Re: [Trisquel-users] xfce problems

2017-06-25 Thread jbahn

I also don't have that option! What is wrong?




Re: [Trisquel-users] xfce problems

2017-06-25 Thread enduzzer

Right click Whisker icon --> about


Re: [Trisquel-users] xfce problems

2017-06-25 Thread jbahn
And that is not even the latest version! I can't find an option to reveal the  
version. Can you guide me?


Re: [Trisquel-users] xfce problems

2017-06-25 Thread enduzzer

...


Re: [Trisquel-users] xfce problems

2017-06-25 Thread jbahn

I suppose that means Devuan repo has a newer version of whisker menu?


Re: [Trisquel-users] xfce problems

2017-06-25 Thread enduzzer

I'm on Devuan live USB now. It's got Xfce4 4.10. I installed whisker menu

sudo apt-get install xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin

The 'categories next to panel buttons' is behind the first appearance tab.


Re: [Trisquel-users] xfce problems

2017-06-24 Thread jbahn
Thanks a lot. Now I just need to find instructions of how to understand the  
instructions :-)


Example of my uncertainty:

The instruction says:
 2. `mkdir build && cd build' to create a location for building.

Don't I have to give it a name? What would be a suitable name in order to not  
make confusions for my self or the compiler later?


I.e.: Can I follow the instructions as they are, or do I need to have further  
knowledge that allows me to understand underlying interpretations and  
perceptivenesses?




Re: [Trisquel-users] xfce problems

2017-06-24 Thread greatgnu

>instructions


Here da source

Here da instructions








Re: [Trisquel-users] xfce problems

2017-06-24 Thread jbahn

One guy at the ask-ubuntu site advocates for

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xubuntu-dev/xfce-4.12
sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
sudo apt-get install xfce4

and then

sudo apt-get install ppa-purge
sudo ppa-purge ppa:xubuntu-dev/xfce-4.12

Would I afterwards have to update xfce manually then?


Re: [Trisquel-users] xfce problems

2017-06-24 Thread jbahn
The 'xfce4-goodies' package is installed. I might give it a go with the gcppa  
if compiling is out of reach (for the moment).


Re: [Trisquel-users] xfce problems

2017-06-24 Thread jbahn
I still haven't tried compiling myself. Could this be a nice littel first  
project, and can you guide me with/to instructions?h


Re: [Trisquel-users] xfce problems

2017-06-24 Thread enduzzer

I think it can be updated by adding a new repo.

https://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/1721

https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=9559


Re: [Trisquel-users] xfce problems

2017-06-24 Thread greatgnu
>I see. It must be something that was introduced in a later version of Xfce.  
Debian 9 has Xfce 4.12


I had this option on Debian 8 too, and that one had xfce 4.10. My bet is your  
whiskermenu plugin is of an ancient version too muchy much, mateson. Compile  
only that one, no need to compile xfce only for whisker x_X


Re: [Trisquel-users] xfce problems

2017-06-24 Thread jbahn

Thanks. It leave that idea and perhaps add a PPA for xfce


Re: [Trisquel-users] xfce problems

2017-06-24 Thread enduzzer

I doubt it  will install. Unmet dependencies.


Re: [Trisquel-users] xfce problems

2017-06-24 Thread jbahn
Would it work to add the Debian repo and install from there? and would that  
cause problems in other respects?


Re: [Trisquel-users] xfce problems

2017-06-23 Thread enduzzer
The packaged version in Belenos is Xfce4 4.10 only. To upgrade, you have a  
few choices: go with Flidas Alpha (don't know if it's packaged yet) or use a  
PPA, use Debian 9 Xfce or.. something else like wait until it's there.


http://packages.trisquel.info/belenos/xfce4

https://trisquel.info/en/forum/xfce


Re: [Trisquel-users] xfce problems

2017-06-23 Thread jbahn

I am running version 4.10. I'll try to upgrade.

Thanks


Re: [Trisquel-users] xfce problems

2017-06-23 Thread jbahn
Would I have to download it from e.g. xfce.org in order to get a newer  
version?


Re: [Trisquel-users] xfce problems

2017-06-23 Thread enduzzer
I see. It must be something that was introduced in a later version of Xfce.  
Debian 9 has Xfce 4.12.


Re: [Trisquel-users] xfce problems

2017-06-23 Thread jbahn

I don't have it. And I've only got three tabs there...


Re: [Trisquel-users] xfce problems

2017-06-23 Thread enduzzer

...


Re: [Trisquel-users] xfce problems

2017-06-23 Thread jbahn
Hmm, I don't have hat option! 


Re: [Trisquel-users] xfce problems

2017-06-22 Thread greatgnu
>In your menu you've got the categories to the left. How did you get them  
there?


Oh, it's very easy mate, do this: right click on the whiskermenu icon,  
properties, tab 'behavior' -> mark 'position categories next to panel  
buttons'.





Re: [Trisquel-users] xfce problems

2017-06-22 Thread jbahn
In your menu you've got the categories to the left. How did you get them  
there?


Re: [Trisquel-users] XFCE problems anew (anold!)

2017-02-07 Thread jbahn

Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Correcting dependencies... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
  xfce4-session
Suggested packages:
  fortunes-mod
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  xfce4-session
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 491 not upgraded.
2 not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0 B/610 kB of archives.
After this operation, 2.694 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
Setting up e2fsprogs (1.42.9-3ubuntu1.3) ...
(Reading database ... 183565 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack .../xfce4-session_4.10.1-3ubuntu5_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking xfce4-session (4.10.1-3ubuntu5) ...
dpkg: error processing archive  
/var/cache/apt/archives/xfce4-session_4.10.1-3ubuntu5_amd64.deb (--unpack):
 trying to overwrite '/etc/xdg/autostart/xscreensaver.desktop', which is also  
in package trisquel-desktop-common-data 7.0-15

Processing triggers for man-db (2.6.7.1-1ubuntu1) ...
Processing triggers for hicolor-icon-theme (0.13-1) ...
Processing triggers for mime-support (3.54ubuntu1.1) ...
Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils (0.22-1ubuntu1+7.0trisquel1) ...
Processing triggers for gnome-menus (3.10.1-0ubuntu2+7.0trisquel8) ...
Errors were encountered while processing:
 /var/cache/apt/archives/xfce4-session_4.10.1-3ubuntu5_amd64.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
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Re: [Trisquel-users] XFCE problems anew (anold!)

2017-02-07 Thread jbahn

Thanks.

Un-installing xfce4 and running sudo update, sudo upgrade and re-installing  
xfce4 did it.


(I am not sure it sudo opgrade is really necessary)


Re: [Trisquel-users] XFCE problems anew (anold!)

2017-02-07 Thread greatgnu
Well, it is just a metapackage so accepting and uninstalling it should not  
remove any other relevant (to the proper functionality of the OS) dependency,  
if none at all.


Re: [Trisquel-users] XFCE problems anew (anold!)

2017-02-07 Thread jbahn
In order to paste the output of  I installed Icecat and was asked to accept  
to uninstall xfce4. I wonder why?


[Trisquel-users] XFCE problems anew (anold!)

2017-02-07 Thread jbahn
I have successfully installed xfce on Trisquel on a number of devices now.  
Now I'm trying to get it to work on my 'new' T500 (not librebooted yet) and I  
encounter a problem, that I met the other times as well. I am not sure how I  
solved it the other times and I have no idea of why it emerges.


I install xfce through Synaptic, choosing packages xfce4 and xfce4-goodies.  
After installation I'm told that there are some issues with some  
packages/dependencies (sorry for lack of clarity/memory). I am asked to  
filter by 'Defect' (broken? - sorry, it's translated from Danish), since I  
have two defect/broken packages on my system.


It turns out to be 'e2fsprogs' and 'xfce4'.

I have tried to reinstall and I have updated and upgraded with no  
impprovement.


Does anyone know how to solve this?


Re: [Trisquel-users] xfce problems

2016-12-30 Thread jbahn
Worried about "think" means "not sure" which to a security/privacy seeking  
itiot like me means: Could be a risk to privacy/security.


Re: [Trisquel-users] xfce problems

2016-12-30 Thread greatgnu

Worried about what? The license of the theme is GPLv3.


Re: [Trisquel-users] xfce problems

2016-12-30 Thread jbahn

https://libreboot.org/docs/hcl/imac52.html

It seems they know but haven't had the time yet, so I guess you are right,  
CalmStorm, they would probably appreciate that


Re: [Trisquel-users] xfce problems

2016-12-30 Thread jbahn

I also would like to flash Libreboot myself

I know what you mean. That one reason why I supplemented my x200 with a  
MacBook2,1 :-)


Re: [Trisquel-users] xfce problems

2016-12-29 Thread calmstorm

If imac 5,2 works for libreboot, tell the libreboot devs how you did it.


Re: [Trisquel-users] xfce problems

2016-12-29 Thread mappack
I could do that, but here are a few other advantages (for me at least) to  
having a separate desktop like having your documents and pictures on two  
computers in case a hard drive fails, better sound (this could be solved by  
external speakers for the laptop, too). I also would like to flash Libreboot  
myself, when I bought my thinkpad it was already flashed with Libreboot.


Anyway, I'll keep your suggestion in mind. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] xfce problems

2016-12-29 Thread jbahn
Yeah, I reckon. How about a dock with attached larger display and keyboard?  
Two displays can be convenient.


Re: [Trisquel-users] xfce problems

2016-12-29 Thread mappack
I am planning to buy an imac 5,2 and flash Libreboot on it. It uses the same  
ROM as the macbook 2,1. If the macbook has some weird problems, the imac  
might also have them. But if you say the macbook works, I will just try and  
see how it goes. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] xfce problems

2016-12-29 Thread jbahn
Generally I'ld say it works fine. I still haven't had the time to work a lot  
with it so I have almost only done some email (Icedove) and web (Abrowser).  
So far I'm happy. This is more or less the first time I work on an Apple  
computer and I still need to get used to some keys different position. At  
this moment I don't know where the at-mark key is!


When installing there are some quirks. I am working on a more detailed guide,  
but I need some time. So far it's:  
https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/liberating-macbook-21-flashing-libreboot-and-installing-trisquel


Feel free to ask again...


Re: [Trisquel-users] xfce problems

2016-12-29 Thread jbahn
This is good and enlightening information. But I am a little worried about  
the use of "think". Do you have the knowledge and insight to seek (and  
understand) verification on this issue?


Re: [Trisquel-users] xfce problems

2016-12-28 Thread greatgnu
Arc just happens to be a very complex one. I see no difference in terms of  
performance, and I have a very old laptop. :) 


Re: [Trisquel-users] xfce problems

2016-12-28 Thread mappack
This doesn't answer any of your questions, but I wanted to ask if there are  
any quirks with the macbook not mentioned on the Libreboot website. So are  
there any?


Thanks


Re: [Trisquel-users] xfce problems

2016-12-28 Thread jbahn

Thanks. That looks good.

Is there any performance issues with themes? That is, will complex themes eat  
the machines memory?


Re: [Trisquel-users] xfce problems

2016-12-28 Thread greatgnu

>...it looks like it's running on some old MS machine in safe mode.

:D

True, by default Xfce is not very sexy. But you can make it look very nice  
very easily.


I am currently using the Arc gtk theme, with the Arc icon theme (inheriting  
moka icons).


This is how it looks (I just set the panel transparent)  ->
https://framapic.org/JMFTHyGeSHAY/IMCnkSwwh8yw.png

Here, dem links ->
https://github.com/horst3180/arc-theme
https://github.com/horst3180/arc-icon-theme
https://github.com/snwh/moka-icon-theme



Re: [Trisquel-users] xfce problems

2016-12-28 Thread jbahn
Thanks for pointing me to consider that as well. I was actually only  
concerned about security. Can't themes contain malicious software?


Re: [Trisquel-users] xfce problems

2016-12-28 Thread jbahn

Thanks. Now I got Whisker running and I'm a happy man.

About downloading themes via xfce-look.org, do you automatically trust that  
software?


Re: [Trisquel-users] xfce problems

2016-12-27 Thread superbyelich
1.  You can make XFCE look like anything you want if you look for more  
themes.  A good place is here:  http://www.xfce-look.org/


2.  If you right click on the panel and then select Panel, and then Panel  
Preferences you will get a window like what you see in the attached image so  
that you can set your panel up the way you like.


I hope this helps!