Re: [Trisquel-users] Where are all the security updates?
not only Trisquel, he has to manage even icecat as stated in a previous post in this forum.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Where are all the security updates?
@leny2010: I would love to answer you myself but basically greenman already wrote everything I wanted to write for me. ;-) @jxself: The last official comment is almost a month old now.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 6.0.1 (with recent updates) just hanged on me big time!
Thanks!
Re: [Trisquel-users] Where are all the security updates?
greenman you said what I want to say This is the truth with regret. I think we should Move to parabola
Re: [Trisquel-users] Where are all the security updates?
From: blade.vp2...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Trisquel-users] Where are all the security updates? Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 14:16:24 +0200 (CEST) greenman you said what I want to say This is the truth with regret. I think we should Move to parabola As Ruben indicated the delay is a temporary situation occasioned by him (and presumably Aklis) commissioning a new system. Thus if you want you can take temporary measures by reviewing the missing patches' announcements on ubuntu-security-announce and perhaps look up the CVEs on cert.org. So e.g. to take the openjdk-jre one, the package isn't Trisquelised so you could just do a point install by downloading the Ubuntu package. It'll be exactly the same package when it arrives in the Trisquel repo. For a typical personal PC/laptop user only the remote vulnerabilities are of concern. And even then unless you're using them in an Internet facing situation (e.g. browser, java plugin) then the risk is significantly mitigated for a typical end user because they're almost always behind a firewall. However, the reality is plenty of people ran Debian testing without security support and not a few longer delays than the current Trisquel ones for security patches for years without adverse effects. Yes, it's not a good situation, but as I've said elsewhere - it's not terrible either - DON'T PANIC.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Where are all the security updates?
Where is this new infrastructure Ruben talked about? If people are going to help out, there needs to be some code, but I don't see it.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 6.0.1 (with recent updates) just hanged on me big time!
I used to have this problem, and I think it had to do with the intel graphics driver. I think installing the trusty lts enablement stack fixed it, and i have not had this problem with Trisquel 7.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 6.0.1 (with recent updates) just hanged on me big time!
Where is that trusty lts enablement stack?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 6.0.1 (with recent updates) just hanged on me big time!
sudo apt-get install linux-generic-lts-trusty
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 6.0.1 (with recent updates) just hanged on me big time!
What stuff does it do to decrease the chances of it happening it again?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 6.0.1 (with recent updates) just hanged on me big time!
Already installing it but I still want to know how it will solve my problem. Thanks!
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 6.0.1 (with recent updates) just hanged on me big time!
That would depend on your hardware, but I know that my laptop needs a newer kernel than 3.2 or else it randomly locks up, for example. Installing a newer kernel is just something to try.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 6.0.1 (with recent updates) just hanged on me big time!
Ah, I got my laptop last year in August. Can my hardware take the kernel?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 6.0.1 (with recent updates) just hanged on me big time!
Hm? Linux generally doesn't regress in terms of hardware compatibility. That would be a bug.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Where are all the security updates?
From: legimet.c...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Trisquel-users] Where are all the security updates? Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 15:47:44 +0200 (CEST) Where is this new infrastructure Ruben talked about? If people are going to help out, there needs to be some code, but I don't see it. The bones of it are documented in the now defunct Developer Meeting IRC logs here https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/developer-meetings Given I can only help bits of the time I haven't pestered Ruben for updates on it since. So e.g. jxself, Thinkpenguin Chris or SirGrant might well know a lot more about what shape the idea has now. But the plans were for a tailored gitorious instance and a new separate community repo. Aklis was tasked with the gitorious instance. So with the community repos AFAIK you personally wouldn't need to put your Abrowser KDE mods in a PPA, Trisquel would be capable of hosting it for you. I dunno your IT background so the following might be teaching my grandmother to suck eggs. To answer your question, where is the code? AFAICT in the process of commissioning not development. Replacing or adding to a current live system with a new one based on the final copy of the live data is always a tricky business no matter how carefully one plans. There's nearly always a stoppage for final testing and unanticipated stuff which turns up and takes additional time no matter how careful you are beforehand. In terms of real life business systems, going live transferring to a new system like this over only a weekend is really good work for a whole team at SME size. There'd be a lot more complaints and fallout if a new system was commissioned and it had bugs and data errors (e.g. a three week old package repo) which resulted in a prolonged period of unreliable service. These days there can't be alphas and betas for an extant distro repo of course. So contrary to what some people seem to think this delay is probably proper quality professionalism in the face of very limited 'IT department' resources. The official launch date (i.e. when its intended you can use the new function) and documentation may or may not come at the same time as it goes live (i.e. when patches start flowing properly again). Depends how Ruben has it scheduled, it might be a Belenos release date announcement thing based on his assessment of bangs for the buck for supporting alpha/beta during Belenos development. So you personally might have to find him and ask if you want to use it straight away. But really someone like you should be able to work it out from just having the relevant hostnames if they're anything like decent web services. The above is just from general principles and a bit of published info. As I say others who, unlike me, are 'in' the team (jxself, aklis, sirgrant et al) might well know a lot more - it's just that, as I'm sure you'll agree, getting the system live and testing it is a lot more important than answering our questions which just slow the process down if they're involved at all. Which for the benefit of unhappy onlookers is why Ruben doesn't talk to us much. It once took me three months to develop an ~8K line billing system in a language I can mean over 300 lines a day in over an entire project when it's just me (you would too, it never was worth spending the time to learn to code VB at full speed). The rest of the time was spent dealing with the boss as he explained his latest great idea for the system (which was always in the spec I'd given him). Similarly wanting Ruben to talk to us more and wanting more from the distro are mutually incompatible, IMO he's doing the right thing ignoring us.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 6.0.1 (with recent updates) just hanged on me big time!
Also https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/installing-latest-backported-kernel-and-xserver
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 6.0.1 (with recent updates) just hanged on me big time!
I don't know.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 6.0.1 (with recent updates) just hanged on me big time!
Done, thanks! Also I've been getting this lately, and not just lately, even a long time ago. https://mediacru.sh/Kg38ScHnX6SB Does that happen to you guys too? What's up with it?
[Trisquel-users] How do I save sessions in Abrowser?
How do I save sessions in Abrowser?
Re: [Trisquel-users] How do I save sessions in Abrowser?
use session manager extension
Re: [Trisquel-users] Where are all the security updates?
I really agree with greenman, though I don't know how sensible it is to state criticism here. In fact, it's rubens project and if he wants to stick with the current state, then so it will be. Trisquel is right on top of my list of distros with great potential, but it will remain on my experimental pc's until there is a big change in development structure. I really don't understand many things... if ruben is lacking time, why not drop such tasks like implement tor features in icecat? There is the tor browser bundle, so why bothering with something like this while security updates are drying out? Why giving speeches nobody ever hears? And i like the design of trisquel, but I could live with standard gnome-fallback if this creates more space for frequent security updates. I know some one man-projects when it comes to software. Normally, the developer is the most active and reachable member of the board. Maybe I had already become a member if there weren't those doubts... well, let's see what future brings. Basically, trisquel is just ubuntu with removed packages and a pimped gnome-fallback. I'm not underestimating this - clearly it's quite a task -, but let's not forget this when talking about workload.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Where are all the security updates?
I agree with you, the developer should be reachable and not ignore everyone. This is a free software project, and people should be able to contribute. If you look at trisquel-devel, the last post was in July. I think people have realized that submitting patches is futile because Ruben never looks at them.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Where are all the security updates?
@jxself: The last official comment is almost a month old now. I don't think anything has changed. :)
Re: [Trisquel-users] Where are all the security updates?
From: legimet.c...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Trisquel-users] Where are all the security updates? Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 23:07:43 +0200 (CEST) I agree with you, the developer should be reachable and not ignore everyone. This is a free software project, and people should be able to contribute. If you look at trisquel-devel, the last post was in July. I think people have realized that submitting patches is futile because Ruben never looks at them. Hang on, I've had one patch accepted in the past and think I understand why my few others weren't. Also you've mentioned some of your patches have been accepted off list. So Ruben does look at them. Ruben's communications behaviour might well appear lamentable, and there will be better communicators in the free software world, perhaps many. But he admitted to missing some patches in the first developer meeting so he'll have fixed that and the evidence above is he has. So if some of your patches haven't been accepted - he'll have his reasons.
