Re: [Trisquel-users] using fluxbox does not read proper keymap

2015-02-11 Thread cromozon

nope, doesn't work :(

I Tried your suggestion of adding setxkbmap dk before exit 0 in  
/etc/gdm/Init/Default


and was about to add XKBLAYOUT=dk to /etc/default/keyboard, but it was  
already there :(


I also Do have Danish keybaord using the terminal via ctrl+alt+F1


Re: [Trisquel-users] I am looking to build my first computer.

2015-02-11 Thread adel . afzal
Has anyone bought from InaTux?  They sell desktop PCs with a free BIOS, and  
the hardware is free software compatible.


http://inatux.com/?gnu




Re: [Trisquel-users] very good documentary

2015-02-11 Thread garsmith
Their is a lot of videos out there like this. Many of them are good. Most of  
them have good and bad parts. Watch a lot of them and get your own picture.  
Your view will change over time the more you see. Be interested, be open,  
have a open mind to be able to change your view when new information comes  
your way. Dont forget to be skeptical because their is a lot of crap out  
there. Something maybe is true today but with more information that will  
change, and the new truth will also change and morph over time. See from the  
angel the information comes from and what image the creator of the  
documentary/film try to paint so you absorb it easier.


A tip is look at the things that today is not acceptable according to  
education and media. Their you will find a lot of interesting things. The  
things education, media and politicians is saying over and over and over  
again is often lies that needs to be alive. Same with things that never gets  
to the news or is always painted in a certain way or some specific facts is  
always ignored in the reporting. As in the book 1984 where the telescreen  
says who you hate.


Ignorance is a bliss and it is rampant today. But at the same time people  
also start questioning more even when more TV series, movies, sport, ignore  
reality, things to do is so much more today. Very interesting times we live  
in...



Do the Trisquel team like tin foil conspiracy nut case movies being  
recommended in their forum?


For me this is a The troll hole and not Trisquel user thread.


[Trisquel-users] Who of you uses Posteo?

2015-02-11 Thread gary02121993
Who of you already using Posteo for as their webmail service? How is it? I'm  
thinking of applying, seems worthy! Especially that it's been featured in FSF  
news. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] I am looking to build my first computer.

2015-02-11 Thread tomlukeywood

from the inatux page:
We can build systems with Coreboot as the BIOS, but there will be some  
limitations


they can flash coreboot but coreboot by default contains some non-free blobs

so it might not be a fully free bios

it would still be better than the completely non-free bios
that comes with the system though


Re: [Trisquel-users] RMS:There's A Systematic Effort To Attack GNU Packages:

2015-02-11 Thread garsmith
My comment regarding RMS comment A Systematic Effort To Attack GNU  
Packages.


The system want power over the people at every level and that is why it  
removes  and attacks alternatives for freedom outside of the system. In  
Sweden example the propaganda is hard regarding getting rid of cash. Majority  
of bank office now dont accept cash. With credit card you identify with your  
person and that card can be shut down and you can be cut of from all your  
money at any second. Same with smart meters in homes (Everything called smart  
is in reality bad for people but good for the system), cameras everywhere,  
black boxes in cars, remote disable cars, listen through mobile phones in  
rooms. Printers have their yellow dot syndrome/feature. Maybe to track  
terrorist leaflets source.


Why would not the system also attack the only realistic alternative (.i  
know...) to freedom in computers at peoples homes? Their is probably more  
security holes but not known TO THE PUBLIC in GNU+Linux. I would surprised if  
GNU+Linux did not have known security holes in the code or deliberately added  
by the system. I would not be surprised with Intels Boot Guard lock is a  
attempt to block Free Software by force because CoreBoot/Libreboot now start  
working on newer and newer hardware and removing some spy features from the  
system.


The system is a parasite and lives on the peoples work. We work and they  
take the profit of it and parasite on us. The system is depending on us but  
we are not depending on us. They are holding us down and deliberately try to  
destroy and remove everything that give the people freedom from the  
system/parasite. They must hold us down because if they wouldnt they would  
die. This if why big corporations and big government want to control  
everything. This is why huge taxes and just crap in return. Less money for  
you and then depended on what the government give you for health service,  
pension, education (indoctrination) and more.


Re: [Trisquel-users] using fluxbox does not read proper keymap

2015-02-11 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp

Would this be of use?

http://fluxbox-wiki.org/category/howtos/en/Switch_Keyboard_layout.html


Re: [Trisquel-users] My family has smart TVs and I am scared.

2015-02-11 Thread tomlukeywood
i dont know if they would sell it as in some countries include the usa by law  
the data must be given to the security agencys like the NSA


Re: [Trisquel-users] using fluxbox does not read proper keymap

2015-02-11 Thread cromozon

thanks SuperTramp

Turning of Ibos did the trick :)

Lembas, thanks for the link also, As supertramps suggestion already solved my  
problem.

I think I will leave it at that.


Re: [Trisquel-users] I am looking to build my first computer.

2015-02-11 Thread Michał Masłowski
See any post about AMD GPUs on this forum.  Their computers are not
free software compatible and their BIOS is not free.


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Re: [Trisquel-users] very good documentary

2015-02-11 Thread maestro
this should be placed in the t-hole being off topic, not because it is a  
conspiracy documentary/movie. I just finished re-watching it - if you  
exclude the last five minutes of the video (microchip - that is a story told  
by a guy and doesn't prove anything nor it is supported by facts) Zeitgeist  
is excellent. And it contains no conspiracy. Plain facts. It's even better  
then how I remembered it. Especially the third part - the creation of debt.  
Highly recommended! 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Eric S. Raymond Calls LLVM The Superior Compiler To GCC and defending GCC is futile

2015-02-11 Thread maestro

he didn't! he said that someone else did


Re: [Trisquel-users] using fluxbox does not read proper keymap

2015-02-11 Thread cromozon

I just tried to login as guest... and Then I do have Danish keyboard...


Re: [Trisquel-users] using fluxbox does not read proper keymap

2015-02-11 Thread maestro
builcomplete - my keyboard was having issues when I switched to Trisquel 3  
months ago. Solved it by going to
System settings - Language support - the last entry keyboard input method  
system has to be changed to none (Ibus is the default)

cheers


Re: [Trisquel-users] Who of you uses Posteo?

2015-02-11 Thread maestro

openmailbox.org
tutanota.de


Re: [Trisquel-users] advice moving to free software

2015-02-11 Thread davesamcdxv

Oohhh..:)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Question about thinkpenguin:

2015-02-11 Thread adel . afzal

Think Penguin has very good customer support


Re: [Trisquel-users] Eric S. Raymond Calls LLVM The Superior Compiler To GCC and defending GCC is futile

2015-02-11 Thread tegskywalker
I never called it a piece of shit personally. If you actually went through  
and read the mailing lists entries and the responses, you would get the  
impression that there is a lot of negativity towards GCC in favor of LLVM.  
Eric S. Raymond pretty much said GCC was irrelevant now and he wouldn't  
notice it gone and one maintainer said that he is going to put in LLVM  
support and doesn't care about RMS' and the FSF's ideology.


So in summary, if English isn't your primary language like others on this  
board, piece of shit is a sensationalized description of what those people  
mean.


Re: [Trisquel-users] question about tables in html

2015-02-11 Thread jbar

It's not a table border what you see in that html, but a td border.

As rakyi said, is in line 46


th, td {
border: 1px solid #000;
padding: 0.5em;
}



Re: [Trisquel-users] Who of you uses Posteo?

2015-02-11 Thread jozape

I
 have been using Openmailbox and am satisfied with it, so I doubt I will
 make the move at least during this semester, but I like that Posteo
uses free scripting for their website and uses Greenpeace energy. The
only con I see is no claim of using free software to develop their
service like Openmailbox does; though, Openmailbox uses nonfree
scripting for their website, but I can circumvent that problem with Icedove.


Re: [Trisquel-users] question about tables in html

2015-02-11 Thread shiretoko

http://csszengarden.com/

Old page and more for the sake of demonstration, but i like it very much.
Go css all the way, it's so much better than tables.


Re: [Trisquel-users] I am looking to build my first computer.

2015-02-11 Thread mail
Um. IdaTux is linked on the FSF website, so they are free software  
compatbile.


Re: [Trisquel-users] I am looking to build my first computer.

2015-02-11 Thread tegskywalker
I tried getting one of those last year for my AMD FX-8350, but they were  
either out of stock and if they were in stock, horribly outdated and around  
the same price as newer models that had more features.


Re: [Trisquel-users] occupygpl.org wants to make copyleft licenses go away

2015-02-11 Thread shiretoko

And please don't downvote t3g's post just because you disagree with his link.
The voting feature is not supposed to be used like that.


Re: [Trisquel-users] occupygpl.org wants to make copyleft licenses go away

2015-02-11 Thread onpon4
This website does not deserve any attention. Moreover, the fact that it tries  
to compare itself to Occupy Wall Street is insulting. It's rather more like  
the Tea Party.


I've heard an anecdote suggesting that companies find it funny that they can  
take permissively licensed software, use it to enhance their proprietary  
software, and give nothing back. I don't know whether or not this is true,  
but even if it isn't, it's exactly the sort of thing permissive licenses  
invite. All this crap about copyleft being some sort of injustice because  
corporations don't have the freedom to take away the freedom of their  
users? It strikes me the same as when the ultra-rich complain about not  
having freedom to exploit workers, the environment, the economy, etc to  
make themselves even richer.


Re: [Trisquel-users] RMS:There's A Systematic Effort To Attack GNU Packages:

2015-02-11 Thread J.B. Nicholson-Owens

dool...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi J.B., it may be just me but the Bradley Kuhn webm talk is corrupt in
some way. It basically stops working when he is on slide 10 ... any
ideas? Thanks.


Try downloading the file and playing it with VLC or mplayer. Either of 
these players ought to skip past the corrupted parts and keep playing.


If the file is corrupted, that would be an issue for the website 
hosters, not me. I recommend contacting the people who run linux.conf.au 
asking them to see if the mirrors are corrupt and giving them whatever 
evidence of file corruption you have.


Another alternative is to check the mirror at 
http://mirror.slingshot.co.nz/pub/linux.conf.au/2015/Case_Room_2/Thursday/Considering_the_Future_of_Copyleft_How_Will_The_Next_Generation_Perceive_GPL.webm 
and see if that works better.


When I downloaded the copy at 
http://mirror.linux.org.au/pub/linux.conf.au/2015/Case_Room_2/Thursday/Considering_the_Future_of_Copyleft_How_Will_The_Next_Generation_Perceive_GPL.webm 
I get SHA-1 hash 801d54b687472bc29d9461182e0b6ca0f0452fba. I don't know 
if that's the correct hash for the file because I see no hash listing.


[Trisquel-users] occupygpl.org wants to make copyleft licenses go away

2015-02-11 Thread tegskywalker

http://www.occupygpl.org

Just saw this on the /freesoftware Reddit. Not sure if a joke or not.



[Trisquel-users] Re : RMS:There's A Systematic Effort To Attack GNU Packages:

2015-02-11 Thread lcerf
I very much doubt rms is talking about an attack from the system. In fact,  
I think rms would tell you are are talking about different topics that ought  
to be treated separately.


Like J.B. Nicholson-Owens, I think rms suspects Apple behind the current  
actions against the copyleft. http://www.occupygpl.org certainly is the best  
example. You can find relevant comments on that website in this thread:  
https://www.reddit.com/r/freesoftware/comments/2verea/occupy_gpl_the_movement_to_encourage_the_usage_of


Re: [Trisquel-users] occupygpl.org wants to make copyleft licenses go away

2015-02-11 Thread Casey Parker
The problem with Copyleft is that it encourages things like FreeBSD vs. Mac
OSX. The only reason OSX works out of the box and FreeBSD is no better for
it, is that Apple keeps the useful bits to themselves. It defeats the
opensource purpose.

On Wed Feb 11 2015 at 6:04:48 PM danigaritaro...@gmail.com wrote:

 If I were a developer would prefer a copy-left license, this way I can sell
 exceptions and at least get paid if I'm going to help non-free software
 development.



Re: [Trisquel-users] occupygpl.org wants to make copyleft licenses go away

2015-02-11 Thread tegskywalker
Thanks. I wanted to start a conversation on here just in case you may or may  
have missed this information earlier.


Re: [Trisquel-users] occupygpl.org wants to make copyleft licenses go away

2015-02-11 Thread shiretoko
Why care about people who don't understand a thing or don't want to  
understand;
i could just as well read the google company manifesto or something like  
that...


Just because you're not allowed to use code by some developer and close it up  
doesn't mean that this developer has suddenly power over you / is controlling  
your life.

Hence your freedom has *not* been taken away, period.
It just means that this piece of software won't help you to gain unethical  
control over other people.


Re: [Trisquel-users] occupygpl.org wants to make copyleft licenses go away

2015-02-11 Thread mail
Hm. Let's all take a quick look at the https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/x.html  
(X Window System Trap.)
This Occupy GPL thing pretty much goes by the Let's save the village by  
burning it strategy...


Re: [Trisquel-users] occupygpl.org wants to make copyleft licenses go away

2015-02-11 Thread danigaritarojas
If I were a developer would prefer a copy-left license, this way I can sell  
exceptions and at least get paid if I'm going to help non-free software  
development.


Re: [Trisquel-users] I am looking to build my first computer.

2015-02-11 Thread onpon4
AMD (or ATI) cards are compatible, sure, but they're crap. You won't get  
any 3-D acceleration with them, in particular.


I do wonder what kinds of CPUs they ship, though. If the Intel CPUs are  
somewhat recent, the AMD card added in would make the system worse, because  
the Intel integrated GPU would certainly be better.


Re: [Trisquel-users] very good documentary

2015-02-11 Thread Casey Parker
Guys, you're making us all look a little unintelligent. Study up on
scientific theory and statistics, and don't ever forget that the onus of
proof is on the one suggesting something is fact. If you watch something
like Zeitgeist and then ask others to Prove it's not true - you're
essentially the sort of person who would pay for a bear-repelling jacket
(normal jacket) because you can't prove it isn't why you aren't being
attacked by bears. It's entertaining, it's got absolutely nothing to do
with opensource or facts, and it can stop now.

On Wed Feb 11 2015 at 10:44:50 AM davidvarg...@mac.com wrote:

 The documentary is just a lame duck movie, I don't see any value,
 motivation on that lame movie..Ill rather drink my tequila while reading
 Shakespeare, instead of wasting my time with a lame duck movie..I'm
 Clicking
 back to my shot of tequila and my Shakespeare.



Re: [Trisquel-users] Eric S. Raymond Calls LLVM The Superior Compiler To GCC and defending GCC is futile

2015-02-11 Thread Casey Parker
Ideologically, LLVM is diametrically opposed to Trisquel.

On Wed Feb 11 2015 at 10:34:49 AM maes...@openmailbox.org wrote:

 he didn't! he said that someone else did



Re: [Trisquel-users] occupygpl.org wants to make copyleft licenses go away

2015-02-11 Thread mail
Um, you're talking about permissive licensing. Copyleft would require Apple  
to release the useful bits, permissive would not require Apple to.


Re: [Trisquel-users] question about tables in html

2015-02-11 Thread adel . afzal

thanks guys

div is next on my list of things to learn, and I will read the zengarden  
page too


Re: [Trisquel-users] occupygpl.org wants to make copyleft licenses go away

2015-02-11 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp
Permissive licenses are closer to open source thinking, neither cares too  
much about freedom.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Update Manager Not Working

2015-02-11 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp

I don't think it's related to unity.

You can use the command by Magic Banana or edit manually the sources file.  
/etc/apt/sources.list


Re: [Trisquel-users] Eric S. Raymond Calls LLVM The Superior Compiler To GCC and defending GCC is futile

2015-02-11 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp
Why start another thread on the same issue?  
https://trisquel.info/en/forum/rmstheres-systematic-effort-attack-gnu-packages


Of course esr will say that, he doesn't care about freedom. I think this just  
validates rms' point.


Re: [Trisquel-users] using fluxbox does not read proper keymap

2015-02-11 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp

Does this help?

https://trisquel.info/en/forum/hungarian-keyboard


[Trisquel-users] Antwort: Update Manager Not Working

2015-02-11 Thread amilopowers

Is it possible that the PPA came with unuty have installed just recently?

Can I just use the main server and it should be fixed?


Re: [Trisquel-users] question about tables in html

2015-02-11 Thread rakyi
As t3g said, tables should be used for tables not general layout. The CSS  
sheet is indeed overriding your HTML, look at the line 46. For most cases its  
also better to use CSS in separate file(s) for all styling.


Re: [Trisquel-users] very good documentary

2015-02-11 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp
Don't click that google link (=youtube) there are torrents available, it's  
the first film in this series http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/


google already knows all too much about you...


Re: [Trisquel-users] Question about thinkpenguin:

2015-02-11 Thread tomlukeywood

I booted into Linux from grub within 5 seconds

the linux kernel was loaded but most of the system you loaded was gnu
thats why its best to call it gnu/linux


Re: [Trisquel-users] very good documentary

2015-02-11 Thread tomlukeywood
on future reflection this should be in the troll hole as its not too do with  
trisquel please someone down-vote this post


Re: [Trisquel-users] very good documentary

2015-02-11 Thread tomlukeywood

if you use torrents i am fairly sure your ip address is still reviled

but if you want to stay anonymous while getting this film use a live cd on a  
laptop with no permanent storage at all

outside your house using tor


Re: [Trisquel-users] Question about thinkpenguin:

2015-02-11 Thread maestro
http://shop.gluglug.org.uk/ 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Question about thinkpenguin:

2015-02-11 Thread mail

Glad you liked it! :)
Wlecome to freedom, klepto!


Re: [Trisquel-users] My family has smart TVs and I am scared.

2015-02-11 Thread maestro

http://www.cnet.com/news/samsung-changes-smarttv-privacy-policy-in-wake-of-spying-fears/

Don't worry we are not spying on you - we are just selling your data to  
Nuance Communication! Nuance Communication almost certainly sells it to the  
government and everybody interested enough to pay for it

Disgusting and pathetic


Re: [Trisquel-users] very good documentary

2015-02-11 Thread maestro
Saw this years ago - twice. I would be happy if those criticizing it would  
elaborate and prove the points that they reckon to be exaggerated or  
historically or conceptually incorrect.  


Re: [Trisquel-users] I am looking to build my first computer.

2015-02-11 Thread Michał Masłowski
It's listed at https://www.gnu.org/links/companies.html next to a seller
of laptops with Intel wifi requiring blobs.  I already reported these
bugs to GNU Webmasters several months ago.


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Re: [Trisquel-users] occupygpl.org wants to make copyleft licenses go away

2015-02-11 Thread tegskywalker
I have a feeling Microsoft is going to do the same thing with the .NET  
Foundation where they release some of the source code in the spirit of loving  
open source, but their important code to make it all work as a complete  
package is hidden. That way, a community can improve their code for them  
and in return, they take that code and make their non-free software better.


At the same time, Microsoft is praised for being open and progressive for  
embracing open source and loving Linux but their ulterior motives are to lock  
developers into the C# ecosystem on Linux like they do with Windows and be  
reliant on their non-free tools.


I have no need to use C# as I find Python a gorgeous language that is stable  
and has the backing of a non-profit.


Re: [Trisquel-users] occupygpl.org wants to make copyleft licenses go away

2015-02-11 Thread shiretoko

I agree with everything except python being a stable language.
No matter which python program i ever used on no matter what system, it was  
always slow, buggy and crashed in the end.
Maybe it's because there are more hobby-python programs out there? I don't  
know.


As a programming language, i don't like how it's so distant to the actual  
things going on, like memory management and stuff.
I like C++ a lot more, even if it's more difficult to learn. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] occupygpl.org wants to make copyleft licenses go away

2015-02-11 Thread mail
The .net Microsoft recently released isn't even open-source by the OSI's  
standards. It's not permissive, it's not copyleft, it's bs.


Re: [Trisquel-users] very good documentary

2015-02-11 Thread shiretoko

I'm Clicking back to my shot of tequila and my Shakespeare.

Can it be that you are deliberatly creating those latino-clichees??


Re: [Trisquel-users] occupygpl.org wants to make copyleft licenses go away

2015-02-11 Thread onpon4
If a Python program suddenly ends, that's because an exception was raised.  
It's not a problem with the Python interpreter, just a bug in the program  
(and a lot easier to solve than a segfault, since you have a proper error  
message).


You're wrong to generalize that all Python programs are excessively buggy;  
take a closer look at your system, there are probably more Python programs  
you use every day than you realize. Just try aptitude -s remove python2.7,  
for example. All of those programs that would be removed along with Python  
2.7 are at least partially written in Python (and probably some of them are  
entirely written in Python).