Re: [Trisquel-users] LibrePlanet Brisbane meeting

2014-11-21 Thread davesamcdxv

My dad's there.and he's leaving today :(


Re: [Trisquel-users] Penguin Wireless N USB Adapter Love it!

2014-11-21 Thread davesamcdxv

US$44.00 https://www.thinkpenguin.com/catalog/wireless-networking-gnulinux


Re: [Trisquel-users] Goodbye Trisquel

2014-11-21 Thread shiretoko

'Debian is neither the oldest distro'

But the oldest one with a significant userbase.

'nor the sole domain of freedom loving developers.'

That depends on what you call 'freedom loving'. However, it is the only big  
distro which can be used in freedom, offering a 100% free repository.






Re: [Trisquel-users] Touchpad

2014-11-21 Thread reaganhunt
So far I have been using the Synaptic Package Manager to search for  
touchpad and testing all of the available packages with no luck. Is there  
any way to find out which one I should be installing for my particular  
system?


I tinkered around with the synaptiks touchpad program in the accessories menu  
but wasn't able to configure it to work any better.


https://h-node.org/notebooks/view/en/1135/MacBook-2-1---Mac-F4208CAA/1/1/undef/undef/undef/undef/undef/undef/undef/macbook

I found this link (my MacBook is actually model 3.1) and I noticed at the  
bottom it says you need kernel version 3.15 for the touchpad to be pleasant  
to use. I have worked out Trisquel is using 3.13. So am I right that  
different distributions use different versions of the Linux kernel and there  
is no way to currently use 3.15 with Trisquel?


I'm starting to think the only way to have a smoother experience will be to  
get a USB mouse. Could you recommend a good cheap one? Or will most mouses  
work ok?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Goodbye Trisquel

2014-11-21 Thread davesamcdxv
To be awfully, annoyingly (sorry) exact GnewSense pretty much counts as a  
copy of one of its editions and Trisquel not too far from being that, and  
Arch (to which Parabola is tagged in very much the same way, I think) isn't  
exactly small.:)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Goodbye Trisquel

2014-11-21 Thread davesamcdxv
To be awfully, annoyingly (sorry) exact GnewSense pretty much counts as a  
copy of one of its editions and Trisquel not too far from being that, and  
Arch (to which Parabola is tagged in very much the same way, I think) isn't  
exactly small.:)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Goodbye Trisquel

2014-11-21 Thread shiretoko
'To be awfully, annoyingly (sorry) exact GnewSense pretty much counts as a  
copy of one of its editions and Trisquel not too far from being that'


Yeah, that makes my point. What do you want to express with that besides the  
fact that debian dominates the free software world?


 'Arch (to which Parabola is tagged in very much the same way, I think) isn't  
exactly small.:)'


No, Arch isn't exactly small but you can't use it in freedom. You can use  
parabola but this distro is...right, small!
My point was that debian is the only big free software distro, and everything  
you said shows just that.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Touchpad

2014-11-21 Thread onpon4

There's a PPA for newer versions of Linux-libre:

http://jxself.org/linux-libre/


Re: [Trisquel-users] Touchpad

2014-11-21 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp
Are you on Trisquel 7 or 6? You can find out what version of the kernel  
you're on with e.g. the commanduname -r


Most if not all USB mice will work. On the other hand if you want to get  
working Bluetooth there's a few options here guaranteed to work with free  
software https://www.thinkpenguin.com/catalog/wireless-networking-gnulinux If  
you follow their link on the right hand side of this page, they will donate  
part of their profits to Trisquel.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Touchpad

2014-11-21 Thread eemeli . blasten
The Macbook touchpad needs a lot of fine-tuning to make it comfortable to  
use. I installed libreboot on mine (from 2008) and spent half a week trying  
to find proper settings.


I ended up with the Xorg settings described at the end of the section on  
Macbook 2.1: http://libreboot.org/docs/hcl/index.html#macbook21





Re: [Trisquel-users] Goodbye Trisquel

2014-11-21 Thread davidvargas1

salparadise

 You are right! slackware, has a lot of white hairs, it is one of the oldest  
one early 1993.
Dammed I been rap up with Trisquel, unfortunatly my first official distro  
ever introduced for almost 2 years. is time to move on


[Trisquel-users] Is this ARM64 Open Laptop Concept a free hardware notebook?

2014-11-21 Thread svhaab

http://wiki.vero-apparatus.com/ARM64OpenLaptopConcept

Is this fsf free hardware? What is performance compared to a x86 duo core  
mainboard? There is the matter of the gpu, is it solvable by adding a free  
hardware gpu?


Re: [Trisquel-users] long-term sustainability of Trisquel -- what if we lose core developers?

2014-11-21 Thread davidvargas1

SuperTramp83

 None taken, you have a point.

Here is a list of common bugs that I encounter.

 I did tried trisquel 7 in dualboot before, the machine I was uisng had  
already trisquel 6, most parts as video card, WIFI are hardware purchase from  
thinkpenguin store working flawless on my 1-5.


  The problems, that I encounter was a few nasty one's, the VIDEO was choppy,  
the sound was non existent and when trying to connect to the Lan did  not  
recognized the MOTHER BOARD nickcard. That includes the WIFI.


 The version  of Trisquel 7, that I downloaded, was the experimental one. For  
that reason, I won't even get close to trisquel 7, until the bugs are squash.  
and exterminated.


 Another issue was on trisquel 6 updates, I did not like the DEVELOPER  
TOTALIRISM AND HIS DEFINITION OF FREE how the user should use A-BROWSER.


I should be the one user deciding, what I want! Specially, when it comes to  
how; should enhance and secure my browsing experience.


I believe the user, should have the tools and means of information PUBLICLY  
AVAILABLE TO BE read at ANYTIME, not embedded onto the browser, which is  
controlled by the developer in some dark, HUMID AND mystical SPANIARD WINE  
cellar


 Lucky for me, some friends show me, how to navigate around that type and  
kind of browsing totalirism experience. My friends indicated that some  
developers suffer from lack of brain equilibrium.


Remenber, that trisquel was first official distro, ever used. Since then I  
have grown into it and yes, I'm piss at that crazy conquistador..


respectfully, This is just my opinion.


Re: [Trisquel-users] long-term sustainability of Trisquel -- what if we lose core developers?

2014-11-21 Thread davesamcdxv
Well, we're free to use debootstrap/netinstall to perform an installation  
(i.e. without browser to begin with) - and you can install  
Icecat/Midori/Epiphany/links/etc and/or remove Abrowser even from a LiveCD  
installation so I don't see any kind of freedom breached to begin with  
browser-wise.


Quidam gives you what he think is best but you can change it (or just use  
debootstrap) and he won't have a right to stop you from doing it.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Is this ARM64 Open Laptop Concept a free hardware notebook?

2014-11-21 Thread davesamcdxv

I hope it's free..

...But, anyway, it's not a laptop..yet.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Goodbye Trisquel

2014-11-21 Thread davesamcdxv
Yes, I do realise that (which is why I wrote sorry - because of how rather  
pointless the rest of the post was going to be :)


Anyway, install the your-freedom package and I reckon Arch can be used in  
freedom.


And, personally, I count free 'clones' of big distros effectively as big as  
(and pretty much almost exactly the same as otherwise) whatever was taken  
from upstream (i.e. GnewSense=Debian 6, Trisquel= Its editions' respective  
Ubuntu version upstream, Parabola=Arch, BLAG=whatever version of Fedora a  
version of it is based on, etc)


So in my book Parabola and GnewSense are pretty big - not that I expect  
anybody to agree with me on such a measure of a distro's size (though I still  
think it's the most technically relevant way of doing so in terms of which  
forum pages to search through to solve problems, which distro to enter in the  
search engine when solving problems/finding out whether something is  
supported, which Wiki and guides to read, whether a PPA can be used on a  
particular edition of Trisquel, and more importantly what (versions of)  
packages are in the repos, etc). For example, I install Parabola by reading  
the Archwiki, solve problems in GnewSense by searching XYZ problem debian  
squeeze, and a Trisquel 7 problem by searching ZAB problem ubuntu trusty,  
and it seems to serve me well.


Re: [Trisquel-users] desktop freezes when trying to use compiz in Trisquel 7

2014-11-21 Thread arielgnu
You were right guys, compton was the problem, killing the process does help  
:)


davidnotcoulthard , I didn't want to uninstall compton, I will like to leave  
one Trisquel session untouched.


Sachin, editing trisquel-desktop.session line:

RequiredComponents=gnome-panel;gnome-settings-daemon;gnome-screensaver;metacity;

with

RequiredComponents=gnome-panel;gnome-settings-daemon;gnome-screensaver;compiz;

Seems not to be enough. When I tried to log using that session  
Exec=gnome-session --session=gnome-compiz the desktop simply did not start.


What I've been doing is start compiz --replace on my start up applications.  
So I guess that could work for now.


Thank you all for your help :)


Re: [Trisquel-users] long-term sustainability of Trisquel -- what if we lose core developers?

2014-11-21 Thread davidvargas1
Do you have a guide or documentation for this recommendation you are  
suggesting?

Respectfully


Re: [Trisquel-users] typeahead (interactive search) one key delay

2014-11-21 Thread arielgnu

Sachin was able to help me :)
I'm really grateful.

So the problem had something to do with the ibus-daemon, I decided to kill it  
by adding killall ibus-daemon to my stat up applications.


As long as you don't use different keyboard layouts (or need to type in a  
phonetic language such as Japanese using English letters) I think it is fine  
to disable it.


Thank you all.


[Trisquel-users] Re : typeahead (interactive search) one key delay

2014-11-21 Thread lcerf
IBus can create troubles. I had some with Emacs. You need not kill the IBus  
daemon at startup though! Just choose none as an input system in the first  
tab of Language support (my translation from French: it might be called  
otherwise) in System settings.


[Trisquel-users] No Handbrake in Belenos?

2014-11-21 Thread mtlben
Handbrake - a very convenient DVD ripping program - was available in  
Toutatis, but I can't find it in Belenos:


http://packages.trisquel.info/search?suite=defaultsection=allarch=anysearchon=nameskeywords=handbrake

Is the program nonfree or is this an oversight?


Re: [Trisquel-users] IceDove replaced Thunderbird.

2014-11-21 Thread tesseract
I seem to recall there being an issue installing Lightning for this version  
of Icedove. Does anyone have experience with this?


Re: [Trisquel-users] No Handbrake in Belenos?

2014-11-21 Thread Andrew Lindley
Please open an Issue/Bug - handbrake for Toutatis was taken from a
ppa.  From Trusty onwards it's in Universe so the Trisquel
arrangements need changing.


[Trisquel-users] Re : No Handbrake in Belenos?

2014-11-21 Thread mtlben

Done: https://trisquel.info/fr/issues/12882

Thanks!


Re: [Trisquel-users] typeahead (interactive search) one key delay

2014-11-21 Thread arielgnu

Cool, thanks, I just couldn't find that option before.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Touchpad

2014-11-21 Thread reaganhunt

uname -r
3.13.0-39-lowlatency

Eemeli, were the Xorg settings you ended with decent enough?

This setting looks like what I need:

# The next two values determine how much pressure one needs
# for tapping, moving the cursor and other events.
 Option FingerLow 10
 Option FingerHigh 15

How do I get to these settings? I haven't seen some of these in the system  
settings. Command line?


Re: [Trisquel-users] JavaScript code must be eliminated, not just made free

2014-11-21 Thread niknyby
What kinds of clients do you work with? I work for a university, so my  
clients are usually non-profit organizations or faculty members. They have no  
problem with releasing all the code I write for them under the GPL.


[Trisquel-users] The Almost Completely Open Source Laptop Goes on Sale

2014-11-21 Thread blade . vp2020

Is this fsf free hardware?
http://www.wired.com/2014/04/novena/



Re: [Trisquel-users] Goodbye Trisquel

2014-11-21 Thread jadonplevesque

Well, I reccommend Gnewsense or Parabola, rather than Debian.
Debian isn't the worst thing ever, at least. It has a non-free repository,  
though, so be cautious. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Goodbye Trisquel

2014-11-21 Thread davesamcdxv

Well, Parabola'supdates come a wee bit often.

And if you want Debian 7 you can't go for GnewSense...(when will they  
start their Wheezy-based version?)


Re: [Trisquel-users] The Almost Completely Open Source Laptop Goes on Sale

2014-11-21 Thread jason
Is it eligible to get the FSF's RYF certification? In order to give it their  
stamp of approval in the form of that Respects Your Freedom logo, the  
software for the graphics hardware needs to be worked out. They raised money  
for as a stretch goal in the crowdfunding campaign. Once (if?) the graphics  
hardware is worked out to make it sufficient... then the question becomes the  
distro it ships with. Probably Debian GNU/Linux. In addition to the graphics  
they'd need to swap out the distro for an FSF-approved one. None of them  
currently support ARM though. This is the same issue that prevented the  
Lemote Yeeloong from being able to get the FSF's RYF certification because  
Lemote didn't ship it with, say, gNewSense and the FSF can give it their  
stamp of approval if they can't give the software that ships with it their  
stamp of approval. Hopefully at least one of the FSF-endorsed distrosw ill  
add support for this CPU architecture.


Re: [Trisquel-users] IceDove replaced Thunderbird.

2014-11-21 Thread davesamcdxv

Actually, the one for Wheezy works as well, so try that instead.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Goodbye Trisquel

2014-11-21 Thread jadonplevesque
Not too long ago the big question was When will they start their  
Trusty-based version?

(I jest, I jest...)


Re: [Trisquel-users] IceDove replaced Thunderbird.

2014-11-21 Thread tesseract

And there it is! Thanks much developers et al!


[Trisquel-users] Trisquel in Eee Pc 2 Gb hard drive

2014-11-21 Thread rova
The trisquel live usb and the Mini live usb load nicely, even the wifi works!  
but i just have 2 Gb of space! what the hell i was thinking when i bought  
this crap many years ago, i had it in the closet with out use, but im very  
poor now and i need this machine to work ! what could i do? this is the exact  
machine that i have  
http://www.amazon.com/7-Inch-Display-Mobile-Processor-Preloaded/dp/B00114T9WY  
 i feel like crap


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel in Eee Pc 2 Gb hard drive

2014-11-21 Thread jadonplevesque

The device only came with 2GB. I don't understand the problem.
You could use an external USB for extra storage, or an SD card, etc, etc.