail.php?pl1_id=1pl2_id=44pl3_id=170pd_id=324#03 Listing on Amazon.com: http://www.amazon.com/Edimax-EW-7811Un-Wireless-Adapter-Wizard/dp/B003MTTJOY/ref=sr_1_1/182-1603766-5702741?ie=UTF8qid=1373798954sr=8-1keywords=EDIMAX+EW-7811UN
[Trisquel-users] Antwort: WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working
It's in the attached picture already: $ uname -r 3.2.0-48-generic
Re: [Trisquel-users] Security of source-code
It seems the lesson that should have been learned from the Stuxnet attack by Iran is that allowing others into your facilities has its risks.
[Trisquel-users] Antwort: WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working
It's all in this new picture: http://cl.ly/image/3S3q1F1P1n1f 12.04.2 $ uname -r 3.5.0-23-generic
Re: [Trisquel-users] WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working
Edimax EW-7811Un Definitely NO! The device isn't FLOSS compatible at all. You should only focus on the ath9k_htc compatible ones. The smallest and cheapest device I am aware of (already compared all of the listed devices) is the Unex DNUA-93F. There are alternatives such as the Onkyo UWF-1, and some other models, but they can be very expensive, while no better.
[Trisquel-users] Antwort: Security of source-code
I am very thanful for all the articles. It fortifies me to use Trisquel and try to persuade people in my neighborhood to this distrbution. Thank you all.
[Trisquel-users] Antwort: WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working
Thanks for the ath9k_htc compatible list! I might buy the Onkyo UWF-1 because it's so small and the price is fair. But I'll go through the whole list and see if there are even smaller ones. ;-) Edit: Most of them don't have pictures yet. So this is like searching a needle in a hay stack.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Antwort: WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working
On 14/07/13 20:31, fourfreedom wrote: 2) Some providers nowadays require you to use their router etc. This makes it easier for them to update software and troubleshoot errors. I know someone whose provider required this. When I set up their network I just found the settings online. I imagine it's the same for nearly all ISPs. ISP routers are often just rebranded models anyway. Andrew.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Antwort: WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working
On 14/07/13 20:40, fourfreedom wrote: So, is this the Trisquel-users mailing list that you are talking about? Do subscribers receive emails of all replies in the forum posts? I'm asking because I would very much like to receive an email notification whenever people reply to my forum post - and *only* then! Thanks for letting me know about the mailing lists. The mailing list sends emails from users in the forum and the mailing list, i.e. they are synchronised. But I don't think there is any way to set it to only mail replies to your forum posts (I imagine this would have to be implemented in Drupal for it to work). Andrew.
[Trisquel-users] Antwort: WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working
Thanks for the update Andrew. This behavior is not common and therefore unexpected, but I I just noticed that when editing my account there is a small description under the e-mail address field which discloses that my e-mail address will be used for such things. I do not like it, but at least I understand now. Thanks :)
Re: [Trisquel-users] WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working
Just copy the device name from the list to the DuckDuckGo search box, and append the !i bang syntax. That's the way I'm doing that.
Re: [Trisquel-users] WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working
I do not like it, but at least I understand now. Thanks :) I don't like it either and thus filed https://trisquel.info/en/issues/2003
Re: [Trisquel-users] Is there a reasonable cloud storage method?
I've been pondering doing this myself. How are the costs?
[Trisquel-users] Re : Can I recover from moronic loss of the root password?
'sudo -i' gives you a root terminal ($HOME is /root and so on) with your user password.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Does QupZilla work with Tor
It sounds like Qupzilla can't handle direct connections to tor. Install privoxy, and point privoxy to tor via the following line in privoxy config: #forward-socks5 / 127.0.0.1:9050 . Removing the # sign in the above line in the privoxy config will allow privoxy to serve as an http proxy, and in turn hand off web requests to tor. The resulting connection will look like this: PC---Privoxy---Tor---Internet Once that is done, change your proxy settings in Qupzilla to point to port 8118 on locahost and you should be able to surf via tor. Do note, privoxy can also be used as a web filter, and can remove all kinds of nasty things from web pages, including ads and web bugs, greatly increasing your online privacy. It's worth checking out in it's own right and can enhance online privacy when combined with tor.
Re: [Trisquel-users] WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working
Ah, sorry. I overlooked that. Now try to download the 3.5 series kernel, install it, and see what happens. Also, do not forget to attach the output of the uname -r command.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Can I recover from moronic loss of the root password?
Suppose you haven't forgotten the password, but you just want to change it. How can you do that?
[Trisquel-users] Antwort: WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working
Wohoo! You did it :D It's working now. I can connect the TL-WN772N adapter anytime I want and connect to the world wide web. The throughput is not optimal but I really don't care about that right now. Thank you very much for your help! In case Triquel updates the kernel sometimes later (but to a version 3.5) will it downgrade my installation so that I'd have to install this again?
Re: [Trisquel-users] WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working
Congrats! In case Triquel updates the kernel sometimes later (but to a version 3.5) will it downgrade my installation so that I'd have to install this again? I believe the kernel with the largest version number is the default choice, so no.
[Trisquel-users] Antwort: WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working
That's good. Thanks!
[Trisquel-users] Antwort: WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working
It worked! Thanks @mYself! Here's the proof: http://cl.ly/image/3L1p1p0a2X1Y
Re: [Trisquel-users] Can I recover from moronic loss of the root password?
Use the passwd command. There might be a fancy GUI way too.
[Trisquel-users] Antwort: WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working
Wow, this bug is already three years old! I shall leave a comment there right now.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Can I recover from moronic loss of the root password?
The GUI way depends on the DE, but for GNOME it's in Users and Groups.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Can I recover from moronic loss of the root password?
You can log in as you normally would, and do the same 'passwd' command as mentioned in this thread. You'll be asked for the old password, the new password, then to confirm the new password.
[Trisquel-users] Motherboard MSI
I just added another desktop to my collection. It runs the MSI mainboard H61M-P31 G3. Trisquel runs good on it, but is there a feature in Trisquel to check whether or not Trisquel uses de graphicchip on it. So there is no Graphic card? Just a chip on the MSI mainboard.
[Trisquel-users] jar-files
Noobquestion i think, but how do i open jar-files in trisquel ? and install the program ?
[Trisquel-users] Re : jar-files
$ java [ options ] -jar file.jar [ argument ... ] The arguments are passed to the main method of the Java program. As for the options passed to the interpreter (you probably want none), you can take a look at: $ man java
[Trisquel-users] Some blobs more equal than others?
Hello all! I am new to Trisquel and am looking to use free software since I think freedom is very important (though ironically I'm posting this from Windows since the computer I'm on atm refuses to work with anything other than 8 gotta love new innovative hardware *rolls eyes*. I'm a student so don't have any money but hoping in the future to get a freedom respecting machine). Anyway this is a question that has been eating on me for a while and I can't really seem to come to a conclusion myself from what I read online. I agree with the move Trisquel and the FSF pushes for, to remove the non-free blobs from the linux kernel because they are just that: non-free. No access (or at least, no free as in freedom access) to the source code means that nobody, other than the the original developer can control it, thus it is software that controls the user. This question comes from a difference perspective however, software stored on a non-rewritable ROM which nobody can modify once wrote to, and why are they acceptable but non-free blobs are not? Before answering that question let me explain how I understand it more in depth. Perhaps I have misunderstood the issue somewhat and in that case someone please let me know. First, the BIOS. At the FSF, they are lobbying for a free BIOS . The reason, because in the past the BIOS was on a ROM and thus was not changeable at all, it was basically like hardware, like the program that runs on your microwave oven and can't be changed. Today however, the bios is flashed in a user flashable memory, so now it is more like softwre. On that page it says this: Strictly speaking, there was a non-free program in that computer: the BIOS. But that was impossible to replace, and by the same token, it didn't count. The BIOS was impossible to replace because it was stored in ROM: the only way to to put in a different BIOS was by replacing part of the hardware. In effect, the BIOS was itself hardware--and therefore didn't really count as software. It was like the program that (we can suppose) exists in the computer that (we can suppose) runs your watch or your microwave oven: since you can't install software on it, it may as well be circuits, not a computer at all. So I agree that when a program is on a ROM there is no point to having the source code anyway since it can't be changed without changing the physical piece of hardware, but this begs the question, where do we draw the line for when source code must be free and when it doesn't in the terms of a ROM. For example, a CD is a ROM. You can't change it, to try to do so would simply destroy the CD. So if I distributed a program that ran from a CD-ROM it would be okay to not provide the source code because it can't be changed anyway? What draws the line for the difference between a CD with a program and a ROM with a BIOS, or firmware for a GPU, or whatever it is. Does this also mean that it would be okay for Microsoft to provide a copy of Windows on a PC loaded from a ROM rather than a hard disk? Of course they wouldn't be able to update it without changing the ROM physically, but is this okay? Under the terms that seem acceptable to the FSF I would assume yes? I don't think it is though, so what draws the line of running something like Microsoft Windows in a ROM vs running a BIOS, firmware or anything else. All are programs, the only difference is they are different types of programs. Looking for an answer to this the best I could find this this blog post which of course, does not answer the question, at least not in the terms that I understand. It seems that the blog writer was wondering too, just like me why blobs in a ROM is okay but not in the kernel. So, can anyone explain to me what the difference is and why blobs are okay in a ROM but not in the kernel, because it looks to me that it's not okay in either case? Eagerly waiting replies! Thanks everyone! -Jonah
Re: [Trisquel-users] Some blobs more equal than others?
This question comes from a difference perspective however, software stored on a non-rewritable ROM which nobody can modify once wrote to, and why are they acceptable but non-free blobs are not? The blobs that can be changed are software. The parts of chips that aren't implemented as ROM are clearly hardware and the software freedoms don't apply to them: making modified chips is beyond a single user's budget, being allowed to doesn't change much. This argument applies to ROM too since it cannot be modified without making a new chip (although it could be cheaper for PROM, not sure if it's an important difference here: making a motherboard is expensive too and the blank chips might be difficult to obtain, imagine ARM SoC bootrom, not a separate PROM chip). So there is no difference in freedom between ROM and circuits for software users. (ROM can also be implemented in the same way as other parts of the chip, making it equally hard to replace.) So I agree that when a program is on a ROM there is no point to having the source code anyway since it can't be changed without changing the physical piece of hardware, but this begs the question, where do we draw the line for when source code must be free and when it doesn't in the terms of a ROM. Having the source is useful in some cases. There is a related problem: we cannot know that it is the corresponding source, maybe backdoors were added by the manufacturer and not published in the source. For example, a CD is a ROM. You can't change it, to try to do so would simply destroy the CD. So if I distributed a program that ran from a CD-ROM it would be okay to not provide the source code because it can't be changed anyway? It's easy and cheap to buy and write a copy on a CD-R. What draws the line for the difference between a CD with a program and a ROM with a BIOS, or firmware for a GPU, or whatever it is. A CD is a medium used to distribute software, a ROM with BIOS is usually integrated into a computer. Users buy a software copy in one case, a hardware device in another. Does this also mean that it would be okay for Microsoft to provide a copy of Windows on a PC loaded from a ROM rather than a hard disk? Of course they wouldn't be able to update it without changing the ROM physically, but is this okay? Under the terms that seem acceptable to the FSF I would assume yes? It could be literally true if it's a real ROM (now signed flash is used for this purpose). This might be a malicious program: it's the same as if it was hardware, it shouldn't be used for this reason. (It's what RMS writes about phone baseband firmware, while replacing it won't free us of carrier surveillance.) I'm not sure what business model could Microsoft have for Windows without software installation. I don't think it is though, so what draws the line of running something like Microsoft Windows in a ROM vs running a BIOS, firmware or anything else. All are programs, the only difference is they are different types of programs. I think there is no clear line: having completely free software that can be replaced (on disk or flash) doesn't solve all freedom problems. Problems with network services controlled by others won't be solved in this way. Looking for an answer to this the best I could find this this blog post which of course, does not answer the question, at least not in the terms that I understand. It seems that the blog writer was wondering too, just like me why blobs in a ROM is okay but not in the kernel. Do you have an URL of the post? pgp8W_S9BYgLk.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Trisquel-users] WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working
I'm glad that it worked, but were not finished now. Both of the kernels I proposed you to install comes from the official Trisquel repositories. Now that you have got a working wireless connection, open up a new Terminal window, then type: sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic-lts-belenos sudo apt-get remove linux-image-generic linux-image-3.2* The first command installs a meta-package for the 3.5 kernel series, that will ensure the installation of future kernel updates. The second one removes this functionality for the older 3.2 kernel series, and also the kernel itself, since you doesn't require it anymore, and because of the non-functional network connection it is useless anyway.
Re: [Trisquel-users] WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working
Post here some screenshot.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Motherboard MSI
lspci|grep VGA
Re: [Trisquel-users] WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working
The requirements for making your computer able to connect into your wireless network are the following: - you need to download and put the htc_7010.fw (optional but recommended, since future devices might require it) and htc_9271.fw firmware files into the /lib/firmware folder. Make sure you're download them from a trusted source (only those after the firmware source code was released, because we cannot know what those previous binary files are really doing, besides allowing you to connect into your wireless network), like jxself's site, or from my driver package. You can also download and compile it yourself, using the instructions found on the open-ath9k-htc-firmware GitHub page (the build-fw.sh script contained within my self-created ath9k_htc driver package needs to be updated, since the recent changes in the building system caused that it is no longer functional, and so don't use it until I release an update). - you need to install a 3.5 or later Linux-based kernel in order to make the adapter operable (no idea what is precisely causing the issue, probably some bug or unimplemented feature). To make the kernel always up-to-date, you also need to install the linux-image-generic-lts-belenos package after you get the wireless working.
[Trisquel-users] Antwort: WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working
Too late, I was impatient and continued. Now the GRUP doesn't show any linux kernel anymore. Only my OSX installation. :/
Re: [Trisquel-users] BOINC
@MagicBanana: That's my point! @lembas: Unfortunately, I don't know of any place where you can get the source code for the World Community Grid from, but they state the following on their website: World Community Grid is making technology available only to public and not-for-profit organizations to use in humanitarian research that might otherwise not be completed due to the high cost of the computer infrastructure required in the absence of a public grid. As part of our commitment to advancing human welfare, all results will be in the public domain and made public to the global research community. [1] [1]: https://secure.worldcommunitygrid.org/about_us/viewAboutUs.do
Re: [Trisquel-users] Acer Aspire 7739
Another strange error I noticed recently: When the power adapter is not connected and my laptop is running with battery power only, my mouse stops to work after some seconds. If I reconnect it, it works again for some more seconds and then stops again. Has anyone else experienced this?
Re: [Trisquel-users] WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working
Also, did matt not install the proprietary Wi-Fi drivers at some earlier point of this discussion? Perhaps we need to remove them.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Some blobs more equal than others?
I think you're misunderstanding the fsf. I'm not an expert, but here is my point of view. The point is: whenever software is on a rom and it's not modifiable, yes, the fsf doesn't consider it as software and the four freedoms don't apply. BUT the fsf raises the next question to all things which aren't considered to be software: does it contain malicious features / restrict me in any other way? As far as I heard, they care about this topic as well. Onpon4 mentioned someone who called old video games acceptable. I think that was me. I think they're like a cd which I insert in a cd player. There is no possibility to restrict me as a user (no internet connection, private data etc), thus it seems acceptable to me. I bought the console just for this issue: playing the games. So I can accept not being able to modify the games.
[Trisquel-users] Antwort: WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working
It's fine. I can do a radical makeover (tomorrow, it's late already) and install again from scratch. All my important data is on a shared partition anyway. This time I'll follow straight your instructions from this comment: https://trisquel.info/de/forum/wifi-macbook-air-5-2-13-2012-not-working?page=1#comment-38704
Re: [Trisquel-users] WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working
I can guide you to recover your system if you want, but it is too complex. What happened?
[Trisquel-users] Antwort: WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working
I did install proprietary firmware, but since then I had already done another full reinstall of Trisquel and Ubuntu to (re-)check what worked regarding Wi-Fi with external adapters and what not.
Re: [Trisquel-users] jar-files
Additionally, you may need to install java first: sudo aptitude install openjdk-7-jre should help.
Re: [Trisquel-users] BOINC
That's of course good but if the software isn't free, it can't be included in Trisquel.
[Trisquel-users] Antwort: WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working
No need, I will do a reinstall then tomorrow. And then only apply the first of the two commands, right? What happened? No much really. There weren't really any error messages. But lots of stuff got 'removed'. The last two lines said something like you may have to update grub.cfg.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Some blobs more equal than others?
First of all, how do I quote when I make a reply, a bit of a noob question but I don't know how to use the forums platform trisquel forums use, I'm use to phpBB lol. Anyway, back on topic: I think someone on this forum said that old video games, because they are stored on a non-modifiable ROM (on a cartridge or disc), are acceptable to them. I disagree with that. Completely agree, the point is people can't make a cartridge for the n64 so having the source code isn't of much use to you and me, although nowadays with emulators and the like the source code may be more useful now than it would have been when the nintendo (or whatever other game system) first came out. I think the FSF says it's acceptable more to avoid being called extremist by others than out of some reasonable truth. This makes sense, though they should make it more clear to say that it's more acceptable for the reason that additional malicious features can't be implemented at a later date rather than saying it just acceptable since it makes things not add up too well, if that makes sense. In regards to the raspberry pi, it was the GPU Blob I remember reading about it somewhere, just to clear things up. Regarding software stored on CDs, I think a major distinction here is that the software doesn't stay on the CD; it's installed to the hard drive. Also, the data can be easily taken off of the disc and then modified, and the modified version can be either burned to another disc or executed from the hard drive. This is true, but I could say the same with any ROM. Even though the ROM that may hold the BIOS for my Dell I may still find the code useful and may wish to modify it for use on my HP for example, so I still don't really see a line other than one is used for distribution the other is used as part of the machine, but both still contain useful software. Having the source is useful in some cases. There is a related problem: we cannot know that it is the corresponding source, maybe backdoors were added by the manufacturer and not published in the source. This is true, which is why I think it's ever more important to not distribute anything in such a way, instead let the user modify it. I'm not sure what business model could Microsoft have for Windows without software installation. I don't think this would happen anytime soon, I was just trying to make an example wondering to show that one ROM'd system is no better than another. Anyway let me put it a different way. Should we expect to have access to the code that runs on your watch or microwave oven? I don't think it's too important for the most part. Take a digital watch for example. Assuming it doesn't have some sort of cell module that chimes back to a cell tower that spies on me, just a simple watch, what's the worst the developer could do? Tell you the wrong time??? In that case you'd just go get a new watch, or if it were an expensive watch demand a new one, this one is defective. So for a watch, or a microwave is another example, not having the source code, and having it loaded into a rom rather than modifiable memory is fine. So is there a line there? If so, what would it be? If it's not connected to a network it's fine? That can't be so because I agree with the example of the games that onpon4 gave. Perhaps the line should be it's okay to have it loaded in a rom and not have access to the source only if the developer can't exercise unjust power over you, but that would beg the question what would unjust power be?
[Trisquel-users] Antwort: WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working
Thank you for this guide. I'll copy this directly into my Setup Trisquel.odt. :P Why do I need the htc_9271.fw firmware, though? I did not have it installed but got Wi-Fi working by upgrading the kernel.
Re: [Trisquel-users] WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working
Not installed? The ath9k_htc_linux_driver package install script copied both the htc_7010.fw and htc_9271.fw files after the execution into the /lib/firmware folder, so are you sure?? The output of the ls /lib/firmware also showed that both of the files were in-place. The README file on the open-ath9k-htc-firmware GitHub page describes what are those AR7010/AR9271 NICs. The system needs the driver, which in turn requires the firmware for the respective chip in order to communicate with the chip(s) and making the device able to work. The reason to keep them both installed is to be able to use all of the ath9k_htc compatible wireless adapters, which are using different chipsets (a combination of one or two different chips), typically in a three different configurations: Atheros AR9271 alone Atheros AR7010+AR9280 Atheros AR7010+AR9287
Re: [Trisquel-users] Some blobs more equal than others?
First of all, how do I quote when I make a reply, a bit of a noob question but I don't know how to use the forums platform trisquel forums use, I'm use to phpBB lol. Just copy/paste what you wish to quote and prefix it with a
Re: [Trisquel-users] WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working
I tested those commands before posting them, and they just worked fine. It looks that the GRUB configuration was not refreshed after the older kernels was removed from the system. In the future, you can use the following command after fiddling with your Linux kernel: sudo update-grub If you want, I can post here the instructions on how to chroot into your system using your Trisquel formatted USB key. It's just a matter of some commands...
Re: [Trisquel-users] WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working
What about ordering the Unex adapter from one of the following sites: http://www.gongchang.com/DNUA_93F_802_11n_b_g_wifi_USB_adapter_UB93_AR9271-dp8674127/ or http://www.weiku.com/products/11222654/DNUA_93F_802_11n_b_g_wifi_USB_adapter_UB93_AR9271.html The stock price for one device is $1, so try to make an order from here, and if that's not possible, you should consider other similar device from different brands, like Onkyo, Sony, Philips, etc.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Some blobs more equal than others?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 This is a very interesting topic. Just because a program is non-modifiable, doesn't mean that it respects your freedom. Quite the opposite, in fact. The whole point of free software is to have the freedom to do your computing as you see fit. If a program is non-modifiable, this isn't possible. I don't know what the solution is. Maybe we should be against ROM chips? If all chips in a PC were flashable, and all the code that runs on these chips was available under a free license, it would be much easier for users to verify that there are no backdoors or malicious features. (Side note: I don't consider whether or not a program has access to the internet to be a factor in whether or not it respects freedom. A program that runs locally and makes no network connections can still be malicious). Of course, if the FSF took a hard stance against non-modifiable ROM, it would raise the interesting question of whether a ROM program is more or less free than an electronic circuit. After all, programs can be implemented with basic logic gates. There's clearly a line-drawing issue here somewhere. I don't buy the argument that CD-ROMs are different to BIOS chips wrt freedom. Yes, CD-ROMs often contain installers that copy programs to a hard drive, but they needn't, and don't always. It's entirely possible to run a binary directly from a CD-ROM. Should we accept proprietary software in this form simply because it cannot be modified? Of course not, and neither should we when it is distributed in the form of a ROM chip in a computer. (Also what about swappable chips?) Wrt old video game cartridges, it's a slightly different issue, but interesting nonetheless. I see the logic in comparing it to an audio CD. Insert and play, no loss of freedom. Or is there? When does something cease to be mere data, and become a program? The simplest definition is when that data is arranged in a format that would cause any commonly available processor to execute parts of its instruction set - which is exactly what a game cartridge does. An audio CD doesn't contain instructions, merely encoded audio data. I love topics like this - most would say it doesn't matter, but I find these issues intriguing. Thoughts? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlHjGKUACgkQgijxUCZnvltjtQD+Jxb6gxRpLVWt7VMurt8NVaBb 34ovK2WeTxDqwRkl4/UA+wUfUlxJZC1wWSVKXb0cDd6cM7LRvjww0gTg3MOkBlqw =y0M8 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Trisquel-users] WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working
You were right, I need the ath9k driver package. I did something wrong during the first fresh re-install. I first updated to the new kernel, and then I tried to run your install.sh script. This failed with some error because a file was not available. (I forgot to write it down...) In an overreaction I did not manually copy the files to the /lib/fw directory but re-installed the Trisquel again. This time I first copied the firmware files and then updated the kernel. I did not run the install.sh script. Everything works fine and I restart the computer. - Now, I pull the latest Trisquel updates and restart the computer again. - After that I ran 'sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic-lts-belenos' which executed without trouble. - After that I ran 'sudo apt-get remove linux-image-generic linux-image-3.2*' which prompted me again to free *445 MB*. This time I halted the command. Here's a screenshot: [] will update later, I have reached my CloudApp limit. It's German and says that the mentioned packages will be removed.
Re: [Trisquel-users] WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working
This is interesting! Are these manufacturer websites? I'd be glad to order directly from them. The other brands have just rebranded this one, right? I've never made such a purchase before. It will probably be a bit more paperwork and complicated regarding taxes. But that won't stop me.
Re: [Trisquel-users] jar-files
Is n't openjdk 7 already installed in Trisquel 6.0 ??
Re: [Trisquel-users] jar-files
On 07/14/2013 06:36 PM, chris.ar...@student.kuleuven.be wrote: Is n't openjdk 7 already installed in Trisquel 6.0 ?? Nope, but it's easy to install using Synaptic Package Manager. Just search it and install it. No need to use terminal. As for running the .jar files, you can simply right-click the files and then click Open With OpenJDK Java Runtime. I'm not sure if OpenJDK 7 is in the repository yet, but OpenJDK 6 is for sure.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Some blobs more equal than others?
On 15/07/13 06:18, jsabean wrote: First of all, how do I quote when I make a reply, a bit of a noob question but I don't know how to use the forums platform trisquel forums use, I'm use to phpBB lol. Hey! Are you jsbean on phpBB.com? (I used to frequent there as well). So is there a line there? If so, what would it be? If it's not connected to a network it's fine? That can't be so because I agree with the example of the games that onpon4 gave. Perhaps the line should be it's okay to have it loaded in a rom and not have access to the source only if the developer can't exercise unjust power over you, but that would beg the question what would unjust power be? DVD players are often not connected to networks and I would guess are ROM-based, and often they often play DVD ROMs. But I think they are still harmful because they promote DRM and make DVDs useless on computers without it. They also encourage hardware monopolies and take away the freedom of hardware manufacturers and tinkerers, as only manufacturers who are members of the DVD Forum are allowed access to the DRM specifications and secret keys. DVD DRM is broken now, but Blu-Ray is something else entirely... As I understand it, Blu-Ray disks can contain key updates and revocations, and some Blu-Ray manufacturers are now requiring an internet connection (but now I'm getting off-topic). Andrew.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Some blobs more equal than others?
Lets see if I get this quoting thing right. I guess it's more like email, makes since too I guess since I read on the forum index this is linked with a mailing list? Anyway, First to andrew: Hey! Are you jsbean on phpBB.com? (I used to frequent there as well). Yes I was jsbean on phpBB.com. I actually got my name changed to jsebean since jsbean was a typo. My real name is Jonah Sabean, jsebean (with an e) was the username my school gave me for the computer network login, this misspelled my last name and I've used it ever since lol. I use jsabean here because i registered jsebean but forgot the password and the email address I used doesn't work at the moment, a long story. Anyway I like reading back on stuff I posted on phpBB.com, gives me things to remember and shows how much I've learned since then lol. I haven't been there for a while now due to the hustle and bustle of life. Anyway back on track. You mention DVDs and DRM and I think you're still on topic, it's another good example and makes more sense than some of the examples I gave haha. To lloydsmart, I don't buy the argument that CD-ROMs are different to BIOS chips wrt freedom. Yes, CD-ROMs often contain installers that copy programs to a hard drive, but they needn't, and don't always. It's entirely possible to run a binary directly from a CD-ROM. Should we accept proprietary software in this form simply because it cannot be modified? Of course not, and neither should we when it is distributed in the form of a ROM chip in a computer. (Also what about swappable chips?) This is the exact reason why I don't see the difference between any ROM, be it CD, on the hardware or swappable. I'll provide an example: I'm not sure how many here has read the GNU GPL v3 (I have to be honest, I've never read v2 thoroughly, though I've done my best to read and understand v3). In section 6, a paragraph reads: If you convey an object code work under this section in, or with, or specifically for use in, a User Product, and the conveying occurs as part of a transaction in which the right of possession and use of the User Product is transferred to the recipient in perpetuity or for a fixed term (regardless of how the transaction is characterized), the Corresponding Source conveyed under this section must be accompanied by the Installation Information. But this requirement does not apply if neither you nor any third party retains the ability to install modified object code on the User Product (for example, the work has been installed in ROM). Let's say I make a GNU/Linux distro that I burn on a CD or DVD designed to be used for recovering PCs (such as you screwed up your boot loader, I know I've done that lots of times lol). It's not an installable distribution, it's simply intended to be booted live from the CD and used to recover a system, or any other use you may have to run from a CD rather than install on hard disk. If I understand correctly then, since I'm just distributing the OS on a CD-ROM and it's not modifiable by nature like it would be if it were installed on a disk, I'm not obligated to provide the source code according to this section of the GPL, since it's a ROM and not modifiable by anyone once burned. To try to modify it would just render it useless. Yet some of my software I put into this may be useful for others to use. Even though it is not possible for you to change the CD-ROM you got from me, you could make your own if you could obtain the source, or use it in any other project, not necessarily one similar to mine (that's the point of free software). For this reason, I think this part in section 6 of the GPL should be totally removed if it really strives to be a free license, because I think this is a non-free provision.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Boot Trisquel on computers without PAE
I finally got Trisquel 6.0 working on my Dell Inspiron 8600. I took the hard drive out of the Inspiron and put it in a Dell Latitude which reports PAE as one of the CPU's features, installed Trisquel on the drive, installed fake-pae, (link above, it may have worked anyway if I had not installed it.)
Re: [Trisquel-users] Is there a reasonable cloud storage method?
You COULD use Dropbox, Google Drive, Skydrive, or Ubuntu One if you had to in a pinch, but if you choose to do so, make sure the files are encrypted with a GPG key or something similar. They won't be able to open it on their server without the private key (even if the public key is on server) and the decryption can be done on your end.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Is there a reasonable cloud storage method?
Oops... I meant using GnuGPG to use PGP.
[Trisquel-users] live CD ask to log in
When i click try trisquel with out installing it load ut then it sk Me to log in why?? Whats the efault ID for a live CD
Re: [Trisquel-users] live CD ask to log in
On 07/14/2013 11:44 PM, r...@openmailbox.org wrote: When i click try trisquel with out installing it load ut then it sk Me to log in why?? Whats the efault ID for a live CD It shouldn't. Re-burn the iso on a new CD.
[Trisquel-users] how to know the specs of my pc
how can i know all the specifications of my PC from dekstop with out to have to open the cover of my pc?
Re: [Trisquel-users] how to know the specs of my pc
On 07/15/2013 12:09 AM, r...@openmailbox.org wrote: how can i know all the specifications of my PC from dekstop with out to have to open the cover of my pc? Not sure which exact specifications you are looking for, or how detailed you want them to be. For some simple specs, open System Monitor and click the System tab.
Re: [Trisquel-users] live CD ask to log in
but i checked the disk for errors and is with out errors, alsoe when i used it to install trisquel in my pc, it works fine...i love to compute in freedom...
Re: [Trisquel-users] live CD ask to log in
On 07/15/2013 12:18 AM, r...@openmailbox.org wrote: but i checked the disk for errors and is with out errors, alsoe when i used it to install trisquel in my pc, it works fine...i love to compute in freedom... Make sure you are booting from the disc and not the drive then. If the disc doesn't have any errors and it is still asking for a password there is nothing we can do about it.
Re: [Trisquel-users] jar-files
You don't need to use the terminal. Don't direct people to the terminal if you don't have to. Once you have OpenJDK, you can right click and choose to open the file with it, after which it will execute.
[Trisquel-users] Kleopatra errors: self-test error, can't change my own key's passphrase, can't search for certificates on key servers
Hi, I am new here. I downloaded Kleopatra from the repositories and installed it. Whenever I start Kleopatra, I got an error message about its 'self-test'. I have attached a screenshot picture with this post. When I created a new certificate, I can't set its passphrase. When I tried to change my certificate's passphrase after creating it, I got this error message. An error occurred while trying to change the passphrase for [my username]: Not supported I also can't look up certificates on servers. The search function is not working. What is the cause of these problems and how can I fix them? attachment: Screenshot from 2013-07-15 11:38:29.png
[Trisquel-users] Problems with booting and restarting Trisquel 6.0
Hello fellow Trisquel users, Sometimes when I boot Trisquel, the screen will go completely blank. Sometimes I can get to the login screen, but the screen will go blank after I enter my password. Sometimes I have to reboot the computer by force at least twice before I can boot Trisquel successfully. Trisquel also can't restart properly. Whenever I tell the computer to restart, the computer will shut down. When it tries to reboot, it will show a lot of white texts on the screen. I don't understand what they mean. Nothing happens after that. I usually have to force the computer to shut down and restart it manually. I used to use Windows on my computer before I switched to Trisquel. Do you think these problems are caused by hardware incompatibility? Should I buy a new computer for Trisquel? What are the causes of these problems and how can I fix them?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Problems with booting and restarting Trisquel 6.0
well is normal to have all those issues, it feels that your computer has a ghost... but first of all... did you checked your instalation disc for errors? alsoe all the white text is normal... i think is a incompatibility issue, but i dont suggest to buy a new computer... keep trying with the one that you have... enter to h-node.org and check if there are already some infor of incompatibility of your hardware and if theres nothing. please contribute and put a report of your problems there...
Re: [Trisquel-users] how to know the specs of my pc
what you suggested just tells me the procesor and memory, id like to know what mother board im using for example
Re: [Trisquel-users] how to know the specs of my pc
On 07/15/2013 01:11 AM, r...@openmailbox.org wrote: what you suggested just tells me the procesor and memory, id like to know what mother board im using for example For a big list of items get the package hardinfo from the Synaptic Package Manager. It's in the repository by default. Once you have it use alt+F2 and type hardinfo to get your specs.
