Re: [Trisquel-users] Why are we based on Ubuntu and not Debian?

2020-05-18 Thread mason
> Additionally, if Trisquel still wants to support i686 architecture, then it  
must make some change starting version 10, since Ubuntu dropped i686 support.


There has been some discussion of this in recent meetings.  Ubuntu still  
provides some 32-bit binary packages in order to support Wine and Steam, but  
not for the entire repository.  Trisquel is soon to upgrade to a new  
development server, after which it may be feasible to compile all of the  
missing binaries ourselves, allowing Trisquel to continue to support i386.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Why are we based on Ubuntu and not Debian?

2020-05-18 Thread xliang9550
Additionally, if Trisquel still wants to support i686 architecture, then it  
must make some change starting version 10, since Ubuntu dropped i686 support.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Why are we based on Ubuntu and not Debian?

2020-05-18 Thread andyprough
> Debian's lightdm package works fine with or without systemd. Devuan's  
changes just remove systemd support. This has no benefit for non-systemd  
users, which presumably includes all Devuan users.


That's a fair point. Devuan's devs appear to have a specific philosophy of  
not supporting systemd as a counterpoint to Debian. Antix's top dev is  
anticaptilalista, who has made public statements saying that Antix will never  
include systemd, but he seems more than happy to work hand-in-hand to help  
the MX devs develop their distro. MX offers both sysvinit and systemd, with  
the default being sysvinit, and the user getting the choice at boot time. So  
Antix would be harming MX which is downstream if it got rid of systemd  
support. (or maybe "downstream" is not the correct term, but Antix is the  
distro that gets released earlier, and MX uses Antix's code and releases a  
few months later).


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Mini (my install and some doubt ...)

2020-05-18 Thread equimanthorn
Today I need to connect my android phone to my netbook and pcmanfm cannot see  
my phone.

in synaptic all the gvfs packages are installed :/
help please...


Re: [Trisquel-users] Why are we based on Ubuntu and not Debian?

2020-05-18 Thread mason
> I'm so happy to see you continue to dig into antiX's plumbing. Isn't it an  
absolutely wonderful conceptual approach?


I was initially thrown off by the [1][nosystemd repository], which currently  
contains a single package, but used to contain a large number of packages  
that were no longer actually needed or used in antiX.  The key is that  
starting with version 241 elogind is ABI compatible with libsystemd0, meaning  
that it works as a drop-in replacement with no need to recompile packages  
that have been compiled against libsystemd0.  Unfortunately elogind 241  
missed the window to make it into Debian buster, which has elogind 239, but  
antiX backports [a newer version][2].  Basically, these packages


* eudev
* elogind >=241
* [libpam-elogind-compat][3]
* sysv-rc

can replace systemd and leave Debian otherwise functional, barring the  
occasional missing init script, which [sysd2sysv][4] makes relatively easy to  
create from a systemd unit file.


> I did not know that Devuan was wasting time removing those references.  
That's an interesting point, I'm going to need to explore further.


Maybe my "wasting time" comment was unfair.  I don't know how much time they  
actually spent on it or whether or not it's a bottleneck in development.   
[Here's a pretty typical example][5] though.  Debian's lightdm package works  
fine with or without systemd.  Devuan's changes just remove systemd support.   
This has no benefit for non-systemd users, which presumably includes all  
Devuan users.


[1] http://repo.antixlinux.com/buster/pool/nosystemd/

[2]: http://repo.antixlinux.com/buster/pool/main/e/elogind/

[3]: https://packages.debian.org/experimental/libpam-elogind-compat

[4]: http://www.trek.eu.org/devel/sysd2v/

[5]:  
https://git.devuan.org/devuan-packages/lightdm/commit/f57ed155705a5b41a1879057e2a8b50ae1d6394f


Re: [Trisquel-users] youtube download difference

2020-05-18 Thread tr33hugger
I watched the same youtube video using windows then my Linux machine, the  
video was 52 mins;


Win 7  =  709.4 MB
Linux Trisquel =  417.17 MB

The Windows machine has a faster processor and more RAM, the Linux machine  
has Trisquel and a small SSD.


Trisquel wins.


[Trisquel-users] Re : mind map software absent from the repo

2020-05-18 Thread lcerf
Isn't there in Trisquel Mini a utility analog to "Main Menu" (aka "Alacarte")  
in Trisquel?  If not, assuming LXDE complies with the "Desktop Entry  
Specification standard", you can install that utility (the package in  
Trisquel's repository is named "alacarte") or another one.  Or you can  
manually create, with a text editor, a .desktop file in  
~/.local/share/applications.  You can read  
https://specifications.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/ or,  
simpler, just modify an existing .desktop file.  You only need to specify the  
keys "Type", "Name" and "Exec".





Re: [Trisquel-users] 2530p laptop question

2020-05-18 Thread xliang9550
If you just want a 12-inch notebook, there are so many options. ThinkPad  
X200/s/t, X201/s/t, X220/t and X230/s/t all meet your requirements. Simply  
flash coreboot on it and all anti-features are gone.


It is true that, starting Nehalem, ME cannot be totally wiped out, but  
coreboot has done its best to both neutralize the anti-features of ME and  
defuse the 30-minute time bomb. There is a minimized ME remnant, but it's  
totally non-functional and therefore can be treated as "circuit" (i.e. dead).  
So coreboot is far superior to libreboot, due to latter's total refusal to do  
anything for newer platform users' freedom.


[Trisquel-users] Re : fstab problem

2020-05-18 Thread lcerf
It's a quite big SSD card (around 450 Go) if we consider 32 GB is enough for  
most system. It increase the speed of the system.


Being SSD, rather than HDD, increases the speed of the system.  Keeping  
unpartitioned space does not, as far as I know.  If the SSD hosts shrinkable  
filesystems, space is easy to make.  For instance, using GParted.  That said,  
if you test other distributions more often than you fill the disk, not having  
to shrink any filesystem (because you have unpartitioned space) saves you  
time and decreases risks of damaging the systems you actually use (imagine a  
power cut while a root partition is shrunk).


I did prefer a big home with a 2Go HD

I guess you mean a 2 TB HD.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Why are we based on Ubuntu and not Debian?

2020-05-18 Thread pandya
Yes, actually due to suffering from this issue  
https://trisquel.info/en/issues/23853 for long time, I've switched to PureOS  
just 2 days ago.